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Group 2 is now open.

You Don't Love Me - Willie Cobbs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1uF1S7-Hz4

I'm So High - Five Keys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MxB4GptLH4

Born Lover - Muddy Waters
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQCHPb9S_ig

Oh Why - Little Richard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDwRMdk_0X0

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MY RANKINGS

1. Born Lover - Muddy Waters
2. You Don't Love Me - Willie Cobbs
3. Oh Why - Little Richard
4. I'm So High - Five Keys

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On Mon, 19 Sep 2022 21:15:55 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <SavoyBG@aol.com>
wrote:

>Group 2 is now open.
>
>
You Don't Love Me - Willie Cobbs
Born Lover - Muddy Waters>
Oh Why - Little Richard
I'm So High - Five Keys

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On Monday, September 19, 2022 at 9:15:56 PM UTC-7, Bruce wrote:
> Group 2 is now open.
>

1. You Don't Love Me - Willie Cobbs
2. I'm So High - Five Keys
3. Oh Why - Little Richard
4. Born Lover - Muddy Waters

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On Mon, 19 Sep 2022 21:15:55 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <SavoyBG@aol.com> wrote:

>Group 2 is now open.

1. I'm So High - Five Keys
2. Oh Why - Little Richard
3. You Don't Love Me - Willie Cobbs
4. Born Lover - Muddy Waters

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> 1. I'm So High - Five Keys
> 2. Oh Why - Little Richard
> 3. You Don't Love Me - Willie Cobbs
> 4. Born Lover - Muddy Waters

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1-Born Lover - Muddy Waters
2-You Don't Love Me - Willie Cobbs
3-I'm So High - Five Keys

4-Oh Why - Little Richard

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 by: Mark D. - Tue, 20 Sep 2022 13:34 UTC

On Sep 19, 2022 at 11:15:55 PM CDT, "Bruce" <SavoyBG@aol.com> wrote:

> Group 2 is now open.

Oh Why - Little Richard
I'm So High - Five Keys
You Don't Love Me - Willie Cobbs
Born Lover - Muddy Waters

--md

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1. I'm So High - Five Keys

2. Oh Why - Little Richard

3. You Don't Love Me - Willie Cobbs

4. Born Lover - Muddy Waters

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Subject: Re: Obscure 1950s Era Recordings - September 2022 - Round 2 - Group 2
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1- Willie Cobbs

2- Little Richard

3- The Five Keys

4- Muddy Waters

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FINAL RANKINGS - same as Carl.

1. You Don't Love Me - Willie Cobbs - 29
2. I'm So High - Five Keys - 28

3. Oh Why - Little Richard - 25
4. Born Lover - Muddy Waters - 18

Roger and Jim have joined Bruce and Steve with an item in the ELITE EIGHT.

Roger Cobbs with a one point win over the Five Jims who were second. Little Markie was 3 points back in third place, and thus is out. Muddy Muller was
way back in last place as it was ranked last on 7 of the 10 ballots.

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On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 1:07:52 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> FINAL RANKINGS - same as Carl.
>
>
> 1. You Don't Love Me - Willie Cobbs - 29
> 2. I'm So High - Five Keys - 28
>
> 3. Oh Why - Little Richard - 25
> 4. Born Lover - Muddy Waters - 18
>
> Roger and Jim have joined Bruce and Steve with an item in the ELITE EIGHT.
>
> Roger Cobbs with a one point win over the Five Jims who were second. Little Markie was 3 points back in third place, and thus is out. Muddy Muller was
> way back in last place as it was ranked last on 7 of the 10 ballots.

The Cobbs' record is a good 'un but I've had to invoke the Billy Bugge rule and deduct a full point!!

I suppose somebody told Cobbs he couldn't do Diddley........so he did......and so gets a point deducted, baby!!

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On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 1:18:59 PM UTC-4, Dennis C from Tennessee wrote:

> The Cobbs' record is a good 'un but I've had to invoke the Billy Bugge rule and deduct a full point!!
>
> I suppose somebody told Cobbs he couldn't do Diddley........so he did......and so gets a point deducted, baby!!

What rule is that? Even if he sounded like Bo Diddley, which I don't hear, I wouldn't deduct anything in judging its merits.

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On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 2:32:06 PM UTC-4, bb...@optonline.net wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 1:18:59 PM UTC-4, Dennis C from Tennessee wrote:
>
> > The Cobbs' record is a good 'un but I've had to invoke the Billy Bugge rule and deduct a full point!!
> >
> > I suppose somebody told Cobbs he couldn't do Diddley........so he did......and so gets a point deducted, baby!!

> What rule is that? Even if he sounded like Bo Diddley, which I don't hear, I wouldn't deduct anything in judging its merits.

It's similar to a Bo Diddley song with the same title.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilcx9P4RAC0

Here's another problem with your derivative deduction. Unless you are familiar with the record being copied, there's no deduction. I'll bet there's lots of things that you love but don't even realize they are derivative.

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On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 3:30:15 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 2:32:06 PM UTC-4, bb...@optonline.net wrote:
> > On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 1:18:59 PM UTC-4, Dennis C from Tennessee wrote:
> >
> > > The Cobbs' record is a good 'un but I've had to invoke the Billy Bugge rule and deduct a full point!!
> > >
> > > I suppose somebody told Cobbs he couldn't do Diddley........so he did......and so gets a point deducted, baby!!
>
> > What rule is that? Even if he sounded like Bo Diddley, which I don't hear, I wouldn't deduct anything in judging its merits.
> It's similar to a Bo Diddley song with the same title.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilcx9P4RAC0
>
> Here's another problem with your derivative deduction. Unless you are familiar with the record being copied, there's no deduction. I'll bet there's lots of things that you love but don't even realize they are derivative.

I'll bet there's lots of things that you love but don't even realize they are derivative.
And you'd win that bet brotha!!!

It's a good thing I keep you around to let me know these things!!

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On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 3:30:15 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:

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> Here's another problem with your derivative deduction. Unless you are familiar with the record being copied, there's no deduction. I'll bet there's lots of things that you love but don't even realize they are derivative.

And there's lots of things I haven't even heard that I would vote for if I had heard them. I can only deal with what I know.

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>On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 1:18:59 PM UTC-4, Dennis C from Tennessee wrote:
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>> The Cobbs' record is a good 'un but I've had to invoke the Billy Bugge rule and deduct a full point!!
>>
>> I suppose somebody told Cobbs he couldn't do Diddley........so he did......and so gets a point deducted, baby!!
>
>What rule is that? Even if he sounded like Bo Diddley, which I don't hear, I wouldn't deduct anything in judging its merits.

Liste close to "She's Fine, She's Mine"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhEL45dJjrY

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On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 4:48:41 PM UTC-4, Jim Colegrove wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Sep 2022 11:32:05 -0700 (PDT), Bill B <bb...@optonline.net>
> wrote:
> >On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 1:18:59 PM UTC-4, Dennis C from Tennessee wrote:
> >
> >> The Cobbs' record is a good 'un but I've had to invoke the Billy Bugge rule and deduct a full point!!
> >>
> >> I suppose somebody told Cobbs he couldn't do Diddley........so he did......and so gets a point deducted, baby!!
> >
> >What rule is that? Even if he sounded like Bo Diddley, which I don't hear, I wouldn't deduct anything in judging its merits.
> Liste close to "She's Fine, She's Mine"
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhEL45dJjrY

Yes, that's the one. So Bill, I guess the Cobbs gets a deduction now that you have heard "She's Fine, She's Mine" and "You Don't Love Me" by Bo?

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On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 4:55:36 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 4:48:41 PM UTC-4, Jim Colegrove wrote:
> > On Tue, 20 Sep 2022 11:32:05 -0700 (PDT), Bill B <bb..>
> > wrote:
> > >On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 1:18:59 PM UTC-4, Dennis C from Tennessee wrote:
> > >
> > >> The Cobbs' record is a good 'un but I've had to invoke the Billy Bugge rule and deduct a full point!!
> > >>
> > >> I suppose somebody told Cobbs he couldn't do Diddley........so he did......and so gets a point deducted, baby!!
> > >
> > >What rule is that? Even if he sounded like Bo Diddley, which I don't hear, I wouldn't deduct anything in judging its merits.
> > Liste close to "She's Fine, She's Mine"
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhEL45dJjrY
> Yes, that's the one. So Bill, I guess the Cobbs gets a deduction now that you have heard "She's Fine, She's Mine" and "You Don't Love Me" by Bo?

If I were voting today, I might (might) consider it a little lower based on "She's Fine, She's Mine," but not based on "You Don't Love Me." It would depend on my mood at the time. Any deduction would be minimal and probably not affect the results. The similarities would have to be more egregious to do so.

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 by: DianeE - Tue, 20 Sep 2022 21:19 UTC

On 9/20/2022 4:48 PM, Jim Colegrove wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Sep 2022 11:32:05 -0700 (PDT), Bill B <bbug2@optonline.net>
> wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 1:18:59 PM UTC-4, Dennis C from Tennessee wrote:
>>
>>> The Cobbs' record is a good 'un but I've had to invoke the Billy Bugge rule and deduct a full point!!
>>>
>>> I suppose somebody told Cobbs he couldn't do Diddley........so he did......and so gets a point deducted, baby!!
>>
>> What rule is that? Even if he sounded like Bo Diddley, which I don't hear, I wouldn't deduct anything in judging its merits.
>
> Liste close to "She's Fine, She's Mine"
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhEL45dJjrY
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I always thought "She's Fine She's Mine" was Bo Diddley trying to sound
like Muddy Waters. I think this was his first record.

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 by: Dennis C from Tennes - Tue, 20 Sep 2022 21:32 UTC

On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 5:19:17 PM UTC-4, DianeE wrote:
> On 9/20/2022 4:48 PM, Jim Colegrove wrote:
> > On Tue, 20 Sep 2022 11:32:05 -0700 (PDT), Bill B <bb...@optonline.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 1:18:59 PM UTC-4, Dennis C from Tennessee wrote:
> >>
> >>> The Cobbs' record is a good 'un but I've had to invoke the Billy Bugge rule and deduct a full point!!
> >>>
> >>> I suppose somebody told Cobbs he couldn't do Diddley........so he did......and so gets a point deducted, baby!!
> >>
> >> What rule is that? Even if he sounded like Bo Diddley, which I don't hear, I wouldn't deduct anything in judging its merits.
> >
> > Liste close to "She's Fine, She's Mine"
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhEL45dJjrY
> ---------
> I always thought "She's Fine She's Mine" was Bo Diddley trying to sound
> like Muddy Waters. I think this was his first record.

"She's Fine She's Mine" was the one I was refering to as the Cobbs' rip-off!!

It was mentioned in the comments on Bruce's YouTube link.

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On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 5:19:17 PM UTC-4, DianeE wrote:
> On 9/20/2022 4:48 PM, Jim Colegrove wrote:
> > On Tue, 20 Sep 2022 11:32:05 -0700 (PDT), Bill B <bb...@optonline.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 1:18:59 PM UTC-4, Dennis C from Tennessee wrote:
> >>
> >>> The Cobbs' record is a good 'un but I've had to invoke the Billy Bugge rule and deduct a full point!!
> >>>
> >>> I suppose somebody told Cobbs he couldn't do Diddley........so he did......and so gets a point deducted, baby!!
> >>
> >> What rule is that? Even if he sounded like Bo Diddley, which I don't hear, I wouldn't deduct anything in judging its merits.
> >
> > Liste close to "She's Fine, She's Mine"
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhEL45dJjrY
> ---------
> I always thought "She's Fine She's Mine" was Bo Diddley trying to sound
> like Muddy Waters. I think this was his first record.

Do you mean his first recording?

It's certainly not his first record. It's one of the 3 masters that came from his first session on March 2, 1955, along with both sides of his first single.

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On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 5:13:23 PM UTC-4, bb...@optonline.net wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 4:55:36 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> > On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 4:48:41 PM UTC-4, Jim Colegrove wrote:
> > > On Tue, 20 Sep 2022 11:32:05 -0700 (PDT), Bill B <bb..>
> > > wrote:
> > > >On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 1:18:59 PM UTC-4, Dennis C from Tennessee wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> The Cobbs' record is a good 'un but I've had to invoke the Billy Bugge rule and deduct a full point!!
> > > >>
> > > >> I suppose somebody told Cobbs he couldn't do Diddley........so he did......and so gets a point deducted, baby!!
> > > >
> > > >What rule is that? Even if he sounded like Bo Diddley, which I don't hear, I wouldn't deduct anything in judging its merits.
> > > Liste close to "She's Fine, She's Mine"
> > >
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhEL45dJjrY
> > Yes, that's the one. So Bill, I guess the Cobbs gets a deduction now that you have heard "She's Fine, She's Mine" and "You Don't Love Me" by Bo?'

> If I were voting today, I might (might) consider it a little lower based on "She's Fine, She's Mine," but not based on "You Don't Love Me." It would depend on my mood at the time.

Huh? Are you saying that "your mood" determines whether or not a record receives a deduction for being derivative?

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 by: Dennis C from Tennes - Tue, 20 Sep 2022 23:19 UTC

On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 5:43:53 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 5:13:23 PM UTC-4, bb...@optonline.net wrote:
> > On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 4:55:36 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 4:48:41 PM UTC-4, Jim Colegrove wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 20 Sep 2022 11:32:05 -0700 (PDT), Bill B <bb..>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 1:18:59 PM UTC-4, Dennis C from Tennessee wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> The Cobbs' record is a good 'un but I've had to invoke the Billy Bugge rule and deduct a full point!!
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I suppose somebody told Cobbs he couldn't do Diddley........so he did......and so gets a point deducted, baby!!
> > > > >
> > > > >What rule is that? Even if he sounded like Bo Diddley, which I don't hear, I wouldn't deduct anything in judging its merits.
> > > > Liste close to "She's Fine, She's Mine"
> > > >
> > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhEL45dJjrY
> > > Yes, that's the one. So Bill, I guess the Cobbs gets a deduction now that you have heard "She's Fine, She's Mine" and "You Don't Love Me" by Bo?'
>
> > If I were voting today, I might (might) consider it a little lower based on "She's Fine, She's Mine," but not based on "You Don't Love Me." It would depend on my mood at the time.
> Huh? Are you saying that "your mood" determines whether or not a record receives a deduction for being derivative?

Huh? Are you saying that "your mood" determines whether or not a record receives a deduction for being derivative?

You're on your own with that one, Billy baby!!!

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On 9/20/2022 5:42 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 5:19:17 PM UTC-4, DianeE wrote:
>> On 9/20/2022 4:48 PM, Jim Colegrove wrote:
>>> On Tue, 20 Sep 2022 11:32:05 -0700 (PDT), Bill B <bb...@optonline.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 1:18:59 PM UTC-4, Dennis C from Tennessee wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The Cobbs' record is a good 'un but I've had to invoke the Billy Bugge rule and deduct a full point!!
>>>>>
>>>>> I suppose somebody told Cobbs he couldn't do Diddley........so he did......and so gets a point deducted, baby!!
>>>>
>>>> What rule is that? Even if he sounded like Bo Diddley, which I don't hear, I wouldn't deduct anything in judging its merits.
>>>
>>> Liste close to "She's Fine, She's Mine"
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhEL45dJjrY
>> ---------
>> I always thought "She's Fine She's Mine" was Bo Diddley trying to sound
>> like Muddy Waters. I think this was his first record.
>
> Do you mean his first recording?
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Yes.
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>
> It's certainly not his first record. It's one of the 3 masters that came from his first session on March 2, 1955, along with both sides of his first single.

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