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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vMpgKFNu5A

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On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 10:38:38 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vMpgKFNu5A

"'Four and Twenty Hours' sounds like a Christmas song that has come out early...way too early. I knew it was the Ivy League because I could hear the singer's nose scraping against the mic."

Entwistle was always funny and ungenerous with his praise.

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 by: Bruce - Tue, 21 Jun 2022 14:00 UTC

On Tuesday, June 21, 2022 at 6:29:25 AM UTC-4, Norbert K wrote:
> On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 10:38:38 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vMpgKFNu5A
>
> "'Four and Twenty Hours' sounds like a Christmas song that has come out early...way too early. I knew it was the Ivy League because I could hear the singer's nose scraping against the mic."

Yes, that was hysterical.

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 by: geoff - Tue, 21 Jun 2022 23:28 UTC

On 21/06/2022 10:29 pm, Norbert K wrote:
> On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 10:38:38 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vMpgKFNu5A
>
> "'Four and Twenty Hours' sounds like a Christmas song that has come out early...way too early. I knew it was the Ivy League because I could hear the singer's nose scraping against the mic."
>
> Entwistle was always funny and ungenerous with his praise.

He should be the one to talk about noses !

And in the end it was his nose that was his undoing ;- (

geoff

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On Tuesday, June 21, 2022 at 7:28:52 PM UTC-4, geoff wrote:
> On 21/06/2022 10:29 pm, Norbert K wrote:
> > On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 10:38:38 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vMpgKFNu5A
> >
> > "'Four and Twenty Hours' sounds like a Christmas song that has come out early...way too early. I knew it was the Ivy League because I could hear the singer's nose scraping against the mic."
> >
> > Entwistle was always funny and ungenerous with his praise.
> He should be the one to talk about noses !
>
> And in the end it was his nose that was his undoing ;- (
>
> geoff

"The Who have big enough noses to take the punches."

-- Roger Daltrey, responding to criticism of the Who for accepting tour sponsorship from a beer company.

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 by: geoff - Wed, 22 Jun 2022 22:28 UTC

On 23/06/2022 12:25 am, Norbert K wrote:
> On Tuesday, June 21, 2022 at 7:28:52 PM UTC-4, geoff wrote:
>> On 21/06/2022 10:29 pm, Norbert K wrote:
>>> On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 10:38:38 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vMpgKFNu5A
>>>
>>> "'Four and Twenty Hours' sounds like a Christmas song that has come out early...way too early. I knew it was the Ivy League because I could hear the singer's nose scraping against the mic."
>>>
>>> Entwistle was always funny and ungenerous with his praise.
>> He should be the one to talk about noses !
>>
>> And in the end it was his nose that was his undoing ;- (
>>
>> geoff
>
> "The Who have big enough noses to take the punches."
>
> -- Roger Daltrey, responding to criticism of the Who for accepting tour sponsorship from a beer company.
>

One fewer big nose since JE's snorted his last line and his heart
stopped ;- (

geoff

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 by: Norbert K - Wed, 22 Jun 2022 23:08 UTC

On Wednesday, June 22, 2022 at 3:28:12 PM UTC-7, geoff wrote:
> On 23/06/2022 12:25 am, Norbert K wrote:
> > On Tuesday, June 21, 2022 at 7:28:52 PM UTC-4, geoff wrote:
> >> On 21/06/2022 10:29 pm, Norbert K wrote:
> >>> On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 10:38:38 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vMpgKFNu5A
> >>>
> >>> "'Four and Twenty Hours' sounds like a Christmas song that has come out early...way too early. I knew it was the Ivy League because I could hear the singer's nose scraping against the mic."
> >>>
> >>> Entwistle was always funny and ungenerous with his praise.
> >> He should be the one to talk about noses !
> >>
> >> And in the end it was his nose that was his undoing ;- (
> >>
> >> geoff
> >
> > "The Who have big enough noses to take the punches."
> >
> > -- Roger Daltrey, responding to criticism of the Who for accepting tour sponsorship from a beer company.
> >
> One fewer big nose since JE's snorted his last line and his heart
> stopped ;- (
>
> geoff

They didn't merely lose a big & rather aristocratic nose when Entwistle died; they lost an essential part of their sound. Good as Pino Palladino is, he doesn't move the music along as Entwistle did.

All sorts of stories about Entwistle came out after his death, but I -- in spite of all the drug fans I've been acquainted with -- would never have guessed he was seriously into coke. He seemed mellow and humorous in a sardonic sort of way.

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 by: geoff - Thu, 23 Jun 2022 00:51 UTC

On 23/06/2022 11:08 am, Norbert K wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 22, 2022 at 3:28:12 PM UTC-7, geoff wrote:
>> On 23/06/2022 12:25 am, Norbert K wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, June 21, 2022 at 7:28:52 PM UTC-4, geoff wrote:
>>>> On 21/06/2022 10:29 pm, Norbert K wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 10:38:38 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vMpgKFNu5A
>>>>>
>>>>> "'Four and Twenty Hours' sounds like a Christmas song that has come out early...way too early. I knew it was the Ivy League because I could hear the singer's nose scraping against the mic."
>>>>>
>>>>> Entwistle was always funny and ungenerous with his praise.
>>>> He should be the one to talk about noses !
>>>>
>>>> And in the end it was his nose that was his undoing ;- (
>>>>
>>>> geoff
>>>
>>> "The Who have big enough noses to take the punches."
>>>
>>> -- Roger Daltrey, responding to criticism of the Who for accepting tour sponsorship from a beer company.
>>>
>> One fewer big nose since JE's snorted his last line and his heart
>> stopped ;- (
>>
>> geoff
>
> They didn't merely lose a big & rather aristocratic nose when Entwistle died; they lost an essential part of their sound. Good as Pino Palladino is, he doesn't move the music along as Entwistle did.
>
> All sorts of stories about Entwistle came out after his death, but I -- in spite of all the drug fans I've been acquainted with -- would never have guessed he was seriously into coke. He seemed mellow and humorous in a sardonic sort of way.
>
>

I don't think he had been for some time, and maybe 'out of practice'
which was the problem. Possibly thought he needed some sort of booster
for the upcoming tour, and it was all too much for his older constitution.

Sad to lose old Thunder-fingers ....

geoff

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 by: Norbert K - Thu, 23 Jun 2022 13:07 UTC

On Wednesday, June 22, 2022 at 5:52:07 PM UTC-7, geoff wrote:
> On 23/06/2022 11:08 am, Norbert K wrote:
> > On Wednesday, June 22, 2022 at 3:28:12 PM UTC-7, geoff wrote:
> >> On 23/06/2022 12:25 am, Norbert K wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday, June 21, 2022 at 7:28:52 PM UTC-4, geoff wrote:
> >>>> On 21/06/2022 10:29 pm, Norbert K wrote:
> >>>>> On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 10:38:38 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> >>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vMpgKFNu5A
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "'Four and Twenty Hours' sounds like a Christmas song that has come out early...way too early. I knew it was the Ivy League because I could hear the singer's nose scraping against the mic."
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Entwistle was always funny and ungenerous with his praise.
> >>>> He should be the one to talk about noses !
> >>>>
> >>>> And in the end it was his nose that was his undoing ;- (
> >>>>
> >>>> geoff
> >>>
> >>> "The Who have big enough noses to take the punches."
> >>>
> >>> -- Roger Daltrey, responding to criticism of the Who for accepting tour sponsorship from a beer company.
> >>>
> >> One fewer big nose since JE's snorted his last line and his heart
> >> stopped ;- (
> >>
> >> geoff
> >
> > They didn't merely lose a big & rather aristocratic nose when Entwistle died; they lost an essential part of their sound. Good as Pino Palladino is, he doesn't move the music along as Entwistle did.
> >
> > All sorts of stories about Entwistle came out after his death, but I -- in spite of all the drug fans I've been acquainted with -- would never have guessed he was seriously into coke. He seemed mellow and humorous in a sardonic sort of way.
> >
> >
> I don't think he had been for some time, and maybe 'out of practice'
> which was the problem. Possibly thought he needed some sort of booster
> for the upcoming tour, and it was all too much for his older constitution..
>
> Sad to lose old Thunder-fingers ....
>
> geoff

No kidding. It's also unfortunate that his continued development as a bassist though the 80s & 90s was not documented on Who albums.

"We insisted that in the Schlitz commercial from the 1982 tour, at no point did it say we drank Schlitz beer. I've never drunk a glass of beer in my life. I had a sip once as a kid, and it was shit. But if someone wants me to sponsor Remy-Martin, I'll jump on it. I feel I still have my integrity.. When I tour, it costs me money, and I don't give a fuck if it comes from Schlitz. It enables me to play."

-- Thunderfingers

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On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 9:07:39 AM UTC-4, Norbert K wrote:

I've never drunk a glass of beer in my life. I had a sip once as a kid, and it was shit.

I agree. I don't understand the attraction of beer.

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On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 8:16:06 AM UTC-7, Bruce wrote:
> On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 9:07:39 AM UTC-4, Norbert K wrote:
>
> I've never drunk a glass of beer in my life. I had a sip once as a kid, and it was shit.
> I agree. I don't understand the attraction of beer.

I don't understand the attraction of Bud Lite or Coors -- oh, wait, I do. It's what rednecks drink to announce their redneckhood. What little flavor it has is bad.

Whatever Entwistle tasted as a kid in Chiswick in the 50s was probably much better as far as techniques and ingredients than American Budweiser. Maybe he was too young. Maybe beer, even decent British ale, wasn't for him.

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 by: geoff - Thu, 23 Jun 2022 23:39 UTC

On 24/06/2022 3:16 am, Bruce wrote:
> On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 9:07:39 AM UTC-4, Norbert K wrote:
>
> I've never drunk a glass of beer in my life. I had a sip once as a kid, and it was shit.
>
> I agree. I don't understand the attraction of beer.

I do.

But one could be excused for not being so enthusiastic about mainstream
American beer.

Each to their own ...

geoff

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On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 4:39:09 PM UTC-7, geoff wrote:
> On 24/06/2022 3:16 am, Bruce wrote:
> > On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 9:07:39 AM UTC-4, Norbert K wrote:
> >
> > I've never drunk a glass of beer in my life. I had a sip once as a kid, and it was shit.
> >
> > I agree. I don't understand the attraction of beer.
> I do.
>
> But one could be excused for not being so enthusiastic about mainstream
> American beer.
>
> Each to their own ...
>
> geoff

People who think they don't like beer have usually only sampled bad ones.

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Subject: Re: The Who's John Entwistle Reviews the Singles of February 1967
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 by: Norbert K - Fri, 24 Jun 2022 11:46 UTC

On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 7:38:38 PM UTC-7, Bruce wrote:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vMpgKFNu5A

An on-topic observation about John Entwistle: Paul McCartney is the only other bass player for whom he has ever had a kind word. I read an interview in which he was asked for his thoughts on Jack Bruce; "I never much liked his sound," Entwistle said. How about Billy Sheehan? "He's a nice bloke" (how's that for damning with faint praise?). Was Entwistle influenced by James Jamerson? "Not really, because he was a proper bassist and I never considered myself a proper bassist." What did Entwistle make of the pop & slap bass style? "I'm bored stiff with it."

However: "McCartney, not so much technically, but the way he actually composes his parts is really good."

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