RMCR...

On 11/16/2021 10:05 AM, MELMOTH wrote:
> RMCR...
>

Maybe life support. Time to pull the plug?

On 11/16/21 8:42 AM, Frank Berger wrote:
> On 11/16/2021 10:05 AM, MELMOTH wrote:
>> RMCR...
>>
>
> Maybe life support. Time to pull the plug?

There certainly hasn't been much activity for several weeks now. I will
miss it if it folds, but life will go on.

Bob Harper

On 11/16/2021 2:59 PM, Bob Harper wrote:
> On 11/16/21 8:42 AM, Frank Berger wrote:
>> On 11/16/2021 10:05 AM, MELMOTH wrote:
>>> RMCR...
>>>
>>
>> Maybe life support. Time to pull the plug?
>
> There certainly hasn't been much activity for several weeks now. I will miss it if it folds, but life will go on.
>
> Bob Harper

I've looked at talkclassical but it doesn't seem interesting. Lots of polls. Anyplace else?

These things have ups and downs.

Obviously things will get more active if people just post on whatever they're listening to.

On Tuesday, November 16, 2021 at 12:31:10 PM UTC-8, Herman wrote:
> These things have ups and downs.
>
> Obviously things will get more active if people just post on whatever they're listening to.

I think the wrong person stopped posting - if it had been gggg gggg rather than dk, everything would still be fine! ;-)

On Tuesday, 16 November 2021 at 22:10:40 UTC, Chris from Lafayette wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 16, 2021 at 12:31:10 PM UTC-8, Herman wrote:
> > These things have ups and downs.
> >
> > Obviously things will get more active if people just post on whatever they're listening to.
> I think the wrong person stopped posting - if it had been gggg gggg rather than dk, everything would still be fine! ;-)

It's clear that Dan was holding up the group with his energy and eccentric impact.

On Tuesday, November 16, 2021 at 7:05:18 AM UTC-8, MELMOTH wrote:
> RMCR...

In the U.S., nobody talks about 'dumbing down' anymore because it's become only too obvious.

Concerning literature study guides, there is a series called NO FEAR TRANSLATION which includes "Beowulf" where the Old English text is on the left-hand page and facing it on the right-hand page is the text in modern English

If you can believe it, that series includes "Heart of Darkness" probably because young readers nowadays find the 1899 text just too difficult to fathom.

But then again, after "Love Story" came out, it was included in the Readers Digest Condensed Book series.

By the way, that series included Lampedusa's "The Leopard" which is not a very long novel to begin with.

On Tuesday, November 16, 2021 at 7:05:18 AM UTC-8, MELMOTH wrote:
> RMCR...

In the U.S., nobody talks about 'dumbing down' anymore because it's become only too obvious.

Concerning literature study guides, there is a series called NO FEAR TRANSLATION which includes "Beowulf" where the Old English text is on the left-hand page and facing it on the right-hand page is the text in modern English

If you can believe it, that series includes "Heart of Darkness" probably because young readers nowadays find the 1899 text just too difficult to fathom.

But then again, after "Love Story" came out, it was included in the Readers Digest Condensed Book series.

By the way, that series also included Lampedusa's "The Leopard" which is not a very long novel to begin with.

On Tuesday, November 16, 2021 at 7:05:18 AM UTC-8, MELMOTH wrote:
> RMCR...

In the U.S., nobody talks about 'dumbing down' anymore because it's become only too obvious.

Concerning literature study guides, there is a series called NO FEAR LITERATURE which includes "Beowulf" where the Old English text is on the left-hand page and facing it on the right-hand page is the text in modern English

If you can believe it, that series includes "Heart of Darkness" probably because young readers nowadays find the 1899 text just too difficult to fathom:

https://www.sparknotes.com/lit/#jumpTo-no-fear

But then again, after "Love Story" came out, it was abridged(?!) and included in the Readers Digest Condensed Book series.

By the way, that series also included Lampedusa's "The Leopard" which is not a very long novel to begin with.

On Tuesday, November 16, 2021 at 8:40:19 PM UTC-10, gggg gggg wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 16, 2021 at 7:05:18 AM UTC-8, MELMOTH wrote:
> > RMCR...
>
> In the U.S., nobody talks about 'dumbing down' anymore because it's become only too obvious.
>
> Concerning literature study guides, there is a series called NO FEAR LITERATURE which includes "Beowulf" where the Old English text is on the left-hand page and facing it on the right-hand page is the text in modern English
>
> If you can believe it, that series includes "Heart of Darkness" probably because young readers nowadays find the 1899 text just too difficult to fathom:
>
> https://www.sparknotes.com/lit/#jumpTo-no-fear
>
> But then again, after "Love Story" came out, it was abridged(?!) and included in the Readers Digest Condensed Book series.
>
> By the way, that series also included Lampedusa's "The Leopard" which is not a very long novel to begin with.

According to this, some consider TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD and OF MICE AND MEN to be 'dated':

https://www.scotsman.com/news/opinion/columnists/if-scotlands-schools-are-to-drop-books-like-to-kill-a-mockingbird-they-must-resist-dumbing-down-cameron-wyllie-3300194

The only thing RMCRers can do is just post about things they're interested in, preferably music.
However if you look at other places where mr. gggg is active it's clear that his posts / links are like a fungus, overwhelming all other activity and demoralizing the original posters, so that in the end a site is 100% gggg. That's the way, uhuh, he likes it.

Op dinsdag 16 november 2021 om 23:10:40 UTC+1 schreef Chris from Lafayette:
> On Tuesday, November 16, 2021 at 12:31:10 PM UTC-8, Herman wrote:
> > These things have ups and downs.
> >
> > Obviously things will get more active if people just post on whatever they're listening to.
> I think the wrong person stopped posting - if it had been gggg gggg rather than dk, everything would still be fine! ;-)

<g> A group that depends on one poster is doomed, whether it is DK or gggg (bien étonnés de se trouver ensemble).

Henk

All of Usenet seems to be dying. I used to subscribe to about 20 sites and most have transitioned to dedicated forums or Facebook pages. RMCR is the last one to have at least one post a day; most have shut down.

Possibly the dearth of retail outlets is a big factor in the decline of RMCR. I managed to find recordings I ultimately loved by flipping through bins. I also found a lot of dross that way.

Anyone know of any good moderated forums related to recorded classical music?

On Wednesday, November 17, 2021 at 1:06:39 AM UTC-8, Herman wrote:
> The only thing RMCRers can do is just post about things they're interested in, preferably music.
> However if you look at other places where mr. gggg is active it's clear that his posts / links are like a fungus, overwhelming all other activity and demoralizing the original posters, so that in the end a site is 100% gggg.. That's the way, uhuh, he likes it.

- Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people.

Eleanor Roosevelt

In article <287068f0-bc6f-4a92-8311-dda26719daf3n@googlegroups.com>,
gggg gggg <ggggg9271@gmail.com> wrote:
>- Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds
>discuss people.

Links aren't a discussion.

On Wednesday, November 17, 2021 at 7:37:03 PM UTC+1, gggg gggg wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 17, 2021 at 1:06:39 AM UTC-8, Herman wrote:
> > The only thing RMCRers can do is just post about things they're interested in, preferably music.
> > However if you look at other places where mr. gggg is active it's clear that his posts / links are like a fungus, overwhelming all other activity and demoralizing the original posters, so that in the end a site is 100% gggg. That's the way, uhuh, he likes it.
> - Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people.
>
That may or may not be true, but "discussing" mr gggg isn't "discussing people". He's an automaton, a soulless quoter and linker.

On 2021-11-17 12:42 p.m., Herman wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 17, 2021 at 7:37:03 PM UTC+1, gggg gggg wrote:
>> On Wednesday, November 17, 2021 at 1:06:39 AM UTC-8, Herman wrote:
>>> The only thing RMCRers can do is just post about things they're interested in, preferably music.
>>> However if you look at other places where mr. gggg is active it's clear that his posts / links are like a fungus, overwhelming all other activity and demoralizing the original posters, so that in the end a site is 100% gggg. That's the way, uhuh, he likes it.
>> - Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people.
>>
> That may or may not be true, but "discussing" mr gggg isn't "discussing people". He's an automaton, a soulless quoter and linker.
>
and polluting the wine group too.

On Wednesday, November 17, 2021 at 8:50:53 PM UTC+1, Graham wrote:
> On 2021-11-17 12:42 p.m., Herman wrote:
> > On Wednesday, November 17, 2021 at 7:37:03 PM UTC+1, gggg gggg wrote:
> >> On Wednesday, November 17, 2021 at 1:06:39 AM UTC-8, Herman wrote:
> >>> The only thing RMCRers can do is just post about things they're interested in, preferably music.
> >>> However if you look at other places where mr. gggg is active it's clear that his posts / links are like a fungus, overwhelming all other activity and demoralizing the original posters, so that in the end a site is 100% gggg. That's the way, uhuh, he likes it.
> >> - Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people.
> >>
> > That may or may not be true, but "discussing" mr gggg isn't "discussing people". He's an automaton, a soulless quoter and linker.
> >
> and polluting the wine group too.

plus, allegedly, some movie group as well. I said fungus.

On Wed, 17 Nov 2021 10:37:01 -0800 (PST), gggg gggg
<ggggg9271@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wednesday, November 17, 2021 at 1:06:39 AM UTC-8, Herman wrote:
>> The only thing RMCRers can do is just post about things they're interested in, preferably music.
>> However if you look at other places where mr. gggg is active it's clear that his posts / links are like a fungus, overwhelming all other activity and demoralizing the original posters, so that in the end a site is 100% gggg. That's the way, uhuh, he likes it.
>
>- Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people.
>
>Eleanor Roosevelt

Just as I always had thought. One of my least favorite authors, Jane
Austen, had a small mind.

On 11/17/2021 5:33 PM, Ricardo Jimenez wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Nov 2021 10:37:01 -0800 (PST), gggg gggg
> <ggggg9271@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday, November 17, 2021 at 1:06:39 AM UTC-8, Herman wrote:
>>> The only thing RMCRers can do is just post about things they're interested in, preferably music.
>>> However if you look at other places where mr. gggg is active it's clear that his posts / links are like a fungus, overwhelming all other activity and demoralizing the original posters, so that in the end a site is 100% gggg. That's the way, uhuh, he likes it.
>>
>> - Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people.
>>
>> Eleanor Roosevelt
>
> Just as I always had thought. One of my least favorite authors, Jane
> Austen, had a small mind.
>

I thought pride, prejudice, sense, sensibility and such were ideas.

On Wednesday, November 17, 2021 at 11:57:42 AM UTC-8, Herman wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 17, 2021 at 8:50:53 PM UTC+1, Graham wrote:
> > On 2021-11-17 12:42 p.m., Herman wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, November 17, 2021 at 7:37:03 PM UTC+1, gggg gggg wrote:
> > >> On Wednesday, November 17, 2021 at 1:06:39 AM UTC-8, Herman wrote:
> > >>> The only thing RMCRers can do is just post about things they're interested in, preferably music.
> > >>> However if you look at other places where mr. gggg is active it's clear that his posts / links are like a fungus, overwhelming all other activity and demoralizing the original posters, so that in the end a site is 100% gggg. That's the way, uhuh, he likes it.
> > >> - Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people.
> > >>
> > > That may or may not be true, but "discussing" mr gggg isn't "discussing people". He's an automaton, a soulless quoter and linker.
> > >
> > and polluting the wine group too.
> plus, allegedly, some movie group as well. I said fungus.

https://images.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?p=spock+that%27s+enough+gif&fr=yhs-bc-fresh&type=js1&hspart=bc&hsimp=yhs-fresh&imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.reactiongifs.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F06%2Foh-really-now..gif#id=32&iurl=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia.giphy.com%2Fmedia%2F4APAe5Vw4xHGM%2Fgiphy.gif&action=click

On Wednesday, November 17, 2021 at 8:57:42 PM UTC+1, Herman wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 17, 2021 at 8:50:53 PM UTC+1, Graham wrote:
> > On 2021-11-17 12:42 p.m., Herman wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, November 17, 2021 at 7:37:03 PM UTC+1, gggg gggg wrote:
> > >> On Wednesday, November 17, 2021 at 1:06:39 AM UTC-8, Herman wrote:
> > >>> The only thing RMCRers can do is just post about things they're interested in, preferably music.
> > >>> However if you look at other places where mr. gggg is active it's clear that his posts / links are like a fungus, overwhelming all other activity and demoralizing the original posters, so that in the end a site is 100% gggg. That's the way, uhuh, he likes it.
> > >> - Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people.
> > >>
> > > That may or may not be true, but "discussing" mr gggg isn't "discussing people". He's an automaton, a soulless quoter and linker.
> > >
> > and polluting the wine group too.
> plus, allegedly, some movie group as well. I said fungus.

So, in response to some complaints about his m.o. Mr. gggg doubles down and posts eight or nine topics, that is a couple new topics with stupid links, and six or seven resurrections, old topics that are catapulted back on top with self-referential links - i.e. links to more recent gggg duds.

It's pretty clear that gggg just wants to kill this group.

On Thursday, 18 November 2021 at 10:01:16 UTC, Herman wrote:
> It's pretty clear that gggg just wants to kill this group.

This group can easily survive gggg - that's just shifting the blame. What it needs is energy and motivation.

A lot more posts and discussion. Not games and lists like the other classical forum but just some life and colour. Dan was controversial and that in itself generated posts. So controversial is good. All dramas need a villain, and that isn't gggg.

On Thursday, November 18, 2021 at 11:26:02 AM UTC+1, Andy Evans wrote:
> On Thursday, 18 November 2021 at 10:01:16 UTC, Herman wrote:
> > It's pretty clear that gggg just wants to kill this group.
> This group can easily survive gggg - that's just shifting the blame. What it needs is energy and motivation.
>
> A lot more posts and discussion. Not games and lists like the other classical forum but just some life and colour. Dan was controversial and that in itself generated posts. So controversial is good. All dramas need a villain, and that isn't gggg.

I agree that it takes more activity; but it's also pretty clear that there are days gggg posts so many links on different topics because he just wants to bury the 'front page' under his topics. It's a deliberate tactic.