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* Obscure 1950s Era Recordings - September 2022 - Preliminary Round -Bruce
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Subject: Obscure 1950s Era Recordings - September 2022 - Preliminary Round -
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 by: Bruce - Mon, 5 Sep 2022 04:08 UTC

Group 4 is now open.

Dancin' Holiday- Olympics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OQ-bnnn5rM

Second Line - Huey & Curley
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0n0W5nxlPGM

About To Lose My Mind - Arthur 'Big Boy' Spires
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pI4mpGn_erM

If You Need Some Lovin' - Nappy Brown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQTGIiaKpgA

Where the Rio De Rosa Flows- Jimmy Lloyd
https://www.youtube.com/watch/OzqDIoGtX4s

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 by: Bruce - Mon, 5 Sep 2022 04:08 UTC

MY RANKINGS

1. Second Line - Huey & Curley
2. If You Need Some Lovin' - Nappy Brown
3. About To Lose My Mind - Arthur 'Big Boy' Spires
4. Where the Rio De Rosa Flows- Jimmy Lloyd
5. Dancin' Holiday- Olympics

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 by: Roger Ford - Mon, 5 Sep 2022 04:17 UTC

On Sun, 4 Sep 2022 21:08:20 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <SavoyBG@aol.com>
wrote:

>Group 4 is now open.
>
>
Second Line - Huey & Curley>Dancin' Holiday- Olympics
If You Need Some Lovin' - Nappy Brown
About To Lose My Mind - Arthur 'Big Boy' Spires
Where the Rio De Rosa Flows- Jimmy Lloyd
Dancin' Holiday- Olympics

ROGER FORD
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1. Where the Rio De Rosa Flows- Jimmy Lloyd

2. Second Line - Huey & Curley

3. About To Lose My Mind - Arthur 'Big Boy' Spires

4. If You Need Some Lovin' - Nappy Brown

5. Dancin' Holiday- Olympics

--
Steve Mc

DNA to SBC to respond

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 by: Roger Ford - Mon, 5 Sep 2022 04:21 UTC

On Mon, 05 Sep 2022 04:17:57 GMT, mariabus@bblueyonder.co.uk (Roger
Ford) wrote:

>On Sun, 4 Sep 2022 21:08:20 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <SavoyBG@aol.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Group 4 is now open.
>>
>>
>Second Line - Huey & Curley
>If You Need Some Lovin' - Nappy Brown
>About To Lose My Mind - Arthur 'Big Boy' Spires
>Where the Rio De Rosa Flows- Jimmy Lloyd
>Dancin' Holiday- Olympics
>

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 by: Bruce - Mon, 5 Sep 2022 04:27 UTC

On Monday, September 5, 2022 at 12:21:46 AM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
> On Mon, 05 Sep 2022 04:17:57 GMT, mari...@bblueyonder.co.uk (Roger
> Ford) wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 4 Sep 2022 21:08:20 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <Sav...@aol.com>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>Group 4 is now open.
> >>
> >>
> >Second Line - Huey & Curley
> >If You Need Some Lovin' - Nappy Brown
> >About To Lose My Mind - Arthur 'Big Boy' Spires
> >Where the Rio De Rosa Flows- Jimmy Lloyd
> >Dancin' Holiday- Olympics

An exceptionally well ordered ballot!

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On Sunday, September 4, 2022 at 9:08:21 PM UTC-7, Bruce wrote:
> Group 4 is now open.
>
1. Second Line - Huey & Curley
2. About To Lose My Mind - Arthur 'Big Boy' Spires
3. Where the Rio De Rosa Flows- Jimmy Lloyd
4. Dancin' Holiday- Olympics
5. If You Need Some Lovin' - Nappy Brown

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 by: Rick Schubert - Mon, 5 Sep 2022 05:25 UTC

On Sun, 4 Sep 2022 21:08:20 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <SavoyBG@aol.com> wrote:

>Group 4 is now open.

1. If You Need Some Lovin' - Nappy Brown
2. Dancin' Holiday - Olympics
3. Second Line - Huey & Curley
4. Where the Rio De Rosa Flows - Jimmy Lloyd
5. About To Lose My Mind - Arthur 'Big Boy' Spires

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 by: DianeE - Mon, 5 Sep 2022 07:28 UTC

1-About To Lose My Mind - Arthur 'Big Boy' Spires
2-Where the Rio De Rosa Flows- Jimmy Lloyd
3-If You Need Some Lovin' - Nappy Brown
4-Second Line - Huey & Curley
5-Dancin' Holiday- Olympics

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> 1. Dancin' Holiday- Olympics
> 2. If You Need Some Lovin' - Nappy Brown
> 3. Second Line - Huey & Curley
> 4. Where the Rio De Rosa Flows- Jimmy Lloyd
> 5. About To Lose My Mind - Arthur 'Big Boy' Spires

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1. Where the Rio De Rosa Flows- Jimmy Lloyd

2. Second Line - Huey & Curley

3. About To Lose My Mind - Arthur 'Big Boy' Spires

4. If You Need Some Lovin' - Nappy Brown

5. Dancin' Holiday- Olympics

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1- Nappy Brown

2- Jimmy Lloyd

3- Huey & Curley

4- The Olympics

5- Arthur "Big Boy" Spires

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On Sep 4, 2022 at 11:08:20 PM CDT, "Bruce" <SavoyBG@aol.com> wrote:

> Group 4 is now open.
>

Second Line - Huey & Curley
Dancin' Holiday- Olympics
About To Lose My Mind - Arthur 'Big Boy' Spires
Where the Rio De Rosa Flows- Jimmy Lloyd
If You Need Some Lovin' - Nappy Brown

Another strong group.

--md

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FINAL RANKINGS

1. Second Line - Huey & Curley - 39
2. If You Need Some Lovin' - Nappy Brown - 31 (three 2nd place)
3. Where the Rio De Rosa Flows- Jimmy Lloyd - 31 (two 2nd place_
4. About To Lose My Mind - Arthur 'Big Boy' Spires - 27
5. Dancin' Holiday- Olympics - 22

Roger's "Rockin' Pneumonia part 6" wins the group. My Nappy wins the tie breaker for second over Steve's Lloyd, but both are through safely to round 1.. Carl's Spires aspires to get to round 1, but it has to go through the 4th place pool with 27 points. And on this holiday Bill's Holiday dances off into the sunset.

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Great group for me tomorrow, an 8 and 4 sevens.

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Roger's "Rockin' Pneumonia part 6" wins

And that's why line judge Rowan tossed that flag!!

15 yds for flagrant reiteration, baby!!!

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On Monday, September 5, 2022 at 11:57:39 AM UTC-4, Dennis C from Tennessee wrote:
> Roger's "Rockin' Pneumonia part 6" wins
> And that's why line judge Rowan tossed that flag!!
>
> 15 yds for flagrant reiteration, baby!!!

My flag fluttered right beside yours. It's good to see somebody besides me who values originality and penalizes regurgitated puke.

On the other hand, I thought my "Dancin' Holiday" had an original, creative sound.

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On 9/5/2022 2:07 PM, Bill B wrote:
> On Monday, September 5, 2022 at 11:57:39 AM UTC-4, Dennis C from Tennessee wrote:
>> Roger's "Rockin' Pneumonia part 6" wins
>> And that's why line judge Rowan tossed that flag!!
>>
>> 15 yds for flagrant reiteration, baby!!!
>
> My flag fluttered right beside yours. It's good to see somebody besides me who values originality and penalizes regurgitated puke.
>
> On the other hand, I thought my "Dancin' Holiday" had an original, creative sound.
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That melody that starts in the intro is borrowed from some other
song--didn't you realize that? I can't tell you what song, might even
be a classical piece, but it's certainly not original.

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 by: Bill B - Mon, 5 Sep 2022 19:34 UTC

On Monday, September 5, 2022 at 2:27:29 PM UTC-4, DianeE wrote:
> On 9/5/2022 2:07 PM, Bill B wrote:
> > On Monday, September 5, 2022 at 11:57:39 AM UTC-4, Dennis C from Tennessee wrote:
> >> Roger's "Rockin' Pneumonia part 6" wins
> >> And that's why line judge Rowan tossed that flag!!
> >>
> >> 15 yds for flagrant reiteration, baby!!!
> >
> > My flag fluttered right beside yours. It's good to see somebody besides me who values originality and penalizes regurgitated puke.
> >
> > On the other hand, I thought my "Dancin' Holiday" had an original, creative sound.
> -----------
> That melody that starts in the intro is borrowed from some other
> song--didn't you realize that? I can't tell you what song, might even
> be a classical piece, but it's certainly not original.

It's Classical, but original to Doo-Wop.

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 by: Bruce - Mon, 5 Sep 2022 19:40 UTC

On Monday, September 5, 2022 at 3:34:32 PM UTC-4, bb...@optonline.net wrote:
> On Monday, September 5, 2022 at 2:27:29 PM UTC-4, DianeE wrote:
> > On 9/5/2022 2:07 PM, Bill B wrote:
> > > On Monday, September 5, 2022 at 11:57:39 AM UTC-4, Dennis C from Tennessee wrote:
> > >> Roger's "Rockin' Pneumonia part 6" wins
> > >> And that's why line judge Rowan tossed that flag!!
> > >>
> > >> 15 yds for flagrant reiteration, baby!!!
> > >
> > > My flag fluttered right beside yours. It's good to see somebody besides me who values originality and penalizes regurgitated puke.
> > >
> > > On the other hand, I thought my "Dancin' Holiday" had an original, creative sound.
> > -----------
> > That melody that starts in the intro is borrowed from some other
> > song--didn't you realize that? I can't tell you what song, might even
> > be a classical piece, but it's certainly not original.
> It's Classical, but original to Doo-Wop.

LOL, nice try.

So originality only matters within genres?

That lets all the doo wop groups that recorded old standards and covers of current pop songs off the hook. How convenient. Does "You Cheated" by the Shields get penalized for being a cover of another doo wop group's song?? How about "Why Don't You Write Me" by the Jacks?

Does "Crying In The Chapel" by the Orioles get penalized for being a cover, or is it exempt from that because it was "original to doo wop?"

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 by: Bill B - Mon, 5 Sep 2022 19:48 UTC

On Monday, September 5, 2022 at 3:40:46 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> On Monday, September 5, 2022 at 3:34:32 PM UTC-4, bb... wrote:
> > On Monday, September 5, 2022 at 2:27:29 PM UTC-4, DianeE wrote:
> > > On 9/5/2022 2:07 PM, Bill B wrote:
> > > > On Monday, September 5, 2022 at 11:57:39 AM UTC-4, Dennis C from Tennessee wrote:
> > > >> Roger's "Rockin' Pneumonia part 6" wins
> > > >> And that's why line judge Rowan tossed that flag!!
> > > >>
> > > >> 15 yds for flagrant reiteration, baby!!!
> > > >
> > > > My flag fluttered right beside yours. It's good to see somebody besides me who values originality and penalizes regurgitated puke.
> > > >
> > > > On the other hand, I thought my "Dancin' Holiday" had an original, creative sound.
> > > -----------
> > > That melody that starts in the intro is borrowed from some other
> > > song--didn't you realize that? I can't tell you what song, might even
> > > be a classical piece, but it's certainly not original.
> > It's Classical, but original to Doo-Wop.
> LOL, nice try.
>
> So originality only matters within genres?
>
> That lets all the doo wop groups that recorded old standards and covers of current pop songs off the hook. How convenient. Does "You Cheated" by the Shields get penalized for being a cover of another doo wop group's song?? How about "Why Don't You Write Me" by the Jacks?
>
> Does "Crying In The Chapel" by the Orioles get penalized for being a cover, or is it exempt from that because it was "original to doo wop?"

When you resort to absurdity, you render your argument specious.

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 by: Roger Ford - Mon, 5 Sep 2022 19:53 UTC

On Mon, 5 Sep 2022 14:27:27 -0400, DianeE <DianeE@NoSpam.net> wrote:

>On 9/5/2022 2:07 PM, Bill B wrote:
>> On Monday, September 5, 2022 at 11:57:39 AM UTC-4, Dennis C from Tennessee wrote:
>>> Roger's "Rockin' Pneumonia part 6" wins
>>> And that's why line judge Rowan tossed that flag!!
>>>
>>> 15 yds for flagrant reiteration, baby!!!
>>
>> My flag fluttered right beside yours. It's good to see somebody besides me who values originality and penalizes regurgitated puke.
>>
>> On the other hand, I thought my "Dancin' Holiday" had an original, creative sound.
>-----------
>That melody that starts in the intro is borrowed from some other
>song--didn't you realize that? I can't tell you what song, might even
>be a classical piece, but it's certainly not original.

I believe "Dancin' Holiday" is adapted from one of Franz Liszt's
classical pieces

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 by: Bruce - Mon, 5 Sep 2022 20:11 UTC

On Monday, September 5, 2022 at 3:48:59 PM UTC-4, bb...@optonline.net wrote:
> On Monday, September 5, 2022 at 3:40:46 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> > On Monday, September 5, 2022 at 3:34:32 PM UTC-4, bb... wrote:
> > > On Monday, September 5, 2022 at 2:27:29 PM UTC-4, DianeE wrote:
> > > > On 9/5/2022 2:07 PM, Bill B wrote:
> > > > > On Monday, September 5, 2022 at 11:57:39 AM UTC-4, Dennis C from Tennessee wrote:
> > > > >> Roger's "Rockin' Pneumonia part 6" wins
> > > > >> And that's why line judge Rowan tossed that flag!!
> > > > >>
> > > > >> 15 yds for flagrant reiteration, baby!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > My flag fluttered right beside yours. It's good to see somebody besides me who values originality and penalizes regurgitated puke.
> > > > >
> > > > > On the other hand, I thought my "Dancin' Holiday" had an original, creative sound.
> > > > -----------
> > > > That melody that starts in the intro is borrowed from some other
> > > > song--didn't you realize that? I can't tell you what song, might even
> > > > be a classical piece, but it's certainly not original.
> > > It's Classical, but original to Doo-Wop.
> > LOL, nice try.
> >
> > So originality only matters within genres?
> >
> > That lets all the doo wop groups that recorded old standards and covers of current pop songs off the hook. How convenient. Does "You Cheated" by the Shields get penalized for being a cover of another doo wop group's song?? How about "Why Don't You Write Me" by the Jacks?
> >
> > Does "Crying In The Chapel" by the Orioles get penalized for being a cover, or is it exempt from that because it was "original to doo wop?"
> When you resort to absurdity, you render your argument specious.

You started the absurdity with the "it's original to doo wop" comment. I'm just illustrating how absurd that is.

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