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 by: Jerry Brown - Wed, 9 Feb 2022 19:46 UTC

On Tue, 08 Feb 2022 09:05:49 -0800, Paul S Person
<psperson1@ix.netcom.invalid> wrote:

>On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 10:30:47 -0800 (PST), T987654321
><qwrtz123@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Wow did it crater at the box office.
>
>IIRC, it's by Emmerich, so I am /still/ going to rent it.
>
>I survived /10,000 BC/ (the story of how a White Guy led a bunch of
>Black Guys to rebel against a bunch of Yellow Guys, with a superfluous
>sabretooth [as Ebert pointed out] added in for no particular reason)
>and /Anonymous/ (the Shakespeare thing that turned out to be the third
>installment of the /Elizabeth/ series, just with a completely new cast
>and crew), after all.
>
>OTOH, I /did/ skip /Stonewall/, but, IIRC, the reviews suggested it
>was more about an individual than a movement.
>
>And, anyway, /Moonfall/ is at least an SF film. I might find it ...
>acceptable ... as an Emmerich film.

I think of him as this generation's Irwin Allen: a purveyor of utter
tosh, where the relevant question is whether the film is entertaining
as opposed to whether it's good.

--
Jerry Brown

A cat may look at a king
(but probably won't bother)

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 by: Jibini Kula Tumbili - Thu, 10 Feb 2022 21:43 UTC

Paul S Person <psperson1@ix.netcom.invalid> wrote in
news:1cfa0htqcldmpc6nml473pqvrjvop91354@4ax.com:

> On Wed, 09 Feb 2022 19:46:52 +0000, Jerry Brown
> <jerry@jwbrown.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 08 Feb 2022 09:05:49 -0800, Paul S Person
>><psperson1@ix.netcom.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 10:30:47 -0800 (PST), T987654321
>>><qwrtz123@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Wow did it crater at the box office.
>>>
>>>IIRC, it's by Emmerich, so I am /still/ going to rent it.
>>>
>>>I survived /10,000 BC/ (the story of how a White Guy led a
>>>bunch of Black Guys to rebel against a bunch of Yellow Guys,
>>>with a superfluous sabretooth [as Ebert pointed out] added in
>>>for no particular reason) and /Anonymous/ (the Shakespeare
>>>thing that turned out to be the third installment of the
>>>/Elizabeth/ series, just with a completely new cast and crew),
>>>after all.
>>>
>>>OTOH, I /did/ skip /Stonewall/, but, IIRC, the reviews
>>>suggested it was more about an individual than a movement.
>>>
>>>And, anyway, /Moonfall/ is at least an SF film. I might find it
>>>... acceptable ... as an Emmerich film.
>>
>>I think of him as this generation's Irwin Allen: a purveyor of
>>utter tosh, where the relevant question is whether the film is
>>entertaining as opposed to whether it's good.
>
> Without commenting on Irwin Allen, I would agree with your
> characterization of Emmerich. Well, except that "being
> entertaining" is a major component of "being good", IMHO. YMMV.
>
> Or, as I would put it, an excellent provider of Brain-Dead
> Summer Action Flicks -- that is, films which entertain without
> requiring any mental effort.

Or films that entertain only if you actively *avoid* any mental
effort.

--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration
(May 2019 total for people arrested for entering the United States
illegally is over 132,000 for just the southwest border.)

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

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 by: Jibini Kula Tumbili - Fri, 11 Feb 2022 16:29 UTC

Paul S Person <psperson1@ix.netcom.invalid> wrote in
news:md4d0hphem59mbkdcupicihgb67a192quj@4ax.com:

> On Thu, 10 Feb 2022 14:43:38 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili
> Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Paul S Person <psperson1@ix.netcom.invalid> wrote in
>>news:1cfa0htqcldmpc6nml473pqvrjvop91354@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Wed, 09 Feb 2022 19:46:52 +0000, Jerry Brown
>>> <jerry@jwbrown.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Tue, 08 Feb 2022 09:05:49 -0800, Paul S Person
>>>><psperson1@ix.netcom.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 10:30:47 -0800 (PST), T987654321
>>>>><qwrtz123@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Wow did it crater at the box office.
>>>>>
>>>>>IIRC, it's by Emmerich, so I am /still/ going to rent it.
>>>>>
>>>>>I survived /10,000 BC/ (the story of how a White Guy led a
>>>>>bunch of Black Guys to rebel against a bunch of Yellow Guys,
>>>>>with a superfluous sabretooth [as Ebert pointed out] added in
>>>>>for no particular reason) and /Anonymous/ (the Shakespeare
>>>>>thing that turned out to be the third installment of the
>>>>>/Elizabeth/ series, just with a completely new cast and
>>>>>crew), after all.
>>>>>
>>>>>OTOH, I /did/ skip /Stonewall/, but, IIRC, the reviews
>>>>>suggested it was more about an individual than a movement.
>>>>>
>>>>>And, anyway, /Moonfall/ is at least an SF film. I might find
>>>>>it ... acceptable ... as an Emmerich film.
>>>>
>>>>I think of him as this generation's Irwin Allen: a purveyor of
>>>>utter tosh, where the relevant question is whether the film is
>>>>entertaining as opposed to whether it's good.
>>>
>>> Without commenting on Irwin Allen, I would agree with your
>>> characterization of Emmerich. Well, except that "being
>>> entertaining" is a major component of "being good", IMHO.
>>> YMMV.
>>>
>>> Or, as I would put it, an excellent provider of Brain-Dead
>>> Summer Action Flicks -- that is, films which entertain without
>>> requiring any mental effort.
>>
>>Or films that entertain only if you actively *avoid* any mental
>>effort.
>
> Fair enough, at least for those so obnoxious you cannot help
> thinking about them.
>
> For myself, I generally don't bother. Who cares if the North
> Atlantic Current is shown moving in reverse in /The Day After
> Tomorrow/?
>
> Or whether a car can /really/ take down a helicopter as in /Live
> Free or Die Hard/?

Everybody's threshold for suspension of disbelief is different (and
variable, based on expectation - I loved Velocipastor because it
was *exactly* what I expected). But once a movie crosses it, that's
that.

--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration
(May 2019 total for people arrested for entering the United States
illegally is over 132,000 for just the southwest border.)

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

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 by: Jerry Brown - Sat, 12 Feb 2022 10:12 UTC

On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 09:29:05 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
<taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:

>Paul S Person <psperson1@ix.netcom.invalid> wrote in
>news:md4d0hphem59mbkdcupicihgb67a192quj@4ax.com:
>
>> On Thu, 10 Feb 2022 14:43:38 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili
>> Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Paul S Person <psperson1@ix.netcom.invalid> wrote in
>>>news:1cfa0htqcldmpc6nml473pqvrjvop91354@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 09 Feb 2022 19:46:52 +0000, Jerry Brown
>>>> <jerry@jwbrown.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Tue, 08 Feb 2022 09:05:49 -0800, Paul S Person
>>>>><psperson1@ix.netcom.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 10:30:47 -0800 (PST), T987654321
>>>>>><qwrtz123@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Wow did it crater at the box office.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>IIRC, it's by Emmerich, so I am /still/ going to rent it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I survived /10,000 BC/ (the story of how a White Guy led a
>>>>>>bunch of Black Guys to rebel against a bunch of Yellow Guys,
>>>>>>with a superfluous sabretooth [as Ebert pointed out] added in
>>>>>>for no particular reason) and /Anonymous/ (the Shakespeare
>>>>>>thing that turned out to be the third installment of the
>>>>>>/Elizabeth/ series, just with a completely new cast and
>>>>>>crew), after all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>OTOH, I /did/ skip /Stonewall/, but, IIRC, the reviews
>>>>>>suggested it was more about an individual than a movement.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>And, anyway, /Moonfall/ is at least an SF film. I might find
>>>>>>it ... acceptable ... as an Emmerich film.
>>>>>
>>>>>I think of him as this generation's Irwin Allen: a purveyor of
>>>>>utter tosh, where the relevant question is whether the film is
>>>>>entertaining as opposed to whether it's good.
>>>>
>>>> Without commenting on Irwin Allen, I would agree with your
>>>> characterization of Emmerich. Well, except that "being
>>>> entertaining" is a major component of "being good", IMHO.
>>>> YMMV.
>>>>
>>>> Or, as I would put it, an excellent provider of Brain-Dead
>>>> Summer Action Flicks -- that is, films which entertain without
>>>> requiring any mental effort.
>>>
>>>Or films that entertain only if you actively *avoid* any mental
>>>effort.
>>
>> Fair enough, at least for those so obnoxious you cannot help
>> thinking about them.
>>
>> For myself, I generally don't bother. Who cares if the North
>> Atlantic Current is shown moving in reverse in /The Day After
>> Tomorrow/?
>>
>> Or whether a car can /really/ take down a helicopter as in /Live
>> Free or Die Hard/?
>
>Everybody's threshold for suspension of disbelief is different (and
>variable, based on expectation - I loved Velocipastor because it
>was *exactly* what I expected). But once a movie crosses it, that's
>that.

I recall one of the primary reasons for your dismissal of "Avatar" was
the "flying fucking mountains", but within the invented physics of the
film these were a logical result of the anti-gravity mineral that the
Evil Company was exploiting the planet in the first place.

In fact, a sample of this rock had already been shown hovering in a
desk display an hour earlier, setting up the later reveal of the
floating (not flying) mountain (leaving aside the internal logic of
the film, I recall reading somewhere that the mountain was a shout-out
to a 70s prog rock album cover, maybe by Roger Dean?).

My own suspension of disbelief is clearly much laxer, so for example I
have no problem with spacecraft flybys being accompanied by a "whoosh"
sound, as I consider this to come from the same place as the musical
score.

An example that DID bother me was "Gravity" which was supposedly a
non-SF technological action film with 100% accurate physics. This
physics somehow allowed the various space craft and the recurrent
menacing debris cloud to be able to travel at different angular
velocities in the same orbit.

--
Jerry Brown

A cat may look at a king
(but probably won't bother)

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 by: Wolffan - Sat, 12 Feb 2022 20:48 UTC

On 2022 Feb 12, J. Clarke wrote
(in article<7tif0hd95ebhpmmq8c6q5cd95sjrdjvq12@4ax.com>):

> On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 10:12:01 +0000, Jerry Brown
> <jerry@jwbrown.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 09:29:05 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
> > <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Paul S Person<psperson1@ix.netcom.invalid> wrote in
> > > news:md4d0hphem59mbkdcupicihgb67a192quj@4ax.com:
> > >
> > > > On Thu, 10 Feb 2022 14:43:38 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili
> > > > Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Paul S Person<psperson1@ix.netcom.invalid> wrote in
> > > > > news:1cfa0htqcldmpc6nml473pqvrjvop91354@4ax.com:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, 09 Feb 2022 19:46:52 +0000, Jerry Brown
> > > > > > <jerry@jwbrown.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, 08 Feb 2022 09:05:49 -0800, Paul S Person
> > > > > > > <psperson1@ix.netcom.invalid> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 10:30:47 -0800 (PST), T987654321
> > > > > > > > <qwrtz123@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Wow did it crater at the box office.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > IIRC, it's by Emmerich, so I am /still/ going to rent it.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I survived /10,000 BC/ (the story of how a White Guy led a
> > > > > > > > bunch of Black Guys to rebel against a bunch of Yellow Guys,
> > > > > > > > with a superfluous sabretooth [as Ebert pointed out] added in
> > > > > > > > for no particular reason) and /Anonymous/ (the Shakespeare
> > > > > > > > thing that turned out to be the third installment of the
> > > > > > > > /Elizabeth/ series, just with a completely new cast and
> > > > > > > > crew), after all.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > OTOH, I /did/ skip /Stonewall/, but, IIRC, the reviews
> > > > > > > > suggested it was more about an individual than a movement.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > And, anyway, /Moonfall/ is at least an SF film. I might find
> > > > > > > > it ... acceptable ... as an Emmerich film.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I think of him as this generation's Irwin Allen: a purveyor of
> > > > > > > utter tosh, where the relevant question is whether the film is
> > > > > > > entertaining as opposed to whether it's good.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Without commenting on Irwin Allen, I would agree with your
> > > > > > characterization of Emmerich. Well, except that "being
> > > > > > entertaining" is a major component of "being good", IMHO.
> > > > > > YMMV.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Or, as I would put it, an excellent provider of Brain-Dead
> > > > > > Summer Action Flicks -- that is, films which entertain without
> > > > > > requiring any mental effort.
> > > > >
> > > > > Or films that entertain only if you actively *avoid* any mental
> > > > > effort.
> > > >
> > > > Fair enough, at least for those so obnoxious you cannot help
> > > > thinking about them.
> > > >
> > > > For myself, I generally don't bother. Who cares if the North
> > > > Atlantic Current is shown moving in reverse in /The Day After
> > > > Tomorrow/?
> > > >
> > > > Or whether a car can /really/ take down a helicopter as in /Live
> > > > Free or Die Hard/?
> > >
> > > Everybody's threshold for suspension of disbelief is different (and
> > > variable, based on expectation - I loved Velocipastor because it
> > > was *exactly* what I expected). But once a movie crosses it, that's
> > > that.
> >
> > I recall one of the primary reasons for your dismissal of "Avatar" was
> > the "flying fucking mountains", but within the invented physics of the
> > film these were a logical result of the anti-gravity mineral that the
> > Evil Company was exploiting the planet in the first place.
> >
> > In fact, a sample of this rock had already been shown hovering in a
> > desk display an hour earlier, setting up the later reveal of the
> > floating (not flying) mountain (leaving aside the internal logic of
> > the film, I recall reading somewhere that the mountain was a shout-out
> > to a 70s prog rock album cover, maybe by Roger Dean?).
> >
> > My own suspension of disbelief is clearly much laxer, so for example I
> > have no problem with spacecraft flybys being accompanied by a "whoosh"
> > sound, as I consider this to come from the same place as the musical
> > score.
> >
> > An example that DID bother me was "Gravity" which was supposedly a
> > non-SF technological action film with 100% accurate physics. This
> > physics somehow allowed the various space craft and the recurrent
> > menacing debris cloud to be able to travel at different angular
> > velocities in the same orbit.
>
> The "floating in space" physics of pop culture. From the ISS one can
> according to this model send oneself to the Andromeda Galaxy with a
> gentle push of the hand. This is why people think Blue Origin and
> Virgin Galactic are doing something useful.

if you can push an extra 3 km/s or so, you can start yourself off to M31. You
may need some extra oomph to get solar escape velocity, and a bit more to
escape the Milky Way, and a bit of time, but it’s doable.

I can think of a few in-duh-viduals who should be given every chance to try.
I’d even help pay their way up so that the can try.

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Jerry Brown <jerry@jwbrown.co.uk.invalid> wrote in
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> On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 09:29:05 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili
> Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Paul S Person <psperson1@ix.netcom.invalid> wrote in
>>news:md4d0hphem59mbkdcupicihgb67a192quj@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Thu, 10 Feb 2022 14:43:38 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili
>>> Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Paul S Person <psperson1@ix.netcom.invalid> wrote in
>>>>news:1cfa0htqcldmpc6nml473pqvrjvop91354@4ax.com:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 09 Feb 2022 19:46:52 +0000, Jerry Brown
>>>>> <jerry@jwbrown.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Tue, 08 Feb 2022 09:05:49 -0800, Paul S Person
>>>>>><psperson1@ix.netcom.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 10:30:47 -0800 (PST), T987654321
>>>>>>><qwrtz123@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Wow did it crater at the box office.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>IIRC, it's by Emmerich, so I am /still/ going to rent it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I survived /10,000 BC/ (the story of how a White Guy led a
>>>>>>>bunch of Black Guys to rebel against a bunch of Yellow
>>>>>>>Guys, with a superfluous sabretooth [as Ebert pointed out]
>>>>>>>added in for no particular reason) and /Anonymous/ (the
>>>>>>>Shakespeare thing that turned out to be the third
>>>>>>>installment of the /Elizabeth/ series, just with a
>>>>>>>completely new cast and crew), after all.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>OTOH, I /did/ skip /Stonewall/, but, IIRC, the reviews
>>>>>>>suggested it was more about an individual than a movement.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>And, anyway, /Moonfall/ is at least an SF film. I might
>>>>>>>find it ... acceptable ... as an Emmerich film.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I think of him as this generation's Irwin Allen: a purveyor
>>>>>>of utter tosh, where the relevant question is whether the
>>>>>>film is entertaining as opposed to whether it's good.
>>>>>
>>>>> Without commenting on Irwin Allen, I would agree with your
>>>>> characterization of Emmerich. Well, except that "being
>>>>> entertaining" is a major component of "being good", IMHO.
>>>>> YMMV.
>>>>>
>>>>> Or, as I would put it, an excellent provider of Brain-Dead
>>>>> Summer Action Flicks -- that is, films which entertain
>>>>> without requiring any mental effort.
>>>>
>>>>Or films that entertain only if you actively *avoid* any
>>>>mental effort.
>>>
>>> Fair enough, at least for those so obnoxious you cannot help
>>> thinking about them.
>>>
>>> For myself, I generally don't bother. Who cares if the North
>>> Atlantic Current is shown moving in reverse in /The Day After
>>> Tomorrow/?
>>>
>>> Or whether a car can /really/ take down a helicopter as in
>>> /Live Free or Die Hard/?
>>
>>Everybody's threshold for suspension of disbelief is different
>>(and variable, based on expectation - I loved Velocipastor
>>because it was *exactly* what I expected). But once a movie
>>crosses it, that's that.
>
> I recall one of the primary reasons for your dismissal of
> "Avatar" was the "flying fucking mountains",

You recall incorrectly.

> but within the
> invented physics of the film these were a logical result of the
> anti-gravity mineral that the Evil Company was exploiting the
> planet in the first place.

The entire premise was fairly stupid, and the "message" was, as is
so often the case with Hollywood, that modern, technological,
western society is evil and you should be ashamed to be part of it
(and give poor people all your money). The producers of such drivel
are, of course, exceptions.
>
> In fact, a sample of this rock had already been shown hovering
> in a desk display an hour earlier, setting up the later reveal
> of the floating (not flying) mountain (leaving aside the
> internal logic of the film, I recall reading somewhere that the
> mountain was a shout-out to a 70s prog rock album cover, maybe
> by Roger Dean?).
>
> My own suspension of disbelief is clearly much laxer, so for
> example I have no problem with spacecraft flybys being
> accompanied by a "whoosh" sound, as I consider this to come from
> the same place as the musical score.
>
> An example that DID bother me was "Gravity" which was supposedly
> a non-SF technological action film with 100% accurate physics.

Supposedly, perhaps, but nobody believed it at the time, including
the people in it.

> This physics somehow allowed the various space craft and the
> recurrent menacing debris cloud to be able to travel at
> different angular velocities in the same orbit.
>
One of the bigger errors in the science.

One thing it got right, that Avatar didn't, however, was that it
was entertaining.

--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote in
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> The "floating in space" physics of pop culture. From the ISS
> one can according to this model send oneself to the Andromeda
> Galaxy with a gentle push of the hand. This is why people think
> Blue Origin and Virgin Galactic are doing something useful.

Depends on useful to *whom*, and what their goals are. Those are both
diong something useful for the egos of their respective owners, and
have some potential to be useful for their bank accounts, if only in
a minor way.

--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 10:12:01 +0000, Jerry Brown
<jerry@jwbrown.co.uk.invalid> wrote:

>In fact, a sample of this rock had already been shown hovering in a
>desk display an hour earlier, setting up the later reveal of the
>floating (not flying) mountain (leaving aside the internal logic of
>the film, I recall reading somewhere that the mountain was a shout-out
>to a 70s prog rock album cover, maybe by Roger Dean?).

Not so much "shout-out" as "rip-off". Dean sued. Unfortunately, he
lost:

http://copyright.nova.edu/avatar-lawsuit/


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