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by: George J. Dance - Fri, 3 Jun 2022 18:38 UTC

Penny's Poetry Blog's featured poem for June:
In June and Gentle Oven, by Anne Wilkinson
[...]

Then two in one the lovers lie
And peel the skin of summer
With their teeth
And suck its marrow from a kiss
[...]

https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2012/06/june-gentle-oven.html

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by: George J. Dance - Thu, 9 Jun 2022 20:37 UTC

On 2022-06-03 2:38 p.m., George J. Dance wrote:
> Penny's Poetry Blog's featured poem for June:
> In June and Gentle Oven, by Anne Wilkinson
> [...]
>
> Then two in one the lovers lie
> And peel the skin of summer
> With their teeth
> And suck its marrow from a kiss
> [...]
>
> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2012/06/june-gentle-oven.html
>
>

Poor Anne Wilkinson's poem seems to have got buried.

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by: Victor H. - Mon, 13 Jun 2022 20:47 UTC

George J. Dance wrote:
>
> Penny's Poetry Blog's featured poem for June:
> In June and Gentle Oven, by Anne Wilkinson
> [...]

> Then two in one the lovers lie
> And peel the skin of summer
> With their teeth
> And suck its marrow from a kiss
> [...]

> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2012/06/june-gentle-oven.html

Quite an interesting poem from a poet who is new to me, I thank you for continuing to expose the obscure in poetry history...!

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by: W.Dockery - Wed, 15 Jun 2022 05:22 UTC

George J. Dance wrote:

>
>> Penny's Poetry Blog's featured poem for June:
>> In June and Gentle Oven, by Anne Wilkinson
>> [...]
>>
>> Then two in one the lovers lie
>> And peel the skin of summer
>> With their teeth
>> And suck its marrow from a kiss
>> [...]
>>
>> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2012/06/june-gentle-oven.html
>>
>>

> Poor Anne Wilkinson's poem seems to have got buried.

She deserves better, here's a bump for Anne W.

🙂

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by: George J. Dance - Fri, 17 Jun 2022 22:36 UTC

On 2022-06-13 4:47 p.m., Victor H. wrote:
> George J. Dance wrote:
>>
>> Penny's Poetry Blog's featured poem for June:
>> In June and Gentle Oven, by Anne Wilkinson
>> [...]
>
>> Then two in one the lovers lie
>> And peel the skin of summer
>> With their teeth
>> And suck its marrow from a kiss
>> [...]
>
>> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2012/06/june-gentle-oven.html
>
> Quite an interesting poem from a poet who is new to me, I thank you for
> continuing to expose the obscure in poetry history...!

She certainly is not well-known, even in Canada. She died young, at 51,
with just two books published. The second book came out in 1955, so it's
almost as old as I am; it's long been out of print, so thanks to
copyright laws and lack of the internet, there's been little way to
discover her.

I've seen "June" in anthologies, but that's all I read until recently.
This year, though, I found her first chapbook online, and I'll be
blogging a couple more of her poems, probably in August and January or
February.

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by: Zod - Fri, 12 Aug 2022 19:44 UTC

George J. Dance wrote:

> Poor Anne Wilkinson's poem seems to have got buried.

Here it comes back to the top...!

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by: George J. Dance - Sat, 13 Aug 2022 21:35 UTC

On 2022-08-12 3:44 p.m., Zod wrote:
> George J. Dance wrote:
>
>>
>>> Penny's Poetry Blog's featured poem for June:
>>> In June and Gentle Oven, by Anne Wilkinson
>>> [...]
>>>
>>> Then two in one the lovers lie
>>> And peel the skin of summer
>>> With their teeth
>>> And suck its marrow from a kiss
>>> [...]
>>>
>>> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2012/06/june-gentle-oven.html
>>>
>>>
>
>> Poor Anne Wilkinson's poem seems to have got buried.
>
> Here it comes back to the top...!

Good timing, Zod. One of the new Wilkinson poems I found will be on blog
next Sunday (not tomorrow, but next week).

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by: Victor H. - Sat, 13 Aug 2022 21:42 UTC

George J. Dance wrote:

> On 2022-08-12 3:44 p.m., Zod wrote:
>> George J. Dance wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>> Penny's Poetry Blog's featured poem for June:
>>>> In June and Gentle Oven, by Anne Wilkinson
>>>> [...]
>>>>
>>>> Then two in one the lovers lie
>>>> And peel the skin of summer
>>>> With their teeth
>>>> And suck its marrow from a kiss
>>>> [...]
>>>>
>>>> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2012/06/june-gentle-oven.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>> Poor Anne Wilkinson's poem seems to have got buried.
>>
>> Here it comes back to the top...!

> Good timing, Zod. One of the new Wilkinson poems I found will be on blog
> next Sunday (not tomorrow, but next week).

Good deal....!

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by: W-Dockery - Tue, 16 Aug 2022 01:42 UTC

Zod wrote:

> George J. Dance wrote:

>>
>>> Penny's Poetry Blog's featured poem for June:
>>> In June and Gentle Oven, by Anne Wilkinson
>>> [...]
>>>
>>> Then two in one the lovers lie
>>> And peel the skin of summer
>>> With their teeth
>>> And suck its marrow from a kiss
>>> [...]
>>>
>>> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2012/06/june-gentle-oven.html
>>>
>>>

>> Poor Anne Wilkinson's poem seems to have got buried.

> Here it comes back to the top...!

Bless her heart.

🙂

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by: General-Zod - Wed, 17 Aug 2022 21:39 UTC

George J. Dance wrote:

>
>>>> Penny's Poetry Blog's featured poem for June:
>>>> In June and Gentle Oven, by Anne Wilkinson
>>>> [...]
>>>>
>>>> Then two in one the lovers lie
>>>> And peel the skin of summer
>>>> With their teeth
>>>> And suck its marrow from a kiss
>>>> [...]
>>>>
>>>> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2012/06/june-gentle-oven.html
>>>>
>>>>

>>
> Poor Anne Wilkinson's poem seems to have got buried.

Outstanding poet, sadly overlooked

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by: General-Zod - Wed, 20 Mar 2024 21:48 UTC

George J. Dance wrote:

> Penny's Poetry Blog's featured poem for June:
> In June and Gentle Oven, by Anne Wilkinson
> [...]

> Then two in one the lovers lie
> And peel the skin of summer
> With their teeth
> And suck its marrow from a kiss
> [...]

> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2012/06/june-gentle-oven.html

Cool

What does not destroy me, makes me stronger. -- Nietzsche

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