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* The Four SeasonsDan Koren
`* Re: The Four SeasonsFrank Berger
 +* Re: The Four SeasonsNéstor Castiglione
 |`- Re: The Four SeasonsFrank Berger
 `* Re: The Four SeasonsAl Eisner
  `- Re: The Four SeasonsDan Koren

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 by: Frank Berger - Fri, 4 Mar 2022 17:37 UTC

On 3/4/2022 1:56 AM, Dan Koren wrote:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=510CKJdTfeA

Wonderful. Moving me to tears, even. I have a recording of this titled "Las Cuatro Estaciones portenas," which translates in google to "Four Seasons of Buenos Aires." The word "portenas" means a resident of a port city, but is common usage means Buenos Aires. I thought that was interesting. Sorry about the lack of punctuation.

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 by: Néstor Castiglione - Fri, 4 Mar 2022 18:58 UTC

On Friday, March 4, 2022 at 9:37:22 AM UTC-8, Frank Berger wrote:
> On 3/4/2022 1:56 AM, Dan Koren wrote:
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=510CKJdTfeA
>
> Wonderful. Moving me to tears, even. I have a recording of this titled "Las Cuatro Estaciones portenas," which translates in google to "Four Seasons of Buenos Aires." The word "portenas" means a resident of a port city, but is common usage means Buenos Aires. I thought that was interesting. Sorry about the lack of punctuation.

The RAE pedant in me can't help but point out that "porteño/a" has a wider meaning than resident of a port town. The suffix "-eño/a" corresponds to the English "-ian" which denotes relation to, belonging to, or similarity to, as well as profession and where from. Within Argentina, "porteño/a," being a long established "lunfardo" slang, is a commonly used term to refer to people, things, and ideas from Buenos Aires. Elsewhere in Latin America and Spain, however, "porteño/a" refers strictly to people, things, and ideas from any port town. In Chile the term is also widely recognized as a shorthand for all things Buenos Aires, but the further north you go, the less likely people will understand it as such.

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 by: Frank Berger - Fri, 4 Mar 2022 19:41 UTC

On 3/4/2022 1:58 PM, Néstor Castiglione wrote:
> On Friday, March 4, 2022 at 9:37:22 AM UTC-8, Frank Berger wrote:
>> On 3/4/2022 1:56 AM, Dan Koren wrote:
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=510CKJdTfeA
>>
>> Wonderful. Moving me to tears, even. I have a recording of this titled "Las Cuatro Estaciones portenas," which translates in google to "Four Seasons of Buenos Aires." The word "portenas" means a resident of a port city, but is common usage means Buenos Aires. I thought that was interesting. Sorry about the lack of punctuation.
>
>
> The RAE pedant in me can't help but point out that "porteño/a" has a wider meaning than resident of a port town. The suffix "-eño/a" corresponds to the English "-ian" which denotes relation to, belonging to, or similarity to, as well as profession and where from. Within Argentina, "porteño/a," being a long established "lunfardo" slang, is a commonly used term to refer to people, things, and ideas from Buenos Aires. Elsewhere in Latin America and Spain, however, "porteño/a" refers strictly to people, things, and ideas from any port town. In Chile the term is also widely recognized as a shorthand for all things Buenos Aires, but the further north you go, the less likely people will understand it as such.

Thanks for the clarification.

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 by: Al Eisner - Sat, 5 Mar 2022 21:06 UTC

On Fri, 4 Mar 2022, Frank Berger wrote:

> On 3/4/2022 1:56 AM, Dan Koren wrote:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=510CKJdTfeA
>
> Wonderful. Moving me to tears, even. I have a recording of this titled "Las
> Cuatro Estaciones portenas," which translates in google to "Four Seasons of
> Buenos Aires." The word "portenas" means a resident of a port city, but is
> common usage means Buenos Aires. I thought that was interesting. Sorry
> about the lack of punctuation.

Piazolla with Seoul? Not a big fan of the composer, but this was very
enjoyable, well worth hearing, and I especially liked the violinist.
Thanks to Frank for identifying what this was; I would not otherwise
have gone to the link.
--
Al Eisner

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 by: Dan Koren - Sat, 5 Mar 2022 23:15 UTC

On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 1:06:16 PM UTC-8, Al Eisner wrote:
> On Fri, 4 Mar 2022, Frank Berger wrote:
>
> > On 3/4/2022 1:56 AM, Dan Koren wrote:
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=510CKJdTfeA
> >
> > Wonderful. Moving me to tears, even. I have a recording of this titled "Las
> > Cuatro Estaciones portenas," which translates in google to "Four Seasons of
> > Buenos Aires." The word "portenas" means a resident of a port city, but is
> > common usage means Buenos Aires. I thought that was interesting. Sorry
> > about the lack of punctuation.
> Piazolla with Seoul? Not a big fan of the composer, but this was very
> enjoyable, well worth hearing, and I especially liked the violinist.
> Thanks to Frank for identifying what this was; I would not otherwise
> have gone to the link.
> --

Most composers have already
moved to Seoul. The classical
music life in South Korea now
surpasses the rest of the world.
The number of South Korean
classical music channels on
YouTune is simply astounding.

dk

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