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 by: Roger Ford - Tue, 6 Sep 2022 05:16 UTC

So the UK gets its FOURTH Prime Minister of the last ten years later
today as the fair Liz Truss ascends to the highest elected office in
the land (after her audience with Her Maj)

Never in history has an incoming PM had to inherit such a bulging
in-tray....the cost of living crisis,the energy crisis,the war in
Ukraine, the very real prospect of working with a back from the dead
Donald Trump post-2024 etc etc

I wish her well but I have my doubts

On the bright side I felt the same about Margaret Thatcher at first...

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 by: Bruce - Tue, 6 Sep 2022 05:29 UTC

On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 1:16:32 AM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:

> the very real prospect of working with a back from the dead Donald Trump post-2024

She's more likely to encounter him if she visits a American prison than as president again. He'll likely be indicted more than once before our next presidential election season.

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 by: Roger Ford - Tue, 6 Sep 2022 06:10 UTC

On Mon, 5 Sep 2022 22:29:12 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <SavoyBG@aol.com>
wrote:

>On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 1:16:32 AM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
>
>> the very real prospect of working with a back from the dead Donald Trump post-2024
>
>She's more likely to encounter him if she visits a American prison than as president again. He'll likely be indicted more than once before our next presidential election season.

You may be right but just like Boris I would never write Trump off

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 by: Bruce - Tue, 6 Sep 2022 06:21 UTC

On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 2:10:38 AM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Sep 2022 22:29:12 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <Sav...@aol.com>
> wrote:
> >On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 1:16:32 AM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
> >
> >> the very real prospect of working with a back from the dead Donald Trump post-2024
> >
> >She's more likely to encounter him if she visits a American prison than as president again. He'll likely be indicted more than once before our next presidential election season.
> You may be right but just like Boris I would never write Trump off

Even if he's sitting in jail?

Some of the things he could be convicted of would carry also a penalty of never being able to run for national office again.

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 by: Roger Ford - Tue, 6 Sep 2022 09:57 UTC

On Mon, 5 Sep 2022 23:21:26 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <SavoyBG@aol.com>
wrote:

>On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 2:10:38 AM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
>> On Mon, 5 Sep 2022 22:29:12 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <Sav...@aol.com>
>> wrote:
>> >On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 1:16:32 AM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
>> >
>> >> the very real prospect of working with a back from the dead Donald Trump post-2024
>> >
>> >She's more likely to encounter him if she visits a American prison than as president again. He'll likely be indicted more than once before our next presidential election season.
>> You may be right but just like Boris I would never write Trump off
>
>Even if he's sitting in jail?
>
>Some of the things he could be convicted of would carry also a penalty of never being able to run for national office again.

These are all "ifs" and "maybes".

You may be right but I'm betting we haven't seen the last of the
Donald anymore than we've seen the last of Boris

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 by: DianeE - Tue, 6 Sep 2022 10:54 UTC

On 9/6/2022 1:16 AM, Roger Ford wrote:
> So the UK gets its FOURTH Prime Minister of the last ten years later
> today as the fair Liz Truss ascends to the highest elected office in
> the land (after her audience with Her Maj)
>
> Never in history has an incoming PM had to inherit such a bulging
> in-tray....the cost of living crisis,the energy crisis,the war in
> Ukraine, the very real prospect of working with a back from the dead
> Donald Trump post-2024 etc etc
>
> I wish her well but I have my doubts
>
> On the bright side I felt the same about Margaret Thatcher at first...
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On the bright side, you won't have to endure the world's hair jokes.

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 by: DianeE - Tue, 6 Sep 2022 10:57 UTC

On 9/6/2022 5:57 AM, Roger Ford wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Sep 2022 23:21:26 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <SavoyBG@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 2:10:38 AM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
>>> On Mon, 5 Sep 2022 22:29:12 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <Sav...@aol.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 1:16:32 AM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> the very real prospect of working with a back from the dead Donald Trump post-2024
>>>>
>>>> She's more likely to encounter him if she visits a American prison than as president again. He'll likely be indicted more than once before our next presidential election season.
>>> You may be right but just like Boris I would never write Trump off
>>
>> Even if he's sitting in jail?
>>
>> Some of the things he could be convicted of would carry also a penalty of never being able to run for national office again.
>
> These are all "ifs" and "maybes".
>
> You may be right but I'm betting we haven't seen the last of the
> Donald anymore than we've seen the last of Boris
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And regretfully I have to agree with Raj here.

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 by: Dennis C from Tennes - Tue, 6 Sep 2022 11:00 UTC

On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 6:54:31 AM UTC-4, DianeE wrote:
> On 9/6/2022 1:16 AM, Roger Ford wrote:
> > So the UK gets its FOURTH Prime Minister of the last ten years later
> > today as the fair Liz Truss ascends to the highest elected office in
> > the land (after her audience with Her Maj)
> >
> > Never in history has an incoming PM had to inherit such a bulging
> > in-tray....the cost of living crisis,the energy crisis,the war in
> > Ukraine, the very real prospect of working with a back from the dead
> > Donald Trump post-2024 etc etc
> >
> > I wish her well but I have my doubts
> >
> > On the bright side I felt the same about Margaret Thatcher at first...
> ----------
> On the bright side, you won't have to endure the world's hair jokes.

Some of the things he could be convicted of would carry also a penalty of never being able to run for national office again.

Dream on!!

What are "some of these things" oh political and historical savant?

Are they like that bullshit Russian collusion clown show that got that handfull of FBI weasels fired?

Any and all charges against the Donald have been trumped up and watch out!!

I see another Grover Cleveland reemergence on the horizon, baby!!

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On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 7:00:56 AM UTC-4, Dennis C from Tennessee wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 6:54:31 AM UTC-4, DianeE wrote:
> > On 9/6/2022 1:16 AM, Roger Ford wrote:
> > > So the UK gets its FOURTH Prime Minister of the last ten years later
> > > today as the fair Liz Truss ascends to the highest elected office in
> > > the land (after her audience with Her Maj)
> > >
> > > Never in history has an incoming PM had to inherit such a bulging
> > > in-tray....the cost of living crisis,the energy crisis,the war in
> > > Ukraine, the very real prospect of working with a back from the dead
> > > Donald Trump post-2024 etc etc
> > >
> > > I wish her well but I have my doubts
> > >
> > > On the bright side I felt the same about Margaret Thatcher at first...
> > ----------
> > On the bright side, you won't have to endure the world's hair jokes.
> Some of the things he could be convicted of would carry also a penalty of never being able to run for national office again.
> Dream on!!
>
> What are "some of these things" oh political and historical savant?

Election tampering in Georgia.

Inciting the insurrection - federal

Stealing and refusing to turn over top secret documents - federal

Fraud in New York for phonying up loan applications

Tax fraud for phonying up returns with false information

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On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 8:15:29 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 7:00:56 AM UTC-4, Dennis C from Tennessee wrote:
> > On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 6:54:31 AM UTC-4, DianeE wrote:
> > > On 9/6/2022 1:16 AM, Roger Ford wrote:
> > > > So the UK gets its FOURTH Prime Minister of the last ten years later
> > > > today as the fair Liz Truss ascends to the highest elected office in
> > > > the land (after her audience with Her Maj)
> > > >
> > > > Never in history has an incoming PM had to inherit such a bulging
> > > > in-tray....the cost of living crisis,the energy crisis,the war in
> > > > Ukraine, the very real prospect of working with a back from the dead
> > > > Donald Trump post-2024 etc etc
> > > >
> > > > I wish her well but I have my doubts
> > > >
> > > > On the bright side I felt the same about Margaret Thatcher at first...
> > > ----------
> > > On the bright side, you won't have to endure the world's hair jokes.
> > Some of the things he could be convicted of would carry also a penalty of never being able to run for national office again.
> > Dream on!!
> >
> > What are "some of these things" oh political and historical savant?
> Election tampering in Georgia.
>
> Inciting the insurrection - federal
>
> Stealing and refusing to turn over top secret documents - federal
>
> Fraud in New York for phonying up loan applications
>
> Tax fraud for phonying up returns with false information

Poppycock

Balderdash

Bollucks

Bilge

Flummery

Wipe the CNN slurp off your mug, son......you're addlin' your brain!!!

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On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 9:06:03 AM UTC-4, Dennis C from Tennessee wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 8:15:29 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> > On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 7:00:56 AM UTC-4, Dennis C from Tennessee wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 6:54:31 AM UTC-4, DianeE wrote:
> > > > On 9/6/2022 1:16 AM, Roger Ford wrote:
> > > > > So the UK gets its FOURTH Prime Minister of the last ten years later
> > > > > today as the fair Liz Truss ascends to the highest elected office in
> > > > > the land (after her audience with Her Maj)
> > > > >
> > > > > Never in history has an incoming PM had to inherit such a bulging
> > > > > in-tray....the cost of living crisis,the energy crisis,the war in
> > > > > Ukraine, the very real prospect of working with a back from the dead
> > > > > Donald Trump post-2024 etc etc
> > > > >
> > > > > I wish her well but I have my doubts
> > > > >
> > > > > On the bright side I felt the same about Margaret Thatcher at first...
> > > > ----------
> > > > On the bright side, you won't have to endure the world's hair jokes.
> > > Some of the things he could be convicted of would carry also a penalty of never being able to run for national office again.
> > > Dream on!!
> > >
> > > What are "some of these things" oh political and historical savant?
> > Election tampering in Georgia.
> >
> > Inciting the insurrection - federal
> >
> > Stealing and refusing to turn over top secret documents - federal
> >
> > Fraud in New York for phonying up loan applications
> >
> > Tax fraud for phonying up returns with false information
> Poppycock
>
> Balderdash
>
> Bollucks
>
> Bilge
>
> Flummery
>
> Wipe the CNN slurp off your mug, son......you're addlin' your brain!!!

If you did any one of those things you'd be buried under the jail by now.

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On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 9:13:07 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 9:06:03 AM UTC-4, Dennis C from Tennessee wrote:
> > On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 8:15:29 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 7:00:56 AM UTC-4, Dennis C from Tennessee wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 6:54:31 AM UTC-4, DianeE wrote:
> > > > > On 9/6/2022 1:16 AM, Roger Ford wrote:
> > > > > > So the UK gets its FOURTH Prime Minister of the last ten years later
> > > > > > today as the fair Liz Truss ascends to the highest elected office in
> > > > > > the land (after her audience with Her Maj)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Never in history has an incoming PM had to inherit such a bulging
> > > > > > in-tray....the cost of living crisis,the energy crisis,the war in
> > > > > > Ukraine, the very real prospect of working with a back from the dead
> > > > > > Donald Trump post-2024 etc etc
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I wish her well but I have my doubts
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On the bright side I felt the same about Margaret Thatcher at first...
> > > > > ----------
> > > > > On the bright side, you won't have to endure the world's hair jokes.
> > > > Some of the things he could be convicted of would carry also a penalty of never being able to run for national office again.
> > > > Dream on!!
> > > >
> > > > What are "some of these things" oh political and historical savant?
> > > Election tampering in Georgia.
> > >
> > > Inciting the insurrection - federal
> > >
> > > Stealing and refusing to turn over top secret documents - federal
> > >
> > > Fraud in New York for phonying up loan applications
> > >
> > > Tax fraud for phonying up returns with false information
> > Poppycock
> >
> > Balderdash
> >
> > Bollucks
> >
> > Bilge
> >
> > Flummery
> >
> > Wipe the CNN slurp off your mug, son......you're addlin' your brain!!!
> If you did any one of those things you'd be buried under the jail by now.

Don't count the citrus coif out!!

If he gets back in in '24 historians will mark it as the most monumental comeback since Neil Sedaka 1973, baby!!

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On Tue, 06 Sep 2022 05:16:22 GMT, mariabus@bblueyonder.co.uk (Roger
Ford) wrote:

Firstly, Roger, following Brit Politics and other leading Brit news on
the BBC, but far more so on UK Sky {Press Preview}, is like following
an entertaining and absorbing TV soap opera (NBC's Days Of Our Lives
is rubbish in comparison :)

>So the UK gets its FOURTH Prime Minister of the last ten years

Another way of putting it, Roger, is the forth PM in six years.

>later today as the fair Liz Truss ascends to the highest elected office in
>the land (after her audience with Her Maj)

"Just over 172,000 Tory {mostly well-off, thus tax-cut loving} members
had been eligible to vote, with turnout of 82.6 per cent. The result
was closer than polls had predicted, with Ms Truss gaining just over
57% of the vote, compared to around 43% for {colored} Mr Sunak"

{when the two candidates for Tory Leader were chosen, the majority of
Members of Parliament supported Rishi Sunak, not Liz Truss}

At the beginning of the mail-in voting period, there was a rule
whereby voters could *change* their vote during the voting period
via the Internet. This rule was quickly scrapped over concerns of
potential hacking.

I mention this because over the voting period, hard right Liz Truss
(47, raised in a very left-wing household) became less popular with
Tory members as they got to know her better. It follows that if votes
had been made in just the last week, instead of over the last eight
weeks, then Rishi Sunak might have won, or at least the voting would
have been very much closer - indicating a strong rift within the
Tories (referred to as 'blue on blue'). Generally speaking, Sunak
campaigned with relatively 'realistic' financial policies while Truss
promoted right-wing 'ideological' policies that appealed to the
voting 172,000 Tory party members.

>Never in history has an incoming PM had to inherit such a bulging
>in-tray....the cost of living crisis,the energy crisis,the war in
>Ukraine,... etc etc
>
>I wish her well but I have my doubts

Right now, likely tens of millions of Brits have similar doubts.

Liz Truss is well-known for lacking international skills in diplomacy.
She is crudely anti-Russian for instance. She adheres to a hard line
in defending Britain's interests and *does not wish to take into
account the position of others or to make any compromises*.
This will not help to maintain or strengthen the UK's reputation on
the international stage. However, a slight majority of British voters
recently surveyed said they backed Liz Truss's reservations about the
French President (because, for one, he is not doing enough to stop
migrants {eg Albanians} crossing from France to England).

Narcissist and pathological liar Boris Johnson will think he has a
good chance of returning to power before the next general election in
2024.
>
>On the bright side I felt the same about Margaret Thatcher at first...

At least one political commentator, on UK Sky, has said something
similar, Roger.

Gee, there is so much more that could be said on this topic.

"She (Truss) has her own principles, primarily, adherence to a hard
line in defending Britain’s interests without any wish to take into
account the position of others or to make any compromises," Lavrov
said. "I don’t think that this will help to maintain or strengthen
that country’s stance on the international stage, which has clearly
been dented after Brexit. Now London has for a long time been actively
trying to compensate for this loss of identity and of influence in the
European Union by taking quite drastic steps, including aggressive
actions regarding the situation that has developed around Ukraine. We
all know this."

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 by: RWC - Wed, 7 Sep 2022 14:22 UTC

On Tue, 6 Sep 2022 05:15:28 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <SavoyBG@aol.com>
wrote:

alleged Trump misdeeds:

>Election tampering in Georgia.
>
>Inciting the insurrection - federal
>
>Stealing and refusing to turn over top secret documents - federal
>
>Fraud in New York for phonying up loan applications
>
>Tax fraud for phonying up returns with false information
>
"Loaded liberals are forking out millions of dollars on 'golden
passports' because they are scared of a Trump-led civil war in 2024,
immigration lawyers have revealed. The wealthy wokes are splashing out
the huge sums to bag visas letting them escape to countries such as
Austria, Turkey, Jordan and the Caribbean, the attorneys said.

Consultants told how they have seen a huge spike in interest for
citizenships for second countries over the last few years.
Many were petrified at the thought of another Trump administration,
while others cited the Roe v Wade ruling and the 2008 financial crash
that rocked the US."

For chic Austria, a 'golden passport' can cost as much as $10 million.
Malta is one of the most popular and highly recommended 'golden visa'
locations, costing somewhere in the ballpark of $1 million for access
to the European Union via the small island nation.
St. Kitts and Nevis could become a permanent vacation spot for about
$500,000 (entrepreneur Roger from Essex might be interested if Labour
win the next UK general election :-)

"There are people who are convinced that this country is filled with
lunatic Christian fundamentalists and good old boys from the South,"
said E-2 Visa Solutions founder Marc Hyman, another executive who
helps the wealthy arrange for international escape.

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