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* Bracing BrucknerRicardo Jimenez
+- Re: Bracing BrucknerDan Koren
`* Re: Bracing BrucknerFrank Berger
 `* Re: Bracing BrucknerBob Harper
  `* Re: Bracing BrucknerFrank Berger
   `* Re: Bracing BrucknerBob Harper
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 by: Ricardo Jimenez - Thu, 14 Apr 2022 19:15 UTC

From a seemingly unlikely source: Stanislaw Skrowaczerski and the
Rundfunk-Sinfonieorchester Saarbrücken. I listened on Spotify to the
entire set, which includes besides nos 1-9, the Symphonies 0, 00,
Overture in g minor and the conductors own arrangement for strings of
the Adagio of the F Major String Quintet. The sound produced is out
of this world and the performances are rhythmically alive. I have
never enjoyed Bruckner more. However, I made the mistake of not
taking a break between symphonies to listen to something else.
Bruckner's sound world tires the ears after a while. My impression is
that brass predominates 50% of the time, strings 40% with woodwinds
only 10%. Woodwind solos don't seem to last more than a few bars. But
those brass outbursts can be very exciting.

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 by: Dan Koren - Thu, 14 Apr 2022 20:39 UTC

On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 12:15:53 PM UTC-7, Ricardo Jimenez wrote:
>
> From a seemingly unlikely source: Stanislaw Skrowaczerski and the
> Rundfunk-Sinfonieorchester Saarbrücken. I listened on Spotify to the
> entire set, which includes besides nos 1-9, the Symphonies 0, 00,
> Overture in g minor and the conductors own arrangement for strings of
> the Adagio of the F Major String Quintet. The sound produced is out
> of this world and the performances are rhythmically alive. I have
> never enjoyed Bruckner more. However, I made the mistake of not
> taking a break between symphonies to listen to something else.
> Bruckner's sound world tires the ears after a while. My impression is
> that brass predominates 50% of the time, strings 40% with woodwinds
> only 10%. Woodwind solos don't seem to last more than a few bars. But
> those brass outbursts can be very exciting.

As we all know, brass and winds contribute to
pollution and to global warming. They also help
spread airborne infections and contagious
diseases. And they are very, very noisy and
loud. They should be outlawed! ;-)

The brass should be recycled to improve
and lower the cost of residential plumbing.

dk

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 by: Frank Berger - Fri, 15 Apr 2022 18:02 UTC

On 4/14/2022 3:15 PM, Ricardo Jimenez wrote:
> From a seemingly unlikely source: Stanislaw Skrowaczerski and the
> Rundfunk-Sinfonieorchester Saarbrücken. I listened on Spotify to the
> entire set, which includes besides nos 1-9, the Symphonies 0, 00,
> Overture in g minor and the conductors own arrangement for strings of
> the Adagio of the F Major String Quintet. The sound produced is out
> of this world and the performances are rhythmically alive. I have
> never enjoyed Bruckner more. However, I made the mistake of not
> taking a break between symphonies to listen to something else.
> Bruckner's sound world tires the ears after a while. My impression is
> that brass predominates 50% of the time, strings 40% with woodwinds
> only 10%. Woodwind solos don't seem to last more than a few bars. But
> those brass outbursts can be very exciting.

Why unlikely? These performances have been well known and generally well received for over 20 years.

Wikipedia calls Skrowaczewski a Polish-American. But he was born in Lviv, which we know is today in western Ukraine.

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 by: Bob Harper - Fri, 15 Apr 2022 18:32 UTC

On 4/15/22 11:02 AM, Frank Berger wrote:
> On 4/14/2022 3:15 PM, Ricardo Jimenez wrote:
>>  From a seemingly unlikely source:  Stanislaw Skrowaczerski and the
>> Rundfunk-Sinfonieorchester Saarbrücken.  I listened on Spotify to the
>> entire set, which includes besides nos 1-9, the Symphonies 0, 00,
>> Overture in g minor and the conductors own arrangement for strings of
>> the Adagio of the F Major String Quintet.  The sound produced is out
>> of this world and the performances are rhythmically alive.  I have
>> never enjoyed Bruckner more.  However, I made the mistake of not
>> taking a break between symphonies to listen to something else.
>> Bruckner's sound world tires the ears after a while.  My impression is
>> that brass predominates 50% of the time, strings 40% with woodwinds
>> only 10%.  Woodwind solos don't seem to last more than a few bars. But
>> those brass outbursts can be very exciting.
>
>
> Why unlikely? These performances have been well known and generally well
> received for over 20 years.
>
> Wikipedia calls Skrowaczewski a Polish-American.  But he was born in
> Lviv, which we know is today in western Ukraine.

Someone fixed it:

Skrowaczewski was born in Lwów, Second Polish Republic (now Lviv, Ukraine).

These are, indeed, fine performance.

Bob Harper

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 by: Frank Berger - Fri, 15 Apr 2022 19:47 UTC

On 4/15/2022 2:32 PM, Bob Harper wrote:
> On 4/15/22 11:02 AM, Frank Berger wrote:
>> On 4/14/2022 3:15 PM, Ricardo Jimenez wrote:
>>>  From a seemingly unlikely source:  Stanislaw Skrowaczerski and the
>>> Rundfunk-Sinfonieorchester Saarbrücken.  I listened on Spotify to the
>>> entire set, which includes besides nos 1-9, the Symphonies 0, 00,
>>> Overture in g minor and the conductors own arrangement for strings of
>>> the Adagio of the F Major String Quintet.  The sound produced is out
>>> of this world and the performances are rhythmically alive.  I have
>>> never enjoyed Bruckner more.  However, I made the mistake of not
>>> taking a break between symphonies to listen to something else.
>>> Bruckner's sound world tires the ears after a while.  My impression is
>>> that brass predominates 50% of the time, strings 40% with woodwinds
>>> only 10%.  Woodwind solos don't seem to last more than a few bars. But
>>> those brass outbursts can be very exciting.
>>
>>
>> Why unlikely? These performances have been well known and generally well received for over 20 years.
>>
>> Wikipedia calls Skrowaczewski a Polish-American.  But he was born in Lviv, which we know is today in western Ukraine.
>
> Someone fixed it:
>
> Skrowaczewski was born in Lwów, Second Polish Republic (now Lviv, Ukraine).
>
> These are, indeed, fine performance.
>
> Bob Harper

If you were born in Lwów when it was part of the Second Polish Republic, I don't think it would be incorrect to say you were born in Lviv.

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 by: Bob Harper - Fri, 15 Apr 2022 22:43 UTC

On 4/15/22 12:47 PM, Frank Berger wrote:
> On 4/15/2022 2:32 PM, Bob Harper wrote:
>> On 4/15/22 11:02 AM, Frank Berger wrote:
>>> On 4/14/2022 3:15 PM, Ricardo Jimenez wrote:
>>>>  From a seemingly unlikely source:  Stanislaw Skrowaczerski and the
>>>> Rundfunk-Sinfonieorchester Saarbrücken.  I listened on Spotify to the
>>>> entire set, which includes besides nos 1-9, the Symphonies 0, 00,
>>>> Overture in g minor and the conductors own arrangement for strings of
>>>> the Adagio of the F Major String Quintet.  The sound produced is out
>>>> of this world and the performances are rhythmically alive.  I have
>>>> never enjoyed Bruckner more.  However, I made the mistake of not
>>>> taking a break between symphonies to listen to something else.
>>>> Bruckner's sound world tires the ears after a while.  My impression is
>>>> that brass predominates 50% of the time, strings 40% with woodwinds
>>>> only 10%.  Woodwind solos don't seem to last more than a few bars. But
>>>> those brass outbursts can be very exciting.
>>>
>>>
>>> Why unlikely? These performances have been well known and generally
>>> well received for over 20 years.
>>>
>>> Wikipedia calls Skrowaczewski a Polish-American.  But he was born in
>>> Lviv, which we know is today in western Ukraine.
>>
>> Someone fixed it:
>>
>> Skrowaczewski was born in Lwów, Second Polish Republic (now Lviv,
>> Ukraine).
>>
>> These are, indeed, fine performance.
>>
>> Bob Harper
>
> If you were born in Lwów when it was part of the Second Polish Republic,
> I don't think it would be incorrect to say you were born in Lviv.
>

Yep. Same place, different name. Happened a lot in that part of the world.

Bob Harper

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 by: Dan Koren - Sat, 16 Apr 2022 00:20 UTC

On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 3:43:11 PM UTC-7, Bob Harper wrote:
> On 4/15/22 12:47 PM, Frank Berger wrote:
> >
> > If you were born in Lwów when it was part of the Second Polish Republic,
> > I don't think it would be incorrect to say you were born in Lviv.
> >
> Yep. Same place, different name. Happened a lot in that part of the world..
>

Not different names -- different transliterations.

dk

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 by: Bob Harper - Sat, 16 Apr 2022 05:44 UTC

On 4/15/22 5:20 PM, Dan Koren wrote:
> On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 3:43:11 PM UTC-7, Bob Harper wrote:
>> On 4/15/22 12:47 PM, Frank Berger wrote:
>>>
>>> If you were born in Lwów when it was part of the Second Polish Republic,
>>> I don't think it would be incorrect to say you were born in Lviv.
>>>
>> Yep. Same place, different name. Happened a lot in that part of the world.
>>
>
> Not different names -- different transliterations.
>
> dk

Fair enough.

Bob Harper

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