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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIoxG4MF3y4

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On Friday, March 4, 2022 at 10:02:10 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIoxG4MF3y4

She's weak on the details in this commentary, IMO. She makes no note of George's great use of the Moog synthesizer, or of George's peaking as a songwriter and musician on this album. She doesn't remark on the guitar "battle" or Ringo's solo. The album oozes with great bass work from Paul, but she doesn't seem to take notice.

I enjoyed Caroline's Beatles reviews in general, but I wish she had been more critical. In this case, she talks as if the whole album is wonderful. Does anyone really believe that "Maxwell's Silver Hammer" holds its own with "Come Together" and "Something"?

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I case you missed the encore you gave a link to.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tkx9lwOLBOU

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On Friday, March 4, 2022 at 10:45:33 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> I case you missed the encore you gave a link to.
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> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tkx9lwOLBOU

She's a good singer. I'd have expected her to alter the gender references in the lyrics; maybe she declines to do so out of deference to the original.

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On Friday, March 4, 2022 at 11:30:43 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
> On Friday, March 4, 2022 at 10:45:33 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
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> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tkx9lwOLBOU

> She's a good singer. I'd have expected her to alter the gender references in the lyrics; maybe she declines to do so out of deference to the original.

That's what I thought.

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 by: geoff - Sat, 5 Mar 2022 02:53 UTC

On 5/03/2022 4:23 am, Norbert K wrote:
> On Friday, March 4, 2022 at 10:02:10 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIoxG4MF3y4
>
> She's weak on the details in this commentary, IMO. She makes no note of George's great use of the Moog synthesizer, or of George's peaking as a songwriter and musician on this album. She doesn't remark on the guitar "battle" or Ringo's solo. The album oozes with great bass work from Paul, but she doesn't seem to take notice.
>
> I enjoyed Caroline's Beatles reviews in general, but I wish she had been more critical. In this case, she talks as if the whole album is wonderful. Does anyone really believe that "Maxwell's Silver Hammer" holds its own with "Come Together" and "Something"?

Does specifically mention pretty much any of the points that make yhis
one of the greatest albums ever.

Nearly slides off her chair during Something, but doesn't particularly
mention the acme of George's song-writing and guitar parts, or one of
the most fantastic bass lines ever ( despite George initially
considering "too many notes").

Then she obsesses over relatively insignificant technical musical details.

And no mention of the pioneering and subtle synth parts that a a
significant aspect of Here Comes ....

In Because can't tell the difference between a brassy synth part and
actual 'brass'.

And no mention of the only real Beatles drum solo, or comment on the
epic 3-way guitar 'dual'.

And why she chopped the last abruptly-ending note off Her Majesty ?!!
That part of the fun.

She got the status of the album right in the general scheme of things
IMO, but seemed to totally miss much of the point, and details that were
well worthy of comment.

If people want more detail, this website worth checking out, details of
each song in the 'Songs' tab:
https://www.beatlesbible.com/

geoff

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 by: geoff - Sat, 5 Mar 2022 06:49 UTC

On 5/03/2022 3:53 pm, geoff wrote:
> On 5/03/2022 4:23 am, Norbert K wrote:
>> On Friday, March 4, 2022 at 10:02:10 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIoxG4MF3y4
>>
>> She's weak on the details in this commentary, IMO.  She makes no note
>> of George's great use of the Moog synthesizer, or of George's peaking
>> as a songwriter and musician on this album.  She doesn't remark on the
>> guitar "battle" or Ringo's solo.   The album oozes with great bass
>> work from Paul, but she doesn't seem to take notice.
>>
>> I enjoyed Caroline's Beatles reviews in general, but I wish she had
>> been more critical.  In this case, she talks as if the whole album is
>> wonderful.  Does anyone really believe that "Maxwell's Silver Hammer"
>> holds its own with "Come Together" and "Something"?
>
>
> Does specifically mention pretty much any of the points that make yhis
> one of the greatest albums ever.
>
> Nearly slides off her chair during Something, but doesn't particularly
> mention the acme of George's song-writing and guitar parts, or one of
> the most fantastic bass lines ever ( despite George initially
> considering "too many notes").
>
> Then she obsesses over relatively insignificant technical musical details.
>
> And no mention of the pioneering and subtle synth parts that a a
> significant aspect of Here Comes ....
>
> In Because can't tell the difference between a brassy synth part and
> actual 'brass'.
>
> And no mention of the only real Beatles drum solo, or comment on the
> epic 3-way guitar 'dual'.
>
> And why she chopped the last abruptly-ending note off Her Majesty ?!!
> That part of the fun.
>
> She got the status of the album right in the general scheme of things
> IMO, but seemed to totally miss much of the point, and details that were
> well worthy of comment.
>
> If people want more detail, this website worth checking out, details of
> each song in the 'Songs' tab:
> https://www.beatlesbible.com/
>
>
> geoff
>
>
>
>

Sorry, meant "doesn't" ....

geoff

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On Friday, March 4, 2022 at 9:53:33 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
> On 5/03/2022 4:23 am, Norbert K wrote:
> > On Friday, March 4, 2022 at 10:02:10 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIoxG4MF3y4
> >
> > She's weak on the details in this commentary, IMO. She makes no note of George's great use of the Moog synthesizer, or of George's peaking as a songwriter and musician on this album. She doesn't remark on the guitar "battle" or Ringo's solo. The album oozes with great bass work from Paul, but she doesn't seem to take notice.
> >
> > I enjoyed Caroline's Beatles reviews in general, but I wish she had been more critical. In this case, she talks as if the whole album is wonderful.. Does anyone really believe that "Maxwell's Silver Hammer" holds its own with "Come Together" and "Something"?
> Does specifically mention pretty much any of the points that make yhis
> one of the greatest albums ever.
>
> Nearly slides off her chair during Something, but doesn't particularly
> mention the acme of George's song-writing and guitar parts, or one of
> the most fantastic bass lines ever ( despite George initially
> considering "too many notes").
>
> Then she obsesses over relatively insignificant technical musical details..
>
> And no mention of the pioneering and subtle synth parts that a a
> significant aspect of Here Comes ....
>
> In Because can't tell the difference between a brassy synth part and
> actual 'brass'.
>
> And no mention of the only real Beatles drum solo, or comment on the
> epic 3-way guitar 'dual'.
>
> And why she chopped the last abruptly-ending note off Her Majesty ?!!
> That part of the fun.
>
> She got the status of the album right in the general scheme of things
> IMO, but seemed to totally miss much of the point, and details that were
> well worthy of comment.
>
> If people want more detail, this website worth checking out, details of
> each song in the 'Songs' tab:
> https://www.beatlesbible.com/
>
>
> geoff

She's very generous with praise for the album, as is appropriate, but short on discernment. Maybe she was distracted by the popcorn.

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On Friday, March 4, 2022 at 10:02:10 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIoxG4MF3y4

She's Allright. She seems to love everything straight off the bat. I always needed time to get to know albums.

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On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 8:02:17 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:

> She's very generous with praise for the album, as is appropriate, but short on discernment. Maybe she was distracted by the popcorn.

She's a musician so she analyzes differently than a big Beatles fan. She likes to show the chords and notes and give us a sample of how they are flowing rather than do discuss the individual personalities in the group.

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On Friday, March 4, 2022 at 10:02:10 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIoxG4MF3y4

I'm kind of surprised that she apparently loved the Beatles so much but is content to end without exploring the guys' post Beatles work.

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On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 10:55:27 AM UTC-5, RJKe...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Friday, March 4, 2022 at 10:02:10 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIoxG4MF3y4
> I'm kind of surprised that she apparently loved the Beatles so much but is content to end without exploring the guys' post Beatles work.

That could happen next, although any way you slice it it's disappointing compared to their work together.

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On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 10:31:19 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 8:02:17 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
>
> > She's very generous with praise for the album, as is appropriate, but short on discernment. Maybe she was distracted by the popcorn.
> She's a musician so she analyzes differently than a big Beatles fan. She likes to show the chords and notes and give us a sample of how they are flowing rather than do discuss the individual personalities in the group.

She briefly analyzes some of the melodic and harmonic components to, I think, three of the songs. The bulk of her videos show her nodding, bobbing, and swaying to the music. I specified a number of the album's musical aspects that Caroline seemed oddly oblivious to in my first post in this thread. Geoff did this, too.

Most of her videos merely show her enjoying the music. There's nothing particularly wrong with that. It's good to see a person in her age group appreciating the Beatles.

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On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 1:48:02 PM UTC-8, Norbert K wrote:
> On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 10:31:19 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> > On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 8:02:17 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
> >
> > > She's very generous with praise for the album, as is appropriate, but short on discernment. Maybe she was distracted by the popcorn.
> > She's a musician so she analyzes differently than a big Beatles fan. She likes to show the chords and notes and give us a sample of how they are flowing rather than do discuss the individual personalities in the group.
> She briefly analyzes some of the melodic and harmonic components to, I think, three of the songs. The bulk of her videos show her nodding, bobbing, and swaying to the music. I specified a number of the album's musical aspects that Caroline seemed oddly oblivious to in my first post in this thread. Geoff did this, too.
>


> Most of her videos merely show her enjoying the music. There's nothing particularly wrong with that. It's good to see a person in her age group appreciating the Beatles.

Pretty much my take on her videos. It's interesting to see youngins discover and enjoy the magic.

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 by: geoff - Sun, 6 Mar 2022 01:57 UTC

On 6/03/2022 4:31 am, Bruce wrote:
> On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 8:02:17 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
>
>> She's very generous with praise for the album, as is appropriate, but short on discernment. Maybe she was distracted by the popcorn.
>
> She's a musician so she analyzes differently than a big Beatles fan. She likes to show the chords and notes and give us a sample of how they are flowing rather than do discuss the individual personalities in the group.

I'm a musician too.

She doesn't mention major significant musical aspects, and then throws
in some simplistic musical trivia to attempt to bolster her kudos.

geoff

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 by: geoff - Sun, 6 Mar 2022 01:59 UTC

On 6/03/2022 4:55 am, RJKe...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Friday, March 4, 2022 at 10:02:10 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIoxG4MF3y4
>
> I'm kind of surprised that she apparently loved the Beatles so much but is content to end without exploring the guys' post Beatles work.

Maybe she will ...

But it would likely remain with the same shallowness.

Better than nothing I guess, especially if it gets others of her
generation interested.

geoff

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 by: Norbert K - Sun, 6 Mar 2022 14:34 UTC

On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 8:57:26 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
> On 6/03/2022 4:31 am, Bruce wrote:
> > On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 8:02:17 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
> >
> >> She's very generous with praise for the album, as is appropriate, but short on discernment. Maybe she was distracted by the popcorn.
> >
> > She's a musician so she analyzes differently than a big Beatles fan. She likes to show the chords and notes and give us a sample of how they are flowing rather than do discuss the individual personalities in the group.
> I'm a musician too.
>
> She doesn't mention major significant musical aspects, and then throws
> in some simplistic musical trivia to attempt to bolster her kudos.
>
> geoff

I complained earlier about numerous features of Abbey Road that Caroline missed. However, her "big picture" sense isn't there, either. She doesn't get how different -- how much more polished, cohesive, and formal -- Abbey Road is from Let It Be. She seemed equally pleased with LiB.

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In article <7c49dd4f-bf8d-4a6e-92e6-35af75a66b7an@googlegroups.com>,
Norbert K <norbertkosky69@gmail.com> wrote:

> I enjoyed Caroline's Beatles reviews in general, but I wish she had been more
> critical. In this case, she talks as if the whole album is wonderful. Does
> anyone really believe that "Maxwell's Silver Hammer" holds its own with "Come
> Together" and "Something"?

I never thought "Come Together" was all that special and "Oh Darling!"
is one of the most annoying songs the Beatles ever recorded IMO, closely
followed by "Maxwell's Silver Hammer." The only thing that saves side
one from total mediocrity is "Something."

But Abbey Road is like Sgt. Pepper's at this point, the myth (in this
case, "let's get back together for one more final try") takes precedence
over any objectivity.

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 by: Bruce - Sun, 6 Mar 2022 19:58 UTC

On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 8:57:26 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
> On 6/03/2022 4:31 am, Bruce wrote:
> > On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 8:02:17 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
> >
> >> She's very generous with praise for the album, as is appropriate, but short on discernment. Maybe she was distracted by the popcorn.
> >
> > She's a musician so she analyzes differently than a big Beatles fan. She likes to show the chords and notes and give us a sample of how they are flowing rather than do discuss the individual personalities in the group.
> I'm a musician too.
>
> She doesn't mention major significant musical aspects, and then throws
> in some simplistic musical trivia to attempt to bolster her kudos.

She's a musician, but she's not making the video for other musicians.

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 by: geoff - Sun, 6 Mar 2022 20:43 UTC

On 7/03/2022 8:58 am, Bruce wrote:
> On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 8:57:26 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
>> On 6/03/2022 4:31 am, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 8:02:17 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
>>>
>>>> She's very generous with praise for the album, as is appropriate, but short on discernment. Maybe she was distracted by the popcorn.
>>>
>>> She's a musician so she analyzes differently than a big Beatles fan. She likes to show the chords and notes and give us a sample of how they are flowing rather than do discuss the individual personalities in the group.
>> I'm a musician too.
>>
>> She doesn't mention major significant musical aspects, and then throws
>> in some simplistic musical trivia to attempt to bolster her kudos.
>
> She's a musician, but she's not making the video for other musicians.

No, but she trying to make them believe that she is more of a musician
than she possibly is.

geoff

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 by: geoff - Sun, 6 Mar 2022 20:46 UTC

On 7/03/2022 3:45 am, super70s wrote:
> In article <7c49dd4f-bf8d-4a6e-92e6-35af75a66b7an@googlegroups.com>,
> Norbert K <norbertkosky69@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I enjoyed Caroline's Beatles reviews in general, but I wish she had been more
>> critical. In this case, she talks as if the whole album is wonderful. Does
>> anyone really believe that "Maxwell's Silver Hammer" holds its own with "Come
>> Together" and "Something"?
>
> I never thought "Come Together" was all that special and "Oh Darling!"
> is one of the most annoying songs the Beatles ever recorded IMO, closely
> followed by "Maxwell's Silver Hammer." The only thing that saves side
> one from total mediocrity is "Something."

No, no, no, and no. Truly bizarre to me, but your opinion none-the-less.

Apart from Something, is there anything else you consider above mediocre ?

geoff

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 by: geoff - Sun, 6 Mar 2022 20:48 UTC

On 7/03/2022 3:34 am, Norbert K wrote:
> On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 8:57:26 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
>> On 6/03/2022 4:31 am, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 8:02:17 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
>>>
>>>> She's very generous with praise for the album, as is appropriate, but short on discernment. Maybe she was distracted by the popcorn.
>>>
>>> She's a musician so she analyzes differently than a big Beatles fan. She likes to show the chords and notes and give us a sample of how they are flowing rather than do discuss the individual personalities in the group.
>> I'm a musician too.
>>
>> She doesn't mention major significant musical aspects, and then throws
>> in some simplistic musical trivia to attempt to bolster her kudos.
>>
>> geoff
>
> I complained earlier about numerous features of Abbey Road that Caroline missed. However, her "big picture" sense isn't there, either. She doesn't get how different -- how much more polished, cohesive, and formal -- Abbey Road is from Let It Be. She seemed equally pleased with LiB.
>
>
>

The Big Picture not there on any of the reviews. All seen very shallow,
even on the relatively trivial earlier commercial pop releases.

Little opinion on song-writing, lyrics, album construction, history,
musicianship, etc.

geoff

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On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 3:46:34 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
> On 7/03/2022 3:45 am, super70s wrote:
> > In article <7c49dd4f-bf8d-4a6e...@googlegroups.com>,
> > Norbert K <norbert...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I enjoyed Caroline's Beatles reviews in general, but I wish she had been more
> >> critical. In this case, she talks as if the whole album is wonderful. Does
> >> anyone really believe that "Maxwell's Silver Hammer" holds its own with "Come
> >> Together" and "Something"?
> >
> > I never thought "Come Together" was all that special and "Oh Darling!"
> > is one of the most annoying songs the Beatles ever recorded IMO, closely
> > followed by "Maxwell's Silver Hammer." The only thing that saves side
> > one from total mediocrity is "Something."
>
> No, no, no, and no. Truly bizarre to me, but your opinion none-the-less.
>
> Apart from Something, is there anything else you consider above mediocre ?
>
> geoff

I love Oh! Darling. A 50s rock pastiche with a more powerful delivery than anything from that era.

Was it written on guitar or piano? My guess is piano, in spite of how the guitar jumps out in the mix.

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On Friday, March 4, 2022 at 10:02:10 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIoxG4MF3y4

Thanks for posting all of these, Bruce. I was surprised to scroll endlessly through the comments and find not one negative one, pretty unusual for YouTube comments.

I was pretty impressed at the enalysis of passages via some program like Reason or Logic Pro, I assume. I didn't realize that you could load an MP3 (again, my technical-Luddite assumption) into it and that it would break down all the instruments like that. Or did she get access to some digital master version of the album? Anyway, at the 11:10 mark where she does this for a passage of "Octopus's Garden" I was surprised at what cool contra-voicing was going on there.

I never did get the explanation of how it is that she has never heard most of the songs before. She does say when she *has* heard a song before (like "Here Comes the Sun" from some movie). How old is she, anyway, and what desert island did she grow up on? Or did she have obsessively protective parents? Once, at work, on my birthday, a colleague named Vishal came to my cubicle and said, "Willie, I hear it's your birthday. Happy Birthday. How old are you?" I said, "Well, here's a hint," and started singing "When I'm Sixty-four" (so this was 12 years ago). Vishal said, "What is this song?" I said, "You know, the Beatles." He said, "What is this Beatles?" I said, "What? You know, John, Paul, Ringo, George." He said, "No, I don't know, but keep singing, I love it."

I thought, Hello, he's never heard of the Beatles? (He grew up near Delhi.) But then I thought, well, I couldn't name the great Indian musicians, beyond Ravi Shankar and a few others.

Also, Bruce, I've been reading a recent biography of B.B. King, and just got to a chapter that starts off like this:

"At soime imperceptible moment, around the start of the 1960's, the musical genre known as rhythm and blues split in two. R&B had itself been a catchall term for the segregated pop music of Black America, formerly known as 'race'music. Now a new species of rhythm and blues emerged under the proud heading of 'soul.' A succession of songs conspired to consolidate the soul movement: 'Shop Around,' in the autumn of 1960, the first number 1 hit from Smokey Robinson's Miracles; 'Stand By Me', in the spring of 1961 from Ben. E. King, and 'Hit the Road Jack,' in the summer of 1961 from Ray Charles. Then came the Marvelettes, Motown's first great girl group, with 'Please Mr. Postman.' Sam Cooke followed with 'Twistin' the Night Away' in early 1962."

The author (Danel de Visé) goes on for a couple of pages on this point, saying the 'soul' music, not conventional R&B is what got picked up by white audiences, because it "Blended compositional elements of Black blues and white pop with a rock 'n roll backbeat and swooping vocal flourishes of gospel. Soul music marked a distinctly African American response to rock 'n roll." Hello? I don't get his definition of soul music. For me, soul music is James Brown, Otis Redding, Stax; not Motown. Ray Charles, too, but certainly not "Twistin' the Night Away." I thought, as I read this passage, Bruce would be furious.

The book, however, is pretty darned good, though, including a startling account of the death of Johnny Ace. In 1954, B.B. was touring with Big Mama Thornton and Johnny Ace. Johnny Ace had several #1 hits on the R&B charts, and was a wild man, liking to drive at 90 MPH while shooting at the "O's" in roadside signs. On Christmas night, they were playing in Houston, and between sets, Johnny took out a pistol and pointed it at a couple in the room. Big Mama told him to cool it, and took the gun from him. She opened the chamber and a bullet fell out. Johnny told her to "put it back" (the book's words) and she did. (I assume this meant she put the bullet back in the chamber.) Johnny then took the gun, held it against his girlfriend's temple, and pulled the trigger. Nothing happened, but the girl, naturally enough, freaked out. Johnny then said, "Girl, stop worrying," then put the gun against his own temple and blew his brains out.

de Visé speculates that it's possible Ace's promoter put more bullets in the chambers, hoping Ace would do just what he did, and this would increase sales of his current hit, "Pledging My Love" (which it apparently did, as the song soared to #1).

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On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 3:25:17 PM UTC-5, Willie Williams wrote:
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> I never did get the explanation of how it is that she has never heard most of the songs before. How old is she, anyway, and what desert island did she grow up on?

I would guess she's in her mid-20s. She's from Australia.

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