On 2024-04-13 15:23:01 +0000, Arthur Lipscomb said:
> On 4/11/2024 2:13 PM, The Doctor wrote:
>> In article <nbv6A4B+GEGmFwWc@jhall_nospamxx.co.uk>,
>> John Hall <john@jhall.co.uk> wrote:
>>> In message <uv93fl$1pbbb$2@dont-email.me>, Cryptoengineer
>>> <petertrei@gmail.com> writes
>>>> The best Dr. Who decade is the decade in which
>>>> you first encounter the show.
>>>
>>> For me that was the 1960s, but I don't consider that the best decade.
>>> For me that would have to be the 1970s. And though William Hartnell was
>>> my first Doctor, I consider Tom Baker's Doctor the best. Colin Baker's
>>> was the worst - through no fault of his own, it was just that the way
>>> the series chose to develop his character was misguided IMO.
>>
>> Many seem to choose the 1970s.
>
> It's not, "The 70s." It's Tom Baker! LOL :-)

Yes and no. The late 1970s and early 1980s where pretty much the best
years for TV and movies. :-)

That's whay so much of the current talentless lazy-ass generation in
Hollyweird keeps trying to ressurrect those old ideas ... always with
awful versions, even when using the exact same cast. :-(

In article <uveg7i$346bv$1@dont-email.me>,
Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
>On 4/13/2024 7:38 AM, Cryptoengineer wrote:
>> John Hall <john_nospam@jhall.co.uk> wrote:
>>> In message <uv67tu$10nsn$1@dont-email.me>, Ubiquitous
>>> <weberm@polaris.net> writes
>>>> In article <uuvpup$lgg$2@gallifrey.nk.ca>, doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca wrote:
>>>>> Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
>>>>>> doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> 1970s?
>>>>>>> 1980s?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not sure which one, but leaning towards the 1980's.
>>>>>
>>>>> The JN-T years.
>>>>
>>>> I had Tom Baker and Peter Davidson in mind when I chose.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Wasn't Tom Baker the 1970s?
>>
>> The Best Decade was whatever decade you started watching.
>>
>Actually I would put it as "the best decade is whatever decade the
>episodes you first see were produced in".
>

when about the late 1980s?

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In article <uveh4a$34e9t$1@dont-email.me>,
Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 4/13/2024 1:43 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
>> On 4/13/2024 7:38 AM, Cryptoengineer wrote:
>>> John Hall <john_nospam@jhall.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> In message <uv67tu$10nsn$1@dont-email.me>, Ubiquitous
>>>> <weberm@polaris.net> writes
>>>>> In article <uuvpup$lgg$2@gallifrey.nk.ca>, doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Ubiquitous  <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1970s?
>>>>>>>> 1980s?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm not sure which one, but leaning towards the 1980's.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The JN-T years.
>>>>>
>>>>> I had Tom Baker and Peter Davidson in mind when I chose.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Wasn't Tom Baker the 1970s?
>>>
>>> The Best Decade was whatever decade you started watching.
>>>
>> Actually I would put it as "the best decade is whatever decade the
>> episodes you first see were produced in".
>
>In case its not clear, I'm riffing on the old SF Fan trope
>that 'The Golden Age of Science Fiction was whenever you were 13'.
>
>pt
>

For those still around.
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In article <uveuki$376kv$1@dont-email.me>,
Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>On 4/13/2024 10:58 AM, Cryptoengineer wrote:
>> On 4/13/2024 1:43 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
>>> On 4/13/2024 7:38 AM, Cryptoengineer wrote:
>>>> John Hall <john_nospam@jhall.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>> In message <uv67tu$10nsn$1@dont-email.me>, Ubiquitous
>>>>> <weberm@polaris.net> writes
>>>>>> In article <uuvpup$lgg$2@gallifrey.nk.ca>, doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Ubiquitous  <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 1970s?
>>>>>>>>> 1980s?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm not sure which one, but leaning towards the 1980's.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The JN-T years.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I had Tom Baker and Peter Davidson in mind when I chose.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Wasn't Tom Baker the 1970s?
>>>>
>>>> The Best Decade was whatever decade you started watching.
>>>>
>>> Actually I would put it as "the best decade is whatever decade the
>>> episodes you first see were produced in".
>>
>> In case its not clear, I'm riffing on the old SF Fan trope
>> that 'The Golden Age of Science Fiction was whenever you were 13'.
>>
>> pt
>>
>
>Close. 7 to 10. 1984 to 1987 which produced iconic movies like Aliens,
>The Fly, Ghostbusters, Beverly Hills Cop I and II, Temple of Doom, Back
>to the Future, Gremlins, Karate Kid I and II, Star Trek IV, The
>Neverending Story, Return to Oz, The Princess Bride, Transformers: The
>Movie and so much more! 40 years later these movies are still talked
>about and loved. Being a kid in the 80s will never be touched when it
>comes to the movie going experience!

Fun!!
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Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
> On 4/13/2024 10:58 AM, Cryptoengineer wrote:
>> On 4/13/2024 1:43 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
>>> On 4/13/2024 7:38 AM, Cryptoengineer wrote:
>>>> John Hall <john_nospam@jhall.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>> In message <uv67tu$10nsn$1@dont-email.me>, Ubiquitous
>>>>> <weberm@polaris.net> writes
>>>>>> In article <uuvpup$lgg$2@gallifrey.nk.ca>, doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Ubiquitous  <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 1970s?
>>>>>>>>> 1980s?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm not sure which one, but leaning towards the 1980's.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The JN-T years.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I had Tom Baker and Peter Davidson in mind when I chose.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Wasn't Tom Baker the 1970s?
>>>>
>>>> The Best Decade was whatever decade you started watching.
>>>>
>>> Actually I would put it as "the best decade is whatever decade the
>>> episodes you first see were produced in".
>>
>> In case its not clear, I'm riffing on the old SF Fan trope
>> that 'The Golden Age of Science Fiction was whenever you were 13'.
>>
>> pt
>>
>
> Close. 7 to 10. 1984 to 1987 which produced iconic movies like Aliens,
> The Fly, Ghostbusters, Beverly Hills Cop I and II, Temple of Doom, Back
> to the Future, Gremlins, Karate Kid I and II, Star Trek IV, The
> Neverending Story, Return to Oz, The Princess Bride, Transformers: The
> Movie and so much more! 40 years later these movies are still talked
> about and loved. Being a kid in the 80s will never be touched when it
> comes to the movie going experience!
>

My first decade for TV was the 60s - aged 4 to 8 I saw TV change from back
and white to colour and half of the TV I loved was imported - The Time
Tunnel, Land of the Giants, Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea, Lost in Space,
Batman, Spider-Man, The Man from UNCLE (not forgetting The Girl from
UNCLE), The Addams Family, Bewitched, I Dream of Jeanie, and of course the
wonder that was Star Trek and, not to mention, the Apollo space program
(the greatest TV of all for me in 1969).

But domestically we had The Avengers, The Champions, The Prisoner (which I
didn’t understand one little bit but still loved), Adam Adamant Lives!, The
Saint, Department S, The Owl Service. All the Gerry Anderson glory years of
puppetry - Fireball XL5, Stingray, Thunderbirds, Joe 90, Captain Scarlet
and the Mysterons, The Secret Service. And Doctor Who.

I didn’t get to go to the cinema in the 1960s so that all passed me by.

But the 70s - the 70s (9-19) were my golden age. The UK truly shone.
Catweazle. Monty Python. Timeslip. Jason King. The Protectors. The
Persuaders. Children of the Stones. Sky. UFO. Space 1999. Doomwatch.
Survivors. The Changes. Blake’s 7. The Tomorrow People. Sapphire and Steel.
The New Avengers. And Doctor Who.

And from abroad: Alias Smith & Jones (the only Western I loved as a kid).
Search. The Invisible Man. The Gemini Man. The Six Million Dollar Man (and
the Bionic Woman). The Incredible Hulk. Battlestar Galactica. The Fantastic
Journey. Logan’s Run. Star Trek TAS.

And the movies: Dark Star. Silent Running.Assorted Planet of the Apes
films. Star Wars. Close Encounters. Alien. Star Trek the Slow Motion
Picture. Willy Wonka. Young Frankenstein. The Black Hole. Damnation Alley.
Westworld (and Futureworld). The Omega Man. The Terminal Man. Death Race
2000. I Am Legend. Sleeper. Time After Time. Superman. Soylent Green. The
Forbin Project. Mad Max. The Andromeda Strain. Rollerball. Invasion of the
Body Snatchers. Phase IV. A Clockwork Orange. The Man Who Fell to Earth.
Solaris.

And that’s just the ones I can remember without looking anything up online!

The 60s were wonderful: the 80s were OK: but the 70s were my decade and my
golden age of sci fi and of Doctor Who. Even though I had loved Pat
Troughton as the Doctor, he was eclipsed by Pertwee and the earlier half of
Tom Baker (for me the rot set in with Romana II. The last great Tom story
was City of Death, the rest is just a coda).

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In article <uvg50f$3i4il$1@dont-email.me>,
The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>> On 4/13/2024 10:58 AM, Cryptoengineer wrote:
>>> On 4/13/2024 1:43 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
>>>> On 4/13/2024 7:38 AM, Cryptoengineer wrote:
>>>>> John Hall <john_nospam@jhall.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>> In message <uv67tu$10nsn$1@dont-email.me>, Ubiquitous
>>>>>> <weberm@polaris.net> writes
>>>>>>> In article <uuvpup$lgg$2@gallifrey.nk.ca>, doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Ubiquitous  <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 1970s?
>>>>>>>>>> 1980s?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure which one, but leaning towards the 1980's.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The JN-T years.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I had Tom Baker and Peter Davidson in mind when I chose.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wasn't Tom Baker the 1970s?
>>>>>
>>>>> The Best Decade was whatever decade you started watching.
>>>>>
>>>> Actually I would put it as "the best decade is whatever decade the
>>>> episodes you first see were produced in".
>>>
>>> In case its not clear, I'm riffing on the old SF Fan trope
>>> that 'The Golden Age of Science Fiction was whenever you were 13'.
>>>
>>> pt
>>>
>>
>> Close. 7 to 10. 1984 to 1987 which produced iconic movies like Aliens,
>> The Fly, Ghostbusters, Beverly Hills Cop I and II, Temple of Doom, Back
>> to the Future, Gremlins, Karate Kid I and II, Star Trek IV, The
>> Neverending Story, Return to Oz, The Princess Bride, Transformers: The
>> Movie and so much more! 40 years later these movies are still talked
>> about and loved. Being a kid in the 80s will never be touched when it
>> comes to the movie going experience!
>>
>
>My first decade for TV was the 60s - aged 4 to 8 I saw TV change from back
>and white to colour and half of the TV I loved was imported - The Time
>Tunnel, Land of the Giants, Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea, Lost in Space,
>Batman, Spider-Man, The Man from UNCLE (not forgetting The Girl from
>UNCLE), The Addams Family, Bewitched, I Dream of Jeanie, and of course the
>wonder that was Star Trek and, not to mention, the Apollo space program
>(the greatest TV of all for me in 1969).
>
>But domestically we had The Avengers, The Champions, The Prisoner (which I
>didn’t understand one little bit but still loved), Adam Adamant Lives!, The
>Saint, Department S, The Owl Service. All the Gerry Anderson glory years of
>puppetry - Fireball XL5, Stingray, Thunderbirds, Joe 90, Captain Scarlet
>and the Mysterons, The Secret Service. And Doctor Who.
>
>I didn’t get to go to the cinema in the 1960s so that all passed me by.
>
>But the 70s - the 70s (9-19) were my golden age. The UK truly shone.
>Catweazle. Monty Python. Timeslip. Jason King. The Protectors. The
>Persuaders. Children of the Stones. Sky. UFO. Space 1999. Doomwatch.
>Survivors. The Changes. Blake’s 7. The Tomorrow People. Sapphire and Steel.
>The New Avengers. And Doctor Who.
>
>And from abroad: Alias Smith & Jones (the only Western I loved as a kid).
>Search. The Invisible Man. The Gemini Man. The Six Million Dollar Man (and
>the Bionic Woman). The Incredible Hulk. Battlestar Galactica. The Fantastic
>Journey. Logan’s Run. Star Trek TAS.
>
>And the movies: Dark Star. Silent Running.Assorted Planet of the Apes
>films. Star Wars. Close Encounters. Alien. Star Trek the Slow Motion
>Picture. Willy Wonka. Young Frankenstein. The Black Hole. Damnation Alley.
>Westworld (and Futureworld). The Omega Man. The Terminal Man. Death Race
>2000. I Am Legend. Sleeper. Time After Time. Superman. Soylent Green. The
>Forbin Project. Mad Max. The Andromeda Strain. Rollerball. Invasion of the
>Body Snatchers. Phase IV. A Clockwork Orange. The Man Who Fell to Earth.
>Solaris.
>
>And that’s just the ones I can remember without looking anything up online!
>
>The 60s were wonderful: the 80s were OK: but the 70s were my decade and my
>golden age of sci fi and of Doctor Who. Even though I had loved Pat
>Troughton as the Doctor, he was eclipsed by Pertwee and the earlier half of
>Tom Baker (for me the rot set in with Romana II. The last great Tom story
>was City of Death, the rest is just a coda).
>

Love the analysis!!

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On 4/14/2024 03:43, The Last Doctor wrote:

>
> And the movies: Dark Star. Silent Running.

Two movies that almost /nobody/ mentions these days...especially Dark
Star! I thought I was the only person left that still knew about Dark Star.

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In article <37SSN.19401808$ee1.7084428@fx16.ams4>,
Hornplayer9599 <Hornplayer9599@aol.com> wrote:
>On 4/14/2024 03:43, The Last Doctor wrote:
>
>>
>> And the movies: Dark Star. Silent Running.
>
>Two movies that almost /nobody/ mentions these days...especially Dark
>Star! I thought I was the only person left that still knew about Dark Star.
>

There you go!

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>
>Intelligence is no guarantee against being dead wrong.
>--Carl Sagan
>

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On 4/14/2024 1:43 AM, The Last Doctor wrote:
> Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>> On 4/13/2024 10:58 AM, Cryptoengineer wrote:
>>> On 4/13/2024 1:43 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
>>>> On 4/13/2024 7:38 AM, Cryptoengineer wrote:
>>>>> John Hall <john_nospam@jhall.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>> In message <uv67tu$10nsn$1@dont-email.me>, Ubiquitous
>>>>>> <weberm@polaris.net> writes
>>>>>>> In article <uuvpup$lgg$2@gallifrey.nk.ca>, doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Ubiquitous  <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 1970s?
>>>>>>>>>> 1980s?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure which one, but leaning towards the 1980's.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The JN-T years.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I had Tom Baker and Peter Davidson in mind when I chose.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wasn't Tom Baker the 1970s?
>>>>>
>>>>> The Best Decade was whatever decade you started watching.
>>>>>
>>>> Actually I would put it as "the best decade is whatever decade the
>>>> episodes you first see were produced in".
>>>
>>> In case its not clear, I'm riffing on the old SF Fan trope
>>> that 'The Golden Age of Science Fiction was whenever you were 13'.
>>>
>>> pt
>>>
>>
>> Close. 7 to 10. 1984 to 1987 which produced iconic movies like Aliens,
>> The Fly, Ghostbusters, Beverly Hills Cop I and II, Temple of Doom, Back
>> to the Future, Gremlins, Karate Kid I and II, Star Trek IV, The
>> Neverending Story, Return to Oz, The Princess Bride, Transformers: The
>> Movie and so much more! 40 years later these movies are still talked
>> about and loved. Being a kid in the 80s will never be touched when it
>> comes to the movie going experience!
>>
>
> My first decade for TV was the 60s - aged 4 to 8 I saw TV change from back
> and white to colour and half of the TV I loved was imported - The Time
> Tunnel, Land of the Giants, Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea, Lost in Space,
> Batman, Spider-Man, The Man from UNCLE (not forgetting The Girl from
> UNCLE), The Addams Family, Bewitched, I Dream of Jeanie, and of course the
> wonder that was Star Trek and, not to mention, the Apollo space program
> (the greatest TV of all for me in 1969).
>

I watched all of these on reruns when I was a kid. I know it wasn't
first hand experience but discovering all of these new shows when I was
younger was still loads of fun. And sometimes I had no idea I was
watching reruns of long canceled shows.

> But domestically we had The Avengers, The Champions, The Prisoner (which I
> didn’t understand one little bit but still loved),

I think the first episode I ever saw of the Prisoner was "The Girl Who
Was Death." I knew nothing about the show, but that being my first
episode I was hooked and assumed the entire series was like that. LOL

Adam Adamant Lives!, The
> Saint, Department S, The Owl Service. All the Gerry Anderson glory years of
> puppetry - Fireball XL5, Stingray, Thunderbirds, Joe 90, Captain Scarlet
> and the Mysterons, The Secret Service. And Doctor Who.
>
> I didn’t get to go to the cinema in the 1960s so that all passed me by.
>
> But the 70s - the 70s (9-19) were my golden age. The UK truly shone.
> Catweazle. Monty Python. Timeslip. Jason King. The Protectors. The
> Persuaders. Children of the Stones. Sky. UFO. Space 1999. Doomwatch.
> Survivors. The Changes. Blake’s 7. The Tomorrow People. Sapphire and Steel.
> The New Avengers. And Doctor Who.
>

A lot of the British sci-fi shows aired on PBS when I was a kid. I was
generally aware of them, but other than Doctor Who, didn't really seek
them out to watch. Some of these names I recognize (and watched) and
some I've never heard of before. To this day I've never watched a
single frame of Blake's 7, yet I surprisingly know a lot about it,
including how it ends! LOL

> And from abroad: Alias Smith & Jones (the only Western I loved as a kid).
> Search. The Invisible Man. The Gemini Man. The Six Million Dollar Man (and
> the Bionic Woman). The Incredible Hulk. Battlestar Galactica. The Fantastic
> Journey. Logan’s Run. Star Trek TAS.
>
> And the movies: Dark Star. Silent Running.

I've never watched Dark Star of Silent Running, although I am somewhat
aware of Silent Running. That's the one with the talking bomb? Or is
that Dark Star?

Assorted Planet of the Apes
> films. Star Wars. Close Encounters. Alien. Star Trek the Slow Motion
> Picture. Willy Wonka. Young Frankenstein. The Black Hole. Damnation Alley.
> Westworld (and Futureworld). The Omega Man. The Terminal Man. Death Race
> 2000. I Am Legend. Sleeper. Time After Time. Superman. Soylent Green. The
> Forbin Project. Mad Max. The Andromeda Strain. Rollerball. Invasion of the
> Body Snatchers. Phase IV. A Clockwork Orange. The Man Who Fell to Earth.
> Solaris.
>
> And that’s just the ones I can remember without looking anything up online!
>

Growing up I watched and enjoyed all of that on TV. :-)

> The 60s were wonderful: the 80s were OK: but the 70s were my decade and my
> golden age of sci fi and of Doctor Who. Even though I had loved Pat
> Troughton as the Doctor, he was eclipsed by Pertwee and the earlier half of
> Tom Baker (for me the rot set in with Romana II. The last great Tom story
> was City of Death, the rest is just a coda).
>

I love "City of Death" it is one of my all time favorites.

On 4/14/2024 1:43 AM, The Last Doctor wrote:
> Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>> On 4/13/2024 10:58 AM, Cryptoengineer wrote:
>>> On 4/13/2024 1:43 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
>>>> On 4/13/2024 7:38 AM, Cryptoengineer wrote:
>>>>> John Hall <john_nospam@jhall.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>> In message <uv67tu$10nsn$1@dont-email.me>, Ubiquitous
>>>>>> <weberm@polaris.net> writes
>>>>>>> In article <uuvpup$lgg$2@gallifrey.nk.ca>, doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Ubiquitous  <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 1970s?
>>>>>>>>>> 1980s?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure which one, but leaning towards the 1980's.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The JN-T years.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I had Tom Baker and Peter Davidson in mind when I chose.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wasn't Tom Baker the 1970s?
>>>>>
>>>>> The Best Decade was whatever decade you started watching.
>>>>>
>>>> Actually I would put it as "the best decade is whatever decade the
>>>> episodes you first see were produced in".
>>>
>>> In case its not clear, I'm riffing on the old SF Fan trope
>>> that 'The Golden Age of Science Fiction was whenever you were 13'.
>>>
>>> pt
>>>
>>
>> Close. 7 to 10. 1984 to 1987 which produced iconic movies like Aliens,
>> The Fly, Ghostbusters, Beverly Hills Cop I and II, Temple of Doom, Back
>> to the Future, Gremlins, Karate Kid I and II, Star Trek IV, The
>> Neverending Story, Return to Oz, The Princess Bride, Transformers: The
>> Movie and so much more! 40 years later these movies are still talked
>> about and loved. Being a kid in the 80s will never be touched when it
>> comes to the movie going experience!
>>
>
> My first decade for TV was the 60s - aged 4 to 8 I saw TV change from back
> and white to colour and half of the TV I loved was imported - The Time
> Tunnel, Land of the Giants, Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea, Lost in Space,
> Batman, Spider-Man, The Man from UNCLE (not forgetting The Girl from
> UNCLE), The Addams Family, Bewitched, I Dream of Jeanie, and of course the
> wonder that was Star Trek and, not to mention, the Apollo space program
> (the greatest TV of all for me in 1969).
>

I watched all of these on reruns when I was a kid. I know it wasn't
first hand experience but discovering all of these new shows when I was
younger was still loads of fun. And sometimes I had no idea I was
watching reruns of long canceled shows.

> But domestically we had The Avengers, The Champions, The Prisoner (which I
> didn’t understand one little bit but still loved),

I think the first episode I ever saw of the Prisoner was "The Girl Who
Was Death." I knew nothing about the show, but that being my first
episode I was hooked and assumed the entire series was like that. LOL

Adam Adamant Lives!, The
> Saint, Department S, The Owl Service. All the Gerry Anderson glory years of
> puppetry - Fireball XL5, Stingray, Thunderbirds, Joe 90, Captain Scarlet
> and the Mysterons, The Secret Service. And Doctor Who.
>
> I didn’t get to go to the cinema in the 1960s so that all passed me by.
>
> But the 70s - the 70s (9-19) were my golden age. The UK truly shone.
> Catweazle. Monty Python. Timeslip. Jason King. The Protectors. The
> Persuaders. Children of the Stones. Sky. UFO. Space 1999. Doomwatch.
> Survivors. The Changes. Blake’s 7. The Tomorrow People. Sapphire and Steel.
> The New Avengers. And Doctor Who.
>

A lot of the British sci-fi shows aired on PBS when I was a kid. I was
generally aware of them, but other than Doctor Who, didn't really seek
them out to watch. Some of these names I recognize (and watched) and
some I've never heard of before. To this day I've never watched a
single frame of Blake's 7, yet I surprisingly know a lot about it,
including how it ends! LOL

> And from abroad: Alias Smith & Jones (the only Western I loved as a kid).
> Search. The Invisible Man. The Gemini Man. The Six Million Dollar Man (and
> the Bionic Woman). The Incredible Hulk. Battlestar Galactica. The Fantastic
> Journey. Logan’s Run. Star Trek TAS.
>
> And the movies: Dark Star. Silent Running.

I've never watched Dark Star of Silent Running, although I am somewhat
aware of Silent Running. That's the one with the talking bomb? Or is
that Dark Star?

Assorted Planet of the Apes
> films. Star Wars. Close Encounters. Alien. Star Trek the Slow Motion
> Picture. Willy Wonka. Young Frankenstein. The Black Hole. Damnation Alley.
> Westworld (and Futureworld). The Omega Man. The Terminal Man. Death Race
> 2000. I Am Legend. Sleeper. Time After Time. Superman. Soylent Green. The
> Forbin Project. Mad Max. The Andromeda Strain. Rollerball. Invasion of the
> Body Snatchers. Phase IV. A Clockwork Orange. The Man Who Fell to Earth.
> Solaris.
>
> And that’s just the ones I can remember without looking anything up online!
>

Growing up I watched and enjoyed all of that on TV. :-)

> The 60s were wonderful: the 80s were OK: but the 70s were my decade and my
> golden age of sci fi and of Doctor Who. Even though I had loved Pat
> Troughton as the Doctor, he was eclipsed by Pertwee and the earlier half of
> Tom Baker (for me the rot set in with Romana II. The last great Tom story
> was City of Death, the rest is just a coda).
>

I love "City of Death" it is one of my all time favorites.

Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
> On 4/14/2024 1:43 AM, The Last Doctor wrote:
>> Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>>> On 4/13/2024 10:58 AM, Cryptoengineer wrote:
>>>> On 4/13/2024 1:43 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
>>>>> On 4/13/2024 7:38 AM, Cryptoengineer wrote:
>>>>>> John Hall <john_nospam@jhall.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>> In message <uv67tu$10nsn$1@dont-email.me>, Ubiquitous
>>>>>>> <weberm@polaris.net> writes
>>>>>>>> In article <uuvpup$lgg$2@gallifrey.nk.ca>, doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Ubiquitous  <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 1970s?
>>>>>>>>>>> 1980s?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure which one, but leaning towards the 1980's.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The JN-T years.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I had Tom Baker and Peter Davidson in mind when I chose.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wasn't Tom Baker the 1970s?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Best Decade was whatever decade you started watching.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Actually I would put it as "the best decade is whatever decade the
>>>>> episodes you first see were produced in".
>>>>
>>>> In case its not clear, I'm riffing on the old SF Fan trope
>>>> that 'The Golden Age of Science Fiction was whenever you were 13'.
>>>>
>>>> pt
>>>>
>>>
>>> Close. 7 to 10. 1984 to 1987 which produced iconic movies like Aliens,
>>> The Fly, Ghostbusters, Beverly Hills Cop I and II, Temple of Doom, Back
>>> to the Future, Gremlins, Karate Kid I and II, Star Trek IV, The
>>> Neverending Story, Return to Oz, The Princess Bride, Transformers: The
>>> Movie and so much more! 40 years later these movies are still talked
>>> about and loved. Being a kid in the 80s will never be touched when it
>>> comes to the movie going experience!
>>>
>>
>> My first decade for TV was the 60s - aged 4 to 8 I saw TV change from back
>> and white to colour and half of the TV I loved was imported - The Time
>> Tunnel, Land of the Giants, Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea, Lost in Space,
>> Batman, Spider-Man, The Man from UNCLE (not forgetting The Girl from
>> UNCLE), The Addams Family, Bewitched, I Dream of Jeanie, and of course the
>> wonder that was Star Trek and, not to mention, the Apollo space program
>> (the greatest TV of all for me in 1969).
>>
>
> I watched all of these on reruns when I was a kid. I know it wasn't
> first hand experience but discovering all of these new shows when I was
> younger was still loads of fun. And sometimes I had no idea I was
> watching reruns of long canceled shows.
>
>> But domestically we had The Avengers, The Champions, The Prisoner (which I
>> didn’t understand one little bit but still loved),
>
>
> I think the first episode I ever saw of the Prisoner was "The Girl Who
> Was Death." I knew nothing about the show, but that being my first
> episode I was hooked and assumed the entire series was like that. LOL
>

Heh

>
> Adam Adamant Lives!, The
>> Saint, Department S, The Owl Service. All the Gerry Anderson glory years of
>> puppetry - Fireball XL5, Stingray, Thunderbirds, Joe 90, Captain Scarlet
>> and the Mysterons, The Secret Service. And Doctor Who.
>>
>> I didn’t get to go to the cinema in the 1960s so that all passed me by.
>>
>> But the 70s - the 70s (9-19) were my golden age. The UK truly shone.
>> Catweazle. Monty Python. Timeslip. Jason King. The Protectors. The
>> Persuaders. Children of the Stones. Sky. UFO. Space 1999. Doomwatch.
>> Survivors. The Changes. Blake’s 7. The Tomorrow People. Sapphire and Steel.
>> The New Avengers. And Doctor Who.
>>
>
> A lot of the British sci-fi shows aired on PBS when I was a kid. I was
> generally aware of them, but other than Doctor Who, didn't really seek
> them out to watch. Some of these names I recognize (and watched) and
> some I've never heard of before. To this day I've never watched a
> single frame of Blake's 7, yet I surprisingly know a lot about it,
> including how it ends! LOL
>
>
>> And from abroad: Alias Smith & Jones (the only Western I loved as a kid).
>> Search. The Invisible Man. The Gemini Man. The Six Million Dollar Man (and
>> the Bionic Woman). The Incredible Hulk. Battlestar Galactica. The Fantastic
>> Journey. Logan’s Run. Star Trek TAS.
>>
>> And the movies: Dark Star. Silent Running.
>
> I've never watched Dark Star of Silent Running, although I am somewhat
> aware of Silent Running. That's the one with the talking bomb? Or is
> that Dark Star?

Dark Star is the talking bomb.

>
>
> Assorted Planet of the Apes
>> films. Star Wars. Close Encounters. Alien. Star Trek the Slow Motion
>> Picture. Willy Wonka. Young Frankenstein. The Black Hole. Damnation Alley.
>> Westworld (and Futureworld). The Omega Man. The Terminal Man. Death Race
>> 2000. I Am Legend. Sleeper. Time After Time. Superman. Soylent Green. The
>> Forbin Project. Mad Max. The Andromeda Strain. Rollerball. Invasion of the
>> Body Snatchers. Phase IV. A Clockwork Orange. The Man Who Fell to Earth.
>> Solaris.
>>
>> And that’s just the ones I can remember without looking anything up online!
>>
>
>
> Growing up I watched and enjoyed all of that on TV. :-)
>
>> The 60s were wonderful: the 80s were OK: but the 70s were my decade and my
>> golden age of sci fi and of Doctor Who. Even though I had loved Pat
>> Troughton as the Doctor, he was eclipsed by Pertwee and the earlier half of
>> Tom Baker (for me the rot set in with Romana II. The last great Tom story
>> was City of Death, the rest is just a coda).
>>
>
> I love "City of Death" it is one of my all time favorites.
>
>

--
The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

In article <uvhgms$3r512$1@dont-email.me>,
Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>On 4/14/2024 1:43 AM, The Last Doctor wrote:
>> Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>>> On 4/13/2024 10:58 AM, Cryptoengineer wrote:
>>>> On 4/13/2024 1:43 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
>>>>> On 4/13/2024 7:38 AM, Cryptoengineer wrote:
>>>>>> John Hall <john_nospam@jhall.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>> In message <uv67tu$10nsn$1@dont-email.me>, Ubiquitous
>>>>>>> <weberm@polaris.net> writes
>>>>>>>> In article <uuvpup$lgg$2@gallifrey.nk.ca>, doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Ubiquitous  <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 1970s?
>>>>>>>>>>> 1980s?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure which one, but leaning towards the 1980's.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The JN-T years.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I had Tom Baker and Peter Davidson in mind when I chose.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wasn't Tom Baker the 1970s?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Best Decade was whatever decade you started watching.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Actually I would put it as "the best decade is whatever decade the
>>>>> episodes you first see were produced in".
>>>>
>>>> In case its not clear, I'm riffing on the old SF Fan trope
>>>> that 'The Golden Age of Science Fiction was whenever you were 13'.
>>>>
>>>> pt
>>>>
>>>
>>> Close. 7 to 10. 1984 to 1987 which produced iconic movies like Aliens,
>>> The Fly, Ghostbusters, Beverly Hills Cop I and II, Temple of Doom, Back
>>> to the Future, Gremlins, Karate Kid I and II, Star Trek IV, The
>>> Neverending Story, Return to Oz, The Princess Bride, Transformers: The
>>> Movie and so much more! 40 years later these movies are still talked
>>> about and loved. Being a kid in the 80s will never be touched when it
>>> comes to the movie going experience!
>>>
>>
>> My first decade for TV was the 60s - aged 4 to 8 I saw TV change from back
>> and white to colour and half of the TV I loved was imported - The Time
>> Tunnel, Land of the Giants, Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea, Lost in Space,
>> Batman, Spider-Man, The Man from UNCLE (not forgetting The Girl from
>> UNCLE), The Addams Family, Bewitched, I Dream of Jeanie, and of course the
>> wonder that was Star Trek and, not to mention, the Apollo space program
>> (the greatest TV of all for me in 1969).
>>
>
>I watched all of these on reruns when I was a kid. I know it wasn't
>first hand experience but discovering all of these new shows when I was
>younger was still loads of fun. And sometimes I had no idea I was
>watching reruns of long canceled shows.
>
>> But domestically we had The Avengers, The Champions, The Prisoner (which I
>> didn’t understand one little bit but still loved),
>
>
>I think the first episode I ever saw of the Prisoner was "The Girl Who
>Was Death." I knew nothing about the show, but that being my first
>episode I was hooked and assumed the entire series was like that. LOL
>
>
>Adam Adamant Lives!, The
>> Saint, Department S, The Owl Service. All the Gerry Anderson glory years of
>> puppetry - Fireball XL5, Stingray, Thunderbirds, Joe 90, Captain Scarlet
>> and the Mysterons, The Secret Service. And Doctor Who.
>>
>> I didn’t get to go to the cinema in the 1960s so that all passed me by.
>>
>> But the 70s - the 70s (9-19) were my golden age. The UK truly shone.
>> Catweazle. Monty Python. Timeslip. Jason King. The Protectors. The
>> Persuaders. Children of the Stones. Sky. UFO. Space 1999. Doomwatch.
>> Survivors. The Changes. Blake’s 7. The Tomorrow People. Sapphire and Steel.
>> The New Avengers. And Doctor Who.
>>
>
>A lot of the British sci-fi shows aired on PBS when I was a kid. I was
>generally aware of them, but other than Doctor Who, didn't really seek
>them out to watch. Some of these names I recognize (and watched) and
>some I've never heard of before. To this day I've never watched a
>single frame of Blake's 7, yet I surprisingly know a lot about it,
>including how it ends! LOL
>
>
>> And from abroad: Alias Smith & Jones (the only Western I loved as a kid).
>> Search. The Invisible Man. The Gemini Man. The Six Million Dollar Man (and
>> the Bionic Woman). The Incredible Hulk. Battlestar Galactica. The Fantastic
>> Journey. Logan’s Run. Star Trek TAS.
>>
>> And the movies: Dark Star. Silent Running.
>
>I've never watched Dark Star of Silent Running, although I am somewhat
>aware of Silent Running. That's the one with the talking bomb? Or is
>that Dark Star?
>
>
>Assorted Planet of the Apes
>> films. Star Wars. Close Encounters. Alien. Star Trek the Slow Motion
>> Picture. Willy Wonka. Young Frankenstein. The Black Hole. Damnation Alley.
>> Westworld (and Futureworld). The Omega Man. The Terminal Man. Death Race
>> 2000. I Am Legend. Sleeper. Time After Time. Superman. Soylent Green. The
>> Forbin Project. Mad Max. The Andromeda Strain. Rollerball. Invasion of the
>> Body Snatchers. Phase IV. A Clockwork Orange. The Man Who Fell to Earth.
>> Solaris.
>>
>> And that’s just the ones I can remember without looking anything up online!
>>
>
>
>Growing up I watched and enjoyed all of that on TV. :-)
>
>> The 60s were wonderful: the 80s were OK: but the 70s were my decade and my
>> golden age of sci fi and of Doctor Who. Even though I had loved Pat
>> Troughton as the Doctor, he was eclipsed by Pertwee and the earlier half of
>> Tom Baker (for me the rot set in with Romana II. The last great Tom story
>> was City of Death, the rest is just a coda).
>>
>
>I love "City of Death" it is one of my all time favorites.
>

John Cleese , Julian Glover and a few!
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> > >
> >
> >
> > My first decade for TV was the 60s - aged 4 to 8 I saw TV change from back
> > and white to colour and half of the TV I loved was imported - The Time
> > Tunnel, Land of the Giants, Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea, Lost in Space,
> > Batman, Spider-Man, The Man from UNCLE (not forgetting The Girl from
> > UNCLE), The Addams Family, Bewitched, I Dream of Jeanie, and of course the
> > wonder that was Star Trek and, not to mention, the Apollo space program
> > (the greatest TV of all for me in 1969).
>
> I watched all of these on reruns when I was a kid. I know it wasn't
> first hand experience but discovering all of these new shows when I was
> younger was still loads of fun. And sometimes I had no idea I was
> watching reruns of long canceled shows.

And you and I got to see the real reruns! I'm told that
in early syndication the black and white seasons
were not included, so if you didn't see it as premieres,
you could not see the first season of I Dream Of Jeannie,
the first two seasons of Bewitched, the first season
of Lost In Space, etc.

>
> > But domestically we had The Avengers, The Champions, The Prisoner (which I
> > didn´t understand one little bit but still loved),

I've just started Out Of The Unknown from 1965.
In this case it's the later color episodes that
are more likely to be missing, permanently. On
DVD, of course, if TV channels would ever show
this old British TV they'd go and chop off the top and
bottom of the screen, making it unwatchable.

I first Doctor Who episode I saw was a few years
ago with the first episode of the first series from 1963,
and it was thanks to the miracle of the DVD format that I
rented it at a video store. I loved the theme tune, and I
suppose I've never heard it before. My interest into
seeing Doctor Who came from seeing a featured article on
wikipedia on Fury From The Deep (1968) with it's crazy picture:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fury_from_the_Deep

> >
> > But the 70s - the 70s (9-19) were my golden age. The UK truly shone.
> > Catweazle. Monty Python. Timeslip. Jason King. The Protectors. The
> > Persuaders. Children of the Stones. Sky. UFO. Space 1999. Doomwatch.
> > Survivors. The Changes. Blake´s 7. The Tomorrow People. Sapphire and Steel.
> > The New Avengers. And Doctor Who.

Catweazle looks fun, so I bought that on DVD, but haven't
watched it yet. Same with The New Avengers, though what
I saw of it looks like it's been dehumoured compared to the
older Avengers. In America only one episode of the New Avengers
was released on DVD, and just the first half of a two part
episode.

>
> > The 60s were wonderful: the 80s were OK: but the 70s were my decade and my
> > golden age of sci fi and of Doctor Who. Even though I had loved Pat
> > Troughton as the Doctor,

But we don't get to see much of Troughton so it's hard to
judge. All his stovepipeness is missing.

> > he was eclipsed by Pertwee and the earlier half of
> > Tom Baker (for me the rot set in with Romana II. The last great Tom story
> > was City of Death, the rest is just a coda).
>
> I love "City of Death" it is one of my all time favorites.

I read about that series so was sure to buy it, and again
had to get an Out Of Region DVD because Doctor Who
was so poorly served in America.

On 4/14/2024 6:07 PM, Pluted Pup wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> My first decade for TV was the 60s - aged 4 to 8 I saw TV change from back
>>> and white to colour and half of the TV I loved was imported - The Time
>>> Tunnel, Land of the Giants, Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea, Lost in Space,
>>> Batman, Spider-Man, The Man from UNCLE (not forgetting The Girl from
>>> UNCLE), The Addams Family, Bewitched, I Dream of Jeanie, and of course the
>>> wonder that was Star Trek and, not to mention, the Apollo space program
>>> (the greatest TV of all for me in 1969).
>>
>> I watched all of these on reruns when I was a kid. I know it wasn't
>> first hand experience but discovering all of these new shows when I was
>> younger was still loads of fun. And sometimes I had no idea I was
>> watching reruns of long canceled shows.
>
> And you and I got to see the real reruns! I'm told that
> in early syndication the black and white seasons
> were not included, so if you didn't see it as premieres,
> you could not see the first season of I Dream Of Jeannie,
> the first two seasons of Bewitched, the first season
> of Lost In Space, etc.
>
>>
>>> But domestically we had The Avengers, The Champions, The Prisoner (which I
>>> didn´t understand one little bit but still loved),
>
> I've just started Out Of The Unknown from 1965.
> In this case it's the later color episodes that
> are more likely to be missing, permanently. On
> DVD, of course, if TV channels would ever show
> this old British TV they'd go and chop off the top and
> bottom of the screen, making it unwatchable.
>
> I first Doctor Who episode I saw was a few years
> ago with the first episode of the first series from 1963,
> and it was thanks to the miracle of the DVD format that I
> rented it at a video store. I loved the theme tune, and I
> suppose I've never heard it before. My interest into
> seeing Doctor Who came from seeing a featured article on
> wikipedia on Fury From The Deep (1968) with it's crazy picture:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fury_from_the_Deep
>
>>>
>>> But the 70s - the 70s (9-19) were my golden age. The UK truly shone.
>>> Catweazle. Monty Python. Timeslip. Jason King. The Protectors. The
>>> Persuaders. Children of the Stones. Sky. UFO. Space 1999. Doomwatch.
>>> Survivors. The Changes. Blake´s 7. The Tomorrow People. Sapphire and Steel.
>>> The New Avengers. And Doctor Who.
>
> Catweazle looks fun, so I bought that on DVD, but haven't
> watched it yet. Same with The New Avengers, though what
> I saw of it looks like it's been dehumoured compared to the
> older Avengers. In America only one episode of the New Avengers
> was released on DVD, and just the first half of a two part
> episode.
>
>>
>>> The 60s were wonderful: the 80s were OK: but the 70s were my decade and my
>>> golden age of sci fi and of Doctor Who. Even though I had loved Pat
>>> Troughton as the Doctor,
>
> But we don't get to see much of Troughton so it's hard to
> judge. All his stovepipeness is missing.
>

Now that you mention it...and I think I can do this from memory...the
only Troughton I've ever seen were the later episodes where he teamed
up, "The Three Doctors," "The Five Doctors," and "The Two Doctors." My
local PBS also aired "Tomb of the Cyberman" (I can't believe I remember
these names!) when the BBC found it in some vault.

>>> he was eclipsed by Pertwee and the earlier half of
>>> Tom Baker (for me the rot set in with Romana II. The last great Tom story
>>> was City of Death, the rest is just a coda).
>>
>> I love "City of Death" it is one of my all time favorites.
>
> I read about that series so was sure to buy it, and again
> had to get an Out Of Region DVD because Doctor Who
> was so poorly served in America.
>
>

My local PBS station was run by a (I'm assuming) huge Doctor Who/Red
Dwarf fan so we got tons of Who and Red Dwarf and they would even fly in
Red Dwarf actors for telethons. If I recall correctly, when they aired
The Prisoner he would do trivia and dress up. 80s/early 90s SF Bay Area
was a great time to be a Doctor Who/Red Dwarf fan.

In article <uvi699$2uj5$1@dont-email.me>,
Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>On 4/14/2024 6:07 PM, Pluted Pup wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My first decade for TV was the 60s - aged 4 to 8 I saw TV change from back
>>>> and white to colour and half of the TV I loved was imported - The Time
>>>> Tunnel, Land of the Giants, Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea, Lost in Space,
>>>> Batman, Spider-Man, The Man from UNCLE (not forgetting The Girl from
>>>> UNCLE), The Addams Family, Bewitched, I Dream of Jeanie, and of course the
>>>> wonder that was Star Trek and, not to mention, the Apollo space program
>>>> (the greatest TV of all for me in 1969).
>>>
>>> I watched all of these on reruns when I was a kid. I know it wasn't
>>> first hand experience but discovering all of these new shows when I was
>>> younger was still loads of fun. And sometimes I had no idea I was
>>> watching reruns of long canceled shows.
>>
>> And you and I got to see the real reruns! I'm told that
>> in early syndication the black and white seasons
>> were not included, so if you didn't see it as premieres,
>> you could not see the first season of I Dream Of Jeannie,
>> the first two seasons of Bewitched, the first season
>> of Lost In Space, etc.
>>
>>>
>>>> But domestically we had The Avengers, The Champions, The Prisoner (which I
>>>> didn´t understand one little bit but still loved),
>>
>> I've just started Out Of The Unknown from 1965.
>> In this case it's the later color episodes that
>> are more likely to be missing, permanently. On
>> DVD, of course, if TV channels would ever show
>> this old British TV they'd go and chop off the top and
>> bottom of the screen, making it unwatchable.
>>
>> I first Doctor Who episode I saw was a few years
>> ago with the first episode of the first series from 1963,
>> and it was thanks to the miracle of the DVD format that I
>> rented it at a video store. I loved the theme tune, and I
>> suppose I've never heard it before. My interest into
>> seeing Doctor Who came from seeing a featured article on
>> wikipedia on Fury From The Deep (1968) with it's crazy picture:
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fury_from_the_Deep
>>
>>>>
>>>> But the 70s - the 70s (9-19) were my golden age. The UK truly shone.
>>>> Catweazle. Monty Python. Timeslip. Jason King. The Protectors. The
>>>> Persuaders. Children of the Stones. Sky. UFO. Space 1999. Doomwatch.
>>>> Survivors. The Changes. Blake´s 7. The Tomorrow People. Sapphire and Steel.
>>>> The New Avengers. And Doctor Who.
>>
>> Catweazle looks fun, so I bought that on DVD, but haven't
>> watched it yet. Same with The New Avengers, though what
>> I saw of it looks like it's been dehumoured compared to the
>> older Avengers. In America only one episode of the New Avengers
>> was released on DVD, and just the first half of a two part
>> episode.
>>
>>>
>>>> The 60s were wonderful: the 80s were OK: but the 70s were my decade and my
>>>> golden age of sci fi and of Doctor Who. Even though I had loved Pat
>>>> Troughton as the Doctor,
>>
>> But we don't get to see much of Troughton so it's hard to
>> judge. All his stovepipeness is missing.
>>
>
>Now that you mention it...and I think I can do this from memory...the
>only Troughton I've ever seen were the later episodes where he teamed
>up, "The Three Doctors," "The Five Doctors," and "The Two Doctors." My
>local PBS also aired "Tomb of the Cyberman" (I can't believe I remember
>these names!) when the BBC found it in some vault.
>
>
>>>> he was eclipsed by Pertwee and the earlier half of
>>>> Tom Baker (for me the rot set in with Romana II. The last great Tom story
>>>> was City of Death, the rest is just a coda).
>>>
>>> I love "City of Death" it is one of my all time favorites.
>>
>> I read about that series so was sure to buy it, and again
>> had to get an Out Of Region DVD because Doctor Who
>> was so poorly served in America.
>>
>>
>
>My local PBS station was run by a (I'm assuming) huge Doctor Who/Red
>Dwarf fan so we got tons of Who and Red Dwarf and they would even fly in
>Red Dwarf actors for telethons. If I recall correctly, when they aired
>The Prisoner he would do trivia and dress up. 80s/early 90s SF Bay Area
>was a great time to be a Doctor Who/Red Dwarf fan.

Some good BBC Scifi years them!
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The Doctor wrote:

> In article <uvi699$2uj5$1@dont-email.me>,
> Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
> >
> > My local PBS station was run by a (I'm assuming) huge Doctor
> > Who/Red Dwarf fan so we got tons of Who and Red Dwarf and
> > they would even fly in Red Dwarf actors for telethons. If I
> > recall correctly, when they aired The Prisoner he would do
> > trivia and dress up. 80s/early 90s SF Bay Area was a great
> > time to be a Doctor Who/Red Dwarf fan.
>
> Some good BBC Scifi years them!

The BBC produced some great SF [ish] stuff back then, not just
"Doctor Who" and "Red Dwarf"... there was "Quatermass",
"Doomwatch", "Blakes 7", "The Tripods" and the [original]
"Survivors"... the BBC did that stuff really well and a lot of
it is vastly underrated.

Pluted Pup wrote on 15/4/24 11:07 am:

<Snip>

> And you and I got to see the real reruns! I'm told that
> in early syndication the black and white seasons
> were not included, so if you didn't see it as premieres,
> you could not see the first season of I Dream Of Jeannie,
> the first two seasons of Bewitched, the first season
> of Lost In Space, etc.

"the first two seasons of Bewitched" ... the first season was with 'The
Other' Darrin, wasn't it??
--
Daniel

Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> Pluted Pup wrote on 15/4/24 11:07 am:
>
> <Snip>
>
>> And you and I got to see the real reruns! I'm told that
>> in early syndication the black and white seasons
>> were not included, so if you didn't see it as premieres,
>> you could not see the first season of I Dream Of Jeannie,
>> the first two seasons of Bewitched, the first season
>> of Lost In Space, etc.
>
> "the first two seasons of Bewitched" ... the first season was with 'The
> Other' Darrin, wasn't it??

The first five seasons are the real Derwood. The excruciatingly unfunny
final three seasons are the excruciatingly unfunny fake Deerwood.

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In article <xn0oklmee4l0ooh002@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>The Doctor wrote:
>
>> In article <uvi699$2uj5$1@dont-email.me>,
>> Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > My local PBS station was run by a (I'm assuming) huge Doctor
>> > Who/Red Dwarf fan so we got tons of Who and Red Dwarf and
>> > they would even fly in Red Dwarf actors for telethons. If I
>> > recall correctly, when they aired The Prisoner he would do
>> > trivia and dress up. 80s/early 90s SF Bay Area was a great
>> > time to be a Doctor Who/Red Dwarf fan.
>>
>> Some good BBC Scifi years them!
>
>The BBC produced some great SF [ish] stuff back then, not just
>"Doctor Who" and "Red Dwarf"... there was "Quatermass",
>"Doomwatch", "Blakes 7", "The Tripods" and the [original]
>"Survivors"... the BBC did that stuff really well and a lot of
>it is vastly underrated.

Fully agreed with that statement!
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On 4/14/2024 4:11 PM, Arthur Lipscomb wrote:
> On 4/14/2024 1:43 AM, The Last Doctor wrote:
>> Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>>> On 4/13/2024 10:58 AM, Cryptoengineer wrote:
>>>> On 4/13/2024 1:43 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
>>>>> On 4/13/2024 7:38 AM, Cryptoengineer wrote:
>>>>>> John Hall <john_nospam@jhall.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>> In message <uv67tu$10nsn$1@dont-email.me>, Ubiquitous
>>>>>>> <weberm@polaris.net> writes
>>>>>>>> In article <uuvpup$lgg$2@gallifrey.nk.ca>, doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Ubiquitous  <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 1970s?
>>>>>>>>>>> 1980s?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure which one, but leaning towards the 1980's.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The JN-T years.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I had Tom Baker and Peter Davidson in mind when I chose.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wasn't Tom Baker the 1970s?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Best Decade was whatever decade you started watching.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Actually I would put it as "the best decade is whatever decade the
>>>>> episodes you first see were produced in".
>>>>
>>>> In case its not clear, I'm riffing on the old SF Fan trope
>>>> that 'The Golden Age of Science Fiction was whenever you were 13'.
>>>>
>>>> pt
>>>>
>>>
>>> Close.  7 to 10.  1984 to 1987 which produced iconic movies like Aliens,
>>> The Fly, Ghostbusters, Beverly Hills Cop I and II, Temple of Doom, Back
>>> to the Future, Gremlins, Karate Kid I and II, Star Trek IV, The
>>> Neverending Story, Return to Oz, The Princess Bride, Transformers: The
>>> Movie and so much more!  40 years later these movies are still talked
>>> about and loved.  Being a kid in the 80s will never be touched when it
>>> comes to the movie going experience!
>>>
>>
>> My first decade for TV was the 60s - aged 4 to 8 I saw TV change from
>> back
>> and white to colour and half of the TV I loved was imported - The Time
>> Tunnel, Land of the Giants, Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea, Lost in
>> Space,
>> Batman, Spider-Man, The Man from UNCLE (not forgetting The Girl from
>> UNCLE), The Addams Family, Bewitched, I Dream of Jeanie, and of course
>> the
>> wonder that was Star Trek and, not to mention, the Apollo space program
>> (the greatest TV of all for me in 1969).
>>
>
> I watched all of these on reruns when I was a kid.  I know it wasn't
> first hand experience but discovering all of these new shows when I was
> younger was still loads of fun.  And sometimes I had no idea I was
> watching reruns of long canceled shows.
>
>> But domestically we had The Avengers, The Champions, The Prisoner
>> (which I
>> didn’t understand one little bit but still loved),
>
>
> I think the first episode I ever saw of the Prisoner was "The Girl Who
> Was Death."  I knew nothing about the show, but that being my first
> episode I was hooked and assumed the entire series was like that.  LOL

Despite living in Britain 1968-78, I missed The Prisoner the first time
around. It probably conflicted with some more popular show ion my
boarding school's TV room.

I was at university in London, when another student from America
excitedly told me there was a rerun. I'd never heard of the show,
and he told me a little about it, including the dreamlike set for
The Village.

'Arrival' came on, and as soon as Number 6 starts exploring his
new environment, I turned to my friend and said 'Oh, I've been there'.

He was flabbergasted.

But yes, I'd been to Portmerion. Indeed later, I stayed there overnight
with my fiance.

pt

In article <uvjiea$c16o$1@dont-email.me>,
Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 4/14/2024 4:11 PM, Arthur Lipscomb wrote:
>> On 4/14/2024 1:43 AM, The Last Doctor wrote:
>>> Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>>>> On 4/13/2024 10:58 AM, Cryptoengineer wrote:
>>>>> On 4/13/2024 1:43 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
>>>>>> On 4/13/2024 7:38 AM, Cryptoengineer wrote:
>>>>>>> John Hall <john_nospam@jhall.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>> In message <uv67tu$10nsn$1@dont-email.me>, Ubiquitous
>>>>>>>> <weberm@polaris.net> writes
>>>>>>>>> In article <uuvpup$lgg$2@gallifrey.nk.ca>, doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Ubiquitous  <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1970s?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1980s?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure which one, but leaning towards the 1980's.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The JN-T years.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I had Tom Baker and Peter Davidson in mind when I chose.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Wasn't Tom Baker the 1970s?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Best Decade was whatever decade you started watching.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Actually I would put it as "the best decade is whatever decade the
>>>>>> episodes you first see were produced in".
>>>>>
>>>>> In case its not clear, I'm riffing on the old SF Fan trope
>>>>> that 'The Golden Age of Science Fiction was whenever you were 13'.
>>>>>
>>>>> pt
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Close.  7 to 10.  1984 to 1987 which produced iconic movies like Aliens,
>>>> The Fly, Ghostbusters, Beverly Hills Cop I and II, Temple of Doom, Back
>>>> to the Future, Gremlins, Karate Kid I and II, Star Trek IV, The
>>>> Neverending Story, Return to Oz, The Princess Bride, Transformers: The
>>>> Movie and so much more!  40 years later these movies are still talked
>>>> about and loved.  Being a kid in the 80s will never be touched when it
>>>> comes to the movie going experience!
>>>>
>>>
>>> My first decade for TV was the 60s - aged 4 to 8 I saw TV change from
>>> back
>>> and white to colour and half of the TV I loved was imported - The Time
>>> Tunnel, Land of the Giants, Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea, Lost in
>>> Space,
>>> Batman, Spider-Man, The Man from UNCLE (not forgetting The Girl from
>>> UNCLE), The Addams Family, Bewitched, I Dream of Jeanie, and of course
>>> the
>>> wonder that was Star Trek and, not to mention, the Apollo space program
>>> (the greatest TV of all for me in 1969).
>>>
>>
>> I watched all of these on reruns when I was a kid.  I know it wasn't
>> first hand experience but discovering all of these new shows when I was
>> younger was still loads of fun.  And sometimes I had no idea I was
>> watching reruns of long canceled shows.
>>
>>> But domestically we had The Avengers, The Champions, The Prisoner
>>> (which I
>>> didn’t understand one little bit but still loved),
>>
>>
>> I think the first episode I ever saw of the Prisoner was "The Girl Who
>> Was Death."  I knew nothing about the show, but that being my first
>> episode I was hooked and assumed the entire series was like that.  LOL
>
>Despite living in Britain 1968-78, I missed The Prisoner the first time
>around. It probably conflicted with some more popular show ion my
>boarding school's TV room.
>
>I was at university in London, when another student from America
>excitedly told me there was a rerun. I'd never heard of the show,
>and he told me a little about it, including the dreamlike set for
>The Village.
>
>'Arrival' came on, and as soon as Number 6 starts exploring his
>new environment, I turned to my friend and said 'Oh, I've been there'.
>
>He was flabbergasted.
>
>But yes, I'd been to Portmerion. Indeed later, I stayed there overnight
>with my fiance.
>
>pt
>

A nice place to visit I hear!
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On 2024-04-15 10:50:36 +0000, Daniel70 said:
> Pluted Pup wrote on 15/4/24 11:07 am:
>
> <Snip>
>
>> And you and I got to see the real reruns! I'm told that
>> in early syndication the black and white seasons
>> were not included, so if you didn't see it as premieres,
>> you could not see the first season of I Dream Of Jeannie,
>> the first two seasons of Bewitched, the first season
>> of Lost In Space, etc.
>
> "the first two seasons of Bewitched" ... the first season was with 'The
> Other' Darrin, wasn't it??

A lot of these old shows from various eras, British and American, are
shown in New Zealand (and Australia?) on the Sky TV channel "Jones!".
There are quite a few old black and white shows and episodes, including
many old westerns like "The Lone Ranger", "Bonanza", etc.

There used to be a second channel as well, 'creatively' named "Jones!
Too", but they stupidly closed that down at the start of this month.
:-(

In article <uvk96r$h7oq$1@dont-email.me>,
Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>On 2024-04-15 10:50:36 +0000, Daniel70 said:
>> Pluted Pup wrote on 15/4/24 11:07 am:
>>
>> <Snip>
>>
>>> And you and I got to see the real reruns! I'm told that
>>> in early syndication the black and white seasons
>>> were not included, so if you didn't see it as premieres,
>>> you could not see the first season of I Dream Of Jeannie,
>>> the first two seasons of Bewitched, the first season
>>> of Lost In Space, etc.
>>
>> "the first two seasons of Bewitched" ... the first season was with 'The
>> Other' Darrin, wasn't it??
>
>A lot of these old shows from various eras, British and American, are
>shown in New Zealand (and Australia?) on the Sky TV channel "Jones!".
>There are quite a few old black and white shows and episodes, including
>many old westerns like "The Lone Ranger", "Bonanza", etc.
>
>There used to be a second channel as well, 'creatively' named "Jones!
>Too", but they stupidly closed that down at the start of this month.
>:-(
>

star Cops anyone?
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anim8rfsk wrote on 15/4/24 11:59 pm:
> Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>> Pluted Pup wrote on 15/4/24 11:07 am:
>>
>> <Snip>
>>
>>> And you and I got to see the real reruns! I'm told that
>>> in early syndication the black and white seasons
>>> were not included, so if you didn't see it as premieres,
>>> you could not see the first season of I Dream Of Jeannie,
>>> the first two seasons of Bewitched, the first season
>>> of Lost In Space, etc.
>>
>> "the first two seasons of Bewitched" ... the first season was with 'The
>> Other' Darrin, wasn't it??
>
> The first five seasons are the real Derwood. The excruciatingly unfunny
> final three seasons are the excruciatingly unfunny fake Deerwood.
>
Oh!! Did I/Australia miss several seasons?? I thought it was one season
with one Darrin and then several with the other.

No, I'm wrong AGAIN!! ....
'The gangly York is best remembered as the first and most frustrated
"Darrin Stephens" on the long-running TV series Bewitched (1964). He
left the series in 1969 because of a chronic back ailment. ....'

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On 4/15/2024 4:28 PM, The Doctor wrote:
> In article <uvk96r$h7oq$1@dont-email.me>,
> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>> On 2024-04-15 10:50:36 +0000, Daniel70 said:
>>> Pluted Pup wrote on 15/4/24 11:07 am:
>>>
>>> <Snip>
>>>
>>>> And you and I got to see the real reruns! I'm told that
>>>> in early syndication the black and white seasons
>>>> were not included, so if you didn't see it as premieres,
>>>> you could not see the first season of I Dream Of Jeannie,
>>>> the first two seasons of Bewitched, the first season
>>>> of Lost In Space, etc.
>>>
>>> "the first two seasons of Bewitched" ... the first season was with 'The
>>> Other' Darrin, wasn't it??
>>
>> A lot of these old shows from various eras, British and American, are
>> shown in New Zealand (and Australia?) on the Sky TV channel "Jones!".
>> There are quite a few old black and white shows and episodes, including
>> many old westerns like "The Lone Ranger", "Bonanza", etc.
>>
>> There used to be a second channel as well, 'creatively' named "Jones!
>> Too", but they stupidly closed that down at the start of this month.
>> :-(
>>
>
> star Cops anyone?

Never saw it before. But there was a different, I think British, sci-fi
show with a very similar name and every time someone says Star Cops I
immediately think of that other show. I was really confused the first
time I heard someone say Star Cops and they weren't talking about the
other show.

Found it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNEmi01Of2s