"Philip Larkin would leave half-finished poems in a drawer for decades
until he found the right lines to complete them. Let’s reserve the word
'poet' for writers who respect language enough to do things like that."
https://www.theage.com.au/culture/music/bob-dylan-a-great-poet-a-great-delusion-more-like-it-20220502-p5ahrz.html

"Dumb ass. Real poets can write a poem as easily as some of us think.
In other words, it doesn’t take fucking decades."
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/i7lvIdnUvwU/m/PV9DS2-UAgAJ?hl=en

George J. Dance wrote:
>
> "Philip Larkin would leave half-finished poems in a drawer for decades
> until he found the right lines to complete them. Let’s reserve the word
> 'poet' for writers who respect language enough to do things like that."
> https://www.theage.com.au/culture/music/bob-dylan-a-great-poet-a-great-delusion-more-like-it-20220502-p5ahrz.html

> "Dumb ass. Real poets can write a poem as easily as some of us think.
> In other words, it doesn’t take fucking decades."
> https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/i7lvIdnUvwU/m/PV9DS2-UAgAJ?hl=en

"Different strokes for different folks."
-Sylvester Stone

George J. Dance wrote:
>
> "Philip Larkin would leave half-finished poems in a drawer for decades
> until he found the right lines to complete them. Let’s reserve the word
> 'poet' for writers who respect language enough to do things like that."
> https://www.theage.com.au/culture/music/bob-dylan-a-great-poet-a-great-delusion-more-like-it-20220502-p5ahrz.html

> "Dumb ass. Real poets can write a poem as easily as some of us think.
> In other words, it doesn’t take fucking decades."
> https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/i7lvIdnUvwU/m/PV9DS2-UAgAJ?hl=en

I actually have used both methods..... in poetry.... in art..... and in the video film I worked on for years, never finished... alas...

Victor H. wrote:

> George J. Dance wrote:
>>
>> "Philip Larkin would leave half-finished poems in a drawer for decades
>> until he found the right lines to complete them. Let’s reserve the word
>> 'poet' for writers who respect language enough to do things like that."
>> https://www.theage.com.au/culture/music/bob-dylan-a-great-poet-a-great-delusion-more-like-it-20220502-p5ahrz.html

>> "Dumb ass. Real poets can write a poem as easily as some of us think.
>> In other words, it doesn’t take fucking decades."
>> https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/i7lvIdnUvwU/m/PV9DS2-UAgAJ?hl=en

> I actually have used both methods..... in poetry.... in art..... and in the video film I worked on for years, never finished... alas...

Again, it definitely depends on the poem, as you know, some seem to come nearly complete, spontaneous.

Will Dockery wrote:

> George J. Dance wrote:
>>
>> "Philip Larkin would leave half-finished poems in a drawer for decades
>> until he found the right lines to complete them. Let’s reserve the word
>> 'poet' for writers who respect language enough to do things like that."
>> https://www.theage.com.au/culture/music/bob-dylan-a-great-poet-a-great-delusion-more-like-it-20220502-p5ahrz.html

>> "Dumb ass. Real poets can write a poem as easily as some of us think.
>> In other words, it doesn’t take fucking decades."
>> https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/i7lvIdnUvwU/m/PV9DS2-UAgAJ?hl=en

> "Different strokes for different folks."
> -Sylvester Stone

The wonderful freedom of poetry....

Victor H. wrote:

> Will Dockery wrote:

>> George J. Dance wrote:
>>>
>>> "Philip Larkin would leave half-finished poems in a drawer for decades
>>> until he found the right lines to complete them. Let’s reserve the word
>>> 'poet' for writers who respect language enough to do things like that."
>>> https://www.theage.com.au/culture/music/bob-dylan-a-great-poet-a-great-delusion-more-like-it-20220502-p5ahrz.html

>>> "Dumb ass. Real poets can write a poem as easily as some of us think.
>>> In other words, it doesn’t take fucking decades."
>>> https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/i7lvIdnUvwU/m/PV9DS2-UAgAJ?hl=en

>> "Different strokes for different folks."
>> -Sylvester Stone

> The wonderful freedom of poetry....

Agreed and seconded.

🙂

Will Dockery wrote:

> On Friday, July 22, 2022 at 2:42:42 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>>
>> "Philip Larkin would leave half-finished poems in a drawer for decades
>> until he found the right lines to complete them. Let’s reserve the word
>> 'poet' for writers who respect language enough to do things like that."
>> https://www.theage.com.au/culture/music/bob-dylan-a-great-poet-a-great-delusion-more-like-it-20220502-p5ahrz.html
>>
>> "Dumb ass. Real poets can write a poem as easily as some of us think.
>> In other words, it doesn’t take fucking decades."
>> https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/i7lvIdnUvwU/m/PV9DS2-UAgAJ?hl=en

> Good use of quotes, well put.

> 🙂

Agreed and seconded...

George J. Dance wrote:
>
> "Philip Larkin would leave half-finished poems in a drawer for decades
> until he found the right lines to complete them. Let’s reserve the word
> 'poet' for writers who respect language enough to do things like that."
> https://www.theage.com.au/culture/music/bob-dylan-a-great-poet-a-great-delusion-more-like-it-20220502-p5ahrz.html

> "Dumb ass. Real poets can write a poem as easily as some of us think.
> In other words, it doesn’t take fucking decades."
> https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/i7lvIdnUvwU/m/PV9DS2-UAgAJ?hl=en

Depends on the poem, of course.

Michael Pendragon wrote:

> George Dance wrote:
>
>> > > "Philip Larkin would leave half-finished poems in a drawer for decades
>> > > until he found the right lines to complete them. Let’s reserve the word
>> > > 'poet' for writers who respect language enough to do things like that.."
>> > > https://www.theage.com.au/culture/music/bob-dylan-a-great-poet-a-great-delusion-more-like-it-20220502-p5ahrz.html
>> > >
>> > > "Dumb ass. Real poets can write a poem as easily as some of us think.
>> > > In other words, it doesn’t take fucking decades."
>> > > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/i7lvIdnUvwU/m/PV9DS2-UAgAJ?hl=en
>

> And then there's the third category...

That's the ones like you, who second hand dreary rhymes and unimaginative themes from 200 year old classics, Pendragon?

We know.

Michael Pendragon wrote:

> George Dance wrote:
>
>> "Philip Larkin would leave half-finished poems in a drawer for decades
>> until he found the right lines to complete them. Let’s reserve the word
>> 'poet' for writers who respect language enough to do things like that."
>> https://www.theage.com.au/culture/music/bob-dylan-a-great-poet-a-great-delusion-more-like-it-20220502-p5ahrz.html
>>
>> "Dumb ass. Real poets can write a poem as easily as some of us think.
>> In other words, it doesn’t take fucking decades."
>> https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/i7lvIdnUvwU/m/PV9DS2-UAgAJ?hl=en

> The two views only appear to cancel one another out

Nobody says they do...

George J. Dance wrote:
>
> "Philip Larkin would leave half-finished poems in a drawer for decades
> until he found the right lines to complete them. Let’s reserve the word
> 'poet' for writers who respect language enough to do things like that."
> https://www.theage.com.au/culture/music/bob-dylan-a-great-poet-a-great-delusion-more-like-it-20220502-p5ahrz.html

> "Dumb ass. Real poets can write a poem as easily as some of us think.
> In other words, it doesn’t take fucking decades."
> https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/i7lvIdnUvwU/m/PV9DS2-UAgAJ?hl=en

I was thinking about this, this morning, as I've been in both areas with my poetry over the years.

Depends on the moment, really.

On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 8:45:16 AM UTC-4, W-Dockery wrote:
> George J. Dance wrote:
> >
> > "Philip Larkin would leave half-finished poems in a drawer for decades
> > until he found the right lines to complete them. Let’s reserve the word
> > 'poet' for writers who respect language enough to do things like that."
> > https://www.theage.com.au/culture/music/bob-dylan-a-great-poet-a-great-delusion-more-like-it-20220502-p5ahrz.html
>
> > "Dumb ass. Real poets can write a poem as easily as some of us think.
> > In other words, it doesn’t take fucking decades."
> > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/i7lvIdnUvwU/m/PV9DS2-UAgAJ?hl=en
> I was thinking about this, this morning, as I've been in both areas with my poetry over the years.
>
> Depends on the moment, really.

Yes, it depends on the situation, and on the work, too. I've completed poems in as long as it takes to write them down, and I've wrestled with others for decades.

One thing I didn't bother to point out, back on the aapc thread, but should is that neither of the above comments were written by poets.

Zod wrote:

> On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 8:45:16 AM UTC-4, W-Dockery wrote:
>> George J. Dance wrote:
>> >
>> > "Philip Larkin would leave half-finished poems in a drawer for decades
>> > until he found the right lines to complete them. Let’s reserve the word
>> > 'poet' for writers who respect language enough to do things like that."
>> > https://www.theage.com.au/culture/music/bob-dylan-a-great-poet-a-great-delusion-more-like-it-20220502-p5ahrz.html
>>
>> > "Dumb ass. Real poets can write a poem as easily as some of us think.
>> > In other words, it doesn’t take fucking decades."
>> > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/i7lvIdnUvwU/m/PV9DS2-UAgAJ?hl=en
>> I was thinking about this, this morning, as I've been in both areas with my poetry over the years.
>>
>> Depends on the moment, really.

> I daresay I am also in that boat of poetics.....

Good evening my friend, I hope you're doing well.

George J. Dance wrote:
>
> "Philip Larkin would leave half-finished poems in a drawer for decades
> until he found the right lines to complete them. Let’s reserve the word
> 'poet' for writers who respect language enough to do things like that."
> https://www.theage.com.au/culture/music/bob-dylan-a-great-poet-a-great-delusion-more-like-it-20220502-p5ahrz.html

> "Dumb ass. Real poets can write a poem as easily as some of us think.
> In other words, it doesn’t take fucking decades."
> https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/i7lvIdnUvwU/m/PV9DS2-UAgAJ?hl=en

This was discussed on the Leonard Cohen documentary I watched a few days ago.

George J. Dance wrote:
>
> "Philip Larkin would leave half-finished poems in a drawer for decades
> until he found the right lines to complete them. Let’s reserve the word
> 'poet' for writers who respect language enough to do things like that."
> https://www.theage.com.au/culture/music/bob-dylan-a-great-poet-a-great-delusion-more-like-it-20220502-p5ahrz.html

> "Dumb ass. Real poets can write a poem as easily as some of us think.
> In other words, it doesn’t take fucking decades."
> https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/i7lvIdnUvwU/m/PV9DS2-UAgAJ?hl=en

Again, well put.

Will Dockery wrote:

> George J. Dance wrote:
>>
>> "Philip Larkin would leave half-finished poems in a drawer for decades
>> until he found the right lines to complete them. Let’s reserve the word
>> 'poet' for writers who respect language enough to do things like that."
>> https://www.theage.com.au/culture/music/bob-dylan-a-great-poet-a-great-delusion-more-like-it-20220502-p5ahrz.html

>> "Dumb ass. Real poets can write a poem as easily as some of us think.
>> In other words, it doesn’t take fucking decades."
>> https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/i7lvIdnUvwU/m/PV9DS2-UAgAJ?hl=en

> "Different strokes for different folks."
> -Sylvester Stone

Good one...

General-Zod wrote:

> Will Dockery wrote:

>> George J. Dance wrote:
>>>
>>> "Philip Larkin would leave half-finished poems in a drawer for decades
>>> until he found the right lines to complete them. Let’s reserve the word
>>> 'poet' for writers who respect language enough to do things like that."
>>> https://www.theage.com.au/culture/music/bob-dylan-a-great-poet-a-great-delusion-more-like-it-20220502-p5ahrz.html

>>> "Dumb ass. Real poets can write a poem as easily as some of us think.
>>> In other words, it doesn’t take fucking decades."
>>> https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/i7lvIdnUvwU/m/PV9DS2-UAgAJ?hl=en

>> "Different strokes for different folks."
>> -Sylvester Stone

> Good one...

Worth another read, good find.

George J. Dance wrote:

> "Philip Larkin would leave half-finished poems in a drawer for decades
> until he found the right lines to complete them. Let’s reserve the word
> 'poet' for writers who respect language enough to do things like that."
> https://www.theage.com.au/culture/music/bob-dylan-a-great-poet-a-great-delusion-more-like-it-20220502-p5ahrz.html

> "Dumb ass. Real poets can write a poem as easily as some of us think.
> In other words, it doesn’t take fucking decades."
> https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/i7lvIdnUvwU/m/PV9DS2-UAgAJ?hl=en

Another read, of interest...

George J. Dance wrote:
>
> "Philip Larkin would leave half-finished poems in a drawer for decades
> until he found the right lines to complete them. Let’s reserve the word
> 'poet' for writers who respect language enough to do things like that."
> https://www.theage.com.au/culture/music/bob-dylan-a-great-poet-a-great-delusion-more-like-it-20220502-p5ahrz.html

> "Dumb ass. Real poets can write a poem as easily as some of us think.
> In other words, it doesn’t take fucking decades."
> https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/i7lvIdnUvwU/m/PV9DS2-UAgAJ?hl=en

Unsensored G.D.