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* John and Aeolian Cadences (Again)Norbert K
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 by: Norbert K - Tue, 13 Jun 2023 12:35 UTC

Q: Wasn't a lot of the Beatles' music at least more intelligent?

Lennon: The Beatles were more intellectual, so they appealed on that level, too. But the basic appeal of the Beatles was not their intelligence. It was their music. It was only after some guy in the London Times said there were Aeolian cadences in "It Won't Be Long" that the middle classes started listening to it -- because somebody put a tag on it.

-- Excerpted from the 1980 Playboy interview

Does anyone buy Lennon's reply?

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 by: geoff - Tue, 13 Jun 2023 23:44 UTC

On 14/06/2023 12:35 am, Norbert K wrote:
> Q: Wasn't a lot of the Beatles' music at least more intelligent?
>
> Lennon: The Beatles were more intellectual, so they appealed on that level, too. But the basic appeal of the Beatles was not their intelligence. It was their music. It was only after some guy in the London Times said there were Aeolian cadences in "It Won't Be Long" that the middle classes started listening to it -- because somebody put a tag on it.
>
> -- Excerpted from the 1980 Playboy interview
>
> Does anyone buy Lennon's reply?

How about "intelligent music" ?

geoff

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 by: Norbert K - Tue, 13 Jun 2023 23:49 UTC

On Tuesday, June 13, 2023 at 4:44:58 PM UTC-7, geoff wrote:
> On 14/06/2023 12:35 am, Norbert K wrote:
> > Q: Wasn't a lot of the Beatles' music at least more intelligent?
> >
> > Lennon: The Beatles were more intellectual, so they appealed on that level, too. But the basic appeal of the Beatles was not their intelligence. It was their music. It was only after some guy in the London Times said there were Aeolian cadences in "It Won't Be Long" that the middle classes started listening to it -- because somebody put a tag on it.
> >
> > -- Excerpted from the 1980 Playboy interview
> >
> > Does anyone buy Lennon's reply?
> How about "intelligent music" ?
>
> geoff

If I understand you correctly, I think you're precisely right. The Beatles' intelligence was *in their music*.

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 by: geoff - Wed, 14 Jun 2023 00:36 UTC

On 14/06/2023 11:49 am, Norbert K wrote:
> On Tuesday, June 13, 2023 at 4:44:58 PM UTC-7, geoff wrote:
>> On 14/06/2023 12:35 am, Norbert K wrote:
>>> Q: Wasn't a lot of the Beatles' music at least more intelligent?
>>>
>>> Lennon: The Beatles were more intellectual, so they appealed on that level, too. But the basic appeal of the Beatles was not their intelligence. It was their music. It was only after some guy in the London Times said there were Aeolian cadences in "It Won't Be Long" that the middle classes started listening to it -- because somebody put a tag on it.
>>>
>>> -- Excerpted from the 1980 Playboy interview
>>>
>>> Does anyone buy Lennon's reply?
>> How about "intelligent music" ?
>>
>> geoff
>
> If I understand you correctly, I think you're precisely right. The Beatles' intelligence was *in their music*.

Exactly. Pushing the pop boundaries both musically and intellectually.

geoff

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