Several years ago, I made a bunch of doo-wop playlists on my iTunes. Each one contained 150 songs that went chronologically from the late 1940s - early 1960s.

Last night, I listened to one of those playlists. Starting with 1958, the white groups began to proliferate. It was also at that point that I began to frequently employ the "skip" option.

I hadn't listened to those playlists in quite some time. Clearly, when I made them, all those white groups sounded OK to me. But last night, they were like fingernails on a chalkboard! (Remember those?)

Clearly, my tastes continue to shift.

On Wednesday, September 7, 2022 at 5:12:47 AM UTC-4, Dean F. wrote:
> Several years ago, I made a bunch of doo-wop playlists on my iTunes. Each one contained 150 songs that went chronologically from the late 1940s - early 1960s.
>
> Last night, I listened to one of those playlists. Starting with 1958, the white groups began to proliferate. It was also at that point that I began to frequently employ the "skip" option.
>
> I hadn't listened to those playlists in quite some time. Clearly, when I made them, all those white groups sounded OK to me. But last night, they were like fingernails on a chalkboard! (Remember those?)
>
> Clearly, my tastes continue to shift.

You'll know they have fully matured when you start to gag if you hear things like "Sherry" and "Dawn" and especially "Candy Girl."

On Wed, 7 Sep 2022 06:05:14 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <SavoyBG@aol.com>
wrote:
>On Wednesday, September 7, 2022 at 5:12:47 AM UTC-4, Dean F. wrote:

>> Clearly, my tastes continue to shift.
>
>You'll know they have fully matured when you start to gag if you hear things like "Sherry" and "Dawn" and especially "Candy Girl."

playlist "The Very Best of Frankie Valli & The Four Seasons":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNo2OTI_rIo

*1. Sherry 0:00:00
2. Big Girls Don't Cry 0:02:32
3. Walk Like a Man 0:04:58
*4. Candy Girl 0:07:14
*5. Dawn (Go Away) 0:09:52
6. Ronnie 0:12:39
7. Rag Doll 0:15:37
8. Save It for Me 0:18:38
9. Bye Bye Baby (Baby Goodbye) 0:21:15
10. Let's Hang On 0:23:48
11. Working My Way Back to You 0:27:06
12. Opus 17 (Don't You Worry 'Bout Me) 0:30:11
13. I've Got You Under My Skin 0:32:45
14. C'mon Marianne 0:36:26
15. Can't Take My Eyes off You 0:39:04
16. My Eyes Adored You 0:42:25
17. Swearin' to God (Single Version) 0:45:58
18. Who Loves You 0:50:03
19. December, 1963 (Oh What a Night!) 0:54:14
20. Grease 0:57:36

On Wednesday, September 7, 2022 at 11:18:01 AM UTC-4, RWC wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Sep 2022 06:05:14 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <Sav...@aol.com>
> wrote:
> >On Wednesday, September 7, 2022 at 5:12:47 AM UTC-4, Dean F. wrote:
>
> >> Clearly, my tastes continue to shift.
> >
> >You'll know they have fully matured when you start to gag if you hear things like "Sherry" and "Dawn" and especially "Candy Girl."
> playlist "The Very Best of Frankie Valli & The Four Seasons":
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNo2OTI_rIo

> 7. Rag Doll 0:15:37
> 15. Can't Take My Eyes off You 0:39:04

The only 2 that I still like, and the second one is because he doesn't do any of that annoying falsetto of his.

On Wed, 07 Sep 2022 11:17:57 -0400, RWC <geoff@opbox.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 7 Sep 2022 06:05:14 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <SavoyBG@aol.com>
>wrote:
>>On Wednesday, September 7, 2022 at 5:12:47 AM UTC-4, Dean F. wrote:
>
>>> Clearly, my tastes continue to shift.
>>
>>You'll know they have fully matured when you start to gag if you hear things like "Sherry" and "Dawn" and especially "Candy Girl."
>
>playlist "The Very Best of Frankie Valli & The Four Seasons":
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNo2OTI_rIo
>
>*1. Sherry 0:00:00
>2. Big Girls Don't Cry 0:02:32
>3. Walk Like a Man 0:04:58
>*4. Candy Girl 0:07:14
>*5. Dawn (Go Away) 0:09:52
>6. Ronnie 0:12:39
>7. Rag Doll 0:15:37
>8. Save It for Me 0:18:38
>9. Bye Bye Baby (Baby Goodbye) 0:21:15
>10. Let's Hang On 0:23:48
>11. Working My Way Back to You 0:27:06
>12. Opus 17 (Don't You Worry 'Bout Me) 0:30:11
>13. I've Got You Under My Skin 0:32:45
>14. C'mon Marianne 0:36:26
>15. Can't Take My Eyes off You 0:39:04
>16. My Eyes Adored You 0:42:25
>17. Swearin' to God (Single Version) 0:45:58
>18. Who Loves You 0:50:03
>19. December, 1963 (Oh What a Night!) 0:54:14
>20. Grease 0:57:36

The Seasons share my #1 favorite white group of the 60's spot with The
Beach Boys. I liked practically all the songs above when they were out
and that hasn't diminished one iota over the years since.

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On Wednesday, September 7, 2022 at 3:33:14 PM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
> On Wed, 07 Sep 2022 11:17:57 -0400, RWC <ge...@opbox.com> wrote:
>
> >On Wed, 7 Sep 2022 06:05:14 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <Sav...@aol.com>
> >wrote:
> >>On Wednesday, September 7, 2022 at 5:12:47 AM UTC-4, Dean F. wrote:
> >
> >>> Clearly, my tastes continue to shift.
> >>
> >>You'll know they have fully matured when you start to gag if you hear things like "Sherry" and "Dawn" and especially "Candy Girl."
> >
> >playlist "The Very Best of Frankie Valli & The Four Seasons":
> >
> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNo2OTI_rIo
> >
> >*1. Sherry 0:00:00
> >2. Big Girls Don't Cry 0:02:32
> >3. Walk Like a Man 0:04:58
> >*4. Candy Girl 0:07:14
> >*5. Dawn (Go Away) 0:09:52
> >6. Ronnie 0:12:39
> >7. Rag Doll 0:15:37
> >8. Save It for Me 0:18:38
> >9. Bye Bye Baby (Baby Goodbye) 0:21:15
> >10. Let's Hang On 0:23:48
> >11. Working My Way Back to You 0:27:06
> >12. Opus 17 (Don't You Worry 'Bout Me) 0:30:11
> >13. I've Got You Under My Skin 0:32:45
> >14. C'mon Marianne 0:36:26
> >15. Can't Take My Eyes off You 0:39:04
> >16. My Eyes Adored You 0:42:25
> >17. Swearin' to God (Single Version) 0:45:58
> >18. Who Loves You 0:50:03
> >19. December, 1963 (Oh What a Night!) 0:54:14
> >20. Grease 0:57:36

> The Seasons share my #1 favorite white group of the 60's spot with The
> Beach Boys. I liked practically all the songs above when they were out
> and that hasn't diminished one iota over the years since.

So I guess you prefer the Seasons to any of the British groups?

Speaking of not diminishing, is there any stuff that you used to like a lot, but now you don't like at all? Or vice versa, things you disliked back then but now really like?

For instance I hated "Oh Happy Day" when it was a hit in 1969 and I was 11-12 years old. Also did not like adult sounding things from that time, like "Only The Strong Survive." Now I like both of those a lot, and "Only The Strong Survive" is a 10 and one of my top favorites of 1968. I liked most of Four Seasons hits at one time, but now most of them get like a 4 or a 5 at best. The singing is not very good IMO, and the style is very hokey. The bass singer blows, he's one of those phony white bass singers with a put on forced bass voice.

On Wednesday, September 7, 2022 at 9:05:16 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:

> You'll know they have fully matured when you start to gag if you hear things like "Sherry" and "Dawn" and especially "Candy Girl."

I got over the Four Seasons some 20 years ago. I was referring to the early '60s white doo-wop sound in general, especially when violins are present.

On Wednesday, September 7, 2022 at 9:19:19 PM UTC-4, Dean F. wrote:
> On Wednesday, September 7, 2022 at 9:05:16 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>
> > You'll know they have fully matured when you start to gag if you hear things like "Sherry" and "Dawn" and especially "Candy Girl."
> I got over the Four Seasons some 20 years ago.

But do you gag now when you hear those things?

> I was referring to the early '60s white doo-wop sound in general, especially when violins are present.

You're coming around, my boy!

On Wed, 7 Sep 2022 12:45:58 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <SavoyBG@aol.com>
wrote:

>On Wednesday, September 7, 2022 at 3:33:14 PM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:

>> The Seasons share my #1 favorite white group of the 60's spot with The
>> Beach Boys. I liked practically all the songs above when they were out
>> and that hasn't diminished one iota over the years since.
>
>So I guess you prefer the Seasons to any of the British groups?
>
Obviously

>Speaking of not diminishing, is there any stuff that you used to like a lot=
>, but now you don't like at all? Or vice versa, things you disliked back th=
>en but now really like?
>
I used to like things like "Chantilly Lace" and "Rockin' Robin" among
others which I find very maudlin and mundane today

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On Thursday, September 8, 2022 at 12:52:36 AM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Sep 2022 12:45:58 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <Sav...@aol.com>
> wrote:
> >On Wednesday, September 7, 2022 at 3:33:14 PM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
>
> >> The Seasons share my #1 favorite white group of the 60's spot with The
> >> Beach Boys. I liked practically all the songs above when they were out
> >> and that hasn't diminished one iota over the years since.
> >
> >So I guess you prefer the Seasons to any of the British groups?
> >
> Obviously

Yikes.

> >Speaking of not diminishing, is there any stuff that you used to like a lot=
> >, but now you don't like at all? Or vice versa, things you disliked back th=
> >en but now really like?
> >
> I used to like things like "Chantilly Lace" and "Rockin' Robin" among
> others which I find very maudlin and mundane today

I still like both of them.