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Can anyone recommend a recording of a Chopin recital for a music history class? It can be a live or studio recording, recent or historical, but it should traverse a few genres.

In the past, I assigned a hodgepodge of classic recordings, but the sudden changes in volume and sound quality from track to track were distracting.

thanks,
Max

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Op donderdag 5 mei 2022 om 20:29:38 UTC+2 schreef maxi...@gmail.com:
> Can anyone recommend a recording of a Chopin recital for a music history class? It can be a live or studio recording, recent or historical, but it should traverse a few genres.
>
> In the past, I assigned a hodgepodge of classic recordings, but the sudden changes in volume and sound quality from track to track were distracting.
>
> thanks,
> Max

Perhaps you could use this link. It's a mixed program (young and old Chopin) by a young pianist who won the famous Chopin competition in Warsaw.

Henk

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 by: Frank Berger - Thu, 5 May 2022 21:43 UTC

On 5/5/2022 2:49 PM, HT wrote:
> Op donderdag 5 mei 2022 om 20:29:38 UTC+2 schreef maxi...@gmail.com:
>> Can anyone recommend a recording of a Chopin recital for a music history class? It can be a live or studio recording, recent or historical, but it should traverse a few genres.
>>
>> In the past, I assigned a hodgepodge of classic recordings, but the sudden changes in volume and sound quality from track to track were distracting.
>>
>> thanks,
>> Max
>
> Perhaps you could use this link. It's a mixed program (young and old Chopin) by a young pianist who won the famous Chopin competition in Warsaw.
>
> Henk
>

You forgot the link.

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 by: maxi...@gmail.com - Thu, 5 May 2022 22:16 UTC

On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 2:43:59 PM UTC-7, Frank Berger wrote:
> On 5/5/2022 2:49 PM, HT wrote:
> > Op donderdag 5 mei 2022 om 20:29:38 UTC+2 schreef maxi...@gmail.com:
> >> Can anyone recommend a recording of a Chopin recital for a music history class? It can be a live or studio recording, recent or historical, but it should traverse a few genres.
> >>
> >> In the past, I assigned a hodgepodge of classic recordings, but the sudden changes in volume and sound quality from track to track were distracting.
> >>
> >> thanks,
> >> Max
> >
> > Perhaps you could use this link. It's a mixed program (young and old Chopin) by a young pianist who won the famous Chopin competition in Warsaw.
> >
> > Henk
> >
> You forgot the link.

I'm looking forward to the link.

I should add that I'm looking for a GREAT recital...

Rmcr tends to evaluate individual pieces.

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 by: Frank Berger - Thu, 5 May 2022 23:48 UTC

On 5/5/2022 6:16 PM, maxi...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 2:43:59 PM UTC-7, Frank Berger wrote:
>> On 5/5/2022 2:49 PM, HT wrote:
>>> Op donderdag 5 mei 2022 om 20:29:38 UTC+2 schreef maxi...@gmail.com:
>>>> Can anyone recommend a recording of a Chopin recital for a music history class? It can be a live or studio recording, recent or historical, but it should traverse a few genres.
>>>>
>>>> In the past, I assigned a hodgepodge of classic recordings, but the sudden changes in volume and sound quality from track to track were distracting.
>>>>
>>>> thanks,
>>>> Max
>>>
>>> Perhaps you could use this link. It's a mixed program (young and old Chopin) by a young pianist who won the famous Chopin competition in Warsaw.
>>>
>>> Henk
>>>
>> You forgot the link.
>
> I'm looking forward to the link.
>
> I should add that I'm looking for a GREAT recital...
>
> Rmcr tends to evaluate individual pieces.

That's true. I'm partial to recitals myself for some reason.

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On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 11:29:38 AM UTC-7, maxi...@gmail.com wrote:
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> Can anyone recommend a recording of a Chopin recital for a
> music history class? It can be a live or studio recording, recent
> or historical, but it should traverse a few genres.
>

Plenty of Chopin recitals on YT:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykOlUhQhfkw
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=chopin+michelangeli
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=chopin+pogorelich
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=chopin+ashkenazy
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=chopin+horowitz
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=chopin+argerich
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=chopin+richter

Take your pick.

dk

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 by: HT - Fri, 6 May 2022 08:53 UTC

Op donderdag 5 mei 2022 om 23:43:59 UTC+2 schreef Frank Berger:
> On 5/5/2022 2:49 PM, HT wrote:
> > Op donderdag 5 mei 2022 om 20:29:38 UTC+2 schreef maxi...@gmail.com:
> >> Can anyone recommend a recording of a Chopin recital for a music history class? It can be a live or studio recording, recent or historical, but it should traverse a few genres.
> >>
> >> In the past, I assigned a hodgepodge of classic recordings, but the sudden changes in volume and sound quality from track to track were distracting.
> >>
> >> thanks,
> >> Max
> >
> > Perhaps you could use this link. It's a mixed program (young and old Chopin) by a young pianist who won the famous Chopin competition in Warsaw.
> >
> > Henk
> >
> You forgot the link.

Thanks for reminding me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnF-wbvRG68&t=5s

Henk

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On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 7:29:38 PM UTC+1, maxi...@gmail.com wrote:
> Can anyone recommend a recording of a Chopin recital for a music history class? It can be a live or studio recording, recent or historical, but it should traverse a few genres.
>
> In the past, I assigned a hodgepodge of classic recordings, but the sudden changes in volume and sound quality from track to track were distracting.
>
> thanks,
> Max

If you're doing it for a history class you should find a recital which uses the sort of piano which Chopin was actually writing for, not a modern piano. This for example

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUgxELRgPLk&ab_channel=TheCobbeCollection

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Subject: Re: Chopin Recital Recommendation?
From: dan.ko...@gmail.com (Dan Koren)
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On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 12:56:24 PM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
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> If you're doing it for a history class you should find a
> recital which uses the sort of piano which Chopin
> was actually writing for, not a modern piano.

The people who listened to the pianos on which
Chopin composed are long dead, so why bother?

Why do you feel compelled to shill firewood and
dead bodies? You are the most necrophiliac
idiot to have descended upon this nesgroup.

Buzz off!

dk

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bf5m9A8FIbQ

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 by: Frank Lekens - Sun, 8 May 2022 10:48 UTC

Op 7-5-2022 om 07:49 schreef Dan Koren:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bf5m9A8FIbQ
>
>
Indeed, this starts out with nice nostalgia inducing footage of some
beautiful cars, much more characterful than anything Audi's ever put on
the market, I'm sure.

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 by: Frank Berger - Sun, 8 May 2022 14:08 UTC

On 5/8/2022 6:48 AM, Frank Lekens wrote:
> Op 7-5-2022 om 07:49 schreef Dan Koren:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bf5m9A8FIbQ
>>
>>
> Indeed, this starts out with nice nostalgia inducing footage of some beautiful cars, much more characterful than anything Audi's ever put on the market, I'm sure.
>

I never used to see ads on ANY Youtube videos. Then I started seeing them on all of Dan's links. Today I see no ads on his new links, but I do on some others. It's a mystery.

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On Sunday, May 8, 2022 at 7:08:08 AM UTC-7, Frank Berger wrote:
>
> I never used to see ads on ANY Youtube videos.
> Then I started seeing them on all of Dan's links.
> Today I see no ads on his new links, but I do on
> some others. It's a mystery.

The appearance of ads has nothing to do with
specific links. It has to do with one's subscription.

If one has a "free" subscription ads will occasionally
pop up on one's screen. I pay Google $10 ransom
per month to stay free of ads.

dk

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 by: maxi...@gmail.com - Sun, 8 May 2022 15:31 UTC

On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 12:56:24 PM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 7:29:38 PM UTC+1, maxi...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Can anyone recommend a recording of a Chopin recital for a music history class? It can be a live or studio recording, recent or historical, but it should traverse a few genres.
> >
> > In the past, I assigned a hodgepodge of classic recordings, but the sudden changes in volume and sound quality from track to track were distracting.
> >
> > thanks,
> > Max
> If you're doing it for a history class you should find a recital which uses the sort of piano which Chopin was actually writing for, not a modern piano. This for example
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUgxELRgPLk&ab_channel=TheCobbeCollection

Thanks, this does have historical interest and I'll show a clip of it to my class, although I'm looking for great performances.

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On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 10:49:26 PM UTC-7, dan....@gmail.com wrote:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bf5m9A8FIbQ

Thanks for the recommendations.

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 by: Graham - Sun, 8 May 2022 16:21 UTC

On 2022-05-08 9:25 a.m., Dan Koren wrote:
> On Sunday, May 8, 2022 at 7:08:08 AM UTC-7, Frank Berger wrote:
>>
>> I never used to see ads on ANY Youtube videos.
>> Then I started seeing them on all of Dan's links.
>> Today I see no ads on his new links, but I do on
>> some others. It's a mystery.
>
> The appearance of ads has nothing to do with
> specific links. It has to do with one's subscription.
>
> If one has a "free" subscription ads will occasionally
> pop up on one's screen. I pay Google $10 ransom
> per month to stay free of ads.
>
> dk
Therefore, do you download recitals from YouTube?

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 by: Dan Koren - Sun, 8 May 2022 16:27 UTC

On Sunday, May 8, 2022 at 9:21:26 AM UTC-7, Graham wrote:
> On 2022-05-08 9:25 a.m., Dan Koren wrote:
> > On Sunday, May 8, 2022 at 7:08:08 AM UTC-7, Frank Berger wrote:
> >>
> >> I never used to see ads on ANY Youtube videos.
> >> Then I started seeing them on all of Dan's links.
> >> Today I see no ads on his new links, but I do on
> >> some others. It's a mystery.
> >
> > The appearance of ads has nothing to do with
> > specific links. It has to do with one's subscription.
> >
> > If one has a "free" subscription ads will occasionally
> > pop up on one's screen. I pay Google $10 ransom
> > per month to stay free of ads.
>
> Therefore, do you download recitals from YouTube?

Of course. One can use YouTube=DL, which is free:

https://youtube-dl.org/

For a nicer, simpler to us visual interface one can
use 4kdownloader, which works for both video and
audio, or mp3downloader which downloads audio
omly, including the audio track(s) from videos.

There is a large number of such tools available:

https://www.softwaretestinghelp.com/best-free-mp3-downloader/

Try them out and decide what works best for you.

AFAIK none of these tools can work around one's
subscription limitations, since they all require the
use id and passord to log in.

dk

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 by: Graham - Sun, 8 May 2022 16:33 UTC

On 2022-05-08 10:27 a.m., Dan Koren wrote:
> On Sunday, May 8, 2022 at 9:21:26 AM UTC-7, Graham wrote:
>> On 2022-05-08 9:25 a.m., Dan Koren wrote:
>>> On Sunday, May 8, 2022 at 7:08:08 AM UTC-7, Frank Berger wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I never used to see ads on ANY Youtube videos.
>>>> Then I started seeing them on all of Dan's links.
>>>> Today I see no ads on his new links, but I do on
>>>> some others. It's a mystery.
>>>
>>> The appearance of ads has nothing to do with
>>> specific links. It has to do with one's subscription.
>>>
>>> If one has a "free" subscription ads will occasionally
>>> pop up on one's screen. I pay Google $10 ransom
>>> per month to stay free of ads.
>>
>> Therefore, do you download recitals from YouTube?
>
> Of course. One can use YouTube=DL, which is free:
>
> https://youtube-dl.org/
>
> For a nicer, simpler to us visual interface one can
> use 4kdownloader, which works for both video and
> audio, or mp3downloader which downloads audio
> omly, including the audio track(s) from videos.
>
> There is a large number of such tools available:
>
> https://www.softwaretestinghelp.com/best-free-mp3-downloader/
>
> Try them out and decide what works best for you.
>
> AFAIK none of these tools can work around one's
> subscription limitations, since they all require the
> use id and passord to log in.
>
> dk
Thanks!!
I have been tempted but am put off by the Google ransom:-(
I will probably weaken.

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 by: Frank Berger - Sun, 8 May 2022 17:21 UTC

On 5/8/2022 11:25 AM, Dan Koren wrote:
> On Sunday, May 8, 2022 at 7:08:08 AM UTC-7, Frank Berger wrote:
>>
>> I never used to see ads on ANY Youtube videos.
>> Then I started seeing them on all of Dan's links.
>> Today I see no ads on his new links, but I do on
>> some others. It's a mystery.
>
> The appearance of ads has nothing to do with
> specific links. It has to do with one's subscription.
>
> If one has a "free" subscription ads will occasionally
> pop up on one's screen. I pay Google $10 ransom
> per month to stay free of ads.
>
> dk

I have had a free subscription forever and never saw a single ad (by which I mean a video ad preceding the desired video) until recently.

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 by: Graham - Sun, 8 May 2022 19:52 UTC

On 2022-05-08 11:21 a.m., Frank Berger wrote:
> On 5/8/2022 11:25 AM, Dan Koren wrote:
>> On Sunday, May 8, 2022 at 7:08:08 AM UTC-7, Frank Berger wrote:
>>>
>>> I never used to see ads on ANY Youtube videos.
>>> Then I started seeing them on all of Dan's links.
>>> Today I see no ads on his new links, but I do on
>>> some others. It's a mystery.
>>
>> The appearance of ads has nothing to do with
>> specific links. It has to do with one's subscription.
>>
>> If one has a "free" subscription ads will occasionally
>> pop up on one's screen. I pay Google $10 ransom
>> per month to stay free of ads.
>>
>> dk
>
> I have had a free subscription forever and never saw a single ad (by
> which I mean a video ad preceding the desired video) until recently.

Damned advertising! The first ad is usually one promoting ad services on
Google. It's the ads that pop up in the midst of a recital that are
particularly annoying.

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 by: Dan Koren - Sun, 8 May 2022 21:59 UTC

On Sunday, May 8, 2022 at 10:21:25 AM UTC-7, Frank Berger wrote:
> On 5/8/2022 11:25 AM, Dan Koren wrote:
> > On Sunday, May 8, 2022 at 7:08:08 AM UTC-7, Frank Berger wrote:
> >>
> >> I never used to see ads on ANY Youtube videos.
> >> Then I started seeing them on all of Dan's links.
> >> Today I see no ads on his new links, but I do on
> >> some others. It's a mystery.
> >
> > The appearance of ads has nothing to do with
> > specific links. It has to do with one's subscription.
> >
> > If one has a "free" subscription ads will occasionally
> > pop up on one's screen. I pay Google $10 ransom
> > per month to stay free of ads.
>
> I have had a free subscription forever and never saw a
> single ad (by which I mean a video ad preceding the
> desired video) until recently.

Good for you. The "free" subscription however allows
Google/YT to change their ad policies as they wish.

dk

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 by: Al Eisner - Sun, 8 May 2022 23:18 UTC

On Thu, 5 May 2022, maxi...@gmail.com wrote:

> Can anyone recommend a recording of a Chopin recital for a music history class? It can be a live or studio recording, recent or historical, but it should traverse a few genres.
>
> In the past, I assigned a hodgepodge of classic recordings, but the sudden changes in volume and sound quality from track to track were distracting.
>
> thanks,
> Max

You don't specify format. If this is a homework assignment you might
want something free, in which case a youtube recital (a number have
been suggested) might be the way to go, although free youtube sonics
can be rather limited. You also don't indicate whether you want a true
video or just audio. If you want high-quality audio, then a lossless
download (not free) would be the way to go. An example of the latter,
one which is a pretty great performance, is this one by Pletnev:
https://www.prestomusic.com/classical/products/8360384--chopin-piano-works.
--
Al Eisner

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 by: Frank Berger - Mon, 9 May 2022 00:14 UTC

On 5/8/2022 5:59 PM, Dan Koren wrote:
> On Sunday, May 8, 2022 at 10:21:25 AM UTC-7, Frank Berger wrote:
>> On 5/8/2022 11:25 AM, Dan Koren wrote:
>>> On Sunday, May 8, 2022 at 7:08:08 AM UTC-7, Frank Berger wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I never used to see ads on ANY Youtube videos.
>>>> Then I started seeing them on all of Dan's links.
>>>> Today I see no ads on his new links, but I do on
>>>> some others. It's a mystery.
>>>
>>> The appearance of ads has nothing to do with
>>> specific links. It has to do with one's subscription.
>>>
>>> If one has a "free" subscription ads will occasionally
>>> pop up on one's screen. I pay Google $10 ransom
>>> per month to stay free of ads.
>>
>> I have had a free subscription forever and never saw a
>> single ad (by which I mean a video ad preceding the
>> desired video) until recently.
>
> Good for you. The "free" subscription however allows
> Google/YT to change their ad policies as they wish.
>
> dk

Yes and they every right to do so. If the ads bother me enough I can buy a subscription and do away with them.

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On Sunday, May 8, 2022 at 4:31:45 PM UTC+1, maxi...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 12:56:24 PM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> > On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 7:29:38 PM UTC+1, maxi...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > Can anyone recommend a recording of a Chopin recital for a music history class? It can be a live or studio recording, recent or historical, but it should traverse a few genres.
> > >
> > > In the past, I assigned a hodgepodge of classic recordings, but the sudden changes in volume and sound quality from track to track were distracting.
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > > Max
> > If you're doing it for a history class you should find a recital which uses the sort of piano which Chopin was actually writing for, not a modern piano. This for example
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUgxELRgPLk&ab_channel=TheCobbeCollection
> Thanks, this does have historical interest and I'll show a clip of it to my class, although I'm looking for great performances.

If you want great performances I suggest you Murray Perahia’s preludes and Claudio Arrau’s live 3rd sonata on SWR Music

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