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I’ve started exploring these recordings - I’ve heard and really enjoyed the Mörike lieder and just begun the Göthe songs. Obviously the voices are different - some more appealing than others. But the quality of the music is fabulous and, even when I don’t much care for the singers, I’m grateful to the series for helping me discover more of this music.

I just wondered if anyone else knows the series, and whether anyone has any views on the high points.

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 by: Dan Koren - Thu, 28 Apr 2022 16:12 UTC

On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 1:57:47 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
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> I just wondered if anyone else knows the series, and
> whether anyone has any views on the high points.

The "high points" appear to be on the very bottom of
the Marianas Trench.

I prefer reading Mörike to listening to these lieder.

dk

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On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 9:13:12 AM UTC-7, dan....@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 1:57:47 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> >
> > I just wondered if anyone else knows the series, and
> > whether anyone has any views on the high points.
> The "high points" appear to be on the very bottom of
> the Marianas Trench.
>
> I prefer reading Mörike to listening to these lieder.
>
> dk

(Gasp!) Blasphemy of blasphemies. You only say that because you've never heard...

(Youtube upload):

Tiana Lemnitz; "In der Frühe"; MORIKE-LIEDER; Hugo Wolf

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 by: gggg gggg - Thu, 28 Apr 2022 16:42 UTC

On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 9:39:32 AM UTC-7, gggg gggg wrote:
> On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 9:13:12 AM UTC-7, dan....@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 1:57:47 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> > >
> > > I just wondered if anyone else knows the series, and
> > > whether anyone has any views on the high points.
> > The "high points" appear to be on the very bottom of
> > the Marianas Trench.
> >
> > I prefer reading Mörike to listening to these lieder.
> >
> > dk
> (Gasp!) Blasphemy of blasphemies. You only say that because you've never heard...
>
> (Youtube upload):
>
> Tiana Lemnitz; "In der Frühe"; MORIKE-LIEDER; Hugo Wolf

Or this...

(Y. upload):

Irmgard Seefried; "Das verlassene Mägdlein"; MORIKE-LIEDER; Hugo Wolf

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 by: Dan Koren - Thu, 28 Apr 2022 16:44 UTC

On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 9:39:32 AM UTC-7, gggg gggg wrote:
> On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 9:13:12 AM UTC-7, dan....@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 1:57:47 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> > >
> > > I just wondered if anyone else knows the series, and
> > > whether anyone has any views on the high points.
> > The "high points" appear to be on the very bottom of
> > the Marianas Trench.
> >
> > I prefer reading Mörike to listening to these lieder.
> >
> > dk
> (Gasp!) Blasphemy of blasphemies. You only say that because you've never heard...
>
> (Youtube upload):
>
> Tiana Lemnitz; "In der Frühe"; MORIKE-LIEDER; Hugo Wolf

Link please? Did you notice
none of your "YT upload"
posts have actual links ?!?

You don't appear able to
use a computer unless
the quote bot steps in.

dk

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 by: Dan Koren - Thu, 28 Apr 2022 16:45 UTC

On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 1:57:47 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
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> I’ve started exploring these recordings -
> I’ve heard and really enjoyed the Mörike
> lieder and just begun the Göthe songs.

What kind of marble is used for these
recordings? Or are they ceramic tablets?

dk

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On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 9:44:08 AM UTC-7, dan....@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 9:39:32 AM UTC-7, gggg gggg wrote:
> > On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 9:13:12 AM UTC-7, dan....@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 1:57:47 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I just wondered if anyone else knows the series, and
> > > > whether anyone has any views on the high points.
> > > The "high points" appear to be on the very bottom of
> > > the Marianas Trench.
> > >
> > > I prefer reading Mörike to listening to these lieder.
> > >
> > > dk
> > (Gasp!) Blasphemy of blasphemies. You only say that because you've never heard...
> >
> > (Youtube upload):
> >
> > Tiana Lemnitz; "In der Frühe"; MORIKE-LIEDER; Hugo Wolf
> Link please? Did you notice
> none of your "YT upload"
> posts have actual links ?!?

I don't do floors,

Windows,

Or spoon feeding.

Sorry.

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On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 1:57:47 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> I’ve started exploring these recordings - I’ve heard and really enjoyed the Mörike lieder and just begun the Göthe songs. Obviously the voices are different - some more appealing than others. But the quality of the music is fabulous and, even when I don’t much care for the singers, I’m grateful to the series for helping me discover more of this music.
>
> I just wondered if anyone else knows the series, and whether anyone has any views on the high points.

For those into historical singers, the following may be of interest:

https://archive.org/details/hugowolfsociety10000unse

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On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 1:17:30 PM UTC-7, gggg gggg wrote:
> On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 1:57:47 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> > I’ve started exploring these recordings - I’ve heard and really enjoyed the Mörike lieder and just begun the Göthe songs.. Obviously the voices are different - some more appealing than others. But the quality of the music is fabulous and, even when I don’t much care for the singers, I’m grateful to the series for helping me discover more of this music.
> >
> > I just wondered if anyone else knows the series, and whether anyone has any views on the high points.
> For those into historical singers, the following may be of interest:
>
> https://archive.org/details/hugowolfsociety10000unse

Once you listen to Rethberg's "MÜH’VOLL KOMM’ ICH UND BELADEN", you'll realize that you don't have to die...............................................

To go to Heaven.

Uh-uh.

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On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 1:19:56 PM UTC-7, gggg gggg wrote:
>
> Once you listen to Rethberg's
> "MÜH’VOLL KOMM’ ICH UND
> BELADEN", you'll realize that
> you don't have to die..............................................
>
> To go to Heaven.

I have no interest in going to Heaven,
which is nothing but marketing hype.

You know the saying "Good girls go to
Heaven, bad girls go everywhere". I'd
rather be where the bad girls are!

dk

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On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 9:17:30 PM UTC+1, gggg gggg wrote:
> On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 1:57:47 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> > I’ve started exploring these recordings - I’ve heard and really enjoyed the Mörike lieder and just begun the Göthe songs.. Obviously the voices are different - some more appealing than others. But the quality of the music is fabulous and, even when I don’t much care for the singers, I’m grateful to the series for helping me discover more of this music.
> >
> > I just wondered if anyone else knows the series, and whether anyone has any views on the high points.
> For those into historical singers, the following may be of interest:
>
> https://archive.org/details/hugowolfsociety10000unse

I started listening to Wolf again because, while exploring some lieder by Wolfgang Rihm, I thought to myself “Wolf, or Eisler, or Webern could have written this!” Well I was wrong about Wolf, his style is clearly from a long time ago, though I do think there’s something modern sounding about the chromaticism of some of them which is interesting - more modern sounding than Busoni IMO.

I think it’s just nice to have all his lieder work collected together in that Stone Records series, and well recorded. I didn’t realise there were so many songs by him. The singers are extremely variable, probably none of them are really top drawer. But having so many singers is also quite pleasant.

I’d forgotten about the Hugo Wolf Society recordings.

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On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 8:18:13 AM UTC+1, Mandryka wrote:
> On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 9:17:30 PM UTC+1, gggg gggg wrote:
> > On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 1:57:47 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> > > I’ve started exploring these recordings - I’ve heard and really enjoyed the Mörike lieder and just begun the Göthe songs. Obviously the voices are different - some more appealing than others. But the quality of the music is fabulous and, even when I don’t much care for the singers, I’m grateful to the series for helping me discover more of this music.
> > >
> > > I just wondered if anyone else knows the series, and whether anyone has any views on the high points.
> > For those into historical singers, the following may be of interest:
> >
> > https://archive.org/details/hugowolfsociety10000unse
> I started listening to Wolf again because, while exploring some lieder by Wolfgang Rihm, I thought to myself “Wolf, or Eisler, or Webern could have written this!” Well I was wrong about Wolf, his style is clearly from a long time ago, though I do think there’s something modern sounding about the chromaticism of some of them which is interesting - more modern sounding than Busoni IMO.
>
>
> I think it’s just nice to have all his lieder work collected together in that Stone Records series, and well recorded. I didn’t realise there were so many songs by him. The singers are extremely variable, probably none of them are really top drawer. But having so many singers is also quite pleasant.
>
> I’d forgotten about the Hugo Wolf Society recordings.

Oh by the way, one consequence of the series is that it has led me to explore other recordings, make other discoveries. I’m very glad to have found Pregardien’s Eichendorff lieder, for example. And although I’ve known the Schreier / Flott Italian Songbook since it came out, I don’t think I’ve ever enjoyed it as much as recently.

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On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 8:33:06 AM UTC+1, Mandryka wrote:
> On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 8:18:13 AM UTC+1, Mandryka wrote:
> > On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 9:17:30 PM UTC+1, gggg gggg wrote:
> > > On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 1:57:47 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> > > > I’ve started exploring these recordings - I’ve heard and really enjoyed the Mörike lieder and just begun the Göthe songs. Obviously the voices are different - some more appealing than others. But the quality of the music is fabulous and, even when I don’t much care for the singers, I’m grateful to the series for helping me discover more of this music.
> > > >
> > > > I just wondered if anyone else knows the series, and whether anyone has any views on the high points.
> > > For those into historical singers, the following may be of interest:
> > >
> > > https://archive.org/details/hugowolfsociety10000unse
> > I started listening to Wolf again because, while exploring some lieder by Wolfgang Rihm, I thought to myself “Wolf, or Eisler, or Webern could have written this!” Well I was wrong about Wolf, his style is clearly from a long time ago, though I do think there’s something modern sounding about the chromaticism of some of them which is interesting - more modern sounding than Busoni IMO.
> >
> >
> > I think it’s just nice to have all his lieder work collected together in that Stone Records series, and well recorded. I didn’t realise there were so many songs by him. The singers are extremely variable, probably none of them are really top drawer. But having so many singers is also quite pleasant.
> >
> > I’d forgotten about the Hugo Wolf Society recordings.
> Oh by the way, one consequence of the series is that it has led me to explore other recordings, make other discoveries. I’m very glad to have found Pregardien’s Eichendorff lieder, for example. And although I’ve known the Schreier / Flott Italian Songbook since it came out, I don’t think I’ve ever enjoyed it as much as recently.

Prégardien sings Rihm, by the way - so maybe it’s not surprising I should warm to his approach.

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 by: gggg gggg - Fri, 29 Apr 2022 14:46 UTC

On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 1:57:47 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> I’ve started exploring these recordings - I’ve heard and really enjoyed the Mörike lieder and just begun the Göthe songs. Obviously the voices are different - some more appealing than others. But the quality of the music is fabulous and, even when I don’t much care for the singers, I’m grateful to the series for helping me discover more of this music.
>
> I just wondered if anyone else knows the series, and whether anyone has any views on the high points.

I don't know if the following has come out on cd yet:

https://www.discogs.com/release/12541330-Hugo-Wolf-Raucheisen-Lieder-In-Dokumentarischen-Aufnahmen-A-Chronicle-In-Sound

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On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 1:57:47 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> I’ve started exploring these recordings - I’ve heard and really enjoyed the Mörike lieder and just begun the Göthe songs. Obviously the voices are different - some more appealing than others. But the quality of the music is fabulous and, even when I don’t much care for the singers, I’m grateful to the series for helping me discover more of this music.
>
> I just wondered if anyone else knows the series, and whether anyone has any views on the high points.

For something more comprehensive, there is the 60+ cd box set " Raucheisen: Man at the Piano":

https://www.allmusic.com/search/all/Raucheisen%20man%20at%20the%20piano

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On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 1:57:47 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> I’ve started exploring these recordings - I’ve heard and really enjoyed the Mörike lieder and just begun the Göthe songs. Obviously the voices are different - some more appealing than others. But the quality of the music is fabulous and, even when I don’t much care for the singers, I’m grateful to the series for helping me discover more of this music.
>
> I just wondered if anyone else knows the series, and whether anyone has any views on the high points.

(Y. upload):

Christa Ludwig: 10 Lieder by Hugo Wolf

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On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 3:46:33 PM UTC+1, gggg gggg wrote:
> On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 1:57:47 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> > I’ve started exploring these recordings - I’ve heard and really enjoyed the Mörike lieder and just begun the Göthe songs.. Obviously the voices are different - some more appealing than others. But the quality of the music is fabulous and, even when I don’t much care for the singers, I’m grateful to the series for helping me discover more of this music.
> >
> > I just wondered if anyone else knows the series, and whether anyone has any views on the high points.
> I don't know if the following has come out on cd yet:
>
> https://www.discogs.com/release/12541330-Hugo-Wolf-Raucheisen-Lieder-In-Dokumentarischen-Aufnahmen-A-Chronicle-In-Sound

Yes, it has and I’m listening now, thanks.

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On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 9:19:56 PM UTC+1, gggg gggg wrote:
> On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 1:17:30 PM UTC-7, gggg gggg wrote:
> > On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 1:57:47 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> > > I’ve started exploring these recordings - I’ve heard and really enjoyed the Mörike lieder and just begun the Göthe songs. Obviously the voices are different - some more appealing than others. But the quality of the music is fabulous and, even when I don’t much care for the singers, I’m grateful to the series for helping me discover more of this music.
> > >
> > > I just wondered if anyone else knows the series, and whether anyone has any views on the high points.
> > For those into historical singers, the following may be of interest:
> >
> > https://archive.org/details/hugowolfsociety10000unse
> Once you listen to Rethberg's "MÜH’VOLL KOMM’ ICH UND BELADEN", you'll realize that you don't have to die...............................................
>
> To go to Heaven.
>
> Uh-uh.

Have you heard Wilhelm Killmayer’s songs? I think he’s the link who connects Rihm to the earlier German romantic song tradition - searching for that link is what sent me back to Wolf.

If you haven’t heard Killmayer then I’d say you should give it a shot - Prégardien recorded a CD of Heine settings.

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On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 1:19:56 PM UTC-7, gggg gggg wrote:
> On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 1:17:30 PM UTC-7, gggg gggg wrote:
> > On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 1:57:47 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> > > I’ve started exploring these recordings - I’ve heard and really enjoyed the Mörike lieder and just begun the Göthe songs. Obviously the voices are different - some more appealing than others. But the quality of the music is fabulous and, even when I don’t much care for the singers, I’m grateful to the series for helping me discover more of this music.
> > >
> > > I just wondered if anyone else knows the series, and whether anyone has any views on the high points.
> > For those into historical singers, the following may be of interest:
> >
> > https://archive.org/details/hugowolfsociety10000unse
> Once you listen to Rethberg's "MÜH’VOLL KOMM’ ICH UND BELADEN", you'll realize that you don't have to die...............................................
>
> To go to Heaven.
>
> Uh-uh.

To hear that lied accompanied by orchestra, search Youtube for the following:

Hugo Wolf, Spanisches Liederbuch n. 7. “Mühvoll komm ich und beladen”- Orchestrazione Michele Trenti

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On Sunday, May 1, 2022 at 8:14:00 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> Have you heard Wilhelm Killmayer’s songs? I think he’s the link who connects Rihm to the earlier German romantic song tradition - searching for that link is what sent me back to Wolf.
>
Interesting -- not a link I'd have thought to look for, but then I know Rihm only from A-S Mutter's recording of Time Chant, and haven't heard Killmayer at all.

Sometimes the existence of a body or a particle is inferred or expected from the behavior of another body or particle...but I would never have used that principle to look for a Killmayer between the romantics and Rihm!

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On Sunday, May 8, 2022 at 3:40:10 AM UTC+1, number_six wrote:
> On Sunday, May 1, 2022 at 8:14:00 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> > Have you heard Wilhelm Killmayer’s songs? I think he’s the link who connects Rihm to the earlier German romantic song tradition - searching for that link is what sent me back to Wolf.
> >
> Interesting -- not a link I'd have thought to look for, but then I know Rihm only from A-S Mutter's recording of Time Chant, and haven't heard Killmayer at all.
>
> Sometimes the existence of a body or a particle is inferred or expected from the behavior of another body or particle...but I would never have used that principle to look for a Killmayer between the romantics and Rihm!

Rihm studied with Killmayer. Quite a few things by Rihm seem to be in Killmayer style, not just some of the lieder - the Verwandlung cycle. He wrote a symphony for Killmayer (which I haven’t heard yet.)

I like some Killmayer very much - the chamber music, the quartet, especially.

I don’t know Time Chant, but generally I should say that Rihm has many styles at his disposal. He can write neo- romantic music, he can write Webern-esque music, he can write brutal, Varèse inspired music, he can write in the style of the Stockhausen’s later music. There is no Rihm style, there are many.

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On Saturday, May 7, 2022 at 8:01:28 PM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
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> I like some Killmayer very much - the
> chamber music, the quartet, especially.
>

Killmayer has nothing to do with music!

IDIOT !!!!!!!!

dk

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 by: Mandryka - Sun, 8 May 2022 14:17 UTC

On Saturday, May 7, 2022 at 10:07:16 PM UTC+1, gggg gggg wrote:
> On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 1:19:56 PM UTC-7, gggg gggg wrote:
> > On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 1:17:30 PM UTC-7, gggg gggg wrote:
> > > On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 1:57:47 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> > > > I’ve started exploring these recordings - I’ve heard and really enjoyed the Mörike lieder and just begun the Göthe songs. Obviously the voices are different - some more appealing than others. But the quality of the music is fabulous and, even when I don’t much care for the singers, I’m grateful to the series for helping me discover more of this music.
> > > >
> > > > I just wondered if anyone else knows the series, and whether anyone has any views on the high points.
> > > For those into historical singers, the following may be of interest:
> > >
> > > https://archive.org/details/hugowolfsociety10000unse
> > Once you listen to Rethberg's "MÜH’VOLL KOMM’ ICH UND BELADEN", you'll realize that you don't have to die...............................................
> >
> > To go to Heaven.
> >
> > Uh-uh.
> To hear that lied accompanied by orchestra, search Youtube for the following:
>
> Hugo Wolf, Spanisches Liederbuch n. 7. “Mühvoll komm ich und beladen”- Orchestrazione Michele Trenti
The Rethberg Muhvoll Komm' Ich Und Beladen is amazing. It's here

https://open.spotify.com/track/4uGB2HXSsg6opxAd1ESnSi?si=f284163704924655

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 by: gggg gggg - Sun, 8 May 2022 17:53 UTC

On Sunday, May 8, 2022 at 7:17:27 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> On Saturday, May 7, 2022 at 10:07:16 PM UTC+1, gggg gggg wrote:
> > On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 1:19:56 PM UTC-7, gggg gggg wrote:
> > > On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 1:17:30 PM UTC-7, gggg gggg wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 1:57:47 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> > > > > I’ve started exploring these recordings - I’ve heard and really enjoyed the Mörike lieder and just begun the Göthe songs. Obviously the voices are different - some more appealing than others. But the quality of the music is fabulous and, even when I don’t much care for the singers, I’m grateful to the series for helping me discover more of this music.
> > > > >
> > > > > I just wondered if anyone else knows the series, and whether anyone has any views on the high points.
> > > > For those into historical singers, the following may be of interest:
> > > >
> > > > https://archive.org/details/hugowolfsociety10000unse
> > > Once you listen to Rethberg's "MÜH’VOLL KOMM’ ICH UND BELADEN", you'll realize that you don't have to die...............................................
> > >
> > > To go to Heaven.
> > >
> > > Uh-uh.
> > To hear that lied accompanied by orchestra, search Youtube for the following:
> >
> > Hugo Wolf, Spanisches Liederbuch n. 7. “Mühvoll komm ich und beladen”- Orchestrazione Michele Trenti
> The Rethberg Muhvoll Komm' Ich Und Beladen is amazing. It's here
>
> https://open.spotify.com/track/4uGB2HXSsg6opxAd1ESnSi?si=f284163704924655

I think that she was the first to record that lied.

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On Sunday, May 8, 2022 at 10:53:21 AM UTC-7, gggg gggg wrote:
> On Sunday, May 8, 2022 at 7:17:27 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> > On Saturday, May 7, 2022 at 10:07:16 PM UTC+1, gggg gggg wrote:
> > > On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 1:19:56 PM UTC-7, gggg gggg wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 1:17:30 PM UTC-7, gggg gggg wrote:
> > > > > On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 1:57:47 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> > > > > > I’ve started exploring these recordings - I’ve heard and really enjoyed the Mörike lieder and just begun the Göthe songs. Obviously the voices are different - some more appealing than others. But the quality of the music is fabulous and, even when I don’t much care for the singers, I’m grateful to the series for helping me discover more of this music.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I just wondered if anyone else knows the series, and whether anyone has any views on the high points.
> > > > > For those into historical singers, the following may be of interest:
> > > > >
> > > > > https://archive.org/details/hugowolfsociety10000unse
> > > > Once you listen to Rethberg's "MÜH’VOLL KOMM’ ICH UND BELADEN", you'll realize that you don't have to die...............................................
> > > >
> > > > To go to Heaven.
> > > >
> > > > Uh-uh.
> > > To hear that lied accompanied by orchestra, search Youtube for the following:
> > >
> > > Hugo Wolf, Spanisches Liederbuch n. 7. “Mühvoll komm ich und beladen”- Orchestrazione Michele Trenti
> > The Rethberg Muhvoll Komm' Ich Und Beladen is amazing. It's here
> >
> > https://open.spotify.com/track/4uGB2HXSsg6opxAd1ESnSi?si=f284163704924655
> I think that she was the first to record that lied.

Now that I think of it, her recording was such a towering achievement that no one recorded that lied again until well into the postwar era (Seefried?)..

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