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* Re: Ginsberg's Rohrshach poemsW-Dockery
`* Re: Ginsberg's Rohrshach poemsGeneral-Zod
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 by: W-Dockery - Tue, 31 May 2022 13:15 UTC

Zod wrote:

> Will Dockery wrote:

>>

>> Not my favorite Allen Ginsberg work, as I mentioned earlier.
>
> Important work in a very obscure genre though...

"Gay Erotica" is no longer obscure now, of course.

🙂

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 by: General-Zod - Tue, 31 May 2022 19:00 UTC

Will Dockery wrote:
> Zod wrote:
>> Will Dockery wrote:

>>>

>>> Not my favorite Allen Ginsberg work, as I mentioned earlier.
>>
>> Important work in a very obscure genre though...

> "Gay Erotica" is no longer obscure now, of course.

> 🙂

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erotic_literature#20th_century

***********20th century
Although D. H. Lawrence could be regarded as a writer of love poems, he usually dealt in the less romantic aspects of love such as sexual frustration or the sex act itself. Ezra Pound, in his Literary Essays, complained of Lawrence's interest in his own "disagreeable sensations" but praised him for his "low-life narrative". This is a reference to Lawrence's dialect poems akin to the Scots poems of Robert Burns, in which he reproduced the language and concerns of the people of Nottinghamshire from his youth. He called one collection of poems Pansies partly for the simple ephemeral nature of the verse but also a pun on the French word panser, to dress or bandage a wound. "The Noble Englishman" and "Don't Look at Me" were removed from the official edition of Pansies on the grounds of obscenity; Lawrence felt wounded by this.[citation needed]

From the age of 17, Gavin Ewart acquired a reputation for wit and accomplishment through such works as "Phallus in Wonderland" and "Poems and Songs", which appeared in 1939 and was his first collection. The intelligence and casually flamboyant virtuosity with which he framed his often humorous commentaries on human behaviour made his work invariably entertaining and interesting. The irreverent eroticism for which his poetry is noted resulted in W H Smith's banning of his "The Pleasures of the Flesh" (1966) from their shops.[citation needed]

Canadian poet John Glassco wrote Squire Hardman (1967), a long poem in heroic couplets, purporting to be a reprint of an 18th-century poem by George Colman the Younger, on the theme of flagellation.[25]

Italian Una Chi distinguished herself among other publications for coldly analytical prose and for the crudeness of the stories.******************

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 by: W-Dockery - Tue, 31 May 2022 19:31 UTC

General-Zod wrote:

> Will Dockery wrote:
>> Zod wrote:
>>> Will Dockery wrote:

>>>>

>>>> Not my favorite Allen Ginsberg work, as I mentioned earlier.
>>>
>>> Important work in a very obscure genre though...

>> "Gay Erotica" is no longer obscure now, of course.

>> 🙂

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erotic_literature#20th_century

> ***********20th century
> Although D. H. Lawrence could be regarded as a writer of love poems, he usually dealt in the less romantic aspects of love such as sexual frustration or the sex act itself. Ezra Pound, in his Literary Essays, complained of Lawrence's interest in his own "disagreeable sensations" but praised him for his "low-life narrative". This is a reference to Lawrence's dialect poems akin to the Scots poems of Robert Burns, in which he reproduced the language and concerns of the people of Nottinghamshire from his youth. He called one collection of poems Pansies partly for the simple ephemeral nature of the verse but also a pun on the French word panser, to dress or bandage a wound. "The Noble Englishman" and "Don't Look at Me" were removed from the official edition of Pansies on the grounds of obscenity; Lawrence felt wounded by this.[citation needed]

> From the age of 17, Gavin Ewart acquired a reputation for wit and accomplishment through such works as "Phallus in Wonderland" and "Poems and Songs", which appeared in 1939 and was his first collection. The intelligence and casually flamboyant virtuosity with which he framed his often humorous commentaries on human behaviour made his work invariably entertaining and interesting. The irreverent eroticism for which his poetry is noted resulted in W H Smith's banning of his "The Pleasures of the Flesh" (1966) from their shops.[citation needed]

> Canadian poet John Glassco wrote Squire Hardman (1967), a long poem in heroic couplets, purporting to be a reprint of an 18th-century poem by George Colman the Younger, on the theme of flagellation.[25]

> Italian Una Chi distinguished herself among other publications for coldly analytical prose and for the crudeness of the stories.******************

Good find, Zod.

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