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On Wednesday, November 15, 2017 at 12:42:22 AM UTC-8, dan....@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 14, 2017 at 10:59:51 PM UTC-8, Herman wrote:
> > On Tuesday, November 14, 2017 at 10:54:37 PM UTC+1, Frank Berger wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I defer to your expertise, though there is a difference
> > > between drinking (even a lot) and alcoholism, which was the
> > > original question.
> >
> > Frank's question was totally legit. A lot of
> > these stories about conductors and soloists
> > are made up, handed down dozens of times over
> > and embellished.
> >
> > Saying 'but these people are Russians!' is
> > just about the worst stereotype.
> >
> > A lot of names mentioned here were not Russian.
> You have clearly not lived in Eastern Europe.
> There are vast swaths of land were alcoholism
> is endemic. Stop lecturing about political
> correctness and reconnect with reality.
>
> dk

(Youtube upload):

Russia's Alcohol Problem

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 by: gggg gggg - Mon, 3 Apr 2023 17:13 UTC

On Sunday, August 8, 2021 at 10:23:24 PM UTC-7, gggg gggg wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 15, 2017 at 12:42:22 AM UTC-8, dan....@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Tuesday, November 14, 2017 at 10:59:51 PM UTC-8, Herman wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, November 14, 2017 at 10:54:37 PM UTC+1, Frank Berger wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I defer to your expertise, though there is a difference
> > > > between drinking (even a lot) and alcoholism, which was the
> > > > original question.
> > >
> > > Frank's question was totally legit. A lot of
> > > these stories about conductors and soloists
> > > are made up, handed down dozens of times over
> > > and embellished.
> > >
> > > Saying 'but these people are Russians!' is
> > > just about the worst stereotype.
> > >
> > > A lot of names mentioned here were not Russian.
> > You have clearly not lived in Eastern Europe.
> > There are vast swaths of land were alcoholism
> > is endemic. Stop lecturing about political
> > correctness and reconnect with reality.
> >
> > dk
> (Youtube upload):
>
> Russia's Alcohol Problem

https://news.yahoo.com/russian-troops-dying-ukraine-due-131153932.html

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