On Tuesday, April 4, 2023 at 8:59:50 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
> On Friday, March 31, 2023 at 4:01:10 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
>
> > You seem to be referencing May's statements about Yoko.
> > I am referencing May's statements about John...
> Okay. Which statements of May's sound like Yoko to you?
>
> I'm struck by the contrasts in Yoko's and May's statements about John. Yoko began hammering away at the theme of John's homo- or bisexuality practically since his murder. Yet when Geraldo Rivera asked May if John was bisexual, May answered emphatically: "Not with me." After a night at gay clubs with Sal Mineo and Elliot Mintz, John told May that he wanted people to think he was gay. May responded, "Nobody would consider a man who loves women as much as you do gay."
>
> Yoko was dismissive of John's and the Beatles' music. May is full of praise for it.
>
> The two women simply had starkly different attitudes towards Lennon.

Are you denying that they both claimed they 'loved' John and somehow managed to tolerate him in spite of all his bad behavior?

On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 5:47:58 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 6:39:53 AM UTC-4, Pamela Brown wrote:
> > On Tuesday, April 4, 2023 at 8:59:50 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
> > > On Friday, March 31, 2023 at 4:01:10 AM UTC-7, Pamela Brown wrote:
> > >
> > > > You seem to be referencing May's statements about Yoko.
> > > > I am referencing May's statements about John...
> > > Okay. Which statements of May's sound like Yoko to you?
> > >
> > > I'm struck by the contrasts in Yoko's and May's statements about John.. Yoko began hammering away at the theme of John's homo- or bisexuality practically since his murder. Yet when Geraldo Rivera asked May if John was bisexual, May answered emphatically: "Not with me." After a night at gay clubs with Sal Mineo and Elliot Mintz, John told May that he wanted people to think he was gay. May responded, "Nobody would consider a man who loves women as much as you do gay."
> > >
> > > Yoko was dismissive of John's and the Beatles' music. May is full of praise for it.
> > >
> > > The two women simply had starkly different attitudes towards Lennon.
> > Are you denying that they both claimed they 'loved' John and somehow managed to tolerate him in spite of all his bad behavior?
> No, I agree with that. However, I believe that May's claim of loving JL was true, while Yoko's was not.

I don't agree. May's parroting Yoko babble raises a red flag...

On February 13, Norbert K wrote:
>> https://dvk6to1kg8ie0.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/aPEd91M.jpeg
>
> This is the image Yoko used for the cover of her first post-Dec. 1980 album, Season of Glass.
> Does anyone have any speculations as to why she would do this?

Art. The artistry of death.

Look at 20th century art, the modernists/surrealists/expressionists,
they did that type of thing. It's supposed to be shocking, "in your face"... punk

I can imagine Lou Reed doing something like that -

--
Rich

On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 1:44:41 PM UTC-5, Rich D wrote:
> On February 13, Norbert K wrote:
> >> https://dvk6to1kg8ie0.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/aPEd91M.jpeg
> >
> > This is the image Yoko used for the cover of her first post-Dec. 1980 album, Season of Glass.
> > Does anyone have any speculations as to why she would do this?
> Art. The artistry of death.
>
> Look at 20th century art, the modernists/surrealists/expressionists,
> they did that type of thing. It's supposed to be shocking, "in your face".... punk
>
> I can imagine Lou Reed doing something like that -
>
> --
> Rich
To me it represents a symbol of victory...a perfect murder....
He was lured to his doom...

On Sunday, February 12, 2023 at 6:38:41 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> https://dvk6to1kg8ie0.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/aPEd91M.jpeg

Bad taste for sure. What her motive was WTF knows?

I still have to wonder if Yoko tried to put a curse on my friend Jay and me when we stood for at least two hours talking with the garage attendant who had been there when John was shot. He pointed to the window in the corner of the 7th floor. There was a light on. She's at home, he assured us, because her car was in the courtyard. That's her study, he said...There was an eeriness, but that I expected to experience because of the tragedy that had taken place there.
But then, as soon as we flew back to Minnesota, Jay's lung collapsed and he almost died. And then not long after that his brother, Jeff, who looked a lot like Jay, killed himself. I think we were in her thrall that day...

Pamela

On Wednesday, December 6, 2023 at 10:00:19 PM UTC-6, pamina58 wrote:
> I still have to wonder if Yoko tried to put a curse on my friend Jay and me when we stood for at least two hours talking with the garage attendant who had been there when John was shot. He pointed to the window in the corner of the 7th floor. There was a light on. She's at home, he assured us, because her car was in the courtyard. That's her study, he said...There was an eeriness, but that I expected to experience because of the tragedy that had taken place there.
> But then, as soon as we flew back to Minnesota, Jay's lung collapsed and he almost died. And then not long after that his brother, Jeff, who looked a lot like Jay, killed himself. I think we were in her thrall that day...
>
> Pamela
With all the spamming, I want to bump this...

On Saturday, December 9, 2023 at 9:28:39 PM UTC-6, Pamela Brown wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 6, 2023 at 10:00:19 PM UTC-6, pamina58 wrote:
> > I still have to wonder if Yoko tried to put a curse on my friend Jay and me when we stood for at least two hours talking with the garage attendant who had been there when John was shot. He pointed to the window in the corner of the 7th floor. There was a light on. She's at home, he assured us, because her car was in the courtyard. That's her study, he said...There was an eeriness, but that I expected to experience because of the tragedy that had taken place there.
> > But then, as soon as we flew back to Minnesota, Jay's lung collapsed and he almost died. And then not long after that his brother, Jeff, who looked a lot like Jay, killed himself. I think we were in her thrall that day...
> >
> > Pamela
> With all the spamming, I want to bump this...
Article re Roosevelt Hospital...
https://www.upstate.edu/whatsup/2011/1207-dr-david-halleran-the-surgeon-who-tried-to-save-john-lennons-life-recalls-the-events-of-dec-8-1980.php

On Sunday, December 17, 2023 at 3:47:21 PM UTC-6, Pamela Brown wrote:
> On Saturday, December 9, 2023 at 9:28:39 PM UTC-6, Pamela Brown wrote:
> > On Wednesday, December 6, 2023 at 10:00:19 PM UTC-6, pamina58 wrote:
> > > I still have to wonder if Yoko tried to put a curse on my friend Jay and me when we stood for at least two hours talking with the garage attendant who had been there when John was shot. He pointed to the window in the corner of the 7th floor. There was a light on. She's at home, he assured us, because her car was in the courtyard. That's her study, he said...There was an eeriness, but that I expected to experience because of the tragedy that had taken place there.
> > > But then, as soon as we flew back to Minnesota, Jay's lung collapsed and he almost died. And then not long after that his brother, Jeff, who looked a lot like Jay, killed himself. I think we were in her thrall that day....
> > >
> > > Pamela
> > With all the spamming, I want to bump this...
> Article re Roosevelt Hospital...
> https://www.upstate.edu/whatsup/2011/1207-dr-david-halleran-the-surgeon-who-tried-to-save-john-lennons-life-recalls-the-events-of-dec-8-1980.php
Some who spoke out...
https://ultimateclassicrock.com/john-lennon-murder-rock-star-reactions/

On Monday, December 18, 2023 at 5:02:51 AM UTC-8, Pamela Brown wrote:
> On Sunday, December 17, 2023 at 3:47:21 PM UTC-6, Pamela Brown wrote:
> > On Saturday, December 9, 2023 at 9:28:39 PM UTC-6, Pamela Brown wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, December 6, 2023 at 10:00:19 PM UTC-6, pamina58 wrote:
> > > > I still have to wonder if Yoko tried to put a curse on my friend Jay and me when we stood for at least two hours talking with the garage attendant who had been there when John was shot. He pointed to the window in the corner of the 7th floor. There was a light on. She's at home, he assured us, because her car was in the courtyard. That's her study, he said...There was an eeriness, but that I expected to experience because of the tragedy that had taken place there.
> > > > But then, as soon as we flew back to Minnesota, Jay's lung collapsed and he almost died. And then not long after that his brother, Jeff, who looked a lot like Jay, killed himself. I think we were in her thrall that day...
> > > >
> > > > Pamela
> > > With all the spamming, I want to bump this...
> > Article re Roosevelt Hospital...
> > https://www.upstate.edu/whatsup/2011/1207-dr-david-halleran-the-surgeon-who-tried-to-save-john-lennons-life-recalls-the-events-of-dec-8-1980.php
> Some who spoke out...
> https://ultimateclassicrock.com/john-lennon-murder-rock-star-reactions/

Coincidentally, Julian Lennon had become a big Rush fan in the late 1970s. When Neil Peart's death was announced, Julian paid tribute to the virtuoso drummer on social media.

BTW, good to see a real post in this group, Pamela!

On Sunday, February 12, 2023 at 3:38:41 PM UTC-8, Bruce wrote:
> https://dvk6to1kg8ie0.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/aPEd91M.jpeg

Incidentally, on the cover of Ono's atrocious Season of Glass album, these bloody glasses are positioned next to a glass of water. The predictable interpretation of this is that Yoko is asking: "Is the glass half-empty or half-full?"

However, May Pang mentions in her book that, in the mid-70s, Ono had become enthralled with a psychic who claimed to be able to summon spirits of the dead over the most prosaic of artefacts: a glass of water.