On Wednesday, April 15, 1998 at 12:00:00 AM UTC-7, Johannes Roehl wrote:
> I have the late (from Paris onward) of the masters symphonies more or less
> complete (and they are all great), but the ones that I know from the
> earlier periods seem to be of mixed quality. I have to admit that I don´t
> know too many ( 30 "Alleluia" and two others on a Harnoncourt disc, Fire,
> Farewells and 39 (?) with Solomon, 60 and 70 with Rattle, I may have
> forgotten a disc or two). While the "Farewell" or #70 is about as good as
> the Paris symphonies, some of the other ones, the "Fire" e.g. or the
> Harnoncourt disc in total I found less than overwhelming. But there are
> certainly some treasures hidden within those 80something symphonies before
> the late ones. I would be glad if anyone could recommend his/her personal
> favorites as a starting point for me. I don´t feel like buying a complete
> recording, so recommendations for recordings are also welcome.
> thanks
> Johannes
> --
> Johannes Roehl "They say that genius is an
> Physik infinite capacity for taking pains."
> Uni Giessen
> johanne...@physik.uni-giessen.de -Sherlock Holmes

(Recent Y. upload):

Dave's Faves No. 146 (Haydn)

On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 1:18:27 PM UTC-4, gggg gggg wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 15, 1998 at 12:00:00 AM UTC-7, Johannes Roehl wrote:
> > I have the late (from Paris onward) of the masters symphonies more or less
> > complete (and they are all great), but the ones that I know from the
> > earlier periods seem to be of mixed quality. I have to admit that I don´t
> > know too many ( 30 "Alleluia" and two others on a Harnoncourt disc, Fire,
> > Farewells and 39 (?) with Solomon, 60 and 70 with Rattle, I may have
> > forgotten a disc or two). While the "Farewell" or #70 is about as good as
> > the Paris symphonies, some of the other ones, the "Fire" e.g. or the
> > Harnoncourt disc in total I found less than overwhelming. But there are
> > certainly some treasures hidden within those 80something symphonies before
> > the late ones. I would be glad if anyone could recommend his/her personal
> > favorites as a starting point for me. I don´t feel like buying a complete
> > recording, so recommendations for recordings are also welcome.
> > thanks
> > Johannes
> > --
> > Johannes Roehl "They say that genius is an
> > Physik infinite capacity for taking pains."
> > Uni Giessen
> > johanne...@physik.uni-giessen.de -Sherlock Holmes
> (Recent Y. upload):
>
> Dave's Faves No. 146 (Haydn)
I find a lot of Haydn a source of unending surprises from his symphonies to his string quartets and more - a composer of wonderful inventiveness and yes humor Randy

On 7/14/2022 2:32 PM, randy wolfgang wrote:
> On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 1:18:27 PM UTC-4, gggg gggg wrote:
>> On Wednesday, April 15, 1998 at 12:00:00 AM UTC-7, Johannes Roehl wrote:
>>> I have the late (from Paris onward) of the masters symphonies more or less
>>> complete (and they are all great), but the ones that I know from the
>>> earlier periods seem to be of mixed quality. I have to admit that I don´t
>>> know too many ( 30 "Alleluia" and two others on a Harnoncourt disc, Fire,
>>> Farewells and 39 (?) with Solomon, 60 and 70 with Rattle, I may have
>>> forgotten a disc or two). While the "Farewell" or #70 is about as good as
>>> the Paris symphonies, some of the other ones, the "Fire" e.g. or the
>>> Harnoncourt disc in total I found less than overwhelming. But there are
>>> certainly some treasures hidden within those 80something symphonies before
>>> the late ones. I would be glad if anyone could recommend his/her personal
>>> favorites as a starting point for me. I don´t feel like buying a complete
>>> recording, so recommendations for recordings are also welcome.
>>> thanks
>>> Johannes
>>> --
>>> Johannes Roehl "They say that genius is an
>>> Physik infinite capacity for taking pains."
>>> Uni Giessen
>>> johanne...@physik.uni-giessen.de -Sherlock Holmes
>> (Recent Y. upload):
>>
>> Dave's Faves No. 146 (Haydn)
> I find a lot of Haydn a source of unending surprises from his symphonies to his string quartets and more - a composer of wonderful inventiveness and yes humor Randy

I like Bruckner as much as Haydn, but Haydn does often make me smile. Bruckner not so much.

On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 3:10:41 PM UTC-4, Frank Berger wrote:
> On 7/14/2022 2:32 PM, randy wolfgang wrote:
> > On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 1:18:27 PM UTC-4, gggg gggg wrote:
> >> On Wednesday, April 15, 1998 at 12:00:00 AM UTC-7, Johannes Roehl wrote:
> >>> I have the late (from Paris onward) of the masters symphonies more or less
> >>> complete (and they are all great), but the ones that I know from the
> >>> earlier periods seem to be of mixed quality. I have to admit that I don´t
> >>> know too many ( 30 "Alleluia" and two others on a Harnoncourt disc, Fire,
> >>> Farewells and 39 (?) with Solomon, 60 and 70 with Rattle, I may have
> >>> forgotten a disc or two). While the "Farewell" or #70 is about as good as
> >>> the Paris symphonies, some of the other ones, the "Fire" e.g. or the
> >>> Harnoncourt disc in total I found less than overwhelming. But there are
> >>> certainly some treasures hidden within those 80something symphonies before
> >>> the late ones. I would be glad if anyone could recommend his/her personal
> >>> favorites as a starting point for me. I don´t feel like buying a complete
> >>> recording, so recommendations for recordings are also welcome.
> >>> thanks
> >>> Johannes
> >>> --
> >>> Johannes Roehl "They say that genius is an
> >>> Physik infinite capacity for taking pains."
> >>> Uni Giessen
> >>> johanne...@physik.uni-giessen.de -Sherlock Holmes
> >> (Recent Y. upload):
> >>
> >> Dave's Faves No. 146 (Haydn)
> > I find a lot of Haydn a source of unending surprises from his symphonies to his string quartets and more - a composer of wonderful inventiveness and yes humor Randy
> I like Bruckner as much as Haydn, but Haydn does often make me smile. Bruckner not so much.
Yes I have laughed out loud at a few moments in Haydn eg Symphony 93 with the famous bassoon, how shall I say, fart sound!!! As I said he always surprises me Randy

On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 9:10:41 PM UTC+2, Frank Berger wrote:
>
> I like Bruckner as much as Haydn, but Haydn does often make me smile. Bruckner not so much.

Oh, that's just no contest. Bruckner wrote ten or eleven symphonies.
Haydn more than a hundred symphonies, plus at least fifty splendid string quartets, 43 (if I recall) piano trios, a whole bunch of piano sonatas, it just goes on and on.

On 7/14/22 12:29 PM, randy wolfgang wrote:
> On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 3:10:41 PM UTC-4, Frank Berger wrote:
>> On 7/14/2022 2:32 PM, randy wolfgang wrote:
>>> On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 1:18:27 PM UTC-4, gggg gggg wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, April 15, 1998 at 12:00:00 AM UTC-7, Johannes Roehl wrote:
>>>>> I have the late (from Paris onward) of the masters symphonies more or less
>>>>> complete (and they are all great), but the ones that I know from the
>>>>> earlier periods seem to be of mixed quality. I have to admit that I don´t
>>>>> know too many ( 30 "Alleluia" and two others on a Harnoncourt disc, Fire,
>>>>> Farewells and 39 (?) with Solomon, 60 and 70 with Rattle, I may have
>>>>> forgotten a disc or two). While the "Farewell" or #70 is about as good as
>>>>> the Paris symphonies, some of the other ones, the "Fire" e.g. or the
>>>>> Harnoncourt disc in total I found less than overwhelming. But there are
>>>>> certainly some treasures hidden within those 80something symphonies before
>>>>> the late ones. I would be glad if anyone could recommend his/her personal
>>>>> favorites as a starting point for me. I don´t feel like buying a complete
>>>>> recording, so recommendations for recordings are also welcome.
>>>>> thanks
>>>>> Johannes
>>>>> --
>>>>> Johannes Roehl "They say that genius is an
>>>>> Physik infinite capacity for taking pains."
>>>>> Uni Giessen
>>>>> johanne...@physik.uni-giessen.de -Sherlock Holmes
>>>> (Recent Y. upload):
>>>>
>>>> Dave's Faves No. 146 (Haydn)
>>> I find a lot of Haydn a source of unending surprises from his symphonies to his string quartets and more - a composer of wonderful inventiveness and yes humor Randy
>> I like Bruckner as much as Haydn, but Haydn does often make me smile. Bruckner not so much.
> Yes I have laughed out loud at a few moments in Haydn eg Symphony 93 with the famous bassoon, how shall I say, fart sound!!! As I said he always surprises me Randy

specially Szell's recording, which is undoubtedly over the top, but
still wonderful. I can't imagine that even the bluest-haired audience
wouldn't laugh out loud at that moment.

Bob Harper

On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 7:27:19 PM UTC-4, Bob Harper wrote:
> On 7/14/22 12:29 PM, randy wolfgang wrote:
> > On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 3:10:41 PM UTC-4, Frank Berger wrote:
> >> On 7/14/2022 2:32 PM, randy wolfgang wrote:
> >>> On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 1:18:27 PM UTC-4, gggg gggg wrote:
> >>>> On Wednesday, April 15, 1998 at 12:00:00 AM UTC-7, Johannes Roehl wrote:
> >>>>> I have the late (from Paris onward) of the masters symphonies more or less
> >>>>> complete (and they are all great), but the ones that I know from the
> >>>>> earlier periods seem to be of mixed quality. I have to admit that I don´t
> >>>>> know too many ( 30 "Alleluia" and two others on a Harnoncourt disc, Fire,
> >>>>> Farewells and 39 (?) with Solomon, 60 and 70 with Rattle, I may have
> >>>>> forgotten a disc or two). While the "Farewell" or #70 is about as good as
> >>>>> the Paris symphonies, some of the other ones, the "Fire" e.g. or the
> >>>>> Harnoncourt disc in total I found less than overwhelming. But there are
> >>>>> certainly some treasures hidden within those 80something symphonies before
> >>>>> the late ones. I would be glad if anyone could recommend his/her personal
> >>>>> favorites as a starting point for me. I don´t feel like buying a complete
> >>>>> recording, so recommendations for recordings are also welcome.
> >>>>> thanks
> >>>>> Johannes
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Johannes Roehl "They say that genius is an
> >>>>> Physik infinite capacity for taking pains."
> >>>>> Uni Giessen
> >>>>> johanne...@physik.uni-giessen.de -Sherlock Holmes
> >>>> (Recent Y. upload):
> >>>>
> >>>> Dave's Faves No. 146 (Haydn)
> >>> I find a lot of Haydn a source of unending surprises from his symphonies to his string quartets and more - a composer of wonderful inventiveness and yes humor Randy
> >> I like Bruckner as much as Haydn, but Haydn does often make me smile. Bruckner not so much.
> > Yes I have laughed out loud at a few moments in Haydn eg Symphony 93 with the famous bassoon, how shall I say, fart sound!!! As I said he always surprises me Randy
> specially Szell's recording, which is undoubtedly over the top, but
> still wonderful. I can't imagine that even the bluest-haired audience
> wouldn't laugh out loud at that moment.
>
> Bob Harper
Since I just got the big Szell box I'll give a listen - and perhaps Beecham for a more demure fart????

On 7/14/22 2:13 PM, Herman wrote:
> On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 9:10:41 PM UTC+2, Frank Berger wrote:
>>
>> I like Bruckner as much as Haydn, but Haydn does often make me smile. Bruckner not so much.
>
> Oh, that's just no contest. Bruckner wrote ten or eleven symphonies.
> Haydn more than a hundred symphonies, plus at least fifty splendid string quartets, 43 (if I recall) piano trios, a whole bunch of piano sonatas, it just goes on and on.

Yes, his industry and inventiveness are unparalleled. Is Jammes Brown
was, as he claimed, ":the hardest working man in show business", Haydn
was every bit his equal in CM.

To the original question, I'd say 6-8, 22, 39, 44, 45, 48, 60
(especially David Blum's recording if you can find it), 63, and 70. I'm
sure I'm omitting some that deserve inclusion, but those come to mind
OTTOMH.

Bob Harper

On 7/14/2022 7:35 PM, randy wolfgang wrote:
> On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 7:27:19 PM UTC-4, Bob Harper wrote:
>> On 7/14/22 12:29 PM, randy wolfgang wrote:
>>> On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 3:10:41 PM UTC-4, Frank Berger wrote:
>>>> On 7/14/2022 2:32 PM, randy wolfgang wrote:
>>>>> On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 1:18:27 PM UTC-4, gggg gggg wrote:
>>>>>> On Wednesday, April 15, 1998 at 12:00:00 AM UTC-7, Johannes Roehl wrote:
>>>>>>> I have the late (from Paris onward) of the masters symphonies more or less
>>>>>>> complete (and they are all great), but the ones that I know from the
>>>>>>> earlier periods seem to be of mixed quality. I have to admit that I don´t
>>>>>>> know too many ( 30 "Alleluia" and two others on a Harnoncourt disc, Fire,
>>>>>>> Farewells and 39 (?) with Solomon, 60 and 70 with Rattle, I may have
>>>>>>> forgotten a disc or two). While the "Farewell" or #70 is about as good as
>>>>>>> the Paris symphonies, some of the other ones, the "Fire" e.g. or the
>>>>>>> Harnoncourt disc in total I found less than overwhelming. But there are
>>>>>>> certainly some treasures hidden within those 80something symphonies before
>>>>>>> the late ones. I would be glad if anyone could recommend his/her personal
>>>>>>> favorites as a starting point for me. I don´t feel like buying a complete
>>>>>>> recording, so recommendations for recordings are also welcome.
>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>> Johannes
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Johannes Roehl "They say that genius is an
>>>>>>> Physik infinite capacity for taking pains."
>>>>>>> Uni Giessen
>>>>>>> johanne...@physik.uni-giessen.de -Sherlock Holmes
>>>>>> (Recent Y. upload):
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dave's Faves No. 146 (Haydn)
>>>>> I find a lot of Haydn a source of unending surprises from his symphonies to his string quartets and more - a composer of wonderful inventiveness and yes humor Randy
>>>> I like Bruckner as much as Haydn, but Haydn does often make me smile. Bruckner not so much.
>>> Yes I have laughed out loud at a few moments in Haydn eg Symphony 93 with the famous bassoon, how shall I say, fart sound!!! As I said he always surprises me Randy
>> specially Szell's recording, which is undoubtedly over the top, but
>> still wonderful. I can't imagine that even the bluest-haired audience
>> wouldn't laugh out loud at that moment.
>>
>> Bob Harper
> Since I just got the big Szell box I'll give a listen - and perhaps Beecham for a more demure fart????

I believe actual period performance practice calls for a real fart. Choice of animal depending on what is available. As a last resort the conductor himself contributes.

On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 9:46:14 PM UTC-4, Frank Berger wrote:
> On 7/14/2022 7:35 PM, randy wolfgang wrote:
> > On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 7:27:19 PM UTC-4, Bob Harper wrote:
> >> On 7/14/22 12:29 PM, randy wolfgang wrote:
> >>> On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 3:10:41 PM UTC-4, Frank Berger wrote:
> >>>> On 7/14/2022 2:32 PM, randy wolfgang wrote:
> >>>>> On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 1:18:27 PM UTC-4, gggg gggg wrote:
> >>>>>> On Wednesday, April 15, 1998 at 12:00:00 AM UTC-7, Johannes Roehl wrote:
> >>>>>>> I have the late (from Paris onward) of the masters symphonies more or less
> >>>>>>> complete (and they are all great), but the ones that I know from the
> >>>>>>> earlier periods seem to be of mixed quality. I have to admit that I don´t
> >>>>>>> know too many ( 30 "Alleluia" and two others on a Harnoncourt disc, Fire,
> >>>>>>> Farewells and 39 (?) with Solomon, 60 and 70 with Rattle, I may have
> >>>>>>> forgotten a disc or two). While the "Farewell" or #70 is about as good as
> >>>>>>> the Paris symphonies, some of the other ones, the "Fire" e.g. or the
> >>>>>>> Harnoncourt disc in total I found less than overwhelming. But there are
> >>>>>>> certainly some treasures hidden within those 80something symphonies before
> >>>>>>> the late ones. I would be glad if anyone could recommend his/her personal
> >>>>>>> favorites as a starting point for me. I don´t feel like buying a complete
> >>>>>>> recording, so recommendations for recordings are also welcome.
> >>>>>>> thanks
> >>>>>>> Johannes
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> Johannes Roehl "They say that genius is an
> >>>>>>> Physik infinite capacity for taking pains."
> >>>>>>> Uni Giessen
> >>>>>>> johanne...@physik.uni-giessen.de -Sherlock Holmes
> >>>>>> (Recent Y. upload):
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Dave's Faves No. 146 (Haydn)
> >>>>> I find a lot of Haydn a source of unending surprises from his symphonies to his string quartets and more - a composer of wonderful inventiveness and yes humor Randy
> >>>> I like Bruckner as much as Haydn, but Haydn does often make me smile.. Bruckner not so much.
> >>> Yes I have laughed out loud at a few moments in Haydn eg Symphony 93 with the famous bassoon, how shall I say, fart sound!!! As I said he always surprises me Randy
> >> specially Szell's recording, which is undoubtedly over the top, but
> >> still wonderful. I can't imagine that even the bluest-haired audience
> >> wouldn't laugh out loud at that moment.
> >>
> >> Bob Harper
> > Since I just got the big Szell box I'll give a listen - and perhaps Beecham for a more demure fart????
> I believe actual period performance practice calls for a real fart. Choice of animal depending on what is available. As a last resort the conductor himself contributes.
So when someone calls a conductor an "old fart" they may actually be referring to performance practice!!!

On 7/14/22 9:46 PM, Frank Berger wrote:
> On 7/14/2022 7:35 PM, randy wolfgang wrote:
>> On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 7:27:19 PM UTC-4, Bob Harper wrote:
>>> On 7/14/22 12:29 PM, randy wolfgang wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 3:10:41 PM UTC-4, Frank Berger wrote:
>>>>> On 7/14/2022 2:32 PM, randy wolfgang wrote:
>>>>>> On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 1:18:27 PM UTC-4, gggg gggg wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, April 15, 1998 at 12:00:00 AM UTC-7, Johannes Roehl
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I have the late (from Paris onward) of the masters symphonies
>>>>>>>> more or less
>>>>>>>> complete (and they are all great), but the ones that I know from
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> earlier periods seem to be of mixed quality. I have to admit
>>>>>>>> that I don´t
>>>>>>>> know too many ( 30 "Alleluia" and two others on a Harnoncourt
>>>>>>>> disc, Fire,
>>>>>>>> Farewells and 39 (?) with Solomon, 60 and 70 with Rattle, I may
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>> forgotten a disc or two). While the "Farewell" or #70 is about
>>>>>>>> as good as
>>>>>>>> the Paris symphonies, some of the other ones, the "Fire" e.g. or
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> Harnoncourt disc in total I found less than overwhelming. But
>>>>>>>> there are
>>>>>>>> certainly some treasures hidden within those 80something
>>>>>>>> symphonies before
>>>>>>>> the late ones. I would be glad if anyone could recommend his/her
>>>>>>>> personal
>>>>>>>> favorites as a starting point for me. I don´t feel like buying a
>>>>>>>> complete
>>>>>>>> recording, so recommendations for recordings are also welcome.
>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>> Johannes
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Johannes Roehl "They say that genius is an
>>>>>>>> Physik infinite capacity for taking pains."
>>>>>>>> Uni Giessen
>>>>>>>> johanne...@physik.uni-giessen.de -Sherlock Holmes
>>>>>>> (Recent Y. upload):
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dave's Faves No. 146 (Haydn)
>>>>>> I find a lot of Haydn a source of unending surprises from his
>>>>>> symphonies to his string quartets and more - a composer of
>>>>>> wonderful inventiveness and yes humor Randy
>>>>> I like Bruckner as much as Haydn, but Haydn does often make me
>>>>> smile. Bruckner not so much.
>>>> Yes I have laughed out loud at a few moments in Haydn eg Symphony 93
>>>> with the famous bassoon, how shall I say, fart sound!!! As I said he
>>>> always surprises me Randy
>>> specially Szell's recording, which is undoubtedly over the top, but
>>> still wonderful. I can't imagine that even the bluest-haired audience
>>> wouldn't laugh out loud at that moment.
>>>
>>> Bob Harper
>> Since I just got the big Szell box I'll give a listen - and perhaps
>> Beecham for a more demure fart????
>
> I believe actual period performance practice calls for a real fart.
> Choice of animal depending on what is available.  As a last resort the
> conductor himself contributes.

Maestro Szell will tonight be a performer using the whoopee cushion...

-Owen

To answer the original question in the subject, a great place to start
is the Big Haydn Box from Amazon. There's also a Big Haydn Symphonies
box, but it appears to be duplicate. In particular, those by the
Esterhazy Orchestra & David Blum are excellent. And you can't beat the
price, 14 hours and 5 minutes of Haydn download for a buck.

-Owen

On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 11:47:26 PM UTC-4, Owen wrote:
> To answer the original question in the subject, a great place to start
> is the Big Haydn Box from Amazon. There's also a Big Haydn Symphonies
> box, but it appears to be duplicate. In particular, those by the
> Esterhazy Orchestra & David Blum are excellent. And you can't beat the
> price, 14 hours and 5 minutes of Haydn download for a buck.
>
> -Owen
yes I forgot about them - mainly Vanguard recordings. I read the Woldike symphony recordings got good reviews back in the day

On 7/14/22 4:35 PM, randy wolfgang wrote:
> On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 7:27:19 PM UTC-4, Bob Harper wrote:
>> On 7/14/22 12:29 PM, randy wolfgang wrote:
>>> On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 3:10:41 PM UTC-4, Frank Berger wrote:
>>>> On 7/14/2022 2:32 PM, randy wolfgang wrote:
>>>>> On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 1:18:27 PM UTC-4, gggg gggg wrote:
>>>>>> On Wednesday, April 15, 1998 at 12:00:00 AM UTC-7, Johannes Roehl wrote:
>>>>>>> I have the late (from Paris onward) of the masters symphonies more or less
>>>>>>> complete (and they are all great), but the ones that I know from the
>>>>>>> earlier periods seem to be of mixed quality. I have to admit that I don´t
>>>>>>> know too many ( 30 "Alleluia" and two others on a Harnoncourt disc, Fire,
>>>>>>> Farewells and 39 (?) with Solomon, 60 and 70 with Rattle, I may have
>>>>>>> forgotten a disc or two). While the "Farewell" or #70 is about as good as
>>>>>>> the Paris symphonies, some of the other ones, the "Fire" e.g. or the
>>>>>>> Harnoncourt disc in total I found less than overwhelming. But there are
>>>>>>> certainly some treasures hidden within those 80something symphonies before
>>>>>>> the late ones. I would be glad if anyone could recommend his/her personal
>>>>>>> favorites as a starting point for me. I don´t feel like buying a complete
>>>>>>> recording, so recommendations for recordings are also welcome.
>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>> Johannes
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Johannes Roehl "They say that genius is an
>>>>>>> Physik infinite capacity for taking pains."
>>>>>>> Uni Giessen
>>>>>>> johanne...@physik.uni-giessen.de -Sherlock Holmes
>>>>>> (Recent Y. upload):
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dave's Faves No. 146 (Haydn)
>>>>> I find a lot of Haydn a source of unending surprises from his symphonies to his string quartets and more - a composer of wonderful inventiveness and yes humor Randy
>>>> I like Bruckner as much as Haydn, but Haydn does often make me smile. Bruckner not so much.
>>> Yes I have laughed out loud at a few moments in Haydn eg Symphony 93 with the famous bassoon, how shall I say, fart sound!!! As I said he always surprises me Randy
>> specially Szell's recording, which is undoubtedly over the top, but
>> still wonderful. I can't imagine that even the bluest-haired audience
>> wouldn't laugh out loud at that moment.
>>
>> Bob Harper
> Since I just got the big Szell box I'll give a listen - and perhaps Beecham for a more demure fart????

Yes; a little toot by comparison :-).

Bob Harper

On 7/15/22 3:51 AM, randy wolfgang wrote:
> On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 11:47:26 PM UTC-4, Owen wrote:
>> To answer the original question in the subject, a great place to start
>> is the Big Haydn Box from Amazon. There's also a Big Haydn Symphonies
>> box, but it appears to be duplicate. In particular, those by the
>> Esterhazy Orchestra & David Blum are excellent. And you can't beat the
>> price, 14 hours and 5 minutes of Haydn download for a buck.
>>
>> -Owen
> yes I forgot about them - mainly Vanguard recordings. I read the Woldike symphony recordings got good reviews back in the day

They are outstanding. With Szell's 93-98 and Woldike's 99-104, you've
got yourself a pretty good set of the London Symphonies. It's too bad
that both conductors didn't make the other half.

Bob Harper