"Disneyfication" or "Russellfication"?
Why Doctor Who Isn't Being Changed by Disney
--------------------------------------------
There's been a lot of speculation about whether Disney is
changing Doctor Who. The BBC sold the streaming rights for
new Doctor Who to Disney, so while the BBC broadcasts the
show in the UK, Disney is streaming it everywhere else.

From the outset, the main concern was that the House of
Mouse would stick its venomous, corporate teeth into the
program, take control away from the Beeb, enslave
Russell T Davies in their basement, and force him to
squeeze out Who scripts under the watchful eyes of the
frozen, disembodied head of Walt Disney himself. 

Not quite.

You see, the Sony Corporation, who has a friendly
relationship with Disney, owns Bad Wolf Studio, who has a
friendly relationship with the BBC, and employs Russell.
So this hook up was somewhat natural. An alliance that
benefits everyone. 

RTD has total creative control of Doctor Who, but the show
is owned by the BBC, so they're allowed to have input.
Russell works for Bad Wolf and thus Sony, so they, too,
have input. Disney owns nothing but the streaming rights
for the show, but since it's streaming on their platform,
they have the right to have input as well. Here's where
the worry and fear pops up. Constantly.

The fear that somehow, Disney controls everything, and
strong arms everything to their liking. 

Not so. It's very likely they have the same amount of
input as Bad Wolf and the Beeb. Maybe a bit less since
the Beeb owns the property.

So, if you're worried about the Mouse making Who all
"Disney-ish", have no fear. Disney won't be doing that.

If it happens, Russell will be the one who's doing it.

In a recent interview in SFX magazine (and shared via
Games Radar), executive producer Joel Collins refuted the
"Disneyfication" claim, saying "that would only happen if
it wasn't being made by Russell. Or by somebody who wasn't
as big a fan as Russell."

But an important point - Russell is a fan of a lot of the
work Disney's Pixar has produced and that might be part of
what we're seeing. Collins explains that RTD has been
inspired by some of Disney's output:

"Russell wanted to bring fun to it, he just wanted
to bring joy into the show and challenge people
in all the right ways that Russell does. But also
make it fun at the right points, make it really
fun, take you on a ride. So, I think that's where
the barrier to entry is removed, because adults
and children alike enjoy that. And it's not like,
'Oh, it's just for kids,' or 'It's just for adults'
or any of this stuff."

It might just be semantics, but even though Disney's not
injecting itself into the programme, Russell is bringing a
Disney flavour to the show and shall probably continue to
do so. The comments he's made about adding more fantasy
into the show going forward lends itself to this.

Another possible factor is Bigger Audience Syndrome. 

When preparing to accommodate an exponentially larger
audience, it sometimes affects how the creator approaches
the production of their series.

It's at this point I have to cite a few entertainment
examples from American late night television. 

Jay Leno was once the most popular and acclaimed stand up
comic in the country, revered by all his peers. His act was
edgy but he wasn't foul mouthed or dirty, and mostly
suitable for all audiences. But when he was controversially
given The Tonight Show, he severely watered down his content
to homogenize his jokes so grandmothers across the country
would like and accept him. This dumbed down, bland approach
worked and he received good ratings.

When David Letterman moved from the Late Night slot at NBC
to the hour earlier Late Show on CBS, he felt he had to be
a bit more responsible with his content, not just playing
for the college crowd. So he toned down his material as
well, just not anywhere nearly as bland as Leno.

The point is, the much larger audience might be factored in
to these new approaches to the writing, the creative in
general. Whether that's a good or bad thing in Who's
situation remains to be seen.

The prevailing thought is that Doctor Who has now gone from
just the UK to worldwide status thanks to Disney, so one can
only wonder how much this bigger stage will affect how Davies
moves forward with the show. 

Although, considering that over the past six decades, Who has
been sold and distributed to dozens of countries, and the
50th anniversary special was simultaneously broadcast in
91 countries, there's no question that the world is well a
ware of Doctor Who. Or should be anyway.

Yet somehow, it being streamed through Disney+ has it
allegedly reaching an even bigger audience. 

By all accounts, going forward with "Season 1" (Series 1/
Series 14/Season 40 - your choice), we are going to see this
new direction incorporating more fantasy along with our
science fiction, as it streams worldwide. 

And it is slated to be lighter and have "more fun and joy"
thrown into it, and it might indeed feel more like Disney in
some ways. But let's be clear for the record - the main force
behind that is not going be Disney.

That will be Russell T Davies.

<https://thedoctorwhocompanion.com/2024/02/04/disneyfication-or-russellfication-why-doctor-who-isnt-being-changed-by-disney/>

On 2024-02-04 04:52:55 +0000, Your Name said:

> "Disneyfication" or "Russellfication"?
> Why Doctor Who Isn't Being Changed by Disney
> --------------------------------------------
> There's been a lot of speculation about whether Disney is
> changing Doctor Who. The BBC sold the streaming rights for
> new Doctor Who to Disney, so while the BBC broadcasts the
> show in the UK, Disney is streaming it everywhere else.
>
<snip>
>
>
> <https://thedoctorwhocompanion.com/2024/02/04/disneyfication-or-russellfication-why-doctor-who-isnt-being-changed-by-disney/>
>

Disney is providing a large pile of money, so of course they have some
degree of control. If they don't like what's happening, they'll simply
pull their money out. RTD and the BBC both know this, so they will do
almost anything to keep Disney happy.

Hypothetically, what happens if estate of Terry Nation objects to
transvesite Daleks reading books to children?

In article <upn577$3h9t2$1@dont-email.me>,
Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>
> "Disneyfication" or "Russellfication"?
> Why Doctor Who Isn't Being Changed by Disney
> --------------------------------------------
> There's been a lot of speculation about whether Disney is
> changing Doctor Who. The BBC sold the streaming rights for
> new Doctor Who to Disney, so while the BBC broadcasts the
> show in the UK, Disney is streaming it everywhere else.
>
> From the outset, the main concern was that the House of
> Mouse would stick its venomous, corporate teeth into the
> program, take control away from the Beeb, enslave
> Russell T Davies in their basement, and force him to
> squeeze out Who scripts under the watchful eyes of the
> frozen, disembodied head of Walt Disney himself.�
>
> Not quite.
>
> You see, the Sony Corporation, who has a friendly
> relationship with Disney, owns Bad Wolf Studio, who has a
> friendly relationship with the BBC, and employs Russell.
> So this hook up was somewhat natural. An alliance that
> benefits everyone.�
>
> RTD has total creative control of Doctor Who, but the show
> is owned by the BBC, so they're allowed to have input.
> Russell works for Bad Wolf and thus Sony, so they, too,
> have input. Disney owns nothing but the streaming rights
> for the show, but since it's streaming on their platform,
> they have the right to have input as well. Here's where
> the worry and fear pops up. Constantly.
>
> The fear that somehow, Disney controls everything, and
> strong arms everything to their liking.�
>
> Not so. It's very likely they have the same amount of
> input as Bad Wolf and the Beeb. Maybe a bit less since
> the Beeb owns the property.
>
> So, if you're worried about the Mouse making Who all
> "Disney-ish", have no fear. Disney won't be doing that.
>
> If it happens, Russell will be the one who's doing it.
>
> In a recent interview in SFX magazine (and shared via
> Games Radar), executive producer Joel Collins refuted the
> "Disneyfication" claim, saying "that would only happen if
> it wasn't being made by Russell. Or by somebody who wasn't
> as big a fan as Russell."
>
> But an important point - Russell is a fan of a lot of the
> work Disney's Pixar has produced and that might be part of
> what we're seeing. Collins explains that RTD has been
> inspired by some of Disney's output:
>
> "Russell wanted to bring fun to it, he just wanted
> to bring joy into the show and challenge people
> in all the right ways that Russell does. But also
> make it fun at the right points, make it really
> fun, take you on a ride. So, I think that's where
> the barrier to entry is removed, because adults
> and children alike enjoy that. And it's not like,
> 'Oh, it's just for kids,' or 'It's just for adults'
> or any of this stuff."
>
> It might just be semantics, but even though Disney's not
> injecting itself into the programme, Russell is bringing a
> Disney flavour to the show and shall probably continue to
> do so. The comments he's made about adding more fantasy
> into the show going forward lends itself to this.
>
> Another possible factor is Bigger Audience Syndrome.�
>
> When preparing to accommodate an exponentially larger
> audience, it sometimes affects how the creator approaches
> the production of their series.
>
> It's at this point I have to cite a few entertainment
> examples from American late night television.�
>
> Jay Leno was once the most popular and acclaimed stand up
> comic in the country, revered by all his peers. His act was
> edgy but he wasn't foul mouthed or dirty, and mostly
> suitable for all audiences. But when he was controversially
> given The Tonight Show, he severely watered down his content
> to homogenize his jokes so grandmothers across the country
> would like and accept him. This dumbed down, bland approach
> worked and he received good ratings.
>
> When David Letterman moved from the Late Night slot at NBC
> to the hour earlier Late Show on CBS, he felt he had to be
> a bit more responsible with his content, not just playing
> for the college crowd. So he toned down his material as
> well, just not anywhere nearly as bland as Leno.
>
> The point is, the much larger audience might be factored in
> to these new approaches to the writing, the creative in
> general. Whether that's a good or bad thing in Who's
> situation remains to be seen.
>
> The prevailing thought is that Doctor Who has now gone from
> just the UK to worldwide status thanks to Disney, so one can
> only wonder how much this bigger stage will affect how Davies
> moves forward with the show.�
>
> Although, considering that over the past six decades, Who has
> been sold and distributed to dozens of countries, and the
> 50th anniversary special was simultaneously broadcast in
> 91 countries, there's no question that the world is well a
> ware of Doctor Who. Or should be anyway.
>
> Yet somehow, it being streamed through Disney+ has it
> allegedly reaching an even bigger audience.�
>
> By all accounts, going forward with "Season 1" (Series 1/
> Series 14/Season 40 - your choice), we are going to see this
> new direction incorporating more fantasy along with our
> science fiction, as it streams worldwide.�
>
> And it is slated to be lighter and have "more fun and joy"
> thrown into it, and it might indeed feel more like Disney in
> some ways. But let's be clear for the record - the main force
> behind that is not going be Disney.
>
> That will be Russell T Davies.
>
>
>
><https://thedoctorwhocompanion.com/2024/02/04/disneyfication-or-russellfication-why-doctor-who-isnt-being-changed-by-disney/>
>
>
>
>

Or maybe Russell is a Disney employee.
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In article <upn5c5$3hai3$1@dont-email.me>,
Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>On 2024-02-04 04:52:55 +0000, Your Name said:
>
>> "Disneyfication" or "Russellfication"?
>> Why Doctor Who Isn't Being Changed by Disney
>> --------------------------------------------
>> There's been a lot of speculation about whether Disney is
>> changing Doctor Who. The BBC sold the streaming rights for
>> new Doctor Who to Disney, so while the BBC broadcasts the
>> show in the UK, Disney is streaming it everywhere else.
>>
><snip>
>>
>>
>>
><https://thedoctorwhocompanion.com/2024/02/04/disneyfication-or-russellfication-why-doctor-who-isnt-being-changed-by-disney/>
>>
>
>
>Disney is providing a large pile of money, so of course they have some
>degree of control. If they don't like what's happening, they'll simply
>pull their money out. RTD and the BBC both know this, so they will do
>almost anything to keep Disney happy.
>
>

No wonder the Disney version of HHGTTG seems to be infleuntial.
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In article <upn64v$3hd9t$1@dont-email.me>,
Woozy Song <suzyw0ng@outlook.com> wrote:
>Hypothetically, what happens if estate of Terry Nation objects to
>transvesite Daleks reading books to children?

The public backs!

Welcome newcomer!
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The Doctor wrote on 5/2/24 12:19 am:
> In article <upn5c5$3hai3$1@dont-email.me>,
> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>> On 2024-02-04 04:52:55 +0000, Your Name said:
>>
>>> "Disneyfication" or "Russellfication"?
>>> Why Doctor Who Isn't Being Changed by Disney
>>> --------------------------------------------
>>> There's been a lot of speculation about whether Disney is
>>> changing Doctor Who. The BBC sold the streaming rights for
>>> new Doctor Who to Disney, so while the BBC broadcasts the
>>> show in the UK, Disney is streaming it everywhere else.
>>>
>> <snip>
>>>
>> <https://thedoctorwhocompanion.com/2024/02/04/disneyfication-or-russellfication-why-doctor-who-isnt-being-changed-by-disney/>
>>
>> Disney is providing a large pile of money, so of course they have some
>> degree of control. If they don't like what's happening, they'll simply
>> pull their money out. RTD and the BBC both know this, so they will do
>> almost anything to keep Disney happy.
>
> No wonder the Disney version of HHGTTG seems to be infleuntial.
>
'HHGTTG' .... 'influential'?? Really?? What the hell did it influence,
"Yellow Beard Yadallee"??
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Daniel65 wrote:
> The Doctor wrote on 5/2/24 12:19 am:
>> In article <upn5c5$3hai3$1@dont-email.me>,
>> Your Name  <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>>> On 2024-02-04 04:52:55 +0000, Your Name said:
>>>
>>>>       "Disneyfication" or "Russellfication"?
>>>>       Why Doctor Who Isn't Being Changed by Disney
>>>>       --------------------------------------------
>>>>       There's been a lot of speculation about whether Disney is
>>>>       changing Doctor Who. The BBC sold the streaming rights for
>>>>       new Doctor Who to Disney, so while the BBC broadcasts the
>>>>       show in the UK, Disney is streaming it everywhere else.
>>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>>
>>> <https://thedoctorwhocompanion.com/2024/02/04/disneyfication-or-russellfication-why-doctor-who-isnt-being-changed-by-disney/>
>>>
>>>
>>> Disney is providing a large pile of money, so of course they have some
>>> degree of control. If they don't like what's happening, they'll simply
>>> pull their money out. RTD and the BBC both know this, so they will do
>>> almost anything to keep Disney happy.
>>
>> No wonder the Disney version of HHGTTG seems to be infleuntial.
>>
> 'HHGTTG' .... 'influential'?? Really?? What the hell did it influence,
> "Yellow Beard Yadallee"??

oh look , more of the rerun

In article <uppf1h$3v738$1@dont-email.me>,
Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>The Doctor wrote on 5/2/24 12:19 am:
>> In article <upn5c5$3hai3$1@dont-email.me>,
>> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>>> On 2024-02-04 04:52:55 +0000, Your Name said:
>>>
>>>> "Disneyfication" or "Russellfication"?
>>>> Why Doctor Who Isn't Being Changed by Disney
>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>> There's been a lot of speculation about whether Disney is
>>>> changing Doctor Who. The BBC sold the streaming rights for
>>>> new Doctor Who to Disney, so while the BBC broadcasts the
>>>> show in the UK, Disney is streaming it everywhere else.
>>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>>
>>>
><https://thedoctorwhocompanion.com/2024/02/04/disneyfication-or-russellfication-why-doctor-who-isnt-being-changed-by-disney/>
>>>
>>> Disney is providing a large pile of money, so of course they have some
>>> degree of control. If they don't like what's happening, they'll simply
>>> pull their money out. RTD and the BBC both know this, so they will do
>>> almost anything to keep Disney happy.
>>
>> No wonder the Disney version of HHGTTG seems to be infleuntial.
>>
>'HHGTTG' .... 'influential'?? Really?? What the hell did it influence,
>"Yellow Beard Yadallee"??
>--
>Daniel

I said the Disney version as in

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0371724/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
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In article <nSidnZn0QIlS1134nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@giganews.com>,
% <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:
>Daniel65 wrote:
>> The Doctor wrote on 5/2/24 12:19 am:
>>> In article <upn5c5$3hai3$1@dont-email.me>,
>>> Your Name  <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2024-02-04 04:52:55 +0000, Your Name said:
>>>>
>>>>>       "Disneyfication" or "Russellfication"?
>>>>>       Why Doctor Who Isn't Being Changed by Disney
>>>>>       --------------------------------------------
>>>>>       There's been a lot of speculation about whether Disney is
>>>>>       changing Doctor Who. The BBC sold the streaming rights for
>>>>>       new Doctor Who to Disney, so while the BBC broadcasts the
>>>>>       show in the UK, Disney is streaming it everywhere else.
>>>>>
>>>> <snip>
>>>>>
>>>>
><https://thedoctorwhocompanion.com/2024/02/04/disneyfication-or-russellfication-why-doctor-who-isnt-being-changed-by-disney/>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Disney is providing a large pile of money, so of course they have some
>>>> degree of control. If they don't like what's happening, they'll simply
>>>> pull their money out. RTD and the BBC both know this, so they will do
>>>> almost anything to keep Disney happy.
>>>
>>> No wonder the Disney version of HHGTTG seems to be infleuntial.
>>>
>> 'HHGTTG' .... 'influential'?? Really?? What the hell did it influence,
>> "Yellow Beard Yadallee"??
>
>oh look , more of the rerun

Clueless is Dannyboy!
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Daniel65 wrote:

> The Doctor wrote on 5/2/24 12:19 am:
> > In article <upn5c5$3hai3$1@dont-email.me>,
> >Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Disney is providing a large pile of money, so of course they
> > > have some degree of control. If they don't like what's
> > > happening, they'll simply pull their money out. RTD and the BBC
> > > both know this, so they will do almost anything to keep Disney
> > > happy.
> >
> > No wonder the Disney version of HHGTTG seems to be infleuntial.
>
> 'HHGTTG' .... 'influential'?? Really?? What the hell did it
> influence, "Yellow Beard Yadallee"??

Dave's mind works on a dogmatic basis; if anyone mentions Disney, he
automatically replies with something about HHGTTG.

Which might have been relevant in 2005... IF anybody actually cared!
<rolls eyes>

The Doctor wrote on 5/2/24 3:00 pm:
> In article <uppf1h$3v738$1@dont-email.me>, Daniel65
> <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>> The Doctor wrote on 5/2/24 12:19 am:
>>> In article <upn5c5$3hai3$1@dont-email.me>, Your Name
>>> <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2024-02-04 04:52:55 +0000, Your Name said:
>>>>
>>>>> "Disneyfication" or "Russellfication"? Why Doctor Who Isn't
>>>>> Being Changed by Disney
>>>>> -------------------------------------------- There's been a
>>>>> lot of speculation about whether Disney is changing Doctor
>>>>> Who. The BBC sold the streaming rights for new Doctor Who to
>>>>> Disney, so while the BBC broadcasts the show in the UK,
>>>>> Disney is streaming it everywhere else.
>>>>>
>>>> <snip>
>>>>
>> <https://thedoctorwhocompanion.com/2024/02/04/disneyfication-or-russellfication-why-doctor-who-isnt-being-changed-by-disney/>
>>>>
>>>> Disney is providing a large pile of money, so of course they
>>>> have some degree of control. If they don't like what's
>>>> happening, they'll simply pull their money out. RTD and the BBC
>>>> both know this, so they will do almost anything to keep Disney
>>>> happy.
>>>
>>> No wonder the Disney version of HHGTTG seems to be infleuntial.
>>>
>> 'HHGTTG' .... 'influential'?? Really?? What the hell did it
>> influence, "Yellow Beard Yadallee"??
>
> I said the Disney version as in
>
> https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0371724/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
>
Sure YOU, "Yellow Beard Yadallee", might have *SAID* 'the Disney
version', "Yellow Beard Yadallee", BUT I CAN'T HEAR WHAT YOU SAY,
"Yellow Beard Yadallee" ..... but I can READ what YOU, "Yellow Beard
Yadallee", *TYPE* and can make fuck all sense of it, "Yellow Beard
Yadallee"!!

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Your Name wrote:

>
> "Disneyfication" or "Russellfication"?
> Why Doctor Who Isn't Being Changed by Disney
> --------------------------------------------
>
> By all accounts, going forward with "Season 1" (Series 1/
> Series 14/Season 40 - your choice), we are going to see this
> new direction incorporating more fantasy along with our
> science fiction, as it streams worldwide. 
>
> And it is slated to be lighter and have "more fun and joy"
> thrown into it, and it might indeed feel more like Disney in
> some ways. But let's be clear for the record - the main force
> behind that is not going be Disney.
>
> That will be Russell T Davies.

I am a firm believer that - just as in 2005 - "Doctor Who" in
20023/2024 is RTD's vision of the show... nothing more nothing less.

Disney are an easy scapegoat for anything that the fans don't like as
a lot of Doctor Who fans are precious about their favourite show and
hate the idea that it has any connection with a company that [say it
quietly] made Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck cartoons... and films with
Princesses in pink too. But it's clear from the comments RTD has made
about the show, the walking Davros (for example), that it's his idea
of what he thinks about social issue that has driven some of his
decision, not input from Disney.

Agamemnon goes on about the "Indian" Isaac Newton, which I still
think could be a alternate universe thing, mainly because of the
"mavity" thing. But if it's not, I highly doubt that it was Disney
that said "cast an Indian looking dude as Isaac Newton", or they said
"we've put money in to the show we want singing Goblins"! So yeah, I
think that article is right, the main force is RTD.

In article <xn0ohpjk438id54002@reader.xsnews.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>Daniel65 wrote:
>
>> The Doctor wrote on 5/2/24 12:19 am:
>> > In article <upn5c5$3hai3$1@dont-email.me>,
>> >Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Disney is providing a large pile of money, so of course they
>> > > have some degree of control. If they don't like what's
>> > > happening, they'll simply pull their money out. RTD and the BBC
>> > > both know this, so they will do almost anything to keep Disney
>> > > happy.
>> >
>> > No wonder the Disney version of HHGTTG seems to be infleuntial.
>>
>> 'HHGTTG' .... 'influential'?? Really?? What the hell did it
>> influence, "Yellow Beard Yadallee"??
>
>Dave's mind works on a dogmatic basis; if anyone mentions Disney, he
>automatically replies with something about HHGTTG.
>
>Which might have been relevant in 2005... IF anybody actually cared!
><rolls eyes>

You can see the influence

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0371724/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
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In article <upq5lo$76d2$1@dont-email.me>,
Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>The Doctor wrote on 5/2/24 3:00 pm:
>> In article <uppf1h$3v738$1@dont-email.me>, Daniel65
>> <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>> The Doctor wrote on 5/2/24 12:19 am:
>>>> In article <upn5c5$3hai3$1@dont-email.me>, Your Name
>>>> <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 2024-02-04 04:52:55 +0000, Your Name said:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Disneyfication" or "Russellfication"? Why Doctor Who Isn't
>>>>>> Being Changed by Disney
>>>>>> -------------------------------------------- There's been a
>>>>>> lot of speculation about whether Disney is changing Doctor
>>>>>> Who. The BBC sold the streaming rights for new Doctor Who to
>>>>>> Disney, so while the BBC broadcasts the show in the UK,
>>>>>> Disney is streaming it everywhere else.
>>>>>>
>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>
>>>
><https://thedoctorwhocompanion.com/2024/02/04/disneyfication-or-russellfication-why-doctor-who-isnt-being-changed-by-disney/>
>>>>>
>>>>> Disney is providing a large pile of money, so of course they
>>>>> have some degree of control. If they don't like what's
>>>>> happening, they'll simply pull their money out. RTD and the BBC
>>>>> both know this, so they will do almost anything to keep Disney
>>>>> happy.
>>>>
>>>> No wonder the Disney version of HHGTTG seems to be infleuntial.
>>>>
>>> 'HHGTTG' .... 'influential'?? Really?? What the hell did it
>>> influence, "Yellow Beard Yadallee"??
>>
>> I said the Disney version as in
>>
>> https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0371724/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
>>
>Sure YOU, "Yellow Beard Yadallee", might have *SAID* 'the Disney
>version', "Yellow Beard Yadallee", BUT I CAN'T HEAR WHAT YOU SAY,
>"Yellow Beard Yadallee" ..... but I can READ what YOU, "Yellow Beard
>Yadallee", *TYPE* and can make f*k all sense of it, "Yellow Beard
>Yadallee"!!
>
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That click and get the idea!
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In article <xn0ohplu63bnyww004@reader.xsnews.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>Your Name wrote:
>
>>
>> "Disneyfication" or "Russellfication"?
>> Why Doctor Who Isn't Being Changed by Disney
>> --------------------------------------------
>>
>> By all accounts, going forward with "Season 1" (Series 1/
>> Series 14/Season 40 - your choice), we are going to see this
>> new direction incorporating more fantasy along with our
>> science fiction, as it streams worldwide.�
>>
>> And it is slated to be lighter and have "more fun and joy"
>> thrown into it, and it might indeed feel more like Disney in
>> some ways. But let's be clear for the record - the main force
>> behind that is not going be Disney.
>>
>> That will be Russell T Davies.
>
>I am a firm believer that - just as in 2005 - "Doctor Who" in
>20023/2024 is RTD's vision of the show... nothing more nothing less.
>
>Disney are an easy scapegoat for anything that the fans don't like as
>a lot of Doctor Who fans are precious about their favourite show and
>hate the idea that it has any connection with a company that [say it
>quietly] made Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck cartoons... and films with
>Princesses in pink too. But it's clear from the comments RTD has made
>about the show, the walking Davros (for example), that it's his idea
>of what he thinks about social issue that has driven some of his
>decision, not input from Disney.
>
>Agamemnon goes on about the "Indian" Isaac Newton, which I still
>think could be a alternate universe thing, mainly because of the
>"mavity" thing. But if it's not, I highly doubt that it was Disney
>that said "cast an Indian looking dude as Isaac Newton", or they said
>"we've put money in to the show we want singing Goblins"! So yeah, I
>think that article is right, the main force is RTD.

What about

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0371724/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1 ??
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The Doctor wrote:

> In article <xn0ohpjk438id54002@reader.xsnews.nl>,
> Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
> > Daniel65 wrote:
> >>
> >> 'HHGTTG' .... 'influential'?? Really?? What the hell did it
> >> influence, "Yellow Beard Yadallee"??
> >
> > Dave's mind works on a dogmatic basis; if anyone mentions
> > Disney, he automatically replies with something about HHGTTG.
> >
> > Which might have been relevant in 2005... IF anybody actually
> > cared! <rolls eyes>
>
> You can see the influence
>
> https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0371724/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

I can see what a bigger budget can do to a TV show, but that has
nothing to do with the movie adaptation of a radio show from nearly
twenty years ago.

In article <xn0ohpuuc3nu294003@reader.xsnews.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>The Doctor wrote:
>
>> In article <xn0ohpjk438id54002@reader.xsnews.nl>,
>> Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>> > Daniel65 wrote:
>> >>
>> >> 'HHGTTG' .... 'influential'?? Really?? What the hell did it
>> >> influence, "Yellow Beard Yadallee"??
>> >
>> > Dave's mind works on a dogmatic basis; if anyone mentions
>> > Disney, he automatically replies with something about HHGTTG.
>> >
>> > Which might have been relevant in 2005... IF anybody actually
>> > cared! <rolls eyes>
>>
>> You can see the influence
>>
>> https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0371724/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
>
>I can see what a bigger budget can do to a TV show, but that has
>nothing to do with the movie adaptation of a radio show from nearly
>twenty years ago.

Do you recall seeing the 2005 movie?
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The Doctor wrote:

> In article <xn0ohpuuc3nu294003@reader.xsnews.nl>,
> Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
> > The Doctor wrote:
> >>
> >> You can see the influence
> >>
> >> https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0371724/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
> >
> > I can see what a bigger budget can do to a TV show, but that has
> > nothing to do with the movie adaptation of a radio show from
> > nearly twenty years ago.
>
> Do you recall seeing the 2005 movie?

Vaguely. It's not something that I was in a hurry to re-watch.
(Maybe if I had of been ten years old at the time!)

I misread the title of this thread as "Disneyfication or Russiafication?"

;-)

In article <xn0ohpwol3qcubq002@reader.xsnews.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>The Doctor wrote:
>
>> In article <xn0ohpuuc3nu294003@reader.xsnews.nl>,
>> Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>> > The Doctor wrote:
>> >>
>> >> You can see the influence
>> >>
>> >> https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0371724/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
>> >
>> > I can see what a bigger budget can do to a TV show, but that has
>> > nothing to do with the movie adaptation of a radio show from
>> > nearly twenty years ago.
>>
>> Do you recall seeing the 2005 movie?
>
>Vaguely. It's not something that I was in a hurry to re-watch.
>(Maybe if I had of been ten years old at the time!)

You must have been 10 when Jon Pertwee was the Doctor.

Clue, it is rated 6.7/10!
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In article <uprgfl$eoni$1@dont-email.me>,
Agent Jakanov <mouth@onlegs.org> wrote:
>I misread the title of this thread as "Disneyfication or Russiafication?"
>
>;-)

Ha! Ha!!
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doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote in news:uprp4g$bkf$11
@gallifrey.nk.ca:

> In article <uprgfl$eoni$1@dont-email.me>,
> Agent Jakanov <mouth@onlegs.org> wrote:
>>I misread the title of this thread as "Disneyfication or Russiafication?"
>>
>>;-)
>
> Ha! Ha!!

Imagine if Doctor Who was made in Russia. The Doctor would be defending
the glory of the Russian Empire against alien invaders.

In article <ups3t1$hmi2$1@dont-email.me>,
Agent Jakanov <mouth@onlegs.org> wrote:
>doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote in news:uprp4g$bkf$11
>@gallifrey.nk.ca:
>
>> In article <uprgfl$eoni$1@dont-email.me>,
>> Agent Jakanov <mouth@onlegs.org> wrote:
>>>I misread the title of this thread as "Disneyfication or Russiafication?"
>>>
>>>;-)
>>
>> Ha! Ha!!
>
>Imagine if Doctor Who was made in Russia. The Doctor would be defending
>the glory of the Russian Empire against alien invaders.
>

no! The Doctor whould be cyberised.
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The Doctor wrote on 6/2/24 2:02 am:
> In article <upq5lo$76d2$1@dont-email.me>,
> Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>> The Doctor wrote on 5/2/24 3:00 pm:
>>> In article <uppf1h$3v738$1@dont-email.me>, Daniel65
>>> <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>> The Doctor wrote on 5/2/24 12:19 am:
>>>>> In article <upn5c5$3hai3$1@dont-email.me>, Your Name
>>>>> <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 2024-02-04 04:52:55 +0000, Your Name said:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Disneyfication" or "Russellfication"? Why Doctor Who Isn't
>>>>>>> Being Changed by Disney
>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------- There's been a
>>>>>>> lot of speculation about whether Disney is changing Doctor
>>>>>>> Who. The BBC sold the streaming rights for new Doctor Who to
>>>>>>> Disney, so while the BBC broadcasts the show in the UK,
>>>>>>> Disney is streaming it everywhere else.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>> <https://thedoctorwhocompanion.com/2024/02/04/disneyfication-or-russellfication-why-doctor-who-isnt-being-changed-by-disney/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Disney is providing a large pile of money, so of course they
>>>>>> have some degree of control. If they don't like what's
>>>>>> happening, they'll simply pull their money out. RTD and the BBC
>>>>>> both know this, so they will do almost anything to keep Disney
>>>>>> happy.
>>>>>
>>>>> No wonder the Disney version of HHGTTG seems to be infleuntial.
>>>>>
>>>> 'HHGTTG' .... 'influential'?? Really?? What the hell did it
>>>> influence, "Yellow Beard Yadallee"??
>>>
>>> I said the Disney version as in
>>>
>>> https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0371724/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
>>>
>> Sure YOU, "Yellow Beard Yadallee", might have *SAID* 'the Disney
>> version', "Yellow Beard Yadallee", BUT I CAN'T HEAR WHAT YOU SAY,
>> "Yellow Beard Yadallee" ..... but I can READ what YOU, "Yellow Beard
>> Yadallee", *TYPE* and can make f*k all sense of it, "Yellow Beard
>> Yadallee"!!
>
> That click and get the idea!
>
BT,DT, "Yellow Beard Yadallee", even seen the Film .... but got bugger
all idea why YOU, "Yellow Beard Yadallee", think 'HHGTTG' is
'influential', "Yellow Beard Yadallee"!!
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