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 by: Pamela Brown - Sun, 19 Feb 2023 18:55 UTC

In The Legacy of John Lennon, by David Noebel, John gets the blame for the entire rock revolution...and even Altamont! I have been reading this book in hopes of gleaning some insight from someone who is -- obviously-- not a fan, only to find that this writer has gone way out on a limb...

The book was written in the early 80's...
nevertheless...

The book also claims that at least some of the rock revolution was Soviet-inspired, and that when John/Beatles wrote about a revolution they were serious...that the 'more popular than Jesus' statement was not an off-hand comment, but an underlying objective...

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 by: Norbert K - Sun, 19 Feb 2023 19:44 UTC

On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 10:55:55 AM UTC-8, Pamela Brown wrote:
> In The Legacy of John Lennon, by David Noebel, John gets the blame for the entire rock revolution...and even Altamont! I have been reading this book in hopes of gleaning some insight from someone who is -- obviously-- not a fan, only to find that this writer has gone way out on a limb...
>
> The book was written in the early 80's...
> nevertheless...
>
> The book also claims that at least some of the rock revolution was Soviet-inspired, and that when John/Beatles wrote about a revolution they were serious...that the 'more popular than Jesus' statement was not an off-hand comment, but an underlying objective...

That guy sounds like a nut! Is he even familiar with the (anti-violence, anti-hate, anti-Mao) lyrics of "Revolution"? The "More popular than Jesus" comment, viewed in context certainly seems offhand -- the comment of a person who had reached his goals, only to find himself bored and lacking in purpose. One could argue that the Beatles led the British Invasion of the 60s, but there's nothing wrong with that.

I doubt that Lennon had any deep convictions behind his radical songs of the Elephant's Memory phase. I think the radical causes were something that Yoko latched onto, and that, befuddled with Yoko and drugs, John went along with it. He was eager to disavow that shtick as "phony," born of guilt, and almost the ruin of his career.

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 by: Pamela Brown - Sun, 19 Feb 2023 20:13 UTC

On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 1:44:37 PM UTC-6, Norbert K wrote:
> On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 10:55:55 AM UTC-8, Pamela Brown wrote:
> > In The Legacy of John Lennon, by David Noebel, John gets the blame for the entire rock revolution...and even Altamont! I have been reading this book in hopes of gleaning some insight from someone who is -- obviously-- not a fan, only to find that this writer has gone way out on a limb...
> >
> > The book was written in the early 80's...
> > nevertheless...
> >
> > The book also claims that at least some of the rock revolution was Soviet-inspired, and that when John/Beatles wrote about a revolution they were serious...that the 'more popular than Jesus' statement was not an off-hand comment, but an underlying objective...
> That guy sounds like a nut! Is he even familiar with the (anti-violence, anti-hate, anti-Mao) lyrics of "Revolution"? The "More popular than Jesus" comment, viewed in context certainly seems offhand -- the comment of a person who had reached his goals, only to find himself bored and lacking in purpose. One could argue that the Beatles led the British Invasion of the 60s, but there's nothing wrong with that.
>
> I doubt that Lennon had any deep convictions behind his radical songs of the Elephant's Memory phase. I think the radical causes were something that Yoko latched onto, and that, befuddled with Yoko and drugs, John went along with it. He was eager to disavow that shtick as "phony," born of guilt, and almost the ruin of his career.
I agree. I am starting to wonder if Yoko was some sort of controller, and John just let her use him like some sort of mind-controlled nebish...

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 by: Norbert K - Sun, 19 Feb 2023 20:30 UTC

On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 12:13:30 PM UTC-8, Pamela Brown wrote:
> On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 1:44:37 PM UTC-6, Norbert K wrote:
> > On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 10:55:55 AM UTC-8, Pamela Brown wrote:
> > > In The Legacy of John Lennon, by David Noebel, John gets the blame for the entire rock revolution...and even Altamont! I have been reading this book in hopes of gleaning some insight from someone who is -- obviously-- not a fan, only to find that this writer has gone way out on a limb...
> > >
> > > The book was written in the early 80's...
> > > nevertheless...
> > >
> > > The book also claims that at least some of the rock revolution was Soviet-inspired, and that when John/Beatles wrote about a revolution they were serious...that the 'more popular than Jesus' statement was not an off-hand comment, but an underlying objective...
> > That guy sounds like a nut! Is he even familiar with the (anti-violence, anti-hate, anti-Mao) lyrics of "Revolution"? The "More popular than Jesus" comment, viewed in context certainly seems offhand -- the comment of a person who had reached his goals, only to find himself bored and lacking in purpose. One could argue that the Beatles led the British Invasion of the 60s, but there's nothing wrong with that.
> >
> > I doubt that Lennon had any deep convictions behind his radical songs of the Elephant's Memory phase. I think the radical causes were something that Yoko latched onto, and that, befuddled with Yoko and drugs, John went along with it. He was eager to disavow that shtick as "phony," born of guilt, and almost the ruin of his career.
> I agree. I am starting to wonder if Yoko was some sort of controller, and John just let her use him like some sort of mind-controlled nebish...

I don't think the pre-LSD Lennon would have succumbed to Yoko. Not for more than a casual fling, anyway. (The Korean-Australian fashion designer Jenny Kee had a fling with Lennon in 1965, and it struck her how excited Lennon had been by her being Asian.)

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 by: Pamela Brown - Sun, 19 Feb 2023 21:27 UTC

On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 2:30:28 PM UTC-6, Norbert K wrote:
> On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 12:13:30 PM UTC-8, Pamela Brown wrote:
> > On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 1:44:37 PM UTC-6, Norbert K wrote:
> > > On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 10:55:55 AM UTC-8, Pamela Brown wrote:
> > > > In The Legacy of John Lennon, by David Noebel, John gets the blame for the entire rock revolution...and even Altamont! I have been reading this book in hopes of gleaning some insight from someone who is -- obviously-- not a fan, only to find that this writer has gone way out on a limb...
> > > >
> > > > The book was written in the early 80's...
> > > > nevertheless...
> > > >
> > > > The book also claims that at least some of the rock revolution was Soviet-inspired, and that when John/Beatles wrote about a revolution they were serious...that the 'more popular than Jesus' statement was not an off-hand comment, but an underlying objective...
> > > That guy sounds like a nut! Is he even familiar with the (anti-violence, anti-hate, anti-Mao) lyrics of "Revolution"? The "More popular than Jesus" comment, viewed in context certainly seems offhand -- the comment of a person who had reached his goals, only to find himself bored and lacking in purpose. One could argue that the Beatles led the British Invasion of the 60s, but there's nothing wrong with that.
> > >
> > > I doubt that Lennon had any deep convictions behind his radical songs of the Elephant's Memory phase. I think the radical causes were something that Yoko latched onto, and that, befuddled with Yoko and drugs, John went along with it. He was eager to disavow that shtick as "phony," born of guilt, and almost the ruin of his career.
> > I agree. I am starting to wonder if Yoko was some sort of controller, and John just let her use him like some sort of mind-controlled nebish...
> I don't think the pre-LSD Lennon would have succumbed to Yoko. Not for more than a casual fling, anyway. (The Korean-Australian fashion designer Jenny Kee had a fling with Lennon in 1965, and it struck her how excited Lennon had been by her being Asian.)
I'm starting to wonder if John could have been part of a mind-control experiment that also included Bob Dylan...
https://inbroaddaylight.wordpress.com/2021/05/17/what-if-someone-such-as-bob-dylan-is-an-experiment-an-hypothesis-for-an-alternate-reality/

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 by: Pamela Brown - Sun, 19 Feb 2023 21:38 UTC

On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 3:27:47 PM UTC-6, Pamela Brown wrote:
> On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 2:30:28 PM UTC-6, Norbert K wrote:
> > On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 12:13:30 PM UTC-8, Pamela Brown wrote:
> > > On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 1:44:37 PM UTC-6, Norbert K wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 10:55:55 AM UTC-8, Pamela Brown wrote:
> > > > > In The Legacy of John Lennon, by David Noebel, John gets the blame for the entire rock revolution...and even Altamont! I have been reading this book in hopes of gleaning some insight from someone who is -- obviously-- not a fan, only to find that this writer has gone way out on a limb...
> > > > >
> > > > > The book was written in the early 80's...
> > > > > nevertheless...
> > > > >
> > > > > The book also claims that at least some of the rock revolution was Soviet-inspired, and that when John/Beatles wrote about a revolution they were serious...that the 'more popular than Jesus' statement was not an off-hand comment, but an underlying objective...
> > > > That guy sounds like a nut! Is he even familiar with the (anti-violence, anti-hate, anti-Mao) lyrics of "Revolution"? The "More popular than Jesus" comment, viewed in context certainly seems offhand -- the comment of a person who had reached his goals, only to find himself bored and lacking in purpose. One could argue that the Beatles led the British Invasion of the 60s, but there's nothing wrong with that.
> > > >
> > > > I doubt that Lennon had any deep convictions behind his radical songs of the Elephant's Memory phase. I think the radical causes were something that Yoko latched onto, and that, befuddled with Yoko and drugs, John went along with it. He was eager to disavow that shtick as "phony," born of guilt, and almost the ruin of his career.
> > > I agree. I am starting to wonder if Yoko was some sort of controller, and John just let her use him like some sort of mind-controlled nebish...
> > I don't think the pre-LSD Lennon would have succumbed to Yoko. Not for more than a casual fling, anyway. (The Korean-Australian fashion designer Jenny Kee had a fling with Lennon in 1965, and it struck her how excited Lennon had been by her being Asian.)
> I'm starting to wonder if John could have been part of a mind-control experiment that also included Bob Dylan...
> https://inbroaddaylight.wordpress.com/2021/05/17/what-if-someone-such-as-bob-dylan-is-an-experiment-an-hypothesis-for-an-alternate-reality/
Correction...I meant to say I wonder if John was a victim...I do not consider Dylan a victim...

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Subject: Re: Just blame it on the tritone!
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 by: Pamela Brown - Tue, 23 May 2023 11:24 UTC

On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 3:38:38 PM UTC-6, Pamela Brown wrote:
> On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 3:27:47 PM UTC-6, Pamela Brown wrote:
> > On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 2:30:28 PM UTC-6, Norbert K wrote:
> > > On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 12:13:30 PM UTC-8, Pamela Brown wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 1:44:37 PM UTC-6, Norbert K wrote:
> > > > > On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 10:55:55 AM UTC-8, Pamela Brown wrote:
> > > > > > In The Legacy of John Lennon, by David Noebel, John gets the blame for the entire rock revolution...and even Altamont! I have been reading this book in hopes of gleaning some insight from someone who is -- obviously-- not a fan, only to find that this writer has gone way out on a limb...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The book was written in the early 80's...
> > > > > > nevertheless...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The book also claims that at least some of the rock revolution was Soviet-inspired, and that when John/Beatles wrote about a revolution they were serious...that the 'more popular than Jesus' statement was not an off-hand comment, but an underlying objective...
> > > > > That guy sounds like a nut! Is he even familiar with the (anti-violence, anti-hate, anti-Mao) lyrics of "Revolution"? The "More popular than Jesus" comment, viewed in context certainly seems offhand -- the comment of a person who had reached his goals, only to find himself bored and lacking in purpose. One could argue that the Beatles led the British Invasion of the 60s, but there's nothing wrong with that.
> > > > >
> > > > > I doubt that Lennon had any deep convictions behind his radical songs of the Elephant's Memory phase. I think the radical causes were something that Yoko latched onto, and that, befuddled with Yoko and drugs, John went along with it. He was eager to disavow that shtick as "phony," born of guilt, and almost the ruin of his career.
> > > > I agree. I am starting to wonder if Yoko was some sort of controller, and John just let her use him like some sort of mind-controlled nebish....
> > > I don't think the pre-LSD Lennon would have succumbed to Yoko. Not for more than a casual fling, anyway. (The Korean-Australian fashion designer Jenny Kee had a fling with Lennon in 1965, and it struck her how excited Lennon had been by her being Asian.)
> > I'm starting to wonder if John could have been part of a mind-control experiment that also included Bob Dylan...
> > https://inbroaddaylight.wordpress.com/2021/05/17/what-if-someone-such-as-bob-dylan-is-an-experiment-an-hypothesis-for-an-alternate-reality/
> Correction...I meant to say I wonder if John was a victim...I do not consider Dylan a victim...
Updated...
https://inbroaddaylight.wordpress.com/2021/05/17/what-if-someone-such-as-bob-dylan-is-an-experiment-an-hypothesis-for-an-alternate-reality/

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