On 2022-03-04 8:05 p.m., tsbru...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, December 16, 2021 at 6:19:07 AM UTC-8, netk...@gmail.com wrote:
>> In article <a4b8e0cd-ca90-4923...@googlegroups.com>,
>> tsbru...@gmail.com <tsbru...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 1577 On Sunday, September 26, 2021 at 4:02:20 PM UTC-7, netk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> In article <bf6aea34-b815-49b8...@googlegroups.com>,
>>>> tsbr...@gmail.com <tsbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 3443 On Sunday, September 26, 2021 at 5:36:56 AM UTC-7,
>>> netk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> In article <4c6d3103-8d55-4bcf...@googlegroups.com>,
>>>>>> tsbr...@gmail.com <tsbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 3415 On Sunday, September 26, 2021 at 5:00:18 AM UTC-7,
>>>>> netk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> In article <3c62acc1-763b-4145...@googlegroups.com>,
>>>>>>>> tsbru...@gmail.com <tsbru...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 3356 On Thursday, September 16, 2021 at 2:40:22 PM UTC-7,
>>>>>>>>> netk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> In article <efa597e3-3886-4581...@googlegroups.com>,
>>>>>>>>>> tsbr...@gmail.com <tsbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 2130 S5 S05 S31 S31E3 S31E03 On Sunday, September 12, 2021 at
>>>>> 7:05:58 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> UTC-7, netk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <f6041473-3098-4526...@googlegroups.com>,
>>>>>>>>>>>> tsbr...@gmail.com <tsbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1577 On Sunday, July 18, 2021 at 7:23:06 PM UTC-7,
>>>>>>>>> netk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <8751ca16-cd6a-4b88...@googlegroups.com>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tsbr...@gmail.com <tsbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1546 On Sunday, July 18, 2021 at 5:03:32 PM UTC-7,
>>>>>>>>>>> netk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <cd2da5b3-b9e9-418b...@googlegroups.com>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tsbr...@gmail.com <tsbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1543, 1544 On Friday, July 2, 2021 at 6:52:42 AM UTC-7,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> netk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <962b5e9d-e614-4e5e...@googlegroups.com>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tsbru...@gmail.com <tsbru...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 121 On Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 11:08:46 PM UTC-7,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> netk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <ce1d5ba1-a9c3-496a...@googlegroups.com>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tsbr...@gmail.com <tsbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 119 On Saturday, May 1, 2021 at 6:14:39 PM UTC-7,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> netk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article
>>> <3e165a70-5957-4f1c...@googlegroups.com>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tsbr...@gmail.com <tsbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 121 On Saturday, May 1, 2021 at 3:37:23 PM UTC-7,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> netk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article
>>>>> <500fbde5-03eb-4e64...@googlegroups.com>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tsbru...@gmail.com <tsbru...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 117 On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 12:14:56
>>>>>>> AM UTC-7,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Daniel65 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tsbr...@gmail.com wrote on 31/3/21 3:46 pm:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3356 On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 1:47:52
>>>>>>>>> AM UTC-7,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Daniel65 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tsbr...@gmail.com wrote on 27/3/21
>>> 1:21 am:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2726On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 3:24:02
>>>>>>>>> AM UTC-7,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> netk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article
>>>>>>>>>>> <3f476708-0b2e-4733...@googlegroups.com>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tsbr...@gmail.com
>>>>> <tsbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> S5E3 2715On Tuesday, February
>>> 9, 2021 at
>>>>>>>>> 7:41:33
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AM UTC-8,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> netk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article
>>>>>>>>>>> <a6a101ea-009b-4430...@googlegroups.com>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tsbr...@gmail.com
>>>>>>> <tsbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 994 On Saturday, May 1, 2010
>>> at 8:23:36
>>>>>>>>>>> PM UTC-7,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hornplayer9599 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Doctor wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article
>>>>>>>>> <XrGdnVAytvJvRUHW...@giganews.com>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hornplayer9599
>>>>>>> <Hornpla...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Victory of the Daleks is still in
>>>>>>>>> its first
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> showing here on BBC America.
>>>>>>> Reading the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> previous
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reviews from you guys somewhat
>>>>>>>>>>> prepared me for a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rather sub-par story....but IMHO,
>>>>>>>>>>> based on what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've had to endure to this
>>>>> point, if I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> had written
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this story, I would be
>>>>> ashamed to put
>>>>>>>>>>> my name on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- What's considered psychotic
>>>>>>>>>>> behavior anywhere
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> else is company policy here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --The Management
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rate it out of 10.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4/10...and I'm probably being
>>>>>>>>>>> generous....probably
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because I'm a fan of the Spitfire
>>>>>>>>>>>>> fighter...but being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> able to take them into
>>> space, and have
>>>>>>>>>>> the pilots
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> remaining calm while flying around
>>>>>>> the moon
>>>>>>>>>>>>> attacking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Dalek saucer is an incredible
>>>>>>> stretch.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How were the propellers working
>>>>>>> with no air
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to grab?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly his nit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Great minds think alike.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And then there are fools!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You appeared to agree with
>>> Hornplayer and
>>>>>>>>> I that the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Spitfires'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> propellers working in a vacuum
>>> was a nit,
>>>>>>>>> indicating
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that both
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our minds were great on that occasion!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tim, you are missing the bigger
>>>>> question, the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> bigger nit,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happening BEFORE the Spitfires'
>>>>> propellers can
>>>>>>>>>>>>> work, Tim??
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you typing about the lack of
>>>>> oxygen for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Spitfires'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> engines up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in space?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *BINGO* !!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, how can the wings achieve lift?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How were the space planes deployed so fast?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Doctor IIRC.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He stuffed the planes in his TARDIS?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He made them space worthy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How did he do so, let alone so fast?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Check Victory of the Daleks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What will I see?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your answer!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >From http://www.chakoteya.net/DoctorWho/31-3.htm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Laboratory]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CHURCHILL: Bracewell, put the gun down.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BRACEWELL: My life is a lie, and I choose to end it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AMY: In your own time, Paisley boy, because right
>>> now we need
>>>>>>>>>>> your help.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BRACEWELL: But those creatures, my Ironsides, they made
>>>>>>> me? I can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> remember things. So many things. The last war. The squalor
>>>>>>>>> and the mud
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the awful, awful misery of it all. What am I?
>>> What am I?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CHURCHILL: What you are, sir, is either on our side or
>>>>>>>>> theirs. Now, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't give a damn if you're a machine, Bracewell. Are
>>>>> you a man?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AMY: Listen to me. I understand. Really, I do. Look,
>>>>> there is a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spaceship up there lighting up London like a
>>> Christmas tree.
>>>>>>>>> Thousands
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of people will die tonight if we don't stop it, and
>>>>> you are the
>>>>>>>>>>> only one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who can help take it down.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BRACEWELL: I am?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AMY: You're alien technology. You're as clever as
>>> the Daleks
>>>>>>>>> are, so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> start thinking. What about rockets? You got
>>> rockets? Because
>>>>>>>>> you said
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gravity whatsits, hypersonic flight, some kind of missile.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CHURCHILL: It isn't a fireworks party, Miss Pond. We
>>>>> need proper
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tactical. Oh. A missile. Or.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AMY: Or what?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CHURCHILL: We could send something up there, you say?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BRACEWELL: Yes, well, with a gravity bubble, yes, but.
>>>>>>>>> Theoretically
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's possible that we could actually send something
>>>>> into space.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CHURCHILL: Bracewell, it's time to think big.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The above gave me the impression that Bracewell's gravity
>>>>>>>>> bubble idea
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was just at its beginning stages, very far from
>>>>> implementation.
>>>>>>>>>>> I would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> therefore have expected it to take MONTHS to create a full
>>>>>>>>>>> scale gravity
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bubble generator capable of use on the battlefield. Also,
>>>>>>>>> the Doctor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was up on the Dalek ship arguing with them at the time
>>>>>>>>> Bracewell was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> getting his gravity bubble idea.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Spaceship]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DALEK: All hail the new Daleks. All hail the new Daleks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WHITE: Yes, you are inferior.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DALEK: Yes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WHITE: Then prepare.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DALEKS: We are ready.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WHITE: Cleanse the unclean. Total obliteration.
>>> Disintegrate.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (The new neon coloured Daleks exterminate the old
>>> khaki and
>>>>>>>>>>> gold ones.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DOCTOR: Blimey. What do you do to the ones who mess up?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WHITE: You are the Doctor. You must be exterminated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (The Doctor holds out his Jammy Dodger again.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DOCTOR: Don't mess with me, sweetheart.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Map room]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MAN [OC]: More Nazi bombers approaching in strike
>>> formation.
>>>>>>>>>>> Incendiary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bombs have hit the East End of London.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CHURCHILL: At last. Are they ready?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BRACEWELL: I hope so. But in the meantime, this will pick
>>>>>>> up Dalek
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transmissions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Bracewell's rigged radar scanner picks up a
>>> picture of the
>>>>>>>>>>> White Dalek
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the Doctor.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WHITE [on screen]: We are the paradigm of a new
>>> Dalek race.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AMY: It's him. It's the Doctor.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WHITE [on screen]: Scientist, Strategist.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I see nothing in the above paragraph explaining how
>>>>>>>>> Bracewell got the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gravity bubbles ready just 2 scenes after he suggested
>>>>> them as a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> THEORETICAL means of getting into space!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And the doctor implemented it!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He was up in the Dalek spaceship at the time. How could
>>>>> he possibly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have helped get the gravity bubbles ready?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unseen scene.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What happened during the unseen scene, and how do you know
>>>>> that such a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> scene occurred?
>>>>>>>>>>>> About how the Spitfires got into space?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. How they got into space, and how the gravity bubbles got from
>>>>>>>>>>> Bracewell's THEORITICAL concept to deployment in less than
>>> 10 minutes!
>>>>>>>>>> By the Doctor !
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But the Doctor was on the Dalek ship at the time!
>>>>>>>> Trying to stop the Daleks!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Therefore, he couldn't possibly have been in London to help Bracewell
>>>>>>> get his gravity bubbles from theory to deployment in under 10 minutes!
>>>>>> Unless be gave Bracewell a very simply idea!
>>>>>
>>>>> But the Doctor couldn't physically help Bracewell implement the gravity
>>>>> bubble idea! Gravity bubbles sound very complicated to make!
>>>> This is the Doctor!!
>>>
>>> I don't recall the Doctor even talking to Bracewell during the less than
>>> 10 minutes it took him to advance gravity bubbles from
>>> his THEORETICAL concept to deployment!
>> But we never saw!
>
> Hence my asking how Bracewell got from theory to deployment in under 10 minutes!
>
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