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Did any group member ever mention Grateful Dead,
in an interview?

Rubber Soul and Revolver were psychedelic, and the
boys were surely aware of the SanFran sound, where it
originated. And GDead was the leading proponent of that genre.

The Dead were big Beatles fans, that's known - though it's
hard to think of a Jerry Garcia song which might have been
composed by Lennon, or vice versa -

--
Rich

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On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 2:48:32 PM UTC-8, Rich D wrote:
> Did any group member ever mention Grateful Dead,
> in an interview?
>
> Rubber Soul and Revolver were psychedelic, and the
> boys were surely aware of the SanFran sound, where it
> originated. And GDead was the leading proponent of that genre.
>
> The Dead were big Beatles fans, that's known - though it's
> hard to think of a Jerry Garcia song which might have been
> composed by Lennon, or vice versa -
>
>
> --
> Rich

https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/why-jerry-garcia-preferred-john-lennon-over-the-beatles/

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On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 2:48:32 PM UTC-8, Rich D wrote:
> Did any group member ever mention Grateful Dead,
> in an interview?
>
> Rubber Soul and Revolver were psychedelic, and the
> boys were surely aware of the SanFran sound, where it
> originated. And GDead was the leading proponent of that genre.
>
> The Dead were big Beatles fans, that's known - though it's
> hard to think of a Jerry Garcia song which might have been
> composed by Lennon, or vice versa -
>
>
> --
> Rich

McCartney put together a 9-minute "The Grateful Dead: A Photofilm" in 1996, based on his then-wife's photographs of the band from the 1960s.

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On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 5:48:32 PM UTC-5, Rich D wrote:
> Did any group member ever mention Grateful Dead,
> in an interview?
>
> Rubber Soul and Revolver were psychedelic, and the
> boys were surely aware of the SanFran sound, where it
> originated. And GDead was the leading proponent of that genre.
>
> The Dead were big Beatles fans, that's known - though it's
> hard to think of a Jerry Garcia song which might have been
> composed by Lennon, or vice versa -
>
>
> --
> Rich

Is there anything about the Gdead's MUSIC that males it psychedelic? It's always sounded like folk to me.

The guys in the Dead were into drugs. Lore knows their audiences were, roo. But are there any 'Tomorrow Never Knows' or 'Lucy in the Skies' or 'Day in the Lifes' in their catalog?

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 by: Rich D - Wed, 23 Nov 2022 22:43 UTC

On November 22, RJKe...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> Did any group member ever mention Grateful Dead,
>> in an interview?
>> Rubber Soul and Revolver were psychedelic, and the
>> boys were surely aware of the SanFran sound, where it
>> originated. And GDead was the leading proponent of that genre.
>> The Dead were big Beatles fans, that's known - though it's
>> hard to think of a Jerry Garcia song which might have been
>> composed by Lennon, or vice versa -
>
> Is there anything about the Gdead's MUSIC that males it psychedelic? It's always sounded like folk to me.

After 1972, that's mostly true. Though they developed their own style of
folk - often cowboy - distinct from Bob Dylan / Joan Baez.

> The guys in the Dead were into drugs. But are there any 'Tomorrow Never Knows' or
> 'Lucy in the Skies' or 'Day in the Lifes' in their catalog?

Earlier, they were strongly psychedelic; "Saint Steven", "Dark Star". Lots of space jams.
Check "The other one", of heavy LSD influence, but not dreamy feelgood like "Lucy",
rather dark and gritty.

Hard to imagine the Beatles writing any of these.

"Unbroken Chain" might fit on Revolver - with different voicing, of course -

--
Rich

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On November 21, Norbert K wrote:
>> Did any group member ever mention Grateful Dead,
>> in an interview?
>> Rubber Soul and Revolver were psychedelic, and the
>> boys were surely aware of the SanFran sound, where it
>> originated.
>> The Dead were big Beatles fans, that's known - though it's
>> hard to think of a Jerry Garcia song which might have been
>> composed by Lennon, or vice versa -

> https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/why-jerry-garcia-preferred-john-lennon-over-the-beatles/

Garcia preferred Lennon/Ono above all?
yuk
My assessment of his taste suddenly drops three notches . -

--
Rich

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On November 23, Rich D wrote:
> >> Did any group member ever mention Grateful Dead,
> >> in an interview?
> >> The Dead were big Beatles fans, that's known - though it's
> >> hard to think of a Jerry Garcia song which might have been
> >> composed by Lennon, or vice versa
"So many roads" <--> "Long and winding road"

--
Rich

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On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 2:48:32 PM UTC-8, Rich D wrote:
> Did any group member ever mention Grateful Dead,
> in an interview?
>
> Rubber Soul and Revolver were psychedelic, and the
> boys were surely aware of the SanFran sound, where it
> originated. And GDead was the leading proponent of that genre.
>
> The Dead were big Beatles fans, that's known - though it's
> hard to think of a Jerry Garcia song which might have been
> composed by Lennon, or vice versa -
>
>
> --
> Rich

When Garcia's band with Merl Saunders played in NYC in spring of 1975, an inebriated Lennon slipped into their dressing room and surprised some of the bandmembers. He thanked them for their instrumental cover of "Imagine" and told Saunders he'd join them onstage if there was an available guitar louder than Garcia's. Saunders relayed this to Garcia who supposedly said "No.. Fuck him."

This is according to Blair Jackson's Garcia bio.

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From: RJKel...@yahoo.com (RJKe...@yahoo.com)
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 by: RJKe...@yahoo.com - Sun, 27 Nov 2022 17:07 UTC

On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 5:43:58 PM UTC-5, Rich D wrote:
> On November 22, RJKe...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >> Did any group member ever mention Grateful Dead,
> >> in an interview?
> >> Rubber Soul and Revolver were psychedelic, and the
> >> boys were surely aware of the SanFran sound, where it
> >> originated. And GDead was the leading proponent of that genre.
> >> The Dead were big Beatles fans, that's known - though it's
> >> hard to think of a Jerry Garcia song which might have been
> >> composed by Lennon, or vice versa -
> >
> > Is there anything about the Gdead's MUSIC that males it psychedelic? It's always sounded like folk to me.
> After 1972, that's mostly true. Though they developed their own style of
> folk - often cowboy - distinct from Bob Dylan / Joan Baez.
>
> > The guys in the Dead were into drugs. But are there any 'Tomorrow Never Knows' or
> > 'Lucy in the Skies' or 'Day in the Lifes' in their catalog?
> Earlier, they were strongly psychedelic; "Saint Steven", "Dark Star". Lots of space jams.
> Check "The other one", of heavy LSD influence, but not dreamy feelgood like "Lucy",
> rather dark and gritty.
>
> Hard to imagine the Beatles writing any of these.
>
> "Unbroken Chain" might fit on Revolver - with different voicing, of course -
>
> --
> Rich

Thanks for the reply, Rich. I listened to those tunes. They're alright. I mean, they sound like the Dead I know.

Most if their tunes project a happy vibe, right?

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During Jerry Garcia's short stint in the Army, he worked in the SF Presidio.. He had very few responsibilities, and was able to spend a lot of time playing his acoustic guitar. I'd have hung on to that gig. The Presidio has incredible views of the bay, and is beautiful in its own right.

I'm not a fan of the Dead's music; it sounds to me as if it's falling apart -- or as if it was never really assembled in the first place.

I like Jerry Garcia's Doug Irwin guitars, though -- and Phil Lesh's Alembic and Modulus Graphite basses.

The Dead shared the bill with the Who in Oakland a few times -- an odd pairing. I wonder if John Entwistle and Phil Lesh were surprised to realize they both favored the same bass manufacturer (Alembic).

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Subject: Re: GDead
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 by: Rich D - Thu, 1 Dec 2022 04:42 UTC

On November 27, RJKe...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > >> Rubber Soul and Revolver were psychedelic, and the
> > >> boys were surely aware of the SanFran sound, where it
>> >> originated. And GDead was the leading proponent of that genre.
>> >> The Dead were big Beatles fans, that's known - though it's
>> >> hard to think of a Jerry Garcia song which might have been
>> >> composed by Lennon, or vice versa -
>
>>> Is there anything about the Gdead's MUSIC that males it psychedelic?
>>> It's always sounded like folk to me.
>
>> After 1972, that's mostly true. Though they developed their own style of
>> folk - often cowboy - distinct from Bob Dylan / Joan Baez.
>
>>> The guys in the Dead were into drugs. But are there any 'Tomorrow Never Knows' or
>>> 'Lucy in the Skies' or 'Day in the Lifes' in their catalog? >
>
>> Earlier, they were strongly psychedelic; "Saint Steven", "Dark Star".
>> Check "The other one", of heavy LSD influence, but not dreamy feelgood like "Lucy",
>> rather dark and gritty.
>> Hard to imagine the Beatles writing any of these.
>> "Unbroken Chain" might fit on Revolver - with different voicing, of course -
>
> Thanks for the reply, Rich. I listened to those tunes. They're alright.
> I mean, they sound like the Dead I know.
> Most if their tunes project a happy vibe, right?

hmmmm... in their live performances, they certainly wanted
to please the audience, they were never punk or disruptive.

But some of the ballads, were haunting and bluesy, not
happy vibe; Brokedown Palace, Ship of Fools, Stella Blue
come to mind. The goal in those cases isn't to project
upbeat or down, but to convey emotion. Dead heads
will say they succeeded, but not everyone would agree -

Paul Mac's Yesterday has a similar feel. How many crooners
have covered that one? Also Penny Lane, the fave of the
elevator community -

--
Rich

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