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 by: Bruce - Fri, 9 Sep 2022 14:24 UTC

Don't know how Roger feels about this, but I think I remember him once saying that he was a UK Republican who wanted the monarchy to be abolished.

Over 183,000 people die everyday around the world, but I'm supposed to care about the death of some ridiculously privileged woman who made it to 96 years old?

I have much more respect for a regular woman who struggles with a moderate income taking care of a family than I do for some Lucky Sperm Club member born into wealth who never had to worry about anything all that serious in her whole life. Her biggest worry is whether or not her longass white gloves fit correctly.

Thoughts anyone?

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 by: Dennis C from Tennes - Fri, 9 Sep 2022 14:30 UTC

On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 10:24:48 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> Don't know how Roger feels about this, but I think I remember him once saying that he was a UK Republican who wanted the monarchy to be abolished.
>
> Over 183,000 people die everyday around the world, but I'm supposed to care about the death of some ridiculously privileged woman who made it to 96 years old?
>
> I have much more respect for a regular woman who struggles with a moderate income taking care of a family than I do for some Lucky Sperm Club member born into wealth who never had to worry about anything all that serious in her whole life. Her biggest worry is whether or not her longass white gloves fit correctly.
>
> Thoughts anyone?

Who else did a double take today while watching King Charles and Consort Camilla today at how they physically resemble Joe and Jill Biden?

Not good, baby!!

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 by: Bruce - Fri, 9 Sep 2022 14:33 UTC

On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 10:30:58 AM UTC-4, Dennis C from Tennessee wrote:
> On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 10:24:48 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> > Don't know how Roger feels about this, but I think I remember him once saying that he was a UK Republican who wanted the monarchy to be abolished.
> >
> > Over 183,000 people die everyday around the world, but I'm supposed to care about the death of some ridiculously privileged woman who made it to 96 years old?
> >
> > I have much more respect for a regular woman who struggles with a moderate income taking care of a family than I do for some Lucky Sperm Club member born into wealth who never had to worry about anything all that serious in her whole life. Her biggest worry is whether or not her longass white gloves fit correctly.
> >
> > Thoughts anyone?
> Who else did a double take today while watching King Charles and Consort Camilla today at how they physically resemble Joe and Jill Biden?
>
> Not good, baby!!

WHY are you even watching, and who the fuck is Consort Camilla?

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 by: Dennis C from Tennes - Fri, 9 Sep 2022 14:44 UTC

On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 10:33:20 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 10:30:58 AM UTC-4, Dennis C from Tennessee wrote:
> > On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 10:24:48 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> > > Don't know how Roger feels about this, but I think I remember him once saying that he was a UK Republican who wanted the monarchy to be abolished.
> > >
> > > Over 183,000 people die everyday around the world, but I'm supposed to care about the death of some ridiculously privileged woman who made it to 96 years old?
> > >
> > > I have much more respect for a regular woman who struggles with a moderate income taking care of a family than I do for some Lucky Sperm Club member born into wealth who never had to worry about anything all that serious in her whole life. Her biggest worry is whether or not her longass white gloves fit correctly.
> > >
> > > Thoughts anyone?
> > Who else did a double take today while watching King Charles and Consort Camilla today at how they physically resemble Joe and Jill Biden?
> >
> > Not good, baby!!
> WHY are you even watching, and who the fuck is Consort Camilla?

Calm down old boy!!

You're sounding like a typical class- conscious commoner!!
How many times have you......yes you...waved your Lubinsky Spermatic Members Only card in our faces??!!

I guess you now know how the rest of us Savoy- stomped lumpins feel, baby!!

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 by: Bruce - Fri, 9 Sep 2022 14:50 UTC

On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 10:44:23 AM UTC-4, Dennis C from Tennessee wrote:

> Calm down old boy!!
>
> You're sounding like a typical class- conscious commoner!!
> How many times have you......yes you...waved your Lubinsky Spermatic Members Only card in our faces??!!
>
> I guess you now know how the rest of us Savoy- stomped lumpins feel, baby!!

The only thing I ever got from Herman was a $25 savings bond for my Bar Mitzvah, which he did not attend, by the way. My father's father, a shoe salesman like Al Bundy, gave me an insurance policy that I was able to cash in when I hit 18 or 21, I think.

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 by: Dennis C from Tennes - Fri, 9 Sep 2022 15:27 UTC

On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 10:50:06 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 10:44:23 AM UTC-4, Dennis C from Tennessee wrote:
>
> > Calm down old boy!!
> >
> > You're sounding like a typical class- conscious commoner!!
> > How many times have you......yes you...waved your Lubinsky Spermatic Members Only card in our faces??!!
> >
> > I guess you now know how the rest of us Savoy- stomped lumpins feel, baby!!
> The only thing I ever got from Herman was a $25 savings bond for my Bar Mitzvah, which he did not attend, by the way. My father's father, a shoe salesman like Al Bundy, gave me an insurance policy that I was able to cash in when I hit 18 or 21, I think.

Was it a nice Bar Mitzvah?

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 by: Bruce - Fri, 9 Sep 2022 16:01 UTC

On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 11:27:17 AM UTC-4, Dennis C from Tennessee wrote:
> On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 10:50:06 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> > On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 10:44:23 AM UTC-4, Dennis C from Tennessee wrote:
> >
> > > Calm down old boy!!
> > >
> > > You're sounding like a typical class- conscious commoner!!
> > > How many times have you......yes you...waved your Lubinsky Spermatic Members Only card in our faces??!!
> > >
> > > I guess you now know how the rest of us Savoy- stomped lumpins feel, baby!!
> > The only thing I ever got from Herman was a $25 savings bond for my Bar Mitzvah, which he did not attend, by the way. My father's father, a shoe salesman like Al Bundy, gave me an insurance policy that I was able to cash in when I hit 18 or 21, I think.
> Was it a nice Bar Mitzvah?

The first picture in Doug's Bruce Grossberg page is from there.

http://history-of-rock.com/bruce_montage.htm

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 by: Dennis C from Tennes - Fri, 9 Sep 2022 16:29 UTC

On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 12:01:30 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 11:27:17 AM UTC-4, Dennis C from Tennessee wrote:
> > On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 10:50:06 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> > > On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 10:44:23 AM UTC-4, Dennis C from Tennessee wrote:
> > >
> > > > Calm down old boy!!
> > > >
> > > > You're sounding like a typical class- conscious commoner!!
> > > > How many times have you......yes you...waved your Lubinsky Spermatic Members Only card in our faces??!!
> > > >
> > > > I guess you now know how the rest of us Savoy- stomped lumpins feel, baby!!
> > > The only thing I ever got from Herman was a $25 savings bond for my Bar Mitzvah, which he did not attend, by the way. My father's father, a shoe salesman like Al Bundy, gave me an insurance policy that I was able to cash in when I hit 18 or 21, I think.
> > Was it a nice Bar Mitzvah?
> The first picture in Doug's Bruce Grossberg page is from there.
>
> http://history-of-rock.com/bruce_montage.htm

You look as beatifically thrilled as me in my First Communion photo which I blessedly don't have anymore!!

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On 9/9/2022 10:24 AM, Bruce wrote:
> Don't know how Roger feels about this, but I think I remember him once saying that he was a UK Republican who wanted the monarchy to be abolished.
>
> Over 183,000 people die everyday around the world, but I'm supposed to care about the death of some ridiculously privileged woman who made it to 96 years old?
>
> I have much more respect for a regular woman who struggles with a moderate income taking care of a family than I do for some Lucky Sperm Club member born into wealth who never had to worry about anything all that serious in her whole life. Her biggest worry is whether or not her longass white gloves fit correctly.
>
> Thoughts anyone?
>
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Look at it this way: If she had been the monarch in the 1770s we
probably wouldn't have revolted.

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 by: Bruce - Fri, 9 Sep 2022 19:43 UTC

On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 2:31:44 PM UTC-4, DianeE wrote:
> On 9/9/2022 10:24 AM, Bruce wrote:
> > Don't know how Roger feels about this, but I think I remember him once saying that he was a UK Republican who wanted the monarchy to be abolished.
> >
> > Over 183,000 people die everyday around the world, but I'm supposed to care about the death of some ridiculously privileged woman who made it to 96 years old?
> >
> > I have much more respect for a regular woman who struggles with a moderate income taking care of a family than I do for some Lucky Sperm Club member born into wealth who never had to worry about anything all that serious in her whole life. Her biggest worry is whether or not her longass white gloves fit correctly.
> >
> > Thoughts anyone?
> >
> ----------
> Look at it this way: If she had been the monarch in the 1770s we
> probably wouldn't have revolted.

Oh bullshit.

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Okay, I have to give her some respect for this:

FYI, Queen Elizabeth served in the military more than the entire family of don the con, first as an ambulance driver and later as a mechanic. not just for show, she trained seriously as England expected to be invaded, and it was believed special forces could parachute down into Buckingham palace to kidnap the royal family, she carried a side arm and said she hoped to take out a few before they carried her off.

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 by: Dennis C from Tennes - Fri, 9 Sep 2022 21:16 UTC

On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 4:17:04 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> Okay, I have to give her some respect for this:
>
> FYI, Queen Elizabeth served in the military more than the entire family of don the con, first as an ambulance driver and later as a mechanic. not just for show, she trained seriously as England expected to be invaded, and it was believed special forces could parachute down into Buckingham palace to kidnap the royal family, she carried a side arm and said she hoped to take out a few before they carried her off.
>
> https://scontent.fewr1-6.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/306385201_10160042968716061_2062618628742835672_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=Dr20Ygldbm4AX_xe2bL&_nc_ht=scontent.fewr1-6.fna&oh=00_AT_xbfAdzm7FWZCtb8CSSsFnBAwhd4It_TV3W_n9U9CKMQ&oe=632018EC

Choice between pogrom and pro gun!!!

You made the right call, Doug Harvey!!!

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 by: DianeE - Sat, 10 Sep 2022 00:16 UTC

On 9/9/2022 10:24 AM, Bruce wrote:
> Don't know how Roger feels about this, but I think I remember him once saying that he was a UK Republican who wanted the monarchy to be abolished.
>
> Over 183,000 people die everyday around the world, but I'm supposed to care about the death of some ridiculously privileged woman who made it to 96 years old?
>
> I have much more respect for a regular woman who struggles with a moderate income taking care of a family than I do for some Lucky Sperm Club member born into wealth who never had to worry about anything all that serious in her whole life. Her biggest worry is whether or not her longass white gloves fit correctly.
>
> Thoughts anyone?
>
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John Lydon, of Sex Pistols "God Save The Queen" fame, said "May she rest
in peace" and stated that he has nothing against any member of the royal
family, just the institution of monarchy. But from what I've been
hearing, he (and Roger) are in the minority. The majority of Brits want
it to continue. Their grief is real.
I saw Jamaicans being interviewed, saying "She was our Queen and we
loved her." Don't know if that was a majority opinion.
My point is...millions of people give a shit. They loved and admired her.
Another thing you don't take into consideration is what she meant to
girls and women. Stevie Nicks said something about how she was
surrounded by powerful men and let them know, with grace and dignity,
that she was the Queen...and you're not.

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 by: Bruce - Sat, 10 Sep 2022 00:19 UTC

On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 8:16:44 PM UTC-4, DianeE wrote:
> On 9/9/2022 10:24 AM, Bruce wrote:
> > Don't know how Roger feels about this, but I think I remember him once saying that he was a UK Republican who wanted the monarchy to be abolished.
> >
> > Over 183,000 people die everyday around the world, but I'm supposed to care about the death of some ridiculously privileged woman who made it to 96 years old?
> >
> > I have much more respect for a regular woman who struggles with a moderate income taking care of a family than I do for some Lucky Sperm Club member born into wealth who never had to worry about anything all that serious in her whole life. Her biggest worry is whether or not her longass white gloves fit correctly.
> >
> > Thoughts anyone?
> >
> ----------
> John Lydon, of Sex Pistols "God Save The Queen" fame, said "May she rest
> in peace" and stated that he has nothing against any member of the royal
> family, just the institution of monarchy. But from what I've been
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> I saw Jamaicans being interviewed, saying "She was our Queen and we
> loved her." Don't know if that was a majority opinion.
> My point is...millions of people give a shit. They loved and admired her.
> Another thing you don't take into consideration is what she meant to
> girls and women. Stevie Nicks said something about how she was
> surrounded by powerful men and let them know, with grace and dignity,
> that she was the Queen...and you're not.

But being the queen in the modern world does not hold any real power. You're just a figurehead for tourism. The queen can't change any laws, or dole out any funds.

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 by: Dennis C from Tennes - Sat, 10 Sep 2022 00:52 UTC

On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 8:19:47 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 8:16:44 PM UTC-4, DianeE wrote:
> > On 9/9/2022 10:24 AM, Bruce wrote:
> > > Don't know how Roger feels about this, but I think I remember him once saying that he was a UK Republican who wanted the monarchy to be abolished.
> > >
> > > Over 183,000 people die everyday around the world, but I'm supposed to care about the death of some ridiculously privileged woman who made it to 96 years old?
> > >
> > > I have much more respect for a regular woman who struggles with a moderate income taking care of a family than I do for some Lucky Sperm Club member born into wealth who never had to worry about anything all that serious in her whole life. Her biggest worry is whether or not her longass white gloves fit correctly.
> > >
> > > Thoughts anyone?
> > >
> > ----------
> > John Lydon, of Sex Pistols "God Save The Queen" fame, said "May she rest
> > in peace" and stated that he has nothing against any member of the royal
> > family, just the institution of monarchy. But from what I've been
> > hearing, he (and Roger) are in the minority. The majority of Brits want
> > it to continue. Their grief is real.
> > I saw Jamaicans being interviewed, saying "She was our Queen and we
> > loved her." Don't know if that was a majority opinion.
> > My point is...millions of people give a shit. They loved and admired her.
> > Another thing you don't take into consideration is what she meant to
> > girls and women. Stevie Nicks said something about how she was
> > surrounded by powerful men and let them know, with grace and dignity,
> > that she was the Queen...and you're not.
> But being the queen in the modern world does not hold any real power. You're just a figurehead for tourism. The queen can't change any laws, or dole out any funds.

The queen can't change any laws, or dole out any funds.

The ideal leader of a repreaentative government, baby!!

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On Fri, 9 Sep 2022 20:16:42 -0400, DianeE <DianeE@NoSpam.net> wrote:

>----------
>John Lydon, of Sex Pistols "God Save The Queen" fame, said "May she rest
>in peace" and stated that he has nothing against any member of the royal
>family, just the institution of monarchy. But from what I've been
>hearing, he (and Roger) are in the minority. The majority of Brits want
>it to continue. Their grief is real.
>I saw Jamaicans being interviewed, saying "She was our Queen and we
>loved her." Don't know if that was a majority opinion.
>My point is...millions of people give a shit. They loved and admired her.
>Another thing you don't take into consideration is what she meant to
>girls and women. Stevie Nicks said something about how she was
>surrounded by powerful men and let them know, with grace and dignity,
>that she was the Queen...and you're not.

Well said, Diane.

I didn't know Roger was a Republican; in fact, after reading many of
his remarks in posts here I thought he was a Royalist. If Bruce and
yourself are correct then Roger was being notoriously facetious.

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On Sep 9, 2022 at 7:19:46 PM CDT, "Bruce" <SavoyBG@aol.com> wrote:

> On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 8:16:44 PM UTC-4, DianeE wrote:
>> On 9/9/2022 10:24 AM, Bruce wrote:
>>> Don't know how Roger feels about this, but I think I remember him once
>>> saying that he was a UK Republican who wanted the monarchy to be abolished.
>>>
>>> Over 183,000 people die everyday around the world, but I'm supposed to care
>>> about the death of some ridiculously privileged woman who made it to 96
>>> years old?
>>>
>>> I have much more respect for a regular woman who struggles with a moderate
>>> income taking care of a family than I do for some Lucky Sperm Club member
>>> born into wealth who never had to worry about anything all that serious in
>>> her whole life. Her biggest worry is whether or not her longass white gloves
>>> fit correctly.
>>>
>>> Thoughts anyone?
>>>
>> ----------
>> John Lydon, of Sex Pistols "God Save The Queen" fame, said "May she rest
>> in peace" and stated that he has nothing against any member of the royal
>> family, just the institution of monarchy. But from what I've been
>> hearing, he (and Roger) are in the minority. The majority of Brits want
>> it to continue. Their grief is real.
>> I saw Jamaicans being interviewed, saying "She was our Queen and we
>> loved her." Don't know if that was a majority opinion.
>> My point is...millions of people give a shit. They loved and admired her.
>> Another thing you don't take into consideration is what she meant to
>> girls and women. Stevie Nicks said something about how she was
>> surrounded by powerful men and let them know, with grace and dignity,
>> that she was the Queen...and you're not.
>
> But being the queen in the modern world does not hold any real power. You're
> just a figurehead for tourism. The queen can't change any laws, or dole out
> any funds.

And that's exactly why she served a purpose. In the US the president is both
the chief executive and the head of state. In Britain the two roles are
separate, the prime minister as chief executive and the queen (or now the
king) as the head of state. Thus, aside from the prime minister being spared
all the state dinners and symbolic functions of head of state, he (or rather
she at the moment) can't claim, as presidents sometimes do, that if you
despise them you're somehow are despising the nation as a whole. The queen
understood that distinction and can be honored for scrupulously staying above
politics and for creating a more or less idealized image of what Great Britain
is.

--md

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On Sep 9, 2022 at 7:52:31 PM CDT, "Dennis C from Tennessee"
<dennisrowan1@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 8:19:47 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>> On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 8:16:44 PM UTC-4, DianeE wrote:
>>> On 9/9/2022 10:24 AM, Bruce wrote:
>>>> Don't know how Roger feels about this, but I think I remember him once
>>>> saying that he was a UK Republican who wanted the monarchy to be abolished.
>>>>
>>>> Over 183,000 people die everyday around the world, but I'm supposed to care
>>>> about the death of some ridiculously privileged woman who made it to 96
>>>> years old?
>>>>
>>>> I have much more respect for a regular woman who struggles with a moderate
>>>> income taking care of a family than I do for some Lucky Sperm Club member
>>>> born into wealth who never had to worry about anything all that serious in
>>>> her whole life. Her biggest worry is whether or not her longass white
>>>> gloves fit correctly.
>>>>
>>>> Thoughts anyone?
>>>>
>>> ----------
>>> John Lydon, of Sex Pistols "God Save The Queen" fame, said "May she rest
>>> in peace" and stated that he has nothing against any member of the royal
>>> family, just the institution of monarchy. But from what I've been
>>> hearing, he (and Roger) are in the minority. The majority of Brits want
>>> it to continue. Their grief is real.
>>> I saw Jamaicans being interviewed, saying "She was our Queen and we
>>> loved her." Don't know if that was a majority opinion.
>>> My point is...millions of people give a shit. They loved and admired her.
>>> Another thing you don't take into consideration is what she meant to
>>> girls and women. Stevie Nicks said something about how she was
>>> surrounded by powerful men and let them know, with grace and dignity,
>>> that she was the Queen...and you're not.
>> But being the queen in the modern world does not hold any real power. You're
>> just a figurehead for tourism. The queen can't change any laws, or dole out
>> any funds.
>
> The queen can't change any laws, or dole out any funds.
>
> The ideal leader of a repreaentative government, baby!!

As I just pointed out to Bruce, she is not at all the leader of the
government, but of the state, which is a different thing.

--md

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On Fri, 9 Sep 2022 07:44:22 -0700 (PDT), Dennis C from Tennessee
<dennisrowan1@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 10:33:20 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:

>> WHY are you even watching, and who the fuck is Consort Camilla?
>
>Calm down old boy!!
>
>You're sounding like a typical class-conscious commoner!!

Bruce's condition is far, far worse than that.

Tens of millions of working-class Brits, who apparently admired
the Queen, are I'm sure very class-conscious.

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On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 10:50:26 PM UTC-4, Mark D. wrote:
> On Sep 9, 2022 at 7:52:31 PM CDT, "Dennis C from Tennessee"
> <dennis...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 8:19:47 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> >> On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 8:16:44 PM UTC-4, DianeE wrote:
> >>> On 9/9/2022 10:24 AM, Bruce wrote:
> >>>> Don't know how Roger feels about this, but I think I remember him once
> >>>> saying that he was a UK Republican who wanted the monarchy to be abolished.
> >>>>
> >>>> Over 183,000 people die everyday around the world, but I'm supposed to care
> >>>> about the death of some ridiculously privileged woman who made it to 96
> >>>> years old?
> >>>>
> >>>> I have much more respect for a regular woman who struggles with a moderate
> >>>> income taking care of a family than I do for some Lucky Sperm Club member
> >>>> born into wealth who never had to worry about anything all that serious in
> >>>> her whole life. Her biggest worry is whether or not her longass white
> >>>> gloves fit correctly.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thoughts anyone?
> >>>>
> >>> ----------
> >>> John Lydon, of Sex Pistols "God Save The Queen" fame, said "May she rest
> >>> in peace" and stated that he has nothing against any member of the royal
> >>> family, just the institution of monarchy. But from what I've been
> >>> hearing, he (and Roger) are in the minority. The majority of Brits want
> >>> it to continue. Their grief is real.
> >>> I saw Jamaicans being interviewed, saying "She was our Queen and we
> >>> loved her." Don't know if that was a majority opinion.
> >>> My point is...millions of people give a shit. They loved and admired her.
> >>> Another thing you don't take into consideration is what she meant to
> >>> girls and women. Stevie Nicks said something about how she was
> >>> surrounded by powerful men and let them know, with grace and dignity,
> >>> that she was the Queen...and you're not.
> >> But being the queen in the modern world does not hold any real power. You're
> >> just a figurehead for tourism. The queen can't change any laws, or dole out
> >> any funds.
> >
> > The queen can't change any laws, or dole out any funds.
> >
> > The ideal leader of a repreaentative government, baby!!
> As I just pointed out to Bruce, she is not at all the leader of the
> government, but of the state, which is a different thing.

But carries no power at all. She's just a figurehead. A ceremonial hostess, much like the First Lady of the USA.

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 by: Dean F. - Sat, 10 Sep 2022 04:04 UTC

I don't understand why so many Americans give a shit about the British Royal Family. We threw England out of here 246 years ago!

I also get a charge of out those people wjp claim, "Gender is a social construct," while fawning over the British Royal Family. As if royalty were NOT a social construct.

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 by: Roger Ford - Sat, 10 Sep 2022 04:49 UTC

On Fri, 9 Sep 2022 20:16:42 -0400, DianeE <DianeE@NoSpam.net> wrote:

>On 9/9/2022 10:24 AM, Bruce wrote:
>> Don't know how Roger feels about this, but I think I remember him once saying that he was a UK Republican who wanted the monarchy to be abolished.
>>
>> Over 183,000 people die everyday around the world, but I'm supposed to care about the death of some ridiculously privileged woman who made it to 96 years old?
>>
>> I have much more respect for a regular woman who struggles with a moderate income taking care of a family than I do for some Lucky Sperm Club member born into wealth who never had to worry about anything all that serious in her whole life. Her biggest worry is whether or not her longass white gloves fit correctly.
>>
>> Thoughts anyone?
>>
>----------
>John Lydon, of Sex Pistols "God Save The Queen" fame, said "May she rest
>in peace" and stated that he has nothing against any member of the royal
>family, just the institution of monarchy. But from what I've been
>hearing, he (and Roger) are in the minority. The majority of Brits want
>it to continue. Their grief is real.
>I saw Jamaicans being interviewed, saying "She was our Queen and we
>loved her." Don't know if that was a majority opinion.
>My point is...millions of people give a shit. They loved and admired her.
>Another thing you don't take into consideration is what she meant to
>girls and women. Stevie Nicks said something about how she was
>surrounded by powerful men and let them know, with grace and dignity,
>that she was the Queen...and you're not.

"My point is...millions of people give a shit"

I've avoided this thread up to now for what should be pretty obvious
reasons but you've brilliantly summed up the whole thing here.

And for the record here are my feelings about the monarchy as outlined
to Bob Roman in an exchange here some years ago. They remain the same

>>> And I say that as a life long republican (with a small "r") who has
>>> always had misgivings about dynastic monarchy and favored an elected
>>> President---until realizing who some of those Presidents might be
>>> (President Blair anyone? President Brown?) and also looking at several
>>> of the lamer characters who have managed to become US
>>> President---after which a monarch-by-birth doesn't seem such a bad
>>> idea..

ROGER FORD
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 by: Roger Ford - Sat, 10 Sep 2022 04:54 UTC

On Fri, 9 Sep 2022 21:04:47 -0700 (PDT), "Dean F."
<soulexpress@gmail.com> wrote:

>I don't understand why so many Americans give a shit about the British Royal Family. We threw England out of here 246 years ago!
>
Bad mistake!

If you'd stayed like good little boys and girls you too could be
enjoying the benefits of current British life which include sky high
shop prices,petrol costing double what it does in NYC and paying for a
fucking licence to watch TV on pain of going to jail

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 by: Bruce - Sat, 10 Sep 2022 04:57 UTC

On Saturday, September 10, 2022 at 12:54:40 AM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
> On Fri, 9 Sep 2022 21:04:47 -0700 (PDT), "Dean F."
> <soule...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >I don't understand why so many Americans give a shit about the British Royal Family. We threw England out of here 246 years ago!
> >
> Bad mistake!
>
> If you'd stayed like good little boys and girls you too could be
> enjoying the benefits of current British life which include sky high
> shop prices,petrol costing double what it does in NYC and paying for a
> fucking licence to watch TV on pain of going to jail

Gas here is almost down to what it was before the inflation started. It's like $3.59 a gallon, maybe even a little less.

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 by: Bruce - Sat, 10 Sep 2022 05:10 UTC

On Saturday, September 10, 2022 at 12:49:53 AM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
> On Fri, 9 Sep 2022 20:16:42 -0400, DianeE <Dia...@NoSpam.net> wrote:
> >On 9/9/2022 10:24 AM, Bruce wrote:
> >> Don't know how Roger feels about this, but I think I remember him once saying that he was a UK Republican who wanted the monarchy to be abolished..
> >>
> >> Over 183,000 people die everyday around the world, but I'm supposed to care about the death of some ridiculously privileged woman who made it to 96 years old?
> >>
> >> I have much more respect for a regular woman who struggles with a moderate income taking care of a family than I do for some Lucky Sperm Club member born into wealth who never had to worry about anything all that serious in her whole life. Her biggest worry is whether or not her longass white gloves fit correctly.
> >>
> >> Thoughts anyone?
> >>
> >----------
> >John Lydon, of Sex Pistols "God Save The Queen" fame, said "May she rest
> >in peace" and stated that he has nothing against any member of the royal
> >family, just the institution of monarchy. But from what I've been
> >hearing, he (and Roger) are in the minority. The majority of Brits want
> >it to continue. Their grief is real.
> >I saw Jamaicans being interviewed, saying "She was our Queen and we
> >loved her." Don't know if that was a majority opinion.
> >My point is...millions of people give a shit. They loved and admired her..
> >Another thing you don't take into consideration is what she meant to
> >girls and women. Stevie Nicks said something about how she was
> >surrounded by powerful men and let them know, with grace and dignity,
> >that she was the Queen...and you're not.
>
> "My point is...millions of people give a shit"

I wouldn't argue against that, but millions of people also care about the Kardashians and about professional video game players, and lots of other inane things.

If you care about the Queen dying I suggest you stay away from Bill Maher's monologue from tonight. It was mainly jokes about the queen dying.

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