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* Re: Ginsberg's Rohrshach poemsGeneral-Zod
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 by: General-Zod - Tue, 2 Aug 2022 18:57 UTC

Will Dockery wrote:
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> Agreed with A, not his best but worth a read.

Allen Ginsberg could tend to get a tad explicit with his erotic poems....

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 by: W.Dockery - Thu, 4 Aug 2022 17:45 UTC

General-Zod wrote:

> Will Dockery wrote:
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>> Agreed with A, not his best but worth a read.

> Allen Ginsberg could tend to get a tad explicit with his erotic poems....

Yes, a form of Confessional poetry.

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 by: Rocky Stoneberg - Mon, 8 Aug 2022 22:03 UTC

Will Dockery wrote:

> General-Zod wrote:

>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>>
>>> Agreed with A, not his best but worth a read.

>> Allen Ginsberg could tend to get a tad explicit with his erotic poems....

> Yes, a form of Confessional poetry.

Allen Ginsberg was excellent with that poetry form...

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 by: W-Dockery - Thu, 11 Aug 2022 14:46 UTC

Zod wrote:

> Will Dockery wrote:

>> General-Zod wrote:

>>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Agreed with A, not his best but worth a read.

>>> Allen Ginsberg could tend to get a tad explicit with his erotic poems....

>> Yes, a form of Confessional poetry.

> Allen Ginsberg was excellent with that poetry form...

Yes, one of the greatest.

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 by: W.Dockery - Sat, 27 Aug 2022 01:11 UTC

General-Zod wrote:

> Will Dockery wrote:
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>> Agreed with A, not his best but worth a read.

> Allen Ginsberg could tend to get a tad explicit with his erotic poems....

To say the least.

🙂

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 by: Victor H. - Thu, 15 Sep 2022 20:58 UTC

Will Dockery wrote:
> General-Zod wrote:

>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>>
>>> Agreed with A, not his best but worth a read.

>> Allen Ginsberg could tend to get a tad explicit with his erotic poems....

> Yes, a form of Confessional poetry.

Indeed...

https://poets.org/text/brief-guide-confessional-poetry

**************Confessional poetry is the poetry of the personal or “I.” This style of writing emerged in the late 1950s and early 1960s and is associated with poets such as Robert Lowell, Sylvia Plath, Anne Sexton, and W. D. Snodgrass. Lowell’s book, Life Studies, was a highly personal account of his life and familial ties and had a significant impact on American poetry. Plath and Sexton were both students of Lowell and noted that his work influenced their own writing.

The confessional poetry of the mid-twentieth century dealt with subject matter that previously had not been openly discussed in American poetry. Private experiences with and feelings about death, trauma, depression, and relationships were addressed in this type of poetry, often in an autobiographical manner. Sexton, in particular, was interested in the psychological aspect of poetry, having started writing at the suggestion of her therapist.

The confessional poets were not merely recording their emotions on paper; craft and construction were extremely important to their work. While their treatment of the poetic self may have been groundbreaking and shocking to some readers, these poets maintained a high level of craftsmanship through their careful attention to and use of prosody.**********************

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 by: W.Dockery - Mon, 19 Sep 2022 18:43 UTC

Zod wrote:

> Will Dockery wrote:
>> General-Zod wrote:

>>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Agreed with A, not his best but worth a read.

>>> Allen Ginsberg could tend to get a tad explicit with his erotic poems....

>> Yes, a form of Confessional poetry.

> Indeed...

> https://poets.org/text/brief-guide-confessional-poetry

> **************Confessional poetry is the poetry of the personal or “I.” This style of writing emerged in the late 1950s and early 1960s and is associated with poets such as Robert Lowell, Sylvia Plath, Anne Sexton, and W. D. Snodgrass. Lowell’s book, Life Studies, was a highly personal account of his life and familial ties and had a significant impact on American poetry. Plath and Sexton were both students of Lowell and noted that his work influenced their own writing.

> The confessional poetry of the mid-twentieth century dealt with subject matter that previously had not been openly discussed in American poetry. Private experiences with and feelings about death, trauma, depression, and relationships were addressed in this type of poetry, often in an autobiographical manner. Sexton, in particular, was interested in the psychological aspect of poetry, having started writing at the suggestion of her therapist.

> The confessional poets were not merely recording their emotions on paper; craft and construction were extremely important to their work. While their treatment of the poetic self may have been groundbreaking and shocking to some readers, these poets maintained a high level of craftsmanship through their careful attention to and use of prosody.**********************

Well put.

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 by: W-Dockery - Mon, 19 Sep 2022 16:10 UTC

Zod wrote:

> Will Dockery wrote:
>> General-Zod wrote:

>>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Agreed with A, not his best but worth a read.

>>> Allen Ginsberg could tend to get a tad explicit with his erotic poems....

>> Yes, a form of Confessional poetry.

> Indeed...

> https://poets.org/text/brief-guide-confessional-poetry

> **************Confessional poetry is the poetry of the personal or “I.” This style of writing emerged in the late 1950s and early 1960s and is associated with poets such as Robert Lowell, Sylvia Plath, Anne Sexton, and W. D. Snodgrass. Lowell’s book, Life Studies, was a highly personal account of his life and familial ties and had a significant impact on American poetry. Plath and Sexton were both students of Lowell and noted that his work influenced their own writing.

> The confessional poetry of the mid-twentieth century dealt with subject matter that previously had not been openly discussed in American poetry. Private experiences with and feelings about death, trauma, depression, and relationships were addressed in this type of poetry, often in an autobiographical manner. Sexton, in particular, was interested in the psychological aspect of poetry, having started writing at the suggestion of her therapist.

> The confessional poets were not merely recording their emotions on paper; craft and construction were extremely important to their work. While their treatment of the poetic self may have been groundbreaking and shocking to some readers, these poets maintained a high level of craftsmanship through their careful attention to and use of prosody.**********************

Good find, Zod.

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 by: General-Zod - Sat, 24 Sep 2022 20:39 UTC

Will Dockery wrote:
>>> General-Zod wrote:

>>>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Agreed with A, not his best but worth a read.

>>>> Allen Ginsberg could tend to get a tad explicit with his erotic poems....

>>> Yes, a form of Confessional poetry.

>> Indeed...

>> https://poets.org/text/brief-guide-confessional-poetry

>> **************Confessional poetry is the poetry of the personal or “I.” This style of writing emerged in the late 1950s and early 1960s and is associated with poets such as Robert Lowell, Sylvia Plath, Anne Sexton, and W. D. Snodgrass. Lowell’s book, Life Studies, was a highly personal account of his life and familial ties and had a significant impact on American poetry. Plath and Sexton were both students of Lowell and noted that his work influenced their own writing.

>> The confessional poetry of the mid-twentieth century dealt with subject matter that previously had not been openly discussed in American poetry. Private experiences with and feelings about death, trauma, depression, and relationships were addressed in this type of poetry, often in an autobiographical manner. Sexton, in particular, was interested in the psychological aspect of poetry, having started writing at the suggestion of her therapist.

>> The confessional poets were not merely recording their emotions on paper; craft and construction were extremely important to their work. While their treatment of the poetic self may have been groundbreaking and shocking to some readers, these poets maintained a high level of craftsmanship through their careful attention to and use of prosody.**********************

> Good find, Zod.

I thank you.....

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 by: W.Dockery - Tue, 27 Sep 2022 18:27 UTC

General-Zod wrote:

> Will Dockery wrote:
>>
>> Agreed with A, not his best but worth a read.

> Allen Ginsberg could tend to get a tad explicit with his erotic poems....

Allen Ginsberg had honesty and courage in his poetry.

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