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I hadn't heard them since the late sixties when I bought the Drolc Quartet's LP. Just heard the A major on the radio and was practically dancing on top of my steering wheel.

All suggestions welcome.

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On Monday, November 22, 2021 at 7:38:32 PM UTC+1, MickeyBoy wrote:
> I hadn't heard them since the late sixties when I bought the Drolc Quartet's LP. Just heard the A major on the radio and was practically dancing on top of my steering wheel.
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> All suggestions welcome.

I don't know about availability, but the Vogler Qt (couplings with Brahms) is really good. So is the French Quatuor Ysaye.

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On Monday, November 22, 2021 at 1:38:32 PM UTC-5, MickeyBoy wrote:
> I hadn't heard them since the late sixties when I bought the Drolc Quartet's LP. Just heard the A major on the radio and was practically dancing on top of my steering wheel.
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> All suggestions welcome.

Eroica Quartet for HIP; otherwise the Dover Quartet.

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 by: Frank Berger - Mon, 22 Nov 2021 19:20 UTC

On 11/22/2021 2:07 PM, Herman wrote:
> On Monday, November 22, 2021 at 7:38:32 PM UTC+1, MickeyBoy wrote:
>> I hadn't heard them since the late sixties when I bought the Drolc Quartet's LP. Just heard the A major on the radio and was practically dancing on top of my steering wheel.
>>
>> All suggestions welcome.
>
> I don't know about availability, but the Vogler Qt (couplings with Brahms) is really good. So is the French Quatuor Ysaye.
>

I've not seen the A major (op 41, no. 3) by Vogler, only the first two. Are you sure they recorded it? For #3 I like the 1953 recordings by the New Music String Quartet.

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On Monday, November 22, 2021 at 8:20:15 PM UTC+1, Frank Berger wrote:
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> I've not seen the A major (op 41, no. 3) by Vogler, only the first two. Are you sure they recorded it? [...]

Yes, I have the Vogler RCA cd with Schumann's 41/3 and Brahms 51/2. The copyright is from 1995.

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MickeyBoy schrieb am Montag, 22. November 2021 um 19:38:32 UTC+1:
> I hadn't heard them since the late sixties when I bought the Drolc Quartet's LP. Just heard the A major on the radio and was practically dancing on top of my steering wheel.
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> All suggestions welcome.

Juilliard Quartet but this might have to be ordered from Japan
Hagen on two DG discs (with the piano quintet) but they can be a bit extreme and mannered (which I think fits the pieces)

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On Monday, November 22, 2021 at 10:38:32 AM UTC-8, MickeyBoy wrote:
> I hadn't heard them since the late sixties when I bought the Drolc Quartet's LP. Just heard the A major on the radio and was practically dancing on top of my steering wheel.
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> All suggestions welcome.

The Engegård Quartet on BIS, if you want a modern recording. Playing and engineering (especially in MCh) are both superb.

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 by: Frank Berger - Mon, 22 Nov 2021 22:30 UTC

On 11/22/2021 2:50 PM, Herman wrote:
> On Monday, November 22, 2021 at 8:20:15 PM UTC+1, Frank Berger wrote:
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>>>
>> I've not seen the A major (op 41, no. 3) by Vogler, only the first two. Are you sure they recorded it? [...]
>
> Yes, I have the Vogler RCA cd with Schumann's 41/3 and Brahms 51/2. The copyright is from 1995.
>

After some effort and adding an extra t to quartet, I found one on Discogs, priced quite reasonably. Thanks.

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 by: MELMOTH - Mon, 22 Nov 2021 23:44 UTC

MickeyBoy avait prétendu :
> All suggestions welcome.

Cherubini...
Italiano...

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On Monday, November 22, 2021 at 11:30:27 PM UTC+1, Frank Berger wrote:
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> After some effort and adding an extra t to quartet, I found one on Discogs, priced quite reasonably. Thanks.

I should have mentioned the digital code, however you found one. It's always good to have a complete set, especially in these dud-less Schumannn / Brahms oeuvres. Enjoy!

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Op 22-11-2021 om 20:07 schreef Herman:
> On Monday, November 22, 2021 at 7:38:32 PM UTC+1, MickeyBoy wrote:
>> I hadn't heard them since the late sixties when I bought the Drolc Quartet's LP. Just heard the A major on the radio and was practically dancing on top of my steering wheel.
>>
>> All suggestions welcome.
>
> I don't know about availability, but the Vogler Qt (couplings with Brahms) is really good. So is the French Quatuor Ysaye.
>
I don't know about favourites, I never really compared any and don't
know many versions. But I like the Hagen quartet. It's coupled (on one
cd) with a fine rendition of the piano quintet with Paul Gulda.

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On Tuesday, November 23, 2021 at 5:40:12 PM UTC+1, Frank Lekens wrote:
> Op 22-11-2021 om 20:07 schreef Herman:
> > On Monday, November 22, 2021 at 7:38:32 PM UTC+1, MickeyBoy wrote:
> >> I hadn't heard them since the late sixties when I bought the Drolc Quartet's LP. Just heard the A major on the radio and was practically dancing on top of my steering wheel.
> >>
> >> All suggestions welcome.
> >
> > I don't know about availability, but the Vogler Qt (couplings with Brahms) is really good. So is the French Quatuor Ysaye.
> >
> I don't know about favourites, I never really compared any and don't
> know many versions. But I like the Hagen quartet. It's coupled (on one
> cd) with a fine rendition of the piano quintet with Paul Gulda.
>
I have that one too. Problem is I like the Schumann's Piano Quartet a lot better than the Quintet.

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On Monday, November 22, 2021 at 10:38:32 AM UTC-8, MickeyBoy wrote:
> I hadn't heard them since the late sixties when I bought the Drolc Quartet's LP. Just heard the A major on the radio and was practically dancing on top of my steering wheel.
>
> All suggestions welcome.

Has anyone mentioned the Doric Quartet? A recent recording brought to my attention by contributor Dirge, which might be my favorite full set of the three since the superb Juilliard Quartet record of the late 1960s; as was mentioned, I think the latter has to be gotten from Japan. The Auryn is recommendable but not quite at the same level, a shade more understated than it might be.

The Lark Quartet, like many other ensembles, just recorded #1 and #3 but it's a splendid set; sensitive, alert, and gutsy. Incidentally, Astrid Schween, their long-time cellist, is now with the Juilliard.

Also incidentally, there are superlative recordings of single quartets by (chronologically) the Lener Quartet, the Paganini, the Quartetto Italiano (I prefer their one quartet on EMI to anything in their Philips set), and the Musikverein (Decca, reissued on Eloquence).

Outside of a live Bruckner Quintet, I never warmed to the Voglers but admit that I haven't heard their Schumann.

SE.

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> > All suggestions welcome.

Eroica 1999 for the complete Op.41 set
Also:
Op.41 No.1: Petersen 1993, Zehetmair 2001, Pacifica 2016
Op.41 No.2: Italiano 1950
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On Wednesday, November 24, 2021 at 2:33:08 PM UTC-8, Paolo Pesenti wrote:
> > > All suggestions welcome.
>
> Eroica 1999 for the complete Op.41 set
> Also:
> Op.41 No.1: Petersen 1993, Zehetmair 2001, Pacifica 2016
> Op.41 No.2: Italiano 1950
> Op.41 No.3: Zehetmair 2001

Paolo, is it No. 2 for sure from the early Italianos? I have the early QI (Angel/EMI) in No. 3 (coupling Stravinsky's Three Pieces), and this is the Schumann that appears to be in the Warner QI box. It would be interesting, as #2 is the least-often played.

Thanks,
SE.

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On Wednesday, November 24, 2021 at 4:29:11 PM UTC-8, Steve Emerson wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 24, 2021 at 2:33:08 PM UTC-8, Paolo Pesenti wrote:
> > > > All suggestions welcome.
> >
> > Eroica 1999 for the complete Op.41 set
> > Also:
> > Op.41 No.1: Petersen 1993, Zehetmair 2001, Pacifica 2016
> > Op.41 No.2: Italiano 1950
> > Op.41 No.3: Zehetmair 2001
> Paolo, is it No. 2 for sure from the early Italianos? I have the early QI (Angel/EMI) in No. 3 (coupling Stravinsky's Three Pieces), and this is the Schumann that appears to be in the Warner QI box. It would be interesting, as #2 is the least-often played.
>
> Thanks,
> SE.
Not sure if I'm understanding the question, but I have the Decca QI box, and #2 is in there twice - once on CD5 from 1950, the second time on CD33 (with the other two quartets of opus 41)

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Many thanks, Thomas. Guess my knowledge of their discography is limited. I now see that they recorded #2 when they were the "New Italian Quartet," for Decca (looks like a handful of things appeared that way). Coupling the Verdi quartet.

Best,
SE.

On Wednesday, November 24, 2021 at 11:40:02 PM UTC-8, thomasp...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 24, 2021 at 4:29:11 PM UTC-8, Steve Emerson wrote:
> > On Wednesday, November 24, 2021 at 2:33:08 PM UTC-8, Paolo Pesenti wrote:
> > > > > All suggestions welcome.
> > >
> > > Eroica 1999 for the complete Op.41 set
> > > Also:
> > > Op.41 No.1: Petersen 1993, Zehetmair 2001, Pacifica 2016
> > > Op.41 No.2: Italiano 1950
> > > Op.41 No.3: Zehetmair 2001
> > Paolo, is it No. 2 for sure from the early Italianos? I have the early QI (Angel/EMI) in No. 3 (coupling Stravinsky's Three Pieces), and this is the Schumann that appears to be in the Warner QI box. It would be interesting, as #2 is the least-often played.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > SE.
> Not sure if I'm understanding the question, but I have the Decca QI box, and #2 is in there twice - once on CD5 from 1950, the second time on CD33 (with the other two quartets of opus 41)

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