On Saturday, March 25, 2023 at 3:29:25 PM UTC-4, Curtis Eagal wrote:
> Bob Eubanks recently recalled how manager Brian Epstein limited the famous group's earning potential by insisting the maximum price for a ticket to a Beatles' concert would be seven dollars. Also there was nothing else for fans to purchase, since attempts to relitigate an unfavorable merchandising deal ruined the production-distribution chain, and the band members were sickened to learn how much income they had lost by that source.
>
> There was a harrowing incident when they toured Manila: a public relations nightmare ensued when they were cast as national villains for not attending a state function televised live; the group conferring decided Epstein was ultimately responsible for the scheduling debacle and ensuing ordeal, in a collective terse expletive.
>
> *
>
> Tornadoes Of 24 March Attributable To Bologna (IX.13)
>
> From 4 March 2023:
>
> https://groups.google.com/g/alt.prophecies.nostradamus/c/w360JNUDgjU/m/bSo9J79wAQAJ
>
> << Two of Modena truculent for Bologna,
> Set discovered through the fire of Buzancais
>
> The interpretation should be focused on hagiology, rather than geography, since timing is thusly frequently obscured.
>
> Buzancais was known for a food riot in 1847, with half-starved peasants intercepting grain carts, ultimately suppressed by three rioters being guillotined, after a local elite retaliating with gunfire being beaten to death by the mob caused the remainder to cower. Instead the date of 9 January is inferred via feast for Saint Honorius of Buzancais (d. 1250), a cattle merchant who financially assisted young girls, but was ultimately killed by thieves he had reprimanded.
>
> January Ninth 2023 was the day about 1200 insurrectionists were arrested in Brasilia, however the fire in IX.13 may have been supplied by an X1.9-class solar flare from an active sunspot (AR3184) facing Earth that day, causing radio blackouts for parts of South America; the same sunspot was responsible for an X1.2-class solar flare 5 January 2023 (day of the funeral for Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI) - an X2 solar flare is four times more powerful than an M5 flare.
>
> Line 3 employs a subtle trick for the 'Two of Modena': the town's patron is Saint Geminiano (312-397), whose name suggests the Gemini twins; although the citizens of Modena overwhelmingly wanted Geminiano for their bishop, he felt unworthy and fled - he had to be found and persuaded. Renowned as an exorcist, Geminiano performed this service successfully for the daughter of Emperor Jovian. In Modena on his 31 January feast there is a special Mass, and his crypt is opened to public view. When Attila the Hun threatened to invade Modena in 452, Geminiano was invoked for protection, and a thick fog conveniently blanketed the city so it was safely bypassed. January 31 2023 was the gap-day between the Three Holy Hierarchs including Basil the Great of 30 January (V.83, VI.78), and the predominantly German thunderstorm with two tornadoes on 1 February 2023. Thus the harsh (or truculent) storm razing a pine forest in northern Germany was indicated as precursor for a later event associated with a Bologna date. >>
>
> Tornadoes in the southern US on 24 March 2023 have caused about two dozen fatalities; hagiological research had been done designating Saint John del Bastone with a 24 March feast and association with Bologna for the IX.13 allusion.
>
> https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/25/weather/us-severe-storms-saturday/index.html
>
> Two episodes of cyclonic activity derived as dual subjects, in different places at different times, makes the fulfillment dramatic.
>
> https://tech.hindustantimes.com/tech/news/sun-hurls-out-cme-towards-earth-g1-class-geomagnetic-storm-to-hit-soonuntitled-story-71679283288194.html
>
> The open-ended astrological hints for the cataclysmic onset in Geneva appear to coalesce for late March 2023; the Saturnin reign and cycles from I.54 line 2 have transpired, and the hagiology cannot be easily re-evaluated, but several quatrains have presented recent fulfillments suggesting imminent inevitability.
>
> There are two close sustained trines that could be used for transforming into a Grand Trine with the Vertex (V.18): Ceres with Pluto, leading to the 9:40 pm CEST general time daily, without much potential for the proper dynamics; and Saturn with Mars, which could provide the Sword element for IX.44, after the 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET Saturnin Grand Trine with solar proximity for the Golden factor.
>
> The Saturn-Mars-Vertex Grand Trine for Geneva recurs daily in late March 2023 at a time that also brings Venus into conjunction with the East Point. The Cupbearer falsifies as VI.89 says, until the Chalice is tried with the activating conditions.
>
> From V.66 the time after the 21 March 2023 New Moon was indicated, implying a limit at the Half Moon 29 March 4:31 am CEST.
>
> A pivotal aspect is Mercury conjoining Jupiter as the striking of the High-Born from II.92 28 March 2023 8:42 am CEST - this provides a rival conjunction diminishing the established claim Venus has on the recurring Grand Trine.
>
> Looking back, the prior lunar conjunct was with Ouranos 25 March 2023 12:51 am CET, as VI.70 expresses the noise and light surpassing the Heavens, occurring before the next celestial body is reached.
>
> And the prior lunar aspect was a square with Neptune 28 March 2023 3:39 am CEST, for the perplexity between Corinth and Ephesus in III.3.
>
> The spot occupied by the rapidly-shifting Vertex to form the Grand Trine with Saturn and Mars is about two degrees into Scorpio, fulfilling the final line of V.42 by suggesting a point 'under the Balance,' or beneath the Libran constellation, bringing the Grand Trine together as combined points.
>
> For 28 March 2023 using Geneva coordinates and CEST:
>
> 3:39 am - Neptune lunar square (III.3);
>
> 8:42 am - Mercury-Jupiter conjunct, Jupiter as High-Born of II.92;
>
> 10:00 am - Saturnin Grand Trine with Mars and the Vertex - Venus debased at the East Point, upstaged by the Mercury-Jupiter conjunction, critical time -
>
> << 28 March 2023 10 am CEST / 4 am EDT / 1 am PDT >>;
>
> 10:02 am - Ceres lunar square (ends III.3 condition);
>
> 3:19 pm - Mars lunar conjunct - 'The New Mars for vengeance and remorse' (I.94);
>
> Mercury proceeds to make its next planetary conjunction with Vesta 30 March 2023 4:03 pm CEST, corresponding with the X.6 line -
>
> 'Vesta - sepulchral extinguishing fire to appear'
>
> For the Lady honored through force of terror in I.94, there is Blessed Agnes of Chatillon with feast on 28 March, and an additional memorial on 29 March in the Cisterian order; Agnes served as sub-prioress in the monastery of Beaupre, Belgium, circa 1200. She was a visionary with a particular devotion to the Eucharist, falling into ecstasy frequently after partaking Communion. The extension into the adjacent day with the extra memorial could be what is inferred from the 'New Mars' lunar conjunct date of 28 March 2023.
>
> The Saturn trine with Mars that is foundational for the Chalice officially occurs 30 March 2023 8:15 pm CEST, a date with plausibly relevant hagiology.
>
> Saint Secundus of Asti has the 30 March feast, a Roman soldier of the Patrician class, baptized as a Christian in Milan; when it was discovered he gave a Christian burial to a martyr he fled to Asti, but was ultimately found, tortured and beheaded circa 119. Milan is in the Lombard region for V.42 and VI.16.
>
> The first bishop of Civitas Silvanectium in Gaul was Saint Regulus (died 260), also having a 30 March feast (Gaul to tremble in X.58).
>
> Another memorial on 30 March is for a group of martyrs in Greece circa 300 with Saint Domninus and others, including one named Victor (VI.70).

I of obsorb'd much of Qs wisdom
Earth is the centa of the Sola system

Most so--call 'peeple' are rilly reptiles
JFK Joonyas cummin back winds smile

I ware a Q shirt and a MAGA hatt
Nevada go salin cuz the earth is FLAT

Stanley Kubrick FAKED the landin on the MOON
Trumps reinstatmint gunna happiness real soon

I hate COMMIES for Russia I root
I don't like FEMALE'S I'm a CLOSET FRUIT

DOCTA Fow-chees the inventa of AIDES
IVE SAT IN THIS CELLA FOR FIVE DECADE'S!!!!!

FaMUOS Anuss!!!!

On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 8:47:11 AM UTC-7, Famous Amos wrote:
> On Saturday, March 25, 2023 at 3:29:25 PM UTC-4, Curtis Eagal wrote:
> > Bob Eubanks recently recalled how manager Brian Epstein limited the famous group's earning potential by insisting the maximum price for a ticket to a Beatles' concert would be seven dollars. Also there was nothing else for fans to purchase, since attempts to relitigate an unfavorable merchandising deal ruined the production-distribution chain, and the band members were sickened to learn how much income they had lost by that source.
> >
> > There was a harrowing incident when they toured Manila: a public relations nightmare ensued when they were cast as national villains for not attending a state function televised live; the group conferring decided Epstein was ultimately responsible for the scheduling debacle and ensuing ordeal, in a collective terse expletive.
> >
> > *
> >
> > Tornadoes Of 24 March Attributable To Bologna (IX.13)
> >
> > From 4 March 2023:
> >
> > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.prophecies.nostradamus/c/w360JNUDgjU/m/bSo9J79wAQAJ
> >
> > << Two of Modena truculent for Bologna,
> > Set discovered through the fire of Buzancais
> >
> > The interpretation should be focused on hagiology, rather than geography, since timing is thusly frequently obscured.
> >
> > Buzancais was known for a food riot in 1847, with half-starved peasants intercepting grain carts, ultimately suppressed by three rioters being guillotined, after a local elite retaliating with gunfire being beaten to death by the mob caused the remainder to cower. Instead the date of 9 January is inferred via feast for Saint Honorius of Buzancais (d. 1250), a cattle merchant who financially assisted young girls, but was ultimately killed by thieves he had reprimanded.
> >
> > January Ninth 2023 was the day about 1200 insurrectionists were arrested in Brasilia, however the fire in IX.13 may have been supplied by an X1.9-class solar flare from an active sunspot (AR3184) facing Earth that day, causing radio blackouts for parts of South America; the same sunspot was responsible for an X1.2-class solar flare 5 January 2023 (day of the funeral for Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI) - an X2 solar flare is four times more powerful than an M5 flare.
> >
> > Line 3 employs a subtle trick for the 'Two of Modena': the town's patron is Saint Geminiano (312-397), whose name suggests the Gemini twins; although the citizens of Modena overwhelmingly wanted Geminiano for their bishop, he felt unworthy and fled - he had to be found and persuaded. Renowned as an exorcist, Geminiano performed this service successfully for the daughter of Emperor Jovian. In Modena on his 31 January feast there is a special Mass, and his crypt is opened to public view. When Attila the Hun threatened to invade Modena in 452, Geminiano was invoked for protection, and a thick fog conveniently blanketed the city so it was safely bypassed. January 31 2023 was the gap-day between the Three Holy Hierarchs including Basil the Great of 30 January (V.83, VI.78), and the predominantly German thunderstorm with two tornadoes on 1 February 2023. Thus the harsh (or truculent) storm razing a pine forest in northern Germany was indicated as precursor for a later event associated with a Bologna date. >>
> >
> > Tornadoes in the southern US on 24 March 2023 have caused about two dozen fatalities; hagiological research had been done designating Saint John del Bastone with a 24 March feast and association with Bologna for the IX.13 allusion.
> >
> > https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/25/weather/us-severe-storms-saturday/index.html
> >
> > Two episodes of cyclonic activity derived as dual subjects, in different places at different times, makes the fulfillment dramatic.
> >
> > https://tech.hindustantimes.com/tech/news/sun-hurls-out-cme-towards-earth-g1-class-geomagnetic-storm-to-hit-soonuntitled-story-71679283288194.html
> >
> > The open-ended astrological hints for the cataclysmic onset in Geneva appear to coalesce for late March 2023; the Saturnin reign and cycles from I..54 line 2 have transpired, and the hagiology cannot be easily re-evaluated, but several quatrains have presented recent fulfillments suggesting imminent inevitability.
> >
> > There are two close sustained trines that could be used for transforming into a Grand Trine with the Vertex (V.18): Ceres with Pluto, leading to the 9:40 pm CEST general time daily, without much potential for the proper dynamics; and Saturn with Mars, which could provide the Sword element for IX..44, after the 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET Saturnin Grand Trine with solar proximity for the Golden factor.
> >
> > The Saturn-Mars-Vertex Grand Trine for Geneva recurs daily in late March 2023 at a time that also brings Venus into conjunction with the East Point. The Cupbearer falsifies as VI.89 says, until the Chalice is tried with the activating conditions.
> >
> > From V.66 the time after the 21 March 2023 New Moon was indicated, implying a limit at the Half Moon 29 March 4:31 am CEST.
> >
> > A pivotal aspect is Mercury conjoining Jupiter as the striking of the High-Born from II.92 28 March 2023 8:42 am CEST - this provides a rival conjunction diminishing the established claim Venus has on the recurring Grand Trine.
> >
> > Looking back, the prior lunar conjunct was with Ouranos 25 March 2023 12:51 am CET, as VI.70 expresses the noise and light surpassing the Heavens, occurring before the next celestial body is reached.
> >
> > And the prior lunar aspect was a square with Neptune 28 March 2023 3:39 am CEST, for the perplexity between Corinth and Ephesus in III.3.
> >
> > The spot occupied by the rapidly-shifting Vertex to form the Grand Trine with Saturn and Mars is about two degrees into Scorpio, fulfilling the final line of V.42 by suggesting a point 'under the Balance,' or beneath the Libran constellation, bringing the Grand Trine together as combined points.
> >
> > For 28 March 2023 using Geneva coordinates and CEST:
> >
> > 3:39 am - Neptune lunar square (III.3);
> >
> > 8:42 am - Mercury-Jupiter conjunct, Jupiter as High-Born of II.92;
> >
> > 10:00 am - Saturnin Grand Trine with Mars and the Vertex - Venus debased at the East Point, upstaged by the Mercury-Jupiter conjunction, critical time -
> >
> > << 28 March 2023 10 am CEST / 4 am EDT / 1 am PDT >>;
> >
> > 10:02 am - Ceres lunar square (ends III.3 condition);
> >
> > 3:19 pm - Mars lunar conjunct - 'The New Mars for vengeance and remorse' (I.94);
> >
> > Mercury proceeds to make its next planetary conjunction with Vesta 30 March 2023 4:03 pm CEST, corresponding with the X.6 line -
> >
> > 'Vesta - sepulchral extinguishing fire to appear'
> >
> > For the Lady honored through force of terror in I.94, there is Blessed Agnes of Chatillon with feast on 28 March, and an additional memorial on 29 March in the Cisterian order; Agnes served as sub-prioress in the monastery of Beaupre, Belgium, circa 1200. She was a visionary with a particular devotion to the Eucharist, falling into ecstasy frequently after partaking Communion. The extension into the adjacent day with the extra memorial could be what is inferred from the 'New Mars' lunar conjunct date of 28 March 2023.
> >
> > The Saturn trine with Mars that is foundational for the Chalice officially occurs 30 March 2023 8:15 pm CEST, a date with plausibly relevant hagiology.
> >
> > Saint Secundus of Asti has the 30 March feast, a Roman soldier of the Patrician class, baptized as a Christian in Milan; when it was discovered he gave a Christian burial to a martyr he fled to Asti, but was ultimately found, tortured and beheaded circa 119. Milan is in the Lombard region for V.42 and VI.16.
> >
> > The first bishop of Civitas Silvanectium in Gaul was Saint Regulus (died 260), also having a 30 March feast (Gaul to tremble in X.58).
> >
> > Another memorial on 30 March is for a group of martyrs in Greece circa 300 with Saint Domninus and others, including one named Victor (VI.70).
> I of obsorb'd much of Qs wisdom
> Earth is the centa of the Sola system
>
> Most so--call 'peeple' are rilly reptiles
> JFK Joonyas cummin back winds smile
>
> I ware a Q shirt and a MAGA hatt
> Nevada go salin cuz the earth is FLAT
>
> Stanley Kubrick FAKED the landin on the MOON
> Trumps reinstatmint gunna happiness real soon
>
> I hate COMMIES for Russia I root
> I don't like FEMALE'S I'm a CLOSET FRUIT
>
> DOCTA Fow-chees the inventa of AIDES
> IVE SAT IN THIS CELLA FOR FIVE DECADE'S!!!!!
>
> FaMUOS Anuss!!!!

In his interview with Alan Aldridge, Paul McCartney explained "Fixing A Hole" as being the opposite of the mob deciding to crucify Jesus for claiming to be the Son of God.

The Beatles ingeniously bypassed the ignorance of conscious thought by communicating more directly subliminally to the subconscious, so people could eventually start wondering what the tantalizingly engaging songs really meant, receiving responses like if the truth were known it would likely not be believed - so they were admittedly limiting themselves to 'An Eighth of The Truth.' They cast The Spell, however breaking it would inevitably encounter resistance, due to the transference phenomenon. John Lennon mused that for a Beatles reunion the audience would be "expecting God to perform."

On Thursday, May 25, 2023 at 10:38:24 AM UTC-7, Curtis Eagal wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 8:47:11 AM UTC-7, Famous Amos wrote:
> > On Saturday, March 25, 2023 at 3:29:25 PM UTC-4, Curtis Eagal wrote:
> > > Bob Eubanks recently recalled how manager Brian Epstein limited the famous group's earning potential by insisting the maximum price for a ticket to a Beatles' concert would be seven dollars. Also there was nothing else for fans to purchase, since attempts to relitigate an unfavorable merchandising deal ruined the production-distribution chain, and the band members were sickened to learn how much income they had lost by that source.
> > >
> > > There was a harrowing incident when they toured Manila: a public relations nightmare ensued when they were cast as national villains for not attending a state function televised live; the group conferring decided Epstein was ultimately responsible for the scheduling debacle and ensuing ordeal, in a collective terse expletive.
> > >
> > > *
> > >
> > > Tornadoes Of 24 March Attributable To Bologna (IX.13)
> > >
> > > From 4 March 2023:
> > >
> > > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.prophecies.nostradamus/c/w360JNUDgjU/m/bSo9J79wAQAJ
> > >
> > > << Two of Modena truculent for Bologna,
> > > Set discovered through the fire of Buzancais
> > >
> > > The interpretation should be focused on hagiology, rather than geography, since timing is thusly frequently obscured.
> > >
> > > Buzancais was known for a food riot in 1847, with half-starved peasants intercepting grain carts, ultimately suppressed by three rioters being guillotined, after a local elite retaliating with gunfire being beaten to death by the mob caused the remainder to cower. Instead the date of 9 January is inferred via feast for Saint Honorius of Buzancais (d. 1250), a cattle merchant who financially assisted young girls, but was ultimately killed by thieves he had reprimanded.
> > >
> > > January Ninth 2023 was the day about 1200 insurrectionists were arrested in Brasilia, however the fire in IX.13 may have been supplied by an X1.9-class solar flare from an active sunspot (AR3184) facing Earth that day, causing radio blackouts for parts of South America; the same sunspot was responsible for an X1.2-class solar flare 5 January 2023 (day of the funeral for Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI) - an X2 solar flare is four times more powerful than an M5 flare.
> > >
> > > Line 3 employs a subtle trick for the 'Two of Modena': the town's patron is Saint Geminiano (312-397), whose name suggests the Gemini twins; although the citizens of Modena overwhelmingly wanted Geminiano for their bishop, he felt unworthy and fled - he had to be found and persuaded. Renowned as an exorcist, Geminiano performed this service successfully for the daughter of Emperor Jovian. In Modena on his 31 January feast there is a special Mass, and his crypt is opened to public view. When Attila the Hun threatened to invade Modena in 452, Geminiano was invoked for protection, and a thick fog conveniently blanketed the city so it was safely bypassed. January 31 2023 was the gap-day between the Three Holy Hierarchs including Basil the Great of 30 January (V.83, VI.78), and the predominantly German thunderstorm with two tornadoes on 1 February 2023. Thus the harsh (or truculent) storm razing a pine forest in northern Germany was indicated as precursor for a later event associated with a Bologna date. >>
> > >
> > > Tornadoes in the southern US on 24 March 2023 have caused about two dozen fatalities; hagiological research had been done designating Saint John del Bastone with a 24 March feast and association with Bologna for the IX.13 allusion.
> > >
> > > https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/25/weather/us-severe-storms-saturday/index.html
> > >
> > > Two episodes of cyclonic activity derived as dual subjects, in different places at different times, makes the fulfillment dramatic.
> > >
> > > https://tech.hindustantimes.com/tech/news/sun-hurls-out-cme-towards-earth-g1-class-geomagnetic-storm-to-hit-soonuntitled-story-71679283288194.html
> > >
> > > The open-ended astrological hints for the cataclysmic onset in Geneva appear to coalesce for late March 2023; the Saturnin reign and cycles from I.54 line 2 have transpired, and the hagiology cannot be easily re-evaluated, but several quatrains have presented recent fulfillments suggesting imminent inevitability.
> > >
> > > There are two close sustained trines that could be used for transforming into a Grand Trine with the Vertex (V.18): Ceres with Pluto, leading to the 9:40 pm CEST general time daily, without much potential for the proper dynamics; and Saturn with Mars, which could provide the Sword element for IX.44, after the 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET Saturnin Grand Trine with solar proximity for the Golden factor.
> > >
> > > The Saturn-Mars-Vertex Grand Trine for Geneva recurs daily in late March 2023 at a time that also brings Venus into conjunction with the East Point. The Cupbearer falsifies as VI.89 says, until the Chalice is tried with the activating conditions.
> > >
> > > From V.66 the time after the 21 March 2023 New Moon was indicated, implying a limit at the Half Moon 29 March 4:31 am CEST.
> > >
> > > A pivotal aspect is Mercury conjoining Jupiter as the striking of the High-Born from II.92 28 March 2023 8:42 am CEST - this provides a rival conjunction diminishing the established claim Venus has on the recurring Grand Trine.
> > >
> > > Looking back, the prior lunar conjunct was with Ouranos 25 March 2023 12:51 am CET, as VI.70 expresses the noise and light surpassing the Heavens, occurring before the next celestial body is reached.
> > >
> > > And the prior lunar aspect was a square with Neptune 28 March 2023 3:39 am CEST, for the perplexity between Corinth and Ephesus in III.3.
> > >
> > > The spot occupied by the rapidly-shifting Vertex to form the Grand Trine with Saturn and Mars is about two degrees into Scorpio, fulfilling the final line of V.42 by suggesting a point 'under the Balance,' or beneath the Libran constellation, bringing the Grand Trine together as combined points.
> > >
> > > For 28 March 2023 using Geneva coordinates and CEST:
> > >
> > > 3:39 am - Neptune lunar square (III.3);
> > >
> > > 8:42 am - Mercury-Jupiter conjunct, Jupiter as High-Born of II.92;
> > >
> > > 10:00 am - Saturnin Grand Trine with Mars and the Vertex - Venus debased at the East Point, upstaged by the Mercury-Jupiter conjunction, critical time -
> > >
> > > << 28 March 2023 10 am CEST / 4 am EDT / 1 am PDT >>;
> > >
> > > 10:02 am - Ceres lunar square (ends III.3 condition);
> > >
> > > 3:19 pm - Mars lunar conjunct - 'The New Mars for vengeance and remorse' (I.94);
> > >
> > > Mercury proceeds to make its next planetary conjunction with Vesta 30 March 2023 4:03 pm CEST, corresponding with the X.6 line -
> > >
> > > 'Vesta - sepulchral extinguishing fire to appear'
> > >
> > > For the Lady honored through force of terror in I.94, there is Blessed Agnes of Chatillon with feast on 28 March, and an additional memorial on 29 March in the Cisterian order; Agnes served as sub-prioress in the monastery of Beaupre, Belgium, circa 1200. She was a visionary with a particular devotion to the Eucharist, falling into ecstasy frequently after partaking Communion. The extension into the adjacent day with the extra memorial could be what is inferred from the 'New Mars' lunar conjunct date of 28 March 2023.
> > >
> > > The Saturn trine with Mars that is foundational for the Chalice officially occurs 30 March 2023 8:15 pm CEST, a date with plausibly relevant hagiology.
> > >
> > > Saint Secundus of Asti has the 30 March feast, a Roman soldier of the Patrician class, baptized as a Christian in Milan; when it was discovered he gave a Christian burial to a martyr he fled to Asti, but was ultimately found, tortured and beheaded circa 119. Milan is in the Lombard region for V.42 and VI.16.
> > >
> > > The first bishop of Civitas Silvanectium in Gaul was Saint Regulus (died 260), also having a 30 March feast (Gaul to tremble in X.58).
> > >
> > > Another memorial on 30 March is for a group of martyrs in Greece circa 300 with Saint Domninus and others, including one named Victor (VI.70).
> > I of obsorb'd much of Qs wisdom
> > Earth is the centa of the Sola system
> >
> > Most so--call 'peeple' are rilly reptiles
> > JFK Joonyas cummin back winds smile
> >
> > I ware a Q shirt and a MAGA hatt
> > Nevada go salin cuz the earth is FLAT
> >
> > Stanley Kubrick FAKED the landin on the MOON
> > Trumps reinstatmint gunna happiness real soon
> >
> > I hate COMMIES for Russia I root
> > I don't like FEMALE'S I'm a CLOSET FRUIT
> >
> > DOCTA Fow-chees the inventa of AIDES
> > IVE SAT IN THIS CELLA FOR FIVE DECADE'S!!!!!
> >
> > FaMUOS Anuss!!!!
> In his interview with Alan Aldridge, Paul McCartney explained "Fixing A Hole" as being the opposite of the mob deciding to crucify Jesus for claiming to be the Son of God.
>
> The Beatles ingeniously bypassed the ignorance of conscious thought by communicating more directly subliminally to the subconscious, so people could eventually start wondering what the tantalizingly engaging songs really meant, receiving responses like if the truth were known it would likely not be believed - so they were admittedly limiting themselves to 'An Eighth of The Truth.' They cast The Spell, however breaking it would inevitably encounter resistance, due to the transference phenomenon. John Lennon mused that for a Beatles reunion the audience would be "expecting God to perform."
>
> * Conceptual Chalice Tried By Saturnin Candle [26 May 2023 7:42 am CEST / 1:42 am EDT] *
>
> The French prophecies are intriguing for providing open-ended guidance, so that applying those precepts to observed conditions can trigger insightful recognition: the relevant facts seem presented, yet their semantic meanings are elusive. The seer trusted later generations to expend the efforts towards resolving the offered enigmas into realizations of astounding fulfillments.
>
> The logic for the Geneva vigil has led to the current lunar Leo interval being presumed the New Cupbearer condition for the Candle-Chalice configurations as cataclysmic trigger.
>
> The hagiology for 26 May includes commemoration for Our Lady of Caravaggio, Lombardy, recalling a Marian apparition from 26 May 1432 outside the Italian town, experienced by Giannetta de'Vacchi Varoli while cutting hay in a field. As centuries later at Lourdes, a spring of healing water emerged. This could set both the Lombardy references (as in V.42), and the Lady honored by force of terror (I.94, as consequence of the New Mars implication), at 26 May 2023.
>
> The 26 May date also corresponds with Gaul (to tremble in X.58), through the feast for Saint Desiderius of Vienne (born at Autun, died 608).
>
> For 26 May 2023 using Geneva coordinates and CEST:
>
> 6 am - Chiron lunar trine, possibly matching VI.70;
>
> 7:42 am - Grand Trine of the South Node with the Ascendant and Midheaven, perhaps as the Chalice of VI.89, consisting of conceptual points, with Venus in a precise trine with the Vertex (V.18), as the critical time -
>
> << 26 May 2023 7:42 am CEST / 1:42 am EDT / 25 May 2023 10:42 pm PDT >>;
>
> 7:49 am - Fortune in Virgo in trine with Vesta in Taurus, both at 18 degrees 8 minutes (perhaps for X.6, appearance of 'Vesta sepulchral fire');
>
> 7:53 am - Ascendant in dual trine with Saturn and the South Node, as a Leftward-Pointing Candleflame configuration (VI.35);
>
> 7:55 am - Saturn conjoins Midheaven (possibly 'Saturne d'or' from IX.44, for the golden street in Paradise);
>
> 8:33 am - Venusian lunar adjacency (false rapport bringing debasement in X.28);
>
> 8:37 am - Ouranos lunar square (VI.70, for The Heavens being surpassed);
>
> 8 pm - Vertex version of the Candle recurs without ominous attending details;
>
> 11:45 pm - Neptunian lunar quincunx, for the Corinth-Ephesus perplexity (III.3) after the 'swimming in two seas' condition (II.52) when both the Moon and Neptune were in water signs.
>
> The sixteen-hour gap between the Pre-Candle Chalice at 7:42 am and the Neptune lunar quincunx at 11:45 pm could be perceived as two successive eight-hour cataclysmic 'nights' for the 'two times of darkness' descending in VII.5. The third night was to be of the typical normal darkness, which locally matches for the near-Midnight commencement.
>
> As for the widow and virgin of VIII.80 associated with innocent blood, these could regard 28 May.
>
> Blessed Margaret Pole, widow of Sir Richard Pole, opposed Henry VIII in the Ann Boleyn controversy: her sons were executed, and she was locked in the Tower of London for a couple of years; then in reaction to stirrings of revolt, Margaret was quickly tried and condemned, beheaded on 28 May 1541.
>
> Blessed Mary of the Nativity, also honored 28 May, was a visionary who consecrated herself to God from youth (meaning she remained a virgin): she joined the Mercedarian order at the monastery of the Assumption in Seville, Spain as Sister Mary of the Nativity.
>
> The hagiology for 25 May allows for prophetic acknowledgment of a wine-making theme.
>
> The foundress of the Society of the Sacred Heart, Saint Madeline Sophie Barat having the 25 May feast, was the daughter of Jacques Barat, a cooper supplying vineyards with barrels.
>
> Saint Dionysius was bishop of Milan, who attended the Synod of Milan, where for his defense of Saint Athanasius, Arian Emperor Constantius exiled Dionysius to Cappadocia in 355; after his death in 359, Saint Ambrose brought his relics to Milan. The name Dionysius is shared with the mythical deity associated with wine also known as Bacchus.
>
> Vin sur la table en sera repandu
>
> Wine on the table some will be spilled
>
> [VII.5]
>
> Puis les Barbares sans vin feront vendages
>
> Then the Barbarians will prepare a non-wine vintage
>
> [IX.80]
>
> Pres de Linterne dans de tonnes fermes
>
> Near the Inferno enclosed in some casks
>
> [VIII.8]
>
> The metaphoric inference of red wine for blood is obvious.
>
> {Ezekiel 33:}
>
> ‘When I bring the sword upon a land, and the people of the land take a man from their territory and make him their Watchman, when he sees the sword coming upon the land, if he blows the trumpet and warns the people, then whoever hears the sound of the trumpet and does not take warning, if the sword comes and takes him away, his blood shall be on his own head.
>
> He heard the sound of the trumpet, but did not take warning; his blood shall be upon himself.
>
> But he who takes warning will save his life.
>
> But if the watchman sees the sword coming and does not blow the trumpet, and the people are not warned, and the sword comes and takes any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity;
>
> But his blood I will require at the Watchman’s hand.’

On Saturday, March 25, 2023 at 3:29:25 PM UTC-4, Curtis Eagal wrote:
> Bob Eubanks recently recalled how manager Brian Epstein limited the famous group's earning potential by insisting the maximum price for a ticket to a Beatles' concert would be seven dollars. Also there was nothing else for fans to purchase, since attempts to relitigate an unfavorable merchandising deal ruined the production-distribution chain, and the band members were sickened to learn how much income they had lost by that source.
>
> There was a harrowing incident when they toured Manila: a public relations nightmare ensued when they were cast as national villains for not attending a state function televised live; the group conferring decided Epstein was ultimately responsible for the scheduling debacle and ensuing ordeal, in a collective terse expletive.
>
> *
>
> Tornadoes Of 24 March Attributable To Bologna (IX.13)
>
> From 4 March 2023:
>
> https://groups.google.com/g/alt.prophecies.nostradamus/c/w360JNUDgjU/m/bSo9J79wAQAJ
>
> << Two of Modena truculent for Bologna,
> Set discovered through the fire of Buzancais
>
> The interpretation should be focused on hagiology, rather than geography, since timing is thusly frequently obscured.
>
> Buzancais was known for a food riot in 1847, with half-starved peasants intercepting grain carts, ultimately suppressed by three rioters being guillotined, after a local elite retaliating with gunfire being beaten to death by the mob caused the remainder to cower. Instead the date of 9 January is inferred via feast for Saint Honorius of Buzancais (d. 1250), a cattle merchant who financially assisted young girls, but was ultimately killed by thieves he had reprimanded.
>
> January Ninth 2023 was the day about 1200 insurrectionists were arrested in Brasilia, however the fire in IX.13 may have been supplied by an X1.9-class solar flare from an active sunspot (AR3184) facing Earth that day, causing radio blackouts for parts of South America; the same sunspot was responsible for an X1.2-class solar flare 5 January 2023 (day of the funeral for Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI) - an X2 solar flare is four times more powerful than an M5 flare.
>
> Line 3 employs a subtle trick for the 'Two of Modena': the town's patron is Saint Geminiano (312-397), whose name suggests the Gemini twins; although the citizens of Modena overwhelmingly wanted Geminiano for their bishop, he felt unworthy and fled - he had to be found and persuaded. Renowned as an exorcist, Geminiano performed this service successfully for the daughter of Emperor Jovian. In Modena on his 31 January feast there is a special Mass, and his crypt is opened to public view. When Attila the Hun threatened to invade Modena in 452, Geminiano was invoked for protection, and a thick fog conveniently blanketed the city so it was safely bypassed. January 31 2023 was the gap-day between the Three Holy Hierarchs including Basil the Great of 30 January (V.83, VI.78), and the predominantly German thunderstorm with two tornadoes on 1 February 2023. Thus the harsh (or truculent) storm razing a pine forest in northern Germany was indicated as precursor for a later event associated with a Bologna date. >>
>
> Tornadoes in the southern US on 24 March 2023 have caused about two dozen fatalities; hagiological research had been done designating Saint John del Bastone with a 24 March feast and association with Bologna for the IX.13 allusion.
>
> https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/25/weather/us-severe-storms-saturday/index.html
>
> Two episodes of cyclonic activity derived as dual subjects, in different places at different times, makes the fulfillment dramatic.
>
> https://tech.hindustantimes.com/tech/news/sun-hurls-out-cme-towards-earth-g1-class-geomagnetic-storm-to-hit-soonuntitled-story-71679283288194.html
>
> The open-ended astrological hints for the cataclysmic onset in Geneva appear to coalesce for late March 2023; the Saturnin reign and cycles from I.54 line 2 have transpired, and the hagiology cannot be easily re-evaluated, but several quatrains have presented recent fulfillments suggesting imminent inevitability.
>
> There are two close sustained trines that could be used for transforming into a Grand Trine with the Vertex (V.18): Ceres with Pluto, leading to the 9:40 pm CEST general time daily, without much potential for the proper dynamics; and Saturn with Mars, which could provide the Sword element for IX.44, after the 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET Saturnin Grand Trine with solar proximity for the Golden factor.
>
> The Saturn-Mars-Vertex Grand Trine for Geneva recurs daily in late March 2023 at a time that also brings Venus into conjunction with the East Point. The Cupbearer falsifies as VI.89 says, until the Chalice is tried with the activating conditions.
>
> From V.66 the time after the 21 March 2023 New Moon was indicated, implying a limit at the Half Moon 29 March 4:31 am CEST.
>
> A pivotal aspect is Mercury conjoining Jupiter as the striking of the High-Born from II.92 28 March 2023 8:42 am CEST - this provides a rival conjunction diminishing the established claim Venus has on the recurring Grand Trine.
>
> Looking back, the prior lunar conjunct was with Ouranos 25 March 2023 12:51 am CET, as VI.70 expresses the noise and light surpassing the Heavens, occurring before the next celestial body is reached.
>
> And the prior lunar aspect was a square with Neptune 28 March 2023 3:39 am CEST, for the perplexity between Corinth and Ephesus in III.3.
>
> The spot occupied by the rapidly-shifting Vertex to form the Grand Trine with Saturn and Mars is about two degrees into Scorpio, fulfilling the final line of V.42 by suggesting a point 'under the Balance,' or beneath the Libran constellation, bringing the Grand Trine together as combined points.
>
> For 28 March 2023 using Geneva coordinates and CEST:
>
> 3:39 am - Neptune lunar square (III.3);
>
> 8:42 am - Mercury-Jupiter conjunct, Jupiter as High-Born of II.92;
>
> 10:00 am - Saturnin Grand Trine with Mars and the Vertex - Venus debased at the East Point, upstaged by the Mercury-Jupiter conjunction, critical time -
>
> << 28 March 2023 10 am CEST / 4 am EDT / 1 am PDT >>;
>
> 10:02 am - Ceres lunar square (ends III.3 condition);
>
> 3:19 pm - Mars lunar conjunct - 'The New Mars for vengeance and remorse' (I.94);
>
> Mercury proceeds to make its next planetary conjunction with Vesta 30 March 2023 4:03 pm CEST, corresponding with the X.6 line -
>
> 'Vesta - sepulchral extinguishing fire to appear'
>
> For the Lady honored through force of terror in I.94, there is Blessed Agnes of Chatillon with feast on 28 March, and an additional memorial on 29 March in the Cisterian order; Agnes served as sub-prioress in the monastery of Beaupre, Belgium, circa 1200. She was a visionary with a particular devotion to the Eucharist, falling into ecstasy frequently after partaking Communion. The extension into the adjacent day with the extra memorial could be what is inferred from the 'New Mars' lunar conjunct date of 28 March 2023.
>
> The Saturn trine with Mars that is foundational for the Chalice officially occurs 30 March 2023 8:15 pm CEST, a date with plausibly relevant hagiology.
>
> Saint Secundus of Asti has the 30 March feast, a Roman soldier of the Patrician class, baptized as a Christian in Milan; when it was discovered he gave a Christian burial to a martyr he fled to Asti, but was ultimately found, tortured and beheaded circa 119. Milan is in the Lombard region for V.42 and VI.16.
>
> The first bishop of Civitas Silvanectium in Gaul was Saint Regulus (died 260), also having a 30 March feast (Gaul to tremble in X.58).
>
> Another memorial on 30 March is for a group of martyrs in Greece circa 300 with Saint Domninus and others, including one named Victor (VI.70).

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On Saturday, March 25, 2023 at 3:29:25 PM UTC-4, Curtis Eagal wrote:
> Bob Eubanks recently recalled how manager Brian Epstein limited the famous group's earning potential by insisting the maximum price for a ticket to a Beatles' concert would be seven dollars. Also there was nothing else for fans to purchase, since attempts to relitigate an unfavorable merchandising deal ruined the production-distribution chain, and the band members were sickened to learn how much income they had lost by that source.
>
> There was a harrowing incident when they toured Manila: a public relations nightmare ensued when they were cast as national villains for not attending a state function televised live; the group conferring decided Epstein was ultimately responsible for the scheduling debacle and ensuing ordeal, in a collective terse expletive.
>
> *
>
> Tornadoes Of 24 March Attributable To Bologna (IX.13)
>
> From 4 March 2023:
>
> https://groups.google.com/g/alt.prophecies.nostradamus/c/w360JNUDgjU/m/bSo9J79wAQAJ
>
> << Two of Modena truculent for Bologna,
> Set discovered through the fire of Buzancais
>
> The interpretation should be focused on hagiology, rather than geography, since timing is thusly frequently obscured.
>
> Buzancais was known for a food riot in 1847, with half-starved peasants intercepting grain carts, ultimately suppressed by three rioters being guillotined, after a local elite retaliating with gunfire being beaten to death by the mob caused the remainder to cower. Instead the date of 9 January is inferred via feast for Saint Honorius of Buzancais (d. 1250), a cattle merchant who financially assisted young girls, but was ultimately killed by thieves he had reprimanded.
>
> January Ninth 2023 was the day about 1200 insurrectionists were arrested in Brasilia, however the fire in IX.13 may have been supplied by an X1.9-class solar flare from an active sunspot (AR3184) facing Earth that day, causing radio blackouts for parts of South America; the same sunspot was responsible for an X1.2-class solar flare 5 January 2023 (day of the funeral for Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI) - an X2 solar flare is four times more powerful than an M5 flare.
>
> Line 3 employs a subtle trick for the 'Two of Modena': the town's patron is Saint Geminiano (312-397), whose name suggests the Gemini twins; although the citizens of Modena overwhelmingly wanted Geminiano for their bishop, he felt unworthy and fled - he had to be found and persuaded. Renowned as an exorcist, Geminiano performed this service successfully for the daughter of Emperor Jovian. In Modena on his 31 January feast there is a special Mass, and his crypt is opened to public view. When Attila the Hun threatened to invade Modena in 452, Geminiano was invoked for protection, and a thick fog conveniently blanketed the city so it was safely bypassed. January 31 2023 was the gap-day between the Three Holy Hierarchs including Basil the Great of 30 January (V.83, VI.78), and the predominantly German thunderstorm with two tornadoes on 1 February 2023. Thus the harsh (or truculent) storm razing a pine forest in northern Germany was indicated as precursor for a later event associated with a Bologna date. >>
>
> Tornadoes in the southern US on 24 March 2023 have caused about two dozen fatalities; hagiological research had been done designating Saint John del Bastone with a 24 March feast and association with Bologna for the IX.13 allusion.
>
> https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/25/weather/us-severe-storms-saturday/index.html
>
> Two episodes of cyclonic activity derived as dual subjects, in different places at different times, makes the fulfillment dramatic.
>
> https://tech.hindustantimes.com/tech/news/sun-hurls-out-cme-towards-earth-g1-class-geomagnetic-storm-to-hit-soonuntitled-story-71679283288194.html
>
> The open-ended astrological hints for the cataclysmic onset in Geneva appear to coalesce for late March 2023; the Saturnin reign and cycles from I.54 line 2 have transpired, and the hagiology cannot be easily re-evaluated, but several quatrains have presented recent fulfillments suggesting imminent inevitability.
>
> There are two close sustained trines that could be used for transforming into a Grand Trine with the Vertex (V.18): Ceres with Pluto, leading to the 9:40 pm CEST general time daily, without much potential for the proper dynamics; and Saturn with Mars, which could provide the Sword element for IX.44, after the 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET Saturnin Grand Trine with solar proximity for the Golden factor.
>
> The Saturn-Mars-Vertex Grand Trine for Geneva recurs daily in late March 2023 at a time that also brings Venus into conjunction with the East Point. The Cupbearer falsifies as VI.89 says, until the Chalice is tried with the activating conditions.
>
> From V.66 the time after the 21 March 2023 New Moon was indicated, implying a limit at the Half Moon 29 March 4:31 am CEST.
>
> A pivotal aspect is Mercury conjoining Jupiter as the striking of the High-Born from II.92 28 March 2023 8:42 am CEST - this provides a rival conjunction diminishing the established claim Venus has on the recurring Grand Trine.
>
> Looking back, the prior lunar conjunct was with Ouranos 25 March 2023 12:51 am CET, as VI.70 expresses the noise and light surpassing the Heavens, occurring before the next celestial body is reached.
>
> And the prior lunar aspect was a square with Neptune 28 March 2023 3:39 am CEST, for the perplexity between Corinth and Ephesus in III.3.
>
> The spot occupied by the rapidly-shifting Vertex to form the Grand Trine with Saturn and Mars is about two degrees into Scorpio, fulfilling the final line of V.42 by suggesting a point 'under the Balance,' or beneath the Libran constellation, bringing the Grand Trine together as combined points.
>
> For 28 March 2023 using Geneva coordinates and CEST:
>
> 3:39 am - Neptune lunar square (III.3);
>
> 8:42 am - Mercury-Jupiter conjunct, Jupiter as High-Born of II.92;
>
> 10:00 am - Saturnin Grand Trine with Mars and the Vertex - Venus debased at the East Point, upstaged by the Mercury-Jupiter conjunction, critical time -
>
> << 28 March 2023 10 am CEST / 4 am EDT / 1 am PDT >>;
>
> 10:02 am - Ceres lunar square (ends III.3 condition);
>
> 3:19 pm - Mars lunar conjunct - 'The New Mars for vengeance and remorse' (I.94);
>
> Mercury proceeds to make its next planetary conjunction with Vesta 30 March 2023 4:03 pm CEST, corresponding with the X.6 line -
>
> 'Vesta - sepulchral extinguishing fire to appear'
>
> For the Lady honored through force of terror in I.94, there is Blessed Agnes of Chatillon with feast on 28 March, and an additional memorial on 29 March in the Cisterian order; Agnes served as sub-prioress in the monastery of Beaupre, Belgium, circa 1200. She was a visionary with a particular devotion to the Eucharist, falling into ecstasy frequently after partaking Communion. The extension into the adjacent day with the extra memorial could be what is inferred from the 'New Mars' lunar conjunct date of 28 March 2023.
>
> The Saturn trine with Mars that is foundational for the Chalice officially occurs 30 March 2023 8:15 pm CEST, a date with plausibly relevant hagiology.
>
> Saint Secundus of Asti has the 30 March feast, a Roman soldier of the Patrician class, baptized as a Christian in Milan; when it was discovered he gave a Christian burial to a martyr he fled to Asti, but was ultimately found, tortured and beheaded circa 119. Milan is in the Lombard region for V.42 and VI.16.
>
> The first bishop of Civitas Silvanectium in Gaul was Saint Regulus (died 260), also having a 30 March feast (Gaul to tremble in X.58).
>
> Another memorial on 30 March is for a group of martyrs in Greece circa 300 with Saint Domninus and others, including one named Victor (VI.70).

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On Friday, May 26, 2023 at 7:38:04 AM UTC-7, Famous Amos wrote:
> On Saturday, March 25, 2023 at 3:29:25 PM UTC-4, Curtis Eagal wrote:
> > Bob Eubanks recently recalled how manager Brian Epstein limited the famous group's earning potential by insisting the maximum price for a ticket to a Beatles' concert would be seven dollars. Also there was nothing else for fans to purchase, since attempts to relitigate an unfavorable merchandising deal ruined the production-distribution chain, and the band members were sickened to learn how much income they had lost by that source.
> >
> > There was a harrowing incident when they toured Manila: a public relations nightmare ensued when they were cast as national villains for not attending a state function televised live; the group conferring decided Epstein was ultimately responsible for the scheduling debacle and ensuing ordeal, in a collective terse expletive.
> >
> > *
> >
> > Tornadoes Of 24 March Attributable To Bologna (IX.13)
> >
> > From 4 March 2023:
> >
> > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.prophecies.nostradamus/c/w360JNUDgjU/m/bSo9J79wAQAJ
> >
> > << Two of Modena truculent for Bologna,
> > Set discovered through the fire of Buzancais
> >
> > The interpretation should be focused on hagiology, rather than geography, since timing is thusly frequently obscured.
> >
> > Buzancais was known for a food riot in 1847, with half-starved peasants intercepting grain carts, ultimately suppressed by three rioters being guillotined, after a local elite retaliating with gunfire being beaten to death by the mob caused the remainder to cower. Instead the date of 9 January is inferred via feast for Saint Honorius of Buzancais (d. 1250), a cattle merchant who financially assisted young girls, but was ultimately killed by thieves he had reprimanded.
> >
> > January Ninth 2023 was the day about 1200 insurrectionists were arrested in Brasilia, however the fire in IX.13 may have been supplied by an X1.9-class solar flare from an active sunspot (AR3184) facing Earth that day, causing radio blackouts for parts of South America; the same sunspot was responsible for an X1.2-class solar flare 5 January 2023 (day of the funeral for Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI) - an X2 solar flare is four times more powerful than an M5 flare.
> >
> > Line 3 employs a subtle trick for the 'Two of Modena': the town's patron is Saint Geminiano (312-397), whose name suggests the Gemini twins; although the citizens of Modena overwhelmingly wanted Geminiano for their bishop, he felt unworthy and fled - he had to be found and persuaded. Renowned as an exorcist, Geminiano performed this service successfully for the daughter of Emperor Jovian. In Modena on his 31 January feast there is a special Mass, and his crypt is opened to public view. When Attila the Hun threatened to invade Modena in 452, Geminiano was invoked for protection, and a thick fog conveniently blanketed the city so it was safely bypassed. January 31 2023 was the gap-day between the Three Holy Hierarchs including Basil the Great of 30 January (V.83, VI.78), and the predominantly German thunderstorm with two tornadoes on 1 February 2023. Thus the harsh (or truculent) storm razing a pine forest in northern Germany was indicated as precursor for a later event associated with a Bologna date. >>
> >
> > Tornadoes in the southern US on 24 March 2023 have caused about two dozen fatalities; hagiological research had been done designating Saint John del Bastone with a 24 March feast and association with Bologna for the IX.13 allusion.
> >
> > https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/25/weather/us-severe-storms-saturday/index.html
> >
> > Two episodes of cyclonic activity derived as dual subjects, in different places at different times, makes the fulfillment dramatic.
> >
> > https://tech.hindustantimes.com/tech/news/sun-hurls-out-cme-towards-earth-g1-class-geomagnetic-storm-to-hit-soonuntitled-story-71679283288194.html
> >
> > The open-ended astrological hints for the cataclysmic onset in Geneva appear to coalesce for late March 2023; the Saturnin reign and cycles from I..54 line 2 have transpired, and the hagiology cannot be easily re-evaluated, but several quatrains have presented recent fulfillments suggesting imminent inevitability.
> >
> > There are two close sustained trines that could be used for transforming into a Grand Trine with the Vertex (V.18): Ceres with Pluto, leading to the 9:40 pm CEST general time daily, without much potential for the proper dynamics; and Saturn with Mars, which could provide the Sword element for IX..44, after the 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET Saturnin Grand Trine with solar proximity for the Golden factor.
> >
> > The Saturn-Mars-Vertex Grand Trine for Geneva recurs daily in late March 2023 at a time that also brings Venus into conjunction with the East Point. The Cupbearer falsifies as VI.89 says, until the Chalice is tried with the activating conditions.
> >
> > From V.66 the time after the 21 March 2023 New Moon was indicated, implying a limit at the Half Moon 29 March 4:31 am CEST.
> >
> > A pivotal aspect is Mercury conjoining Jupiter as the striking of the High-Born from II.92 28 March 2023 8:42 am CEST - this provides a rival conjunction diminishing the established claim Venus has on the recurring Grand Trine.
> >
> > Looking back, the prior lunar conjunct was with Ouranos 25 March 2023 12:51 am CET, as VI.70 expresses the noise and light surpassing the Heavens, occurring before the next celestial body is reached.
> >
> > And the prior lunar aspect was a square with Neptune 28 March 2023 3:39 am CEST, for the perplexity between Corinth and Ephesus in III.3.
> >
> > The spot occupied by the rapidly-shifting Vertex to form the Grand Trine with Saturn and Mars is about two degrees into Scorpio, fulfilling the final line of V.42 by suggesting a point 'under the Balance,' or beneath the Libran constellation, bringing the Grand Trine together as combined points.
> >
> > For 28 March 2023 using Geneva coordinates and CEST:
> >
> > 3:39 am - Neptune lunar square (III.3);
> >
> > 8:42 am - Mercury-Jupiter conjunct, Jupiter as High-Born of II.92;
> >
> > 10:00 am - Saturnin Grand Trine with Mars and the Vertex - Venus debased at the East Point, upstaged by the Mercury-Jupiter conjunction, critical time -
> >
> > << 28 March 2023 10 am CEST / 4 am EDT / 1 am PDT >>;
> >
> > 10:02 am - Ceres lunar square (ends III.3 condition);
> >
> > 3:19 pm - Mars lunar conjunct - 'The New Mars for vengeance and remorse' (I.94);
> >
> > Mercury proceeds to make its next planetary conjunction with Vesta 30 March 2023 4:03 pm CEST, corresponding with the X.6 line -
> >
> > 'Vesta - sepulchral extinguishing fire to appear'
> >
> > For the Lady honored through force of terror in I.94, there is Blessed Agnes of Chatillon with feast on 28 March, and an additional memorial on 29 March in the Cisterian order; Agnes served as sub-prioress in the monastery of Beaupre, Belgium, circa 1200. She was a visionary with a particular devotion to the Eucharist, falling into ecstasy frequently after partaking Communion. The extension into the adjacent day with the extra memorial could be what is inferred from the 'New Mars' lunar conjunct date of 28 March 2023.
> >
> > The Saturn trine with Mars that is foundational for the Chalice officially occurs 30 March 2023 8:15 pm CEST, a date with plausibly relevant hagiology.
> >
> > Saint Secundus of Asti has the 30 March feast, a Roman soldier of the Patrician class, baptized as a Christian in Milan; when it was discovered he gave a Christian burial to a martyr he fled to Asti, but was ultimately found, tortured and beheaded circa 119. Milan is in the Lombard region for V.42 and VI.16.
> >
> > The first bishop of Civitas Silvanectium in Gaul was Saint Regulus (died 260), also having a 30 March feast (Gaul to tremble in X.58).
> >
> > Another memorial on 30 March is for a group of martyrs in Greece circa 300 with Saint Domninus and others, including one named Victor (VI.70).
> TheDEFFININ ISHUES OF 2024 ARE;
>
> DISNEYWORLD
> THE DEEP state
>
> books that r3ferents LBGTQ issues
>
> Human Bidens Laptop!!!
>
> But there ain't be no eleckshin CUZ TRUMO GETTIN RE-instayted!!!@
>
> FamUO Aunus!!!!

The 6 January 2021 Capitol riot demonstrated democratic elections may no longer be the deciding factor in US political power, so focus on 2024 seems a quaint view that normalcy will prevail, even when facing the relentless pursuit by one party of destruction of the social contract. Class warfare is over: the wealthy have triumphed by having the lower classes fight over scattered crumbs, while their own banquets are well-subsidized. Gerrymandering has allowed partisan state legislatures to override opposing views with any conceivable support, with states becoming experiments in fascism, not liberty. Progressive thoughts become labeled 'woke,' with regressive remedies sought to essentially turn the clock back towards the bad old days, from the true dark national history. The vaunted strongman leadership now sought by many is already in force several places where few enjoying freedom would wish to visit.

On 28/05/2023 12:13 am, Famous Amos wrote:
> On Saturday, March 25, 2023 at 3:29:25 PM UTC-4, Curtis Eagal wrote:
>> Bob Eubanks recently recalled how manager Brian Epstein limited the famous group's earning potential by insisting the maximum price for a ticket to a Beatles' concert would be seven dollars. Also there was nothing else for fans to purchase, since attempts to relitigate an unfavorable merchandising deal ruined the production-distribution chain, and the band members were sickened to learn how much income they had lost by that source.
>>
>> There was a harrowing incident when they toured Manila: a public relations nightmare ensued when they were cast as national villains for not attending a state function televised live; the group conferring decided Epstein was ultimately responsible for the scheduling debacle and ensuing ordeal, in a collective terse expletive.
>>
>> *
>>
>> Tornadoes Of 24 March Attributable To Bologna (IX.13)
>>
>> From 4 March 2023:
>>
>> https://groups.google.com/g/alt.prophecies.nostradamus/c/w360JNUDgjU/m/bSo9J79wAQAJ
>>
>> << Two of Modena truculent for Bologna,
>> Set discovered through the fire of Buzancais
>>
>> The interpretation should be focused on hagiology, rather than geography, since timing is thusly frequently obscured.
>>
>> Buzancais was known for a food riot in 1847, with half-starved peasants intercepting grain carts, ultimately suppressed by three rioters being guillotined, after a local elite retaliating with gunfire being beaten to death by the mob caused the remainder to cower. Instead the date of 9 January is inferred via feast for Saint Honorius of Buzancais (d. 1250), a cattle merchant who financially assisted young girls, but was ultimately killed by thieves he had reprimanded.
>>
>> January Ninth 2023 was the day about 1200 insurrectionists were arrested in Brasilia, however the fire in IX.13 may have been supplied by an X1.9-class solar flare from an active sunspot (AR3184) facing Earth that day, causing radio blackouts for parts of South America; the same sunspot was responsible for an X1.2-class solar flare 5 January 2023 (day of the funeral for Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI) - an X2 solar flare is four times more powerful than an M5 flare.
>>
>> Line 3 employs a subtle trick for the 'Two of Modena': the town's patron is Saint Geminiano (312-397), whose name suggests the Gemini twins; although the citizens of Modena overwhelmingly wanted Geminiano for their bishop, he felt unworthy and fled - he had to be found and persuaded. Renowned as an exorcist, Geminiano performed this service successfully for the daughter of Emperor Jovian. In Modena on his 31 January feast there is a special Mass, and his crypt is opened to public view. When Attila the Hun threatened to invade Modena in 452, Geminiano was invoked for protection, and a thick fog conveniently blanketed the city so it was safely bypassed. January 31 2023 was the gap-day between the Three Holy Hierarchs including Basil the Great of 30 January (V.83, VI.78), and the predominantly German thunderstorm with two tornadoes on 1 February 2023. Thus the harsh (or truculent) storm razing a pine forest in northern Germany was indicated as precursor for a later event associated with a Bologna date. >>
>>
>> Tornadoes in the southern US on 24 March 2023 have caused about two dozen fatalities; hagiological research had been done designating Saint John del Bastone with a 24 March feast and association with Bologna for the IX.13 allusion.
>>
>> https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/25/weather/us-severe-storms-saturday/index.html
>>
>> Two episodes of cyclonic activity derived as dual subjects, in different places at different times, makes the fulfillment dramatic.
>>
>> https://tech.hindustantimes.com/tech/news/sun-hurls-out-cme-towards-earth-g1-class-geomagnetic-storm-to-hit-soonuntitled-story-71679283288194.html
>>
>> The open-ended astrological hints for the cataclysmic onset in Geneva appear to coalesce for late March 2023; the Saturnin reign and cycles from I.54 line 2 have transpired, and the hagiology cannot be easily re-evaluated, but several quatrains have presented recent fulfillments suggesting imminent inevitability.
>>
>> There are two close sustained trines that could be used for transforming into a Grand Trine with the Vertex (V.18): Ceres with Pluto, leading to the 9:40 pm CEST general time daily, without much potential for the proper dynamics; and Saturn with Mars, which could provide the Sword element for IX.44, after the 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET Saturnin Grand Trine with solar proximity for the Golden factor.
>>
>> The Saturn-Mars-Vertex Grand Trine for Geneva recurs daily in late March 2023 at a time that also brings Venus into conjunction with the East Point. The Cupbearer falsifies as VI.89 says, until the Chalice is tried with the activating conditions.
>>
>> From V.66 the time after the 21 March 2023 New Moon was indicated, implying a limit at the Half Moon 29 March 4:31 am CEST.
>>
>> A pivotal aspect is Mercury conjoining Jupiter as the striking of the High-Born from II.92 28 March 2023 8:42 am CEST - this provides a rival conjunction diminishing the established claim Venus has on the recurring Grand Trine.
>>
>> Looking back, the prior lunar conjunct was with Ouranos 25 March 2023 12:51 am CET, as VI.70 expresses the noise and light surpassing the Heavens, occurring before the next celestial body is reached.
>>
>> And the prior lunar aspect was a square with Neptune 28 March 2023 3:39 am CEST, for the perplexity between Corinth and Ephesus in III.3.
>>
>> The spot occupied by the rapidly-shifting Vertex to form the Grand Trine with Saturn and Mars is about two degrees into Scorpio, fulfilling the final line of V.42 by suggesting a point 'under the Balance,' or beneath the Libran constellation, bringing the Grand Trine together as combined points.
>>
>> For 28 March 2023 using Geneva coordinates and CEST:
>>
>> 3:39 am - Neptune lunar square (III.3);
>>
>> 8:42 am - Mercury-Jupiter conjunct, Jupiter as High-Born of II.92;
>>
>> 10:00 am - Saturnin Grand Trine with Mars and the Vertex - Venus debased at the East Point, upstaged by the Mercury-Jupiter conjunction, critical time -
>>
>> << 28 March 2023 10 am CEST / 4 am EDT / 1 am PDT >>;
>>
>> 10:02 am - Ceres lunar square (ends III.3 condition);
>>
>> 3:19 pm - Mars lunar conjunct - 'The New Mars for vengeance and remorse' (I.94);
>>
>> Mercury proceeds to make its next planetary conjunction with Vesta 30 March 2023 4:03 pm CEST, corresponding with the X.6 line -
>>
>> 'Vesta - sepulchral extinguishing fire to appear'
>>
>> For the Lady honored through force of terror in I.94, there is Blessed Agnes of Chatillon with feast on 28 March, and an additional memorial on 29 March in the Cisterian order; Agnes served as sub-prioress in the monastery of Beaupre, Belgium, circa 1200. She was a visionary with a particular devotion to the Eucharist, falling into ecstasy frequently after partaking Communion. The extension into the adjacent day with the extra memorial could be what is inferred from the 'New Mars' lunar conjunct date of 28 March 2023.
>>
>> The Saturn trine with Mars that is foundational for the Chalice officially occurs 30 March 2023 8:15 pm CEST, a date with plausibly relevant hagiology.
>>
>> Saint Secundus of Asti has the 30 March feast, a Roman soldier of the Patrician class, baptized as a Christian in Milan; when it was discovered he gave a Christian burial to a martyr he fled to Asti, but was ultimately found, tortured and beheaded circa 119. Milan is in the Lombard region for V.42 and VI.16.
>>
>> The first bishop of Civitas Silvanectium in Gaul was Saint Regulus (died 260), also having a 30 March feast (Gaul to tremble in X.58).
>>
>> Another memorial on 30 March is for a group of martyrs in Greece circa 300 with Saint Domninus and others, including one named Victor (VI.70).
>
> King Jom Un is top of the line
> Putin is a genious and a friend of Mine
>
> That woman is a whack-job I neva met her
> The Sowdee Prince is a man I prefer
>
> I can do what I want with the dockyoumints
> I unproven all actions of the Sowdee Prince!!!!
>
> Genious!! I am the Masta Of Windmills'!!!!!

Is Curtis Eagal and Famous Amos in fact the same person ? Curious, as
threads from Curtis mostly consist of him replying to his own bizarre
rants. And FA similarly, but with a little interaction between the 'two'.
geoff

On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 7:03:28 PM UTC-7, geoff wrote:
> On 28/05/2023 12:13 am, Famous Amos wrote:
> > On Saturday, March 25, 2023 at 3:29:25 PM UTC-4, Curtis Eagal wrote:
> >> Bob Eubanks recently recalled how manager Brian Epstein limited the famous group's earning potential by insisting the maximum price for a ticket to a Beatles' concert would be seven dollars. Also there was nothing else for fans to purchase, since attempts to relitigate an unfavorable merchandising deal ruined the production-distribution chain, and the band members were sickened to learn how much income they had lost by that source.
> >>
> >> There was a harrowing incident when they toured Manila: a public relations nightmare ensued when they were cast as national villains for not attending a state function televised live; the group conferring decided Epstein was ultimately responsible for the scheduling debacle and ensuing ordeal, in a collective terse expletive.
> >>
> >> *
> >>
> >> Tornadoes Of 24 March Attributable To Bologna (IX.13)
> >>
> >> From 4 March 2023:
> >>
> >> https://groups.google.com/g/alt.prophecies.nostradamus/c/w360JNUDgjU/m/bSo9J79wAQAJ
> >>
> >> << Two of Modena truculent for Bologna,
> >> Set discovered through the fire of Buzancais
> >>
> >> The interpretation should be focused on hagiology, rather than geography, since timing is thusly frequently obscured.
> >>
> >> Buzancais was known for a food riot in 1847, with half-starved peasants intercepting grain carts, ultimately suppressed by three rioters being guillotined, after a local elite retaliating with gunfire being beaten to death by the mob caused the remainder to cower. Instead the date of 9 January is inferred via feast for Saint Honorius of Buzancais (d. 1250), a cattle merchant who financially assisted young girls, but was ultimately killed by thieves he had reprimanded.
> >>
> >> January Ninth 2023 was the day about 1200 insurrectionists were arrested in Brasilia, however the fire in IX.13 may have been supplied by an X1.9-class solar flare from an active sunspot (AR3184) facing Earth that day, causing radio blackouts for parts of South America; the same sunspot was responsible for an X1.2-class solar flare 5 January 2023 (day of the funeral for Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI) - an X2 solar flare is four times more powerful than an M5 flare.
> >>
> >> Line 3 employs a subtle trick for the 'Two of Modena': the town's patron is Saint Geminiano (312-397), whose name suggests the Gemini twins; although the citizens of Modena overwhelmingly wanted Geminiano for their bishop, he felt unworthy and fled - he had to be found and persuaded. Renowned as an exorcist, Geminiano performed this service successfully for the daughter of Emperor Jovian. In Modena on his 31 January feast there is a special Mass, and his crypt is opened to public view. When Attila the Hun threatened to invade Modena in 452, Geminiano was invoked for protection, and a thick fog conveniently blanketed the city so it was safely bypassed. January 31 2023 was the gap-day between the Three Holy Hierarchs including Basil the Great of 30 January (V.83, VI.78), and the predominantly German thunderstorm with two tornadoes on 1 February 2023. Thus the harsh (or truculent) storm razing a pine forest in northern Germany was indicated as precursor for a later event associated with a Bologna date. >>
> >>
> >> Tornadoes in the southern US on 24 March 2023 have caused about two dozen fatalities; hagiological research had been done designating Saint John del Bastone with a 24 March feast and association with Bologna for the IX.13 allusion.
> >>
> >> https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/25/weather/us-severe-storms-saturday/index..html
> >>
> >> Two episodes of cyclonic activity derived as dual subjects, in different places at different times, makes the fulfillment dramatic.
> >>
> >> https://tech.hindustantimes.com/tech/news/sun-hurls-out-cme-towards-earth-g1-class-geomagnetic-storm-to-hit-soonuntitled-story-71679283288194.html
> >>
> >> The open-ended astrological hints for the cataclysmic onset in Geneva appear to coalesce for late March 2023; the Saturnin reign and cycles from I.54 line 2 have transpired, and the hagiology cannot be easily re-evaluated, but several quatrains have presented recent fulfillments suggesting imminent inevitability.
> >>
> >> There are two close sustained trines that could be used for transforming into a Grand Trine with the Vertex (V.18): Ceres with Pluto, leading to the 9:40 pm CEST general time daily, without much potential for the proper dynamics; and Saturn with Mars, which could provide the Sword element for IX.44, after the 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET Saturnin Grand Trine with solar proximity for the Golden factor.
> >>
> >> The Saturn-Mars-Vertex Grand Trine for Geneva recurs daily in late March 2023 at a time that also brings Venus into conjunction with the East Point. The Cupbearer falsifies as VI.89 says, until the Chalice is tried with the activating conditions.
> >>
> >> From V.66 the time after the 21 March 2023 New Moon was indicated, implying a limit at the Half Moon 29 March 4:31 am CEST.
> >>
> >> A pivotal aspect is Mercury conjoining Jupiter as the striking of the High-Born from II.92 28 March 2023 8:42 am CEST - this provides a rival conjunction diminishing the established claim Venus has on the recurring Grand Trine.
> >>
> >> Looking back, the prior lunar conjunct was with Ouranos 25 March 2023 12:51 am CET, as VI.70 expresses the noise and light surpassing the Heavens, occurring before the next celestial body is reached.
> >>
> >> And the prior lunar aspect was a square with Neptune 28 March 2023 3:39 am CEST, for the perplexity between Corinth and Ephesus in III.3.
> >>
> >> The spot occupied by the rapidly-shifting Vertex to form the Grand Trine with Saturn and Mars is about two degrees into Scorpio, fulfilling the final line of V.42 by suggesting a point 'under the Balance,' or beneath the Libran constellation, bringing the Grand Trine together as combined points..
> >>
> >> For 28 March 2023 using Geneva coordinates and CEST:
> >>
> >> 3:39 am - Neptune lunar square (III.3);
> >>
> >> 8:42 am - Mercury-Jupiter conjunct, Jupiter as High-Born of II.92;
> >>
> >> 10:00 am - Saturnin Grand Trine with Mars and the Vertex - Venus debased at the East Point, upstaged by the Mercury-Jupiter conjunction, critical time -
> >>
> >> << 28 March 2023 10 am CEST / 4 am EDT / 1 am PDT >>;
> >>
> >> 10:02 am - Ceres lunar square (ends III.3 condition);
> >>
> >> 3:19 pm - Mars lunar conjunct - 'The New Mars for vengeance and remorse' (I.94);
> >>
> >> Mercury proceeds to make its next planetary conjunction with Vesta 30 March 2023 4:03 pm CEST, corresponding with the X.6 line -
> >>
> >> 'Vesta - sepulchral extinguishing fire to appear'
> >>
> >> For the Lady honored through force of terror in I.94, there is Blessed Agnes of Chatillon with feast on 28 March, and an additional memorial on 29 March in the Cisterian order; Agnes served as sub-prioress in the monastery of Beaupre, Belgium, circa 1200. She was a visionary with a particular devotion to the Eucharist, falling into ecstasy frequently after partaking Communion. The extension into the adjacent day with the extra memorial could be what is inferred from the 'New Mars' lunar conjunct date of 28 March 2023.
> >>
> >> The Saturn trine with Mars that is foundational for the Chalice officially occurs 30 March 2023 8:15 pm CEST, a date with plausibly relevant hagiology.
> >>
> >> Saint Secundus of Asti has the 30 March feast, a Roman soldier of the Patrician class, baptized as a Christian in Milan; when it was discovered he gave a Christian burial to a martyr he fled to Asti, but was ultimately found, tortured and beheaded circa 119. Milan is in the Lombard region for V..42 and VI.16.
> >>
> >> The first bishop of Civitas Silvanectium in Gaul was Saint Regulus (died 260), also having a 30 March feast (Gaul to tremble in X.58).
> >>
> >> Another memorial on 30 March is for a group of martyrs in Greece circa 300 with Saint Domninus and others, including one named Victor (VI.70).
> >
> > King Jom Un is top of the line
> > Putin is a genious and a friend of Mine
> >
> > That woman is a whack-job I neva met her
> > The Sowdee Prince is a man I prefer
> >
> > I can do what I want with the dockyoumints
> > I unproven all actions of the Sowdee Prince!!!!
> >
> > Genious!! I am the Masta Of Windmills'!!!!!
> Is Curtis Eagal and Famous Amos in fact the same person ? Curious, as
> threads from Curtis mostly consist of him replying to his own bizarre
> rants. And FA similarly, but with a little interaction between the 'two'.
>
> geoff

On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 7:03:28 PM UTC-7, geoff wrote:
> On 28/05/2023 12:13 am, Famous Amos wrote:
> > On Saturday, March 25, 2023 at 3:29:25 PM UTC-4, Curtis Eagal wrote:
> >> Bob Eubanks recently recalled how manager Brian Epstein limited the famous group's earning potential by insisting the maximum price for a ticket to a Beatles' concert would be seven dollars. Also there was nothing else for fans to purchase, since attempts to relitigate an unfavorable merchandising deal ruined the production-distribution chain, and the band members were sickened to learn how much income they had lost by that source.
> >>
> >> There was a harrowing incident when they toured Manila: a public relations nightmare ensued when they were cast as national villains for not attending a state function televised live; the group conferring decided Epstein was ultimately responsible for the scheduling debacle and ensuing ordeal, in a collective terse expletive.
> >>
> >> *
> >>
> >> Tornadoes Of 24 March Attributable To Bologna (IX.13)
> >>
> >> From 4 March 2023:
> >>
> >> https://groups.google.com/g/alt.prophecies.nostradamus/c/w360JNUDgjU/m/bSo9J79wAQAJ
> >>
> >> << Two of Modena truculent for Bologna,
> >> Set discovered through the fire of Buzancais
> >>
> >> The interpretation should be focused on hagiology, rather than geography, since timing is thusly frequently obscured.
> >>
> >> Buzancais was known for a food riot in 1847, with half-starved peasants intercepting grain carts, ultimately suppressed by three rioters being guillotined, after a local elite retaliating with gunfire being beaten to death by the mob caused the remainder to cower. Instead the date of 9 January is inferred via feast for Saint Honorius of Buzancais (d. 1250), a cattle merchant who financially assisted young girls, but was ultimately killed by thieves he had reprimanded.
> >>
> >> January Ninth 2023 was the day about 1200 insurrectionists were arrested in Brasilia, however the fire in IX.13 may have been supplied by an X1.9-class solar flare from an active sunspot (AR3184) facing Earth that day, causing radio blackouts for parts of South America; the same sunspot was responsible for an X1.2-class solar flare 5 January 2023 (day of the funeral for Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI) - an X2 solar flare is four times more powerful than an M5 flare.
> >>
> >> Line 3 employs a subtle trick for the 'Two of Modena': the town's patron is Saint Geminiano (312-397), whose name suggests the Gemini twins; although the citizens of Modena overwhelmingly wanted Geminiano for their bishop, he felt unworthy and fled - he had to be found and persuaded. Renowned as an exorcist, Geminiano performed this service successfully for the daughter of Emperor Jovian. In Modena on his 31 January feast there is a special Mass, and his crypt is opened to public view. When Attila the Hun threatened to invade Modena in 452, Geminiano was invoked for protection, and a thick fog conveniently blanketed the city so it was safely bypassed. January 31 2023 was the gap-day between the Three Holy Hierarchs including Basil the Great of 30 January (V.83, VI.78), and the predominantly German thunderstorm with two tornadoes on 1 February 2023. Thus the harsh (or truculent) storm razing a pine forest in northern Germany was indicated as precursor for a later event associated with a Bologna date. >>
> >>
> >> Tornadoes in the southern US on 24 March 2023 have caused about two dozen fatalities; hagiological research had been done designating Saint John del Bastone with a 24 March feast and association with Bologna for the IX.13 allusion.
> >>
> >> https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/25/weather/us-severe-storms-saturday/index..html
> >>
> >> Two episodes of cyclonic activity derived as dual subjects, in different places at different times, makes the fulfillment dramatic.
> >>
> >> https://tech.hindustantimes.com/tech/news/sun-hurls-out-cme-towards-earth-g1-class-geomagnetic-storm-to-hit-soonuntitled-story-71679283288194.html
> >>
> >> The open-ended astrological hints for the cataclysmic onset in Geneva appear to coalesce for late March 2023; the Saturnin reign and cycles from I.54 line 2 have transpired, and the hagiology cannot be easily re-evaluated, but several quatrains have presented recent fulfillments suggesting imminent inevitability.
> >>
> >> There are two close sustained trines that could be used for transforming into a Grand Trine with the Vertex (V.18): Ceres with Pluto, leading to the 9:40 pm CEST general time daily, without much potential for the proper dynamics; and Saturn with Mars, which could provide the Sword element for IX.44, after the 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET Saturnin Grand Trine with solar proximity for the Golden factor.
> >>
> >> The Saturn-Mars-Vertex Grand Trine for Geneva recurs daily in late March 2023 at a time that also brings Venus into conjunction with the East Point. The Cupbearer falsifies as VI.89 says, until the Chalice is tried with the activating conditions.
> >>
> >> From V.66 the time after the 21 March 2023 New Moon was indicated, implying a limit at the Half Moon 29 March 4:31 am CEST.
> >>
> >> A pivotal aspect is Mercury conjoining Jupiter as the striking of the High-Born from II.92 28 March 2023 8:42 am CEST - this provides a rival conjunction diminishing the established claim Venus has on the recurring Grand Trine.
> >>
> >> Looking back, the prior lunar conjunct was with Ouranos 25 March 2023 12:51 am CET, as VI.70 expresses the noise and light surpassing the Heavens, occurring before the next celestial body is reached.
> >>
> >> And the prior lunar aspect was a square with Neptune 28 March 2023 3:39 am CEST, for the perplexity between Corinth and Ephesus in III.3.
> >>
> >> The spot occupied by the rapidly-shifting Vertex to form the Grand Trine with Saturn and Mars is about two degrees into Scorpio, fulfilling the final line of V.42 by suggesting a point 'under the Balance,' or beneath the Libran constellation, bringing the Grand Trine together as combined points..
> >>
> >> For 28 March 2023 using Geneva coordinates and CEST:
> >>
> >> 3:39 am - Neptune lunar square (III.3);
> >>
> >> 8:42 am - Mercury-Jupiter conjunct, Jupiter as High-Born of II.92;
> >>
> >> 10:00 am - Saturnin Grand Trine with Mars and the Vertex - Venus debased at the East Point, upstaged by the Mercury-Jupiter conjunction, critical time -
> >>
> >> << 28 March 2023 10 am CEST / 4 am EDT / 1 am PDT >>;
> >>
> >> 10:02 am - Ceres lunar square (ends III.3 condition);
> >>
> >> 3:19 pm - Mars lunar conjunct - 'The New Mars for vengeance and remorse' (I.94);
> >>
> >> Mercury proceeds to make its next planetary conjunction with Vesta 30 March 2023 4:03 pm CEST, corresponding with the X.6 line -
> >>
> >> 'Vesta - sepulchral extinguishing fire to appear'
> >>
> >> For the Lady honored through force of terror in I.94, there is Blessed Agnes of Chatillon with feast on 28 March, and an additional memorial on 29 March in the Cisterian order; Agnes served as sub-prioress in the monastery of Beaupre, Belgium, circa 1200. She was a visionary with a particular devotion to the Eucharist, falling into ecstasy frequently after partaking Communion. The extension into the adjacent day with the extra memorial could be what is inferred from the 'New Mars' lunar conjunct date of 28 March 2023.
> >>
> >> The Saturn trine with Mars that is foundational for the Chalice officially occurs 30 March 2023 8:15 pm CEST, a date with plausibly relevant hagiology.
> >>
> >> Saint Secundus of Asti has the 30 March feast, a Roman soldier of the Patrician class, baptized as a Christian in Milan; when it was discovered he gave a Christian burial to a martyr he fled to Asti, but was ultimately found, tortured and beheaded circa 119. Milan is in the Lombard region for V..42 and VI.16.
> >>
> >> The first bishop of Civitas Silvanectium in Gaul was Saint Regulus (died 260), also having a 30 March feast (Gaul to tremble in X.58).
> >>
> >> Another memorial on 30 March is for a group of martyrs in Greece circa 300 with Saint Domninus and others, including one named Victor (VI.70).
> >
> > King Jom Un is top of the line
> > Putin is a genious and a friend of Mine
> >
> > That woman is a whack-job I neva met her
> > The Sowdee Prince is a man I prefer
> >
> > I can do what I want with the dockyoumints
> > I unproven all actions of the Sowdee Prince!!!!
> >
> > Genious!! I am the Masta Of Windmills'!!!!!
> Is Curtis Eagal and Famous Amos in fact the same person ? Curious, as
> threads from Curtis mostly consist of him replying to his own bizarre
> rants. And FA similarly, but with a little interaction between the 'two'.
>
> geoff

On Monday, May 29, 2023 at 4:56:40 PM UTC-7, Curtis Eagal wrote:
> On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 7:03:28 PM UTC-7, geoff wrote:
> > On 28/05/2023 12:13 am, Famous Amos wrote:
> > > On Saturday, March 25, 2023 at 3:29:25 PM UTC-4, Curtis Eagal wrote:
> > >> Bob Eubanks recently recalled how manager Brian Epstein limited the famous group's earning potential by insisting the maximum price for a ticket to a Beatles' concert would be seven dollars. Also there was nothing else for fans to purchase, since attempts to relitigate an unfavorable merchandising deal ruined the production-distribution chain, and the band members were sickened to learn how much income they had lost by that source.
> > >>
> > >> There was a harrowing incident when they toured Manila: a public relations nightmare ensued when they were cast as national villains for not attending a state function televised live; the group conferring decided Epstein was ultimately responsible for the scheduling debacle and ensuing ordeal, in a collective terse expletive.
> > >>
> > >> *
> > >>
> > >> Tornadoes Of 24 March Attributable To Bologna (IX.13)
> > >>
> > >> From 4 March 2023:
> > >>
> > >> https://groups.google.com/g/alt.prophecies.nostradamus/c/w360JNUDgjU/m/bSo9J79wAQAJ
> > >>
> > >> << Two of Modena truculent for Bologna,
> > >> Set discovered through the fire of Buzancais
> > >>
> > >> The interpretation should be focused on hagiology, rather than geography, since timing is thusly frequently obscured.
> > >>
> > >> Buzancais was known for a food riot in 1847, with half-starved peasants intercepting grain carts, ultimately suppressed by three rioters being guillotined, after a local elite retaliating with gunfire being beaten to death by the mob caused the remainder to cower. Instead the date of 9 January is inferred via feast for Saint Honorius of Buzancais (d. 1250), a cattle merchant who financially assisted young girls, but was ultimately killed by thieves he had reprimanded.
> > >>
> > >> January Ninth 2023 was the day about 1200 insurrectionists were arrested in Brasilia, however the fire in IX.13 may have been supplied by an X1..9-class solar flare from an active sunspot (AR3184) facing Earth that day, causing radio blackouts for parts of South America; the same sunspot was responsible for an X1.2-class solar flare 5 January 2023 (day of the funeral for Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI) - an X2 solar flare is four times more powerful than an M5 flare.
> > >>
> > >> Line 3 employs a subtle trick for the 'Two of Modena': the town's patron is Saint Geminiano (312-397), whose name suggests the Gemini twins; although the citizens of Modena overwhelmingly wanted Geminiano for their bishop, he felt unworthy and fled - he had to be found and persuaded. Renowned as an exorcist, Geminiano performed this service successfully for the daughter of Emperor Jovian. In Modena on his 31 January feast there is a special Mass, and his crypt is opened to public view. When Attila the Hun threatened to invade Modena in 452, Geminiano was invoked for protection, and a thick fog conveniently blanketed the city so it was safely bypassed. January 31 2023 was the gap-day between the Three Holy Hierarchs including Basil the Great of 30 January (V.83, VI.78), and the predominantly German thunderstorm with two tornadoes on 1 February 2023. Thus the harsh (or truculent) storm razing a pine forest in northern Germany was indicated as precursor for a later event associated with a Bologna date. >>
> > >>
> > >> Tornadoes in the southern US on 24 March 2023 have caused about two dozen fatalities; hagiological research had been done designating Saint John del Bastone with a 24 March feast and association with Bologna for the IX..13 allusion.
> > >>
> > >> https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/25/weather/us-severe-storms-saturday/index.html
> > >>
> > >> Two episodes of cyclonic activity derived as dual subjects, in different places at different times, makes the fulfillment dramatic.
> > >>
> > >> https://tech.hindustantimes.com/tech/news/sun-hurls-out-cme-towards-earth-g1-class-geomagnetic-storm-to-hit-soonuntitled-story-71679283288194.html
> > >>
> > >> The open-ended astrological hints for the cataclysmic onset in Geneva appear to coalesce for late March 2023; the Saturnin reign and cycles from I.54 line 2 have transpired, and the hagiology cannot be easily re-evaluated, but several quatrains have presented recent fulfillments suggesting imminent inevitability.
> > >>
> > >> There are two close sustained trines that could be used for transforming into a Grand Trine with the Vertex (V.18): Ceres with Pluto, leading to the 9:40 pm CEST general time daily, without much potential for the proper dynamics; and Saturn with Mars, which could provide the Sword element for IX.44, after the 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET Saturnin Grand Trine with solar proximity for the Golden factor.
> > >>
> > >> The Saturn-Mars-Vertex Grand Trine for Geneva recurs daily in late March 2023 at a time that also brings Venus into conjunction with the East Point. The Cupbearer falsifies as VI.89 says, until the Chalice is tried with the activating conditions.
> > >>
> > >> From V.66 the time after the 21 March 2023 New Moon was indicated, implying a limit at the Half Moon 29 March 4:31 am CEST.
> > >>
> > >> A pivotal aspect is Mercury conjoining Jupiter as the striking of the High-Born from II.92 28 March 2023 8:42 am CEST - this provides a rival conjunction diminishing the established claim Venus has on the recurring Grand Trine.
> > >>
> > >> Looking back, the prior lunar conjunct was with Ouranos 25 March 2023 12:51 am CET, as VI.70 expresses the noise and light surpassing the Heavens, occurring before the next celestial body is reached.
> > >>
> > >> And the prior lunar aspect was a square with Neptune 28 March 2023 3:39 am CEST, for the perplexity between Corinth and Ephesus in III.3.
> > >>
> > >> The spot occupied by the rapidly-shifting Vertex to form the Grand Trine with Saturn and Mars is about two degrees into Scorpio, fulfilling the final line of V.42 by suggesting a point 'under the Balance,' or beneath the Libran constellation, bringing the Grand Trine together as combined points.
> > >>
> > >> For 28 March 2023 using Geneva coordinates and CEST:
> > >>
> > >> 3:39 am - Neptune lunar square (III.3);
> > >>
> > >> 8:42 am - Mercury-Jupiter conjunct, Jupiter as High-Born of II.92;
> > >>
> > >> 10:00 am - Saturnin Grand Trine with Mars and the Vertex - Venus debased at the East Point, upstaged by the Mercury-Jupiter conjunction, critical time -
> > >>
> > >> << 28 March 2023 10 am CEST / 4 am EDT / 1 am PDT >>;
> > >>
> > >> 10:02 am - Ceres lunar square (ends III.3 condition);
> > >>
> > >> 3:19 pm - Mars lunar conjunct - 'The New Mars for vengeance and remorse' (I.94);
> > >>
> > >> Mercury proceeds to make its next planetary conjunction with Vesta 30 March 2023 4:03 pm CEST, corresponding with the X.6 line -
> > >>
> > >> 'Vesta - sepulchral extinguishing fire to appear'
> > >>
> > >> For the Lady honored through force of terror in I.94, there is Blessed Agnes of Chatillon with feast on 28 March, and an additional memorial on 29 March in the Cisterian order; Agnes served as sub-prioress in the monastery of Beaupre, Belgium, circa 1200. She was a visionary with a particular devotion to the Eucharist, falling into ecstasy frequently after partaking Communion. The extension into the adjacent day with the extra memorial could be what is inferred from the 'New Mars' lunar conjunct date of 28 March 2023.
> > >>
> > >> The Saturn trine with Mars that is foundational for the Chalice officially occurs 30 March 2023 8:15 pm CEST, a date with plausibly relevant hagiology.
> > >>
> > >> Saint Secundus of Asti has the 30 March feast, a Roman soldier of the Patrician class, baptized as a Christian in Milan; when it was discovered he gave a Christian burial to a martyr he fled to Asti, but was ultimately found, tortured and beheaded circa 119. Milan is in the Lombard region for V.42 and VI.16.
> > >>
> > >> The first bishop of Civitas Silvanectium in Gaul was Saint Regulus (died 260), also having a 30 March feast (Gaul to tremble in X.58).
> > >>
> > >> Another memorial on 30 March is for a group of martyrs in Greece circa 300 with Saint Domninus and others, including one named Victor (VI.70).
> > >
> > > King Jom Un is top of the line
> > > Putin is a genious and a friend of Mine
> > >
> > > That woman is a whack-job I neva met her
> > > The Sowdee Prince is a man I prefer
> > >
> > > I can do what I want with the dockyoumints
> > > I unproven all actions of the Sowdee Prince!!!!
> > >
> > > Genious!! I am the Masta Of Windmills'!!!!!
> > Is Curtis Eagal and Famous Amos in fact the same person ? Curious, as
> > threads from Curtis mostly consist of him replying to his own bizarre
> > rants. And FA similarly, but with a little interaction between the 'two'.
> >
> > geoff
> I am not replying to myself, but demonstrating that although the major event is imminent the sequence had to be observed and analyzed, which is far too complex a notion to be conveyed in a single post, as if I knew everything at the outset, or remade my message every time - this is a refinement of something determined to be inevitable, drawing on the logic of a long yet unreported track record. The modern attention span is definitely diminishing, but the relevant sequence started 2 February 2023 with the all-day Venusian Grand Trine on feast of Saint Joan de Lestonnac, as solution for part of X.17, which was set at the Juno-Venus-Node conjunct of 21 March 2023 at the New Moon. These correlations with the astrology are specific to 2023, even if they are too subtle and cryptic to be communicated as anything but nonsense by the average person. I've had people say it's like Chinese to them.. If this were common knowledge I would not feel obligated to provide the information. There have been numerous occasions where the conjectures have resulted in definite fulfillments, but since these have not been reported in media there is sustained yet baseless resistance to acknowledging the continuing effect of known prophecies being genuine into the current era, just as any theory regarding The Beatles would be culturally preferable to admitting they fed society back the story of Jesus without it being recognized.
>
> It is not as if I believe fulfillment can convince anyone anymore, if that were the case it would have been with the exact date foretold for the Columbia shuttle disaster 16 months early, or the date for the Floyd death more recently, which was also pinpointed, in that case as a trigger for widespread anger, before it occurred.
>
> The Beatles labored ingeniously on a pop-culture version of the Christian story, only to have their fans project any other dark and sinister things onto their work, and regard inherently obvious solutions as some bizarre invasive idea, while consistent with all their remarks from interviews. Everything they created was like a piece of a puzzle, just like with Nostradamus: except while they regressively built a Remembrance of the Christian story, the French seer was encoding something like the Akashic records.
>
> In the first few bars of "Lady Madonna" with the piano mimicking Fats Domino from "Badpenny Blues," there is the same theme as in "Back In The USSR":
>
> 'When He -
> Was Thirteen'
>
> In the middle of the USSR solo, the guitar is played as if to emphatically convey,
>
> '...He - Left - Home -
> At - Thir-teen...'
>
> The oddly bent note opening the White Album also sounds remarkably like,
>
> 'TWELVE'
>
> The musical dream was for the subconscious, built into all the hooks and riffs, which is so consciously enjoyable the tendency is not to look past that pleasure.
>
> * Lovely Lethal Metal Maid *
>
> The conjunction of Vesta and Ouranos takes place about twenty-two minutes after the pair drops beneath the Ecliptic (30 May 2023 7:33 pm CEST), thereby aligning with the remark from V.65 that the lady on burning coals will no longer be in view, having recently set by the projected schedule.
>
> Des principaux de l'affaire caches
> Et dame en braise plus ne sera en vue
>
> With the principals of the affair hidden
> And the lady on burning coals will no longer be in view
>
> The principal players in the 'Saturnin Affair' are either conceptual (Vertex, Fortune, Ascendant, South Node) or beneath the Ecliptic (Saturn and Neptune), except for Venus herself; there is nothing special about the lunar appearance for being mid-way through Libra, waxing from a Half Moon. The theme of V.65 is that the Higher Powers allow the sudden terror, with the signs expressed subtly towards an overtly innocuous situation, gradually angered into withdrawing assistance that might otherwise be provided. While V.66 focused on the 20 April 2023 solar eclipse in line 4, the previous line may have shifted without fanfare to the recent Half Moon 27 May 2023.
>
> Since 30 May is feast for Saint Joan of Arc, who was burned alive on that day in 1431, the references to a lady engulfed by flames in V.65 and VI.19 could work in tandem, except that a saint should probably not want to put Innocents to the fire, even if that was how their own martyrdom manifested. The 8 May 2023 4:48 pm CEST Vesta engulfment by Fortune identifying the Candle configuration as the True Flame, for later reiteration using the Vertex, could explain VI.19 without Saint Joan directly.
>
> Because the Vesta-Ouranos coupling is part of the populous grouping in Taurus, and their merging is synchronized with the appearance of the Venusian-Neptunian Chalice, that could explain the betrayal originating from the Great Urn as the Taurean constellation in X.50, also inhabited by the Node, Jupiter, and Mercury.
>
> Saint Maximus of Trier was born near Poitiers, and is depicted with a bear, for the 29 May feast, which could figure in line 3 of VIII.52 -
>
> Ongle a Poitiers saintes ailes ruiner
>
> Claw at Poitiers, holy saints to ruin
>
> A Lombard connection with 30 May for V.42 exists via feast for Saint Anastasius II, who converted from the heresy of Arianism, which disputed the divinity of Christ by a Trinitarian comparison with the Creator-Father presumptive character.
>
> Upon conversion, Anastasius was appointed Bishop of Pavia, Lombardy in 668, remaining so until his death in 680.
>
> While Geneva's Midheaven version of the Candle dual trine with Saturn and the South Node does not have an ominous Grand Trine 30 May 2023 3:22 pm CEST, when the configuration is consummated by the Saturn-Midheaven trine about twelve minutes later (3:34 pm CEST), the chart elements appears conspicuously orchestrated, with several independent conditions temporally coalescing:
>
> Pallas in Leo lunar sextile at 11 degrees 45 minutes respectively;
>
> Solar Grand Trine with Fortune and the East Point - this is a very tight triangular form at the 8-degree point in the Air signs, with the East Point substituting for the nearby Ascendant as the pattern with Fortune is slipping out of phase for the Venusian false rapport.
>
> This brief Solar Chalice at the conclusion of the Upright Candleflame configuration, synchronized with the Pallas lunar aspect, in context could fulfill the line from IV.58 about the burning Sun to be swallowed, considering the Venusian-Neptunian Chalice during the subsequent Vertex iteration of the Candle.
>
> Saints Joan of Arc and Anastasius seemed featured for 30 May 2023; 31 May is feast for the Visitation, which appears skipped.
>
> Saint Reverianus with 1 June feast was bishop of Autun, missionary to Gaul circa 273 by order of Emperor Aurelian he was beheaded, martyred with Saint Paulus and ten others; Gaul is to tremble in X.58.
>
> Also for 1 June are concurrent feasts for Saints Felinus and Gratia of Perugia (martyrs circa 250), and Saint Peter of Pisa (1355-1435) - this is an unanticipated possibility for 'Perugia at Pisa' to solve VII.5. The name 'Gratia' could be hinted by the Ile de Graye specific island theme of V.16.
>
> Again skipping a day, for 3 June there are two concurrent feasts that could be the meaning for the widow and virgin of VIII.80: Saint Clotilde (born 475, Lyons) was Queen of the Franks, married to King Clovis, whose death made her a widow - she died at Tours in 548; and Saint Paula of Nicomedia was a consecrated virgin, tortured before being sent to Constantinople for beheading in 273.
>
> Saint Joan of Arc was born on January Sixth 1412, at a small village near the province of Lorraine - this could be the reference in X.50, however not the House of Lorraine prophecy since that implies nobility. The natal coincidence with the date of the Capitol riot could prove esoterically significant.
>
> In a vision at age thirteen, Joan was encouraged by entities she described as very beautiful, including the Archangel Michael, to drive the English from her country, then conduct the Dauphin to Reims for his coronation. The story has been adapted for film from the silent era, a compelling tale of visionary faith merging with militaristic nationalism, progressing towards a tragic conclusion. The Maid of Orleans, clad in armor as the standard-bearer for French Victory, became a prisoner of the English, attempting to break her as a symbol of the Faith that had defeated them. After being burned alive, such extreme efforts were taken to ensure no relic would survive for veneration, that an executioner expressed fear of his own damnation.
> Lady honored by force of terror
> This line in I.94 coupled with the New Mars concept suggests the ironic fiery cataclysm, in its timely recalling of Saint Joan suffering her horrific mortal fate, would in a sardonic fashion honor the manner of her death.
>
> *
>
> 'Lovely
> Lethal
> Metal
> Maid'
>
> ...'Made her look a little like
> A milit'ry man'
>
> [comb-and-paper, speeded up:]
>
> 'Wore -
> Men's
> Clo-thing'
>
> 'Lovely Lethal,
> Lovely Lethal
>
> MAID...
>
> - Of
> Orleans!'

On Tuesday, May 30, 2023 at 1:18:08 PM UTC-7, Curtis Eagal wrote:
> On Monday, May 29, 2023 at 4:56:40 PM UTC-7, Curtis Eagal wrote:
> > On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 7:03:28 PM UTC-7, geoff wrote:
> > > On 28/05/2023 12:13 am, Famous Amos wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, March 25, 2023 at 3:29:25 PM UTC-4, Curtis Eagal wrote:
> > > >> Bob Eubanks recently recalled how manager Brian Epstein limited the famous group's earning potential by insisting the maximum price for a ticket to a Beatles' concert would be seven dollars. Also there was nothing else for fans to purchase, since attempts to relitigate an unfavorable merchandising deal ruined the production-distribution chain, and the band members were sickened to learn how much income they had lost by that source.
> > > >>
> > > >> There was a harrowing incident when they toured Manila: a public relations nightmare ensued when they were cast as national villains for not attending a state function televised live; the group conferring decided Epstein was ultimately responsible for the scheduling debacle and ensuing ordeal, in a collective terse expletive.
> > > >>
> > > >> *
> > > >>
> > > >> Tornadoes Of 24 March Attributable To Bologna (IX.13)
> > > >>
> > > >> From 4 March 2023:
> > > >>
> > > >> https://groups.google.com/g/alt.prophecies.nostradamus/c/w360JNUDgjU/m/bSo9J79wAQAJ
> > > >>
> > > >> << Two of Modena truculent for Bologna,
> > > >> Set discovered through the fire of Buzancais
> > > >>
> > > >> The interpretation should be focused on hagiology, rather than geography, since timing is thusly frequently obscured.
> > > >>
> > > >> Buzancais was known for a food riot in 1847, with half-starved peasants intercepting grain carts, ultimately suppressed by three rioters being guillotined, after a local elite retaliating with gunfire being beaten to death by the mob caused the remainder to cower. Instead the date of 9 January is inferred via feast for Saint Honorius of Buzancais (d. 1250), a cattle merchant who financially assisted young girls, but was ultimately killed by thieves he had reprimanded.
> > > >>
> > > >> January Ninth 2023 was the day about 1200 insurrectionists were arrested in Brasilia, however the fire in IX.13 may have been supplied by an X1.9-class solar flare from an active sunspot (AR3184) facing Earth that day, causing radio blackouts for parts of South America; the same sunspot was responsible for an X1.2-class solar flare 5 January 2023 (day of the funeral for Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI) - an X2 solar flare is four times more powerful than an M5 flare.
> > > >>
> > > >> Line 3 employs a subtle trick for the 'Two of Modena': the town's patron is Saint Geminiano (312-397), whose name suggests the Gemini twins; although the citizens of Modena overwhelmingly wanted Geminiano for their bishop, he felt unworthy and fled - he had to be found and persuaded. Renowned as an exorcist, Geminiano performed this service successfully for the daughter of Emperor Jovian. In Modena on his 31 January feast there is a special Mass, and his crypt is opened to public view. When Attila the Hun threatened to invade Modena in 452, Geminiano was invoked for protection, and a thick fog conveniently blanketed the city so it was safely bypassed. January 31 2023 was the gap-day between the Three Holy Hierarchs including Basil the Great of 30 January (V.83, VI.78), and the predominantly German thunderstorm with two tornadoes on 1 February 2023. Thus the harsh (or truculent) storm razing a pine forest in northern Germany was indicated as precursor for a later event associated with a Bologna date. >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Tornadoes in the southern US on 24 March 2023 have caused about two dozen fatalities; hagiological research had been done designating Saint John del Bastone with a 24 March feast and association with Bologna for the IX.13 allusion.
> > > >>
> > > >> https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/25/weather/us-severe-storms-saturday/index.html
> > > >>
> > > >> Two episodes of cyclonic activity derived as dual subjects, in different places at different times, makes the fulfillment dramatic.
> > > >>
> > > >> https://tech.hindustantimes.com/tech/news/sun-hurls-out-cme-towards-earth-g1-class-geomagnetic-storm-to-hit-soonuntitled-story-71679283288194..html
> > > >>
> > > >> The open-ended astrological hints for the cataclysmic onset in Geneva appear to coalesce for late March 2023; the Saturnin reign and cycles from I.54 line 2 have transpired, and the hagiology cannot be easily re-evaluated, but several quatrains have presented recent fulfillments suggesting imminent inevitability.
> > > >>
> > > >> There are two close sustained trines that could be used for transforming into a Grand Trine with the Vertex (V.18): Ceres with Pluto, leading to the 9:40 pm CEST general time daily, without much potential for the proper dynamics; and Saturn with Mars, which could provide the Sword element for IX.44, after the 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET Saturnin Grand Trine with solar proximity for the Golden factor.
> > > >>
> > > >> The Saturn-Mars-Vertex Grand Trine for Geneva recurs daily in late March 2023 at a time that also brings Venus into conjunction with the East Point. The Cupbearer falsifies as VI.89 says, until the Chalice is tried with the activating conditions.
> > > >>
> > > >> From V.66 the time after the 21 March 2023 New Moon was indicated, implying a limit at the Half Moon 29 March 4:31 am CEST.
> > > >>
> > > >> A pivotal aspect is Mercury conjoining Jupiter as the striking of the High-Born from II.92 28 March 2023 8:42 am CEST - this provides a rival conjunction diminishing the established claim Venus has on the recurring Grand Trine.
> > > >>
> > > >> Looking back, the prior lunar conjunct was with Ouranos 25 March 2023 12:51 am CET, as VI.70 expresses the noise and light surpassing the Heavens, occurring before the next celestial body is reached.
> > > >>
> > > >> And the prior lunar aspect was a square with Neptune 28 March 2023 3:39 am CEST, for the perplexity between Corinth and Ephesus in III.3.
> > > >>
> > > >> The spot occupied by the rapidly-shifting Vertex to form the Grand Trine with Saturn and Mars is about two degrees into Scorpio, fulfilling the final line of V.42 by suggesting a point 'under the Balance,' or beneath the Libran constellation, bringing the Grand Trine together as combined points.
> > > >>
> > > >> For 28 March 2023 using Geneva coordinates and CEST:
> > > >>
> > > >> 3:39 am - Neptune lunar square (III.3);
> > > >>
> > > >> 8:42 am - Mercury-Jupiter conjunct, Jupiter as High-Born of II.92;
> > > >>
> > > >> 10:00 am - Saturnin Grand Trine with Mars and the Vertex - Venus debased at the East Point, upstaged by the Mercury-Jupiter conjunction, critical time -
> > > >>
> > > >> << 28 March 2023 10 am CEST / 4 am EDT / 1 am PDT >>;
> > > >>
> > > >> 10:02 am - Ceres lunar square (ends III.3 condition);
> > > >>
> > > >> 3:19 pm - Mars lunar conjunct - 'The New Mars for vengeance and remorse' (I.94);
> > > >>
> > > >> Mercury proceeds to make its next planetary conjunction with Vesta 30 March 2023 4:03 pm CEST, corresponding with the X.6 line -
> > > >>
> > > >> 'Vesta - sepulchral extinguishing fire to appear'
> > > >>
> > > >> For the Lady honored through force of terror in I.94, there is Blessed Agnes of Chatillon with feast on 28 March, and an additional memorial on 29 March in the Cisterian order; Agnes served as sub-prioress in the monastery of Beaupre, Belgium, circa 1200. She was a visionary with a particular devotion to the Eucharist, falling into ecstasy frequently after partaking Communion. The extension into the adjacent day with the extra memorial could be what is inferred from the 'New Mars' lunar conjunct date of 28 March 2023.
> > > >>
> > > >> The Saturn trine with Mars that is foundational for the Chalice officially occurs 30 March 2023 8:15 pm CEST, a date with plausibly relevant hagiology.
> > > >>
> > > >> Saint Secundus of Asti has the 30 March feast, a Roman soldier of the Patrician class, baptized as a Christian in Milan; when it was discovered he gave a Christian burial to a martyr he fled to Asti, but was ultimately found, tortured and beheaded circa 119. Milan is in the Lombard region for V.42 and VI.16.
> > > >>
> > > >> The first bishop of Civitas Silvanectium in Gaul was Saint Regulus (died 260), also having a 30 March feast (Gaul to tremble in X.58).
> > > >>
> > > >> Another memorial on 30 March is for a group of martyrs in Greece circa 300 with Saint Domninus and others, including one named Victor (VI.70)..
> > > >
> > > > King Jom Un is top of the line
> > > > Putin is a genious and a friend of Mine
> > > >
> > > > That woman is a whack-job I neva met her
> > > > The Sowdee Prince is a man I prefer
> > > >
> > > > I can do what I want with the dockyoumints
> > > > I unproven all actions of the Sowdee Prince!!!!
> > > >
> > > > Genious!! I am the Masta Of Windmills'!!!!!
> > > Is Curtis Eagal and Famous Amos in fact the same person ? Curious, as
> > > threads from Curtis mostly consist of him replying to his own bizarre
> > > rants. And FA similarly, but with a little interaction between the 'two'.
> > >
> > > geoff
> > I am not replying to myself, but demonstrating that although the major event is imminent the sequence had to be observed and analyzed, which is far too complex a notion to be conveyed in a single post, as if I knew everything at the outset, or remade my message every time - this is a refinement of something determined to be inevitable, drawing on the logic of a long yet unreported track record. The modern attention span is definitely diminishing, but the relevant sequence started 2 February 2023 with the all-day Venusian Grand Trine on feast of Saint Joan de Lestonnac, as solution for part of X.17, which was set at the Juno-Venus-Node conjunct of 21 March 2023 at the New Moon. These correlations with the astrology are specific to 2023, even if they are too subtle and cryptic to be communicated as anything but nonsense by the average person. I've had people say it's like Chinese to them. If this were common knowledge I would not feel obligated to provide the information. There have been numerous occasions where the conjectures have resulted in definite fulfillments, but since these have not been reported in media there is sustained yet baseless resistance to acknowledging the continuing effect of known prophecies being genuine into the current era, just as any theory regarding The Beatles would be culturally preferable to admitting they fed society back the story of Jesus without it being recognized..
> >
> > It is not as if I believe fulfillment can convince anyone anymore, if that were the case it would have been with the exact date foretold for the Columbia shuttle disaster 16 months early, or the date for the Floyd death more recently, which was also pinpointed, in that case as a trigger for widespread anger, before it occurred.
> >
> > The Beatles labored ingeniously on a pop-culture version of the Christian story, only to have their fans project any other dark and sinister things onto their work, and regard inherently obvious solutions as some bizarre invasive idea, while consistent with all their remarks from interviews. Everything they created was like a piece of a puzzle, just like with Nostradamus: except while they regressively built a Remembrance of the Christian story, the French seer was encoding something like the Akashic records.
> >
> > In the first few bars of "Lady Madonna" with the piano mimicking Fats Domino from "Badpenny Blues," there is the same theme as in "Back In The USSR":
> >
> > 'When He -
> > Was Thirteen'
> >
> > In the middle of the USSR solo, the guitar is played as if to emphatically convey,
> >
> > '...He - Left - Home -
> > At - Thir-teen...'
> >
> > The oddly bent note opening the White Album also sounds remarkably like,
> >
> > 'TWELVE'
> >
> > The musical dream was for the subconscious, built into all the hooks and riffs, which is so consciously enjoyable the tendency is not to look past that pleasure.
> >
> > * Lovely Lethal Metal Maid *
> >
> > The conjunction of Vesta and Ouranos takes place about twenty-two minutes after the pair drops beneath the Ecliptic (30 May 2023 7:33 pm CEST), thereby aligning with the remark from V.65 that the lady on burning coals will no longer be in view, having recently set by the projected schedule.
> >
> > Des principaux de l'affaire caches
> > Et dame en braise plus ne sera en vue
> >
> > With the principals of the affair hidden
> > And the lady on burning coals will no longer be in view
> >
> > The principal players in the 'Saturnin Affair' are either conceptual (Vertex, Fortune, Ascendant, South Node) or beneath the Ecliptic (Saturn and Neptune), except for Venus herself; there is nothing special about the lunar appearance for being mid-way through Libra, waxing from a Half Moon. The theme of V.65 is that the Higher Powers allow the sudden terror, with the signs expressed subtly towards an overtly innocuous situation, gradually angered into withdrawing assistance that might otherwise be provided. While V.66 focused on the 20 April 2023 solar eclipse in line 4, the previous line may have shifted without fanfare to the recent Half Moon 27 May 2023.
> >
> > Since 30 May is feast for Saint Joan of Arc, who was burned alive on that day in 1431, the references to a lady engulfed by flames in V.65 and VI.19 could work in tandem, except that a saint should probably not want to put Innocents to the fire, even if that was how their own martyrdom manifested. The 8 May 2023 4:48 pm CEST Vesta engulfment by Fortune identifying the Candle configuration as the True Flame, for later reiteration using the Vertex, could explain VI.19 without Saint Joan directly.
> >
> > Because the Vesta-Ouranos coupling is part of the populous grouping in Taurus, and their merging is synchronized with the appearance of the Venusian-Neptunian Chalice, that could explain the betrayal originating from the Great Urn as the Taurean constellation in X.50, also inhabited by the Node, Jupiter, and Mercury.
> >
> > Saint Maximus of Trier was born near Poitiers, and is depicted with a bear, for the 29 May feast, which could figure in line 3 of VIII.52 -
> >
> > Ongle a Poitiers saintes ailes ruiner
> >
> > Claw at Poitiers, holy saints to ruin
> >
> > A Lombard connection with 30 May for V.42 exists via feast for Saint Anastasius II, who converted from the heresy of Arianism, which disputed the divinity of Christ by a Trinitarian comparison with the Creator-Father presumptive character.
> >
> > Upon conversion, Anastasius was appointed Bishop of Pavia, Lombardy in 668, remaining so until his death in 680.
> >
> > While Geneva's Midheaven version of the Candle dual trine with Saturn and the South Node does not have an ominous Grand Trine 30 May 2023 3:22 pm CEST, when the configuration is consummated by the Saturn-Midheaven trine about twelve minutes later (3:34 pm CEST), the chart elements appears conspicuously orchestrated, with several independent conditions temporally coalescing:
> >
> > Pallas in Leo lunar sextile at 11 degrees 45 minutes respectively;
> >
> > Solar Grand Trine with Fortune and the East Point - this is a very tight triangular form at the 8-degree point in the Air signs, with the East Point substituting for the nearby Ascendant as the pattern with Fortune is slipping out of phase for the Venusian false rapport.
> >
> > This brief Solar Chalice at the conclusion of the Upright Candleflame configuration, synchronized with the Pallas lunar aspect, in context could fulfill the line from IV.58 about the burning Sun to be swallowed, considering the Venusian-Neptunian Chalice during the subsequent Vertex iteration of the Candle.
> >
> > Saints Joan of Arc and Anastasius seemed featured for 30 May 2023; 31 May is feast for the Visitation, which appears skipped.
> >
> > Saint Reverianus with 1 June feast was bishop of Autun, missionary to Gaul circa 273 by order of Emperor Aurelian he was beheaded, martyred with Saint Paulus and ten others; Gaul is to tremble in X.58.
> >
> > Also for 1 June are concurrent feasts for Saints Felinus and Gratia of Perugia (martyrs circa 250), and Saint Peter of Pisa (1355-1435) - this is an unanticipated possibility for 'Perugia at Pisa' to solve VII.5. The name 'Gratia' could be hinted by the Ile de Graye specific island theme of V.16..
> >
> > Again skipping a day, for 3 June there are two concurrent feasts that could be the meaning for the widow and virgin of VIII.80: Saint Clotilde (born 475, Lyons) was Queen of the Franks, married to King Clovis, whose death made her a widow - she died at Tours in 548; and Saint Paula of Nicomedia was a consecrated virgin, tortured before being sent to Constantinople for beheading in 273.
> >
> > Saint Joan of Arc was born on January Sixth 1412, at a small village near the province of Lorraine - this could be the reference in X.50, however not the House of Lorraine prophecy since that implies nobility. The natal coincidence with the date of the Capitol riot could prove esoterically significant.
> >
> > In a vision at age thirteen, Joan was encouraged by entities she described as very beautiful, including the Archangel Michael, to drive the English from her country, then conduct the Dauphin to Reims for his coronation. The story has been adapted for film from the silent era, a compelling tale of visionary faith merging with militaristic nationalism, progressing towards a tragic conclusion. The Maid of Orleans, clad in armor as the standard-bearer for French Victory, became a prisoner of the English, attempting to break her as a symbol of the Faith that had defeated them. After being burned alive, such extreme efforts were taken to ensure no relic would survive for veneration, that an executioner expressed fear of his own damnation.
> > Lady honored by force of terror
> > This line in I.94 coupled with the New Mars concept suggests the ironic fiery cataclysm, in its timely recalling of Saint Joan suffering her horrific mortal fate, would in a sardonic fashion honor the manner of her death.
> >
> > *
> >
> > 'Lovely
> > Lethal
> > Metal
> > Maid'
> >
> > ...'Made her look a little like
> > A milit'ry man'
> >
> > [comb-and-paper, speeded up:]
> >
> > 'Wore -
> > Men's
> > Clo-thing'
> >
> > 'Lovely Lethal,
> > Lovely Lethal
> >
> > MAID...
> >
> > - Of
> > Orleans!'
> The songs of Sgt Pepper corresponding to saints, building towards Christ as the Saint of Saints in the finale, was one of several subliminal tangents explored. John Lennon explained things were thrown in together chaotically to create each song as a unique entity: so the Liddell sisters seated on a sofa photographed by Carroll seems referenced in a line; the "Lovely Rita" concept dovetails with the persona of Saint Joan of Arc; there is a storybook parallel with Cinderella; and the predominant theme, emerging in a transmutation of the refrain, cleverly returns to the gospel material (in a manner now withheld).
>
> They insisted they were thinking of bananas writing "She's Leaving Home"; and the request to producer George Martin for "Being For The Benefit of Mister Kite" was to 'make it sound like an orange.'
>
> Saturnins Under The Balance For Venusian Candle & Chalice At Great Mercury
>
> Looking at the remainder of the the lunar course in Libra, presuming that constellation is the New Cupbearer in perplexity with Pisces as the current location for Neptune, and the Balance concept in V.42 is parallel, the observed celestial movements suggest new correlations with the prophecies.
>
> The invented term 'Saturnins' would now mean two successive Grand Trines where Saturn appears close to the Midheaven point.
>
> The 'Vertex celebration' of V.18 may be found in an aftermath triple conjunction, so not relevant at the cataclysmic onset.
>
> The Candle configuration could apply to the false rapport of the weak trine between Venus and Neptune; and the Chalice could be a simultaneous Pediment formation, requiring only an extra pivotal point.
>
> If there is no access to an astrology program to animate the Geneva charts with local specificity, there are online ephemeris sources that can be used to verify the placements of celestial points.
>
> astro.com/swisseph/ae/2000/ae_2023.pdf
>
> The listing for Thursday 2 February 2023 shows Venus at 7 degrees 20 minutes Pisces; the Moon moving from 2 degrees Cancer; and the South Node at 8.5 degrees Scorpio - and Mars uninvolved around 10.5 degrees Gemini. This is the Venusian Grand Trine on the feast of Saint Joan de Lestonnac, with Mars in Gemini not Cancer.
>
> Listing Tuesday 21 March shows the Sun entering Aries, with the following from Pisces for the New Moon; Venus at 5 degrees Taurus, with the Node at 6 degrees - placing Juno there can be done with an ephemeris for minor bodies (link below).
>
> On Friday 17 March the Saturn (1 degree Pisces) sextile Venus aspect (zero degrees Taurus) is evident in the listing, however the inclusion of the intrusive Vertex forming the Pediment (I.54) requires the Geneva location for that calculation.
>
> The Thursday 27 April Neptune lunar trine can be discerned (Neptune 26 degrees 37 minutes Pisces, the Moon 26 degrees 26 minutes Cancer); also Venus at 18 degrees Gemini sextile Chiron at 17 degrees Aries - however the Vertex and Fortune are again not available to demonstrate the Double Pediment effect implying the esoteric mixing stage; notice also New Mars is then in Cancer at 16 degrees 49 minutes.
>
> A resource for the minor bodies is -
>
> cafeastrology.com/asteroid-ephemeris2023.html
>
> There the location of Vesta could be verified, combined with the other source to confirm conjunction of 30 May 2023 with Ouranos.
>
> It also shows Pallas was around 11.5 degrees Cancer on 2 February 2023; and it gives the position of Juno on 21 March as 5 degrees 25 minutes Taurus, for the Venus-Node-Juno triple conjunct subtly featured in X.17.
>
> For 31 May 2023 using Geneva coordinates and CEST:
>
> 7:24 am - Grand Trine of the South Node with the Ascendant and Midheaven - the Moon about two-thirds through its Libra transit, with Saturn at 6 degrees 57 minutes Pisces and Midheaven nearby at 3 degrees 40 minutes in the same sign;
>
> 7:53 am - Vertex in dual trine with Neptune and Venus as false rapport of X.28 -
>
> Venus 24 degrees 49 minutes Cancer;
> Vertex 25 degrees 42 minutes Scorpio; and
> Neptune 27 degrees 26 minutes Pisces
>
> This could also be the actual Candle of VI.35, since unchanged Saturn in that subsequent case is also close to Midheaven, then about 11.5 degrees Pisces;
>
> The Venus-Vertex trine simultaneously forms a Pediment with Ceres at 25 degrees 44 minutes Virgo, perhaps offering the Chalice of VI.89: so Venus receives both ominous symbols at the same time -
>
> And Mercury is then precisely at the fifteen-degree zero-minute midpoint of the Taurus constellation, for the Great Mercury of X.79, and perhaps the High-Born of II.92 (!);
>
> 9:25 pm - Venus, Fortune and the Vertex in a triple conjunction around 25..4 degrees Cancer, as the 'vitrix' of V.18 celebrating the Sacrifice.
>
> A normal Venusian Grand Trine with Neptune and Midheaven occurs 1 June 2023 12:36 am CEST, spanning from 25.5 to 27.5 degrees in the Water signs, with the Moon still not yet out of Libra.
>
> It is doubtful the Saturnin configuration at 7:24 am is anything but a common device (Saturn near Midheaven as 'with gold' in IX.44) to focus on the 7:53 am conditions, so the critical time should be -
>
> << 31 May 2023 7:53 am CEST / 1:53 am EDT / 30 May 2023 10:53 pm PDT >>
>
> These shifting parameters reflect my own evolving level of understanding, and the timely nature of this endeavor has been explained.

On Wednesday, May 31, 2023 at 3:25:31 AM UTC-7, Curtis Eagal wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 30, 2023 at 1:18:08 PM UTC-7, Curtis Eagal wrote:
> > On Monday, May 29, 2023 at 4:56:40 PM UTC-7, Curtis Eagal wrote:
> > > On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 7:03:28 PM UTC-7, geoff wrote:
> > > > On 28/05/2023 12:13 am, Famous Amos wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday, March 25, 2023 at 3:29:25 PM UTC-4, Curtis Eagal wrote:
> > > > >> Bob Eubanks recently recalled how manager Brian Epstein limited the famous group's earning potential by insisting the maximum price for a ticket to a Beatles' concert would be seven dollars. Also there was nothing else for fans to purchase, since attempts to relitigate an unfavorable merchandising deal ruined the production-distribution chain, and the band members were sickened to learn how much income they had lost by that source.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> There was a harrowing incident when they toured Manila: a public relations nightmare ensued when they were cast as national villains for not attending a state function televised live; the group conferring decided Epstein was ultimately responsible for the scheduling debacle and ensuing ordeal, in a collective terse expletive.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> *
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Tornadoes Of 24 March Attributable To Bologna (IX.13)
> > > > >>
> > > > >> From 4 March 2023:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> https://groups.google.com/g/alt.prophecies.nostradamus/c/w360JNUDgjU/m/bSo9J79wAQAJ
> > > > >>
> > > > >> << Two of Modena truculent for Bologna,
> > > > >> Set discovered through the fire of Buzancais
> > > > >>
> > > > >> The interpretation should be focused on hagiology, rather than geography, since timing is thusly frequently obscured.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Buzancais was known for a food riot in 1847, with half-starved peasants intercepting grain carts, ultimately suppressed by three rioters being guillotined, after a local elite retaliating with gunfire being beaten to death by the mob caused the remainder to cower. Instead the date of 9 January is inferred via feast for Saint Honorius of Buzancais (d. 1250), a cattle merchant who financially assisted young girls, but was ultimately killed by thieves he had reprimanded.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> January Ninth 2023 was the day about 1200 insurrectionists were arrested in Brasilia, however the fire in IX.13 may have been supplied by an X1.9-class solar flare from an active sunspot (AR3184) facing Earth that day, causing radio blackouts for parts of South America; the same sunspot was responsible for an X1.2-class solar flare 5 January 2023 (day of the funeral for Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI) - an X2 solar flare is four times more powerful than an M5 flare.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Line 3 employs a subtle trick for the 'Two of Modena': the town's patron is Saint Geminiano (312-397), whose name suggests the Gemini twins; although the citizens of Modena overwhelmingly wanted Geminiano for their bishop, he felt unworthy and fled - he had to be found and persuaded. Renowned as an exorcist, Geminiano performed this service successfully for the daughter of Emperor Jovian. In Modena on his 31 January feast there is a special Mass, and his crypt is opened to public view. When Attila the Hun threatened to invade Modena in 452, Geminiano was invoked for protection, and a thick fog conveniently blanketed the city so it was safely bypassed. January 31 2023 was the gap-day between the Three Holy Hierarchs including Basil the Great of 30 January (V.83, VI.78), and the predominantly German thunderstorm with two tornadoes on 1 February 2023. Thus the harsh (or truculent) storm razing a pine forest in northern Germany was indicated as precursor for a later event associated with a Bologna date. >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Tornadoes in the southern US on 24 March 2023 have caused about two dozen fatalities; hagiological research had been done designating Saint John del Bastone with a 24 March feast and association with Bologna for the IX.13 allusion.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/25/weather/us-severe-storms-saturday/index.html
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Two episodes of cyclonic activity derived as dual subjects, in different places at different times, makes the fulfillment dramatic.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> https://tech.hindustantimes.com/tech/news/sun-hurls-out-cme-towards-earth-g1-class-geomagnetic-storm-to-hit-soonuntitled-story-71679283288194.html
> > > > >>
> > > > >> The open-ended astrological hints for the cataclysmic onset in Geneva appear to coalesce for late March 2023; the Saturnin reign and cycles from I.54 line 2 have transpired, and the hagiology cannot be easily re-evaluated, but several quatrains have presented recent fulfillments suggesting imminent inevitability.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> There are two close sustained trines that could be used for transforming into a Grand Trine with the Vertex (V.18): Ceres with Pluto, leading to the 9:40 pm CEST general time daily, without much potential for the proper dynamics; and Saturn with Mars, which could provide the Sword element for IX.44, after the 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET Saturnin Grand Trine with solar proximity for the Golden factor.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> The Saturn-Mars-Vertex Grand Trine for Geneva recurs daily in late March 2023 at a time that also brings Venus into conjunction with the East Point. The Cupbearer falsifies as VI.89 says, until the Chalice is tried with the activating conditions.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> From V.66 the time after the 21 March 2023 New Moon was indicated, implying a limit at the Half Moon 29 March 4:31 am CEST.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> A pivotal aspect is Mercury conjoining Jupiter as the striking of the High-Born from II.92 28 March 2023 8:42 am CEST - this provides a rival conjunction diminishing the established claim Venus has on the recurring Grand Trine.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Looking back, the prior lunar conjunct was with Ouranos 25 March 2023 12:51 am CET, as VI.70 expresses the noise and light surpassing the Heavens, occurring before the next celestial body is reached.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> And the prior lunar aspect was a square with Neptune 28 March 2023 3:39 am CEST, for the perplexity between Corinth and Ephesus in III.3.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> The spot occupied by the rapidly-shifting Vertex to form the Grand Trine with Saturn and Mars is about two degrees into Scorpio, fulfilling the final line of V.42 by suggesting a point 'under the Balance,' or beneath the Libran constellation, bringing the Grand Trine together as combined points.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> For 28 March 2023 using Geneva coordinates and CEST:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> 3:39 am - Neptune lunar square (III.3);
> > > > >>
> > > > >> 8:42 am - Mercury-Jupiter conjunct, Jupiter as High-Born of II.92;
> > > > >>
> > > > >> 10:00 am - Saturnin Grand Trine with Mars and the Vertex - Venus debased at the East Point, upstaged by the Mercury-Jupiter conjunction, critical time -
> > > > >>
> > > > >> << 28 March 2023 10 am CEST / 4 am EDT / 1 am PDT >>;
> > > > >>
> > > > >> 10:02 am - Ceres lunar square (ends III.3 condition);
> > > > >>
> > > > >> 3:19 pm - Mars lunar conjunct - 'The New Mars for vengeance and remorse' (I.94);
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Mercury proceeds to make its next planetary conjunction with Vesta 30 March 2023 4:03 pm CEST, corresponding with the X.6 line -
> > > > >>
> > > > >> 'Vesta - sepulchral extinguishing fire to appear'
> > > > >>
> > > > >> For the Lady honored through force of terror in I.94, there is Blessed Agnes of Chatillon with feast on 28 March, and an additional memorial on 29 March in the Cisterian order; Agnes served as sub-prioress in the monastery of Beaupre, Belgium, circa 1200. She was a visionary with a particular devotion to the Eucharist, falling into ecstasy frequently after partaking Communion. The extension into the adjacent day with the extra memorial could be what is inferred from the 'New Mars' lunar conjunct date of 28 March 2023.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> The Saturn trine with Mars that is foundational for the Chalice officially occurs 30 March 2023 8:15 pm CEST, a date with plausibly relevant hagiology.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Saint Secundus of Asti has the 30 March feast, a Roman soldier of the Patrician class, baptized as a Christian in Milan; when it was discovered he gave a Christian burial to a martyr he fled to Asti, but was ultimately found, tortured and beheaded circa 119. Milan is in the Lombard region for V.42 and VI.16.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> The first bishop of Civitas Silvanectium in Gaul was Saint Regulus (died 260), also having a 30 March feast (Gaul to tremble in X.58).
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Another memorial on 30 March is for a group of martyrs in Greece circa 300 with Saint Domninus and others, including one named Victor (VI.70).
> > > > >
> > > > > King Jom Un is top of the line
> > > > > Putin is a genious and a friend of Mine
> > > > >
> > > > > That woman is a whack-job I neva met her
> > > > > The Sowdee Prince is a man I prefer
> > > > >
> > > > > I can do what I want with the dockyoumints
> > > > > I unproven all actions of the Sowdee Prince!!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Genious!! I am the Masta Of Windmills'!!!!!
> > > > Is Curtis Eagal and Famous Amos in fact the same person ? Curious, as
> > > > threads from Curtis mostly consist of him replying to his own bizarre
> > > > rants. And FA similarly, but with a little interaction between the 'two'.
> > > >
> > > > geoff
> > > I am not replying to myself, but demonstrating that although the major event is imminent the sequence had to be observed and analyzed, which is far too complex a notion to be conveyed in a single post, as if I knew everything at the outset, or remade my message every time - this is a refinement of something determined to be inevitable, drawing on the logic of a long yet unreported track record. The modern attention span is definitely diminishing, but the relevant sequence started 2 February 2023 with the all-day Venusian Grand Trine on feast of Saint Joan de Lestonnac, as solution for part of X.17, which was set at the Juno-Venus-Node conjunct of 21 March 2023 at the New Moon. These correlations with the astrology are specific to 2023, even if they are too subtle and cryptic to be communicated as anything but nonsense by the average person. I've had people say it's like Chinese to them. If this were common knowledge I would not feel obligated to provide the information. There have been numerous occasions where the conjectures have resulted in definite fulfillments, but since these have not been reported in media there is sustained yet baseless resistance to acknowledging the continuing effect of known prophecies being genuine into the current era, just as any theory regarding The Beatles would be culturally preferable to admitting they fed society back the story of Jesus without it being recognized.
> > >
> > > It is not as if I believe fulfillment can convince anyone anymore, if that were the case it would have been with the exact date foretold for the Columbia shuttle disaster 16 months early, or the date for the Floyd death more recently, which was also pinpointed, in that case as a trigger for widespread anger, before it occurred.
> > >
> > > The Beatles labored ingeniously on a pop-culture version of the Christian story, only to have their fans project any other dark and sinister things onto their work, and regard inherently obvious solutions as some bizarre invasive idea, while consistent with all their remarks from interviews. Everything they created was like a piece of a puzzle, just like with Nostradamus: except while they regressively built a Remembrance of the Christian story, the French seer was encoding something like the Akashic records.
> > >
> > > In the first few bars of "Lady Madonna" with the piano mimicking Fats Domino from "Badpenny Blues," there is the same theme as in "Back In The USSR":
> > >
> > > 'When He -
> > > Was Thirteen'
> > >
> > > In the middle of the USSR solo, the guitar is played as if to emphatically convey,
> > >
> > > '...He - Left - Home -
> > > At - Thir-teen...'
> > >
> > > The oddly bent note opening the White Album also sounds remarkably like,
> > >
> > > 'TWELVE'
> > >
> > > The musical dream was for the subconscious, built into all the hooks and riffs, which is so consciously enjoyable the tendency is not to look past that pleasure.
> > >
> > > * Lovely Lethal Metal Maid *
> > >
> > > The conjunction of Vesta and Ouranos takes place about twenty-two minutes after the pair drops beneath the Ecliptic (30 May 2023 7:33 pm CEST), thereby aligning with the remark from V.65 that the lady on burning coals will no longer be in view, having recently set by the projected schedule.
> > >
> > > Des principaux de l'affaire caches
> > > Et dame en braise plus ne sera en vue
> > >
> > > With the principals of the affair hidden
> > > And the lady on burning coals will no longer be in view
> > >
> > > The principal players in the 'Saturnin Affair' are either conceptual (Vertex, Fortune, Ascendant, South Node) or beneath the Ecliptic (Saturn and Neptune), except for Venus herself; there is nothing special about the lunar appearance for being mid-way through Libra, waxing from a Half Moon. The theme of V.65 is that the Higher Powers allow the sudden terror, with the signs expressed subtly towards an overtly innocuous situation, gradually angered into withdrawing assistance that might otherwise be provided. While V.66 focused on the 20 April 2023 solar eclipse in line 4, the previous line may have shifted without fanfare to the recent Half Moon 27 May 2023.
> > >
> > > Since 30 May is feast for Saint Joan of Arc, who was burned alive on that day in 1431, the references to a lady engulfed by flames in V.65 and VI.19 could work in tandem, except that a saint should probably not want to put Innocents to the fire, even if that was how their own martyrdom manifested. The 8 May 2023 4:48 pm CEST Vesta engulfment by Fortune identifying the Candle configuration as the True Flame, for later reiteration using the Vertex, could explain VI.19 without Saint Joan directly.
> > >
> > > Because the Vesta-Ouranos coupling is part of the populous grouping in Taurus, and their merging is synchronized with the appearance of the Venusian-Neptunian Chalice, that could explain the betrayal originating from the Great Urn as the Taurean constellation in X.50, also inhabited by the Node, Jupiter, and Mercury.
> > >
> > > Saint Maximus of Trier was born near Poitiers, and is depicted with a bear, for the 29 May feast, which could figure in line 3 of VIII.52 -
> > >
> > > Ongle a Poitiers saintes ailes ruiner
> > >
> > > Claw at Poitiers, holy saints to ruin
> > >
> > > A Lombard connection with 30 May for V.42 exists via feast for Saint Anastasius II, who converted from the heresy of Arianism, which disputed the divinity of Christ by a Trinitarian comparison with the Creator-Father presumptive character.
> > >
> > > Upon conversion, Anastasius was appointed Bishop of Pavia, Lombardy in 668, remaining so until his death in 680.
> > >
> > > While Geneva's Midheaven version of the Candle dual trine with Saturn and the South Node does not have an ominous Grand Trine 30 May 2023 3:22 pm CEST, when the configuration is consummated by the Saturn-Midheaven trine about twelve minutes later (3:34 pm CEST), the chart elements appears conspicuously orchestrated, with several independent conditions temporally coalescing:
> > >
> > > Pallas in Leo lunar sextile at 11 degrees 45 minutes respectively;
> > >
> > > Solar Grand Trine with Fortune and the East Point - this is a very tight triangular form at the 8-degree point in the Air signs, with the East Point substituting for the nearby Ascendant as the pattern with Fortune is slipping out of phase for the Venusian false rapport.
> > >
> > > This brief Solar Chalice at the conclusion of the Upright Candleflame configuration, synchronized with the Pallas lunar aspect, in context could fulfill the line from IV.58 about the burning Sun to be swallowed, considering the Venusian-Neptunian Chalice during the subsequent Vertex iteration of the Candle.
> > >
> > > Saints Joan of Arc and Anastasius seemed featured for 30 May 2023; 31 May is feast for the Visitation, which appears skipped.
> > >
> > > Saint Reverianus with 1 June feast was bishop of Autun, missionary to Gaul circa 273 by order of Emperor Aurelian he was beheaded, martyred with Saint Paulus and ten others; Gaul is to tremble in X.58.
> > >
> > > Also for 1 June are concurrent feasts for Saints Felinus and Gratia of Perugia (martyrs circa 250), and Saint Peter of Pisa (1355-1435) - this is an unanticipated possibility for 'Perugia at Pisa' to solve VII.5. The name 'Gratia' could be hinted by the Ile de Graye specific island theme of V.16.
> > >
> > > Again skipping a day, for 3 June there are two concurrent feasts that could be the meaning for the widow and virgin of VIII.80: Saint Clotilde (born 475, Lyons) was Queen of the Franks, married to King Clovis, whose death made her a widow - she died at Tours in 548; and Saint Paula of Nicomedia was a consecrated virgin, tortured before being sent to Constantinople for beheading in 273.
> > >
> > > Saint Joan of Arc was born on January Sixth 1412, at a small village near the province of Lorraine - this could be the reference in X.50, however not the House of Lorraine prophecy since that implies nobility. The natal coincidence with the date of the Capitol riot could prove esoterically significant.
> > >
> > > In a vision at age thirteen, Joan was encouraged by entities she described as very beautiful, including the Archangel Michael, to drive the English from her country, then conduct the Dauphin to Reims for his coronation. The story has been adapted for film from the silent era, a compelling tale of visionary faith merging with militaristic nationalism, progressing towards a tragic conclusion. The Maid of Orleans, clad in armor as the standard-bearer for French Victory, became a prisoner of the English, attempting to break her as a symbol of the Faith that had defeated them. After being burned alive, such extreme efforts were taken to ensure no relic would survive for veneration, that an executioner expressed fear of his own damnation.
> > > Lady honored by force of terror
> > > This line in I.94 coupled with the New Mars concept suggests the ironic fiery cataclysm, in its timely recalling of Saint Joan suffering her horrific mortal fate, would in a sardonic fashion honor the manner of her death.
> > >
> > > *
> > >
> > > 'Lovely
> > > Lethal
> > > Metal
> > > Maid'
> > >
> > > ...'Made her look a little like
> > > A milit'ry man'
> > >
> > > [comb-and-paper, speeded up:]
> > >
> > > 'Wore -
> > > Men's
> > > Clo-thing'
> > >
> > > 'Lovely Lethal,
> > > Lovely Lethal
> > >
> > > MAID...
> > >
> > > - Of
> > > Orleans!'
> > The songs of Sgt Pepper corresponding to saints, building towards Christ as the Saint of Saints in the finale, was one of several subliminal tangents explored. John Lennon explained things were thrown in together chaotically to create each song as a unique entity: so the Liddell sisters seated on a sofa photographed by Carroll seems referenced in a line; the "Lovely Rita" concept dovetails with the persona of Saint Joan of Arc; there is a storybook parallel with Cinderella; and the predominant theme, emerging in a transmutation of the refrain, cleverly returns to the gospel material (in a manner now withheld).
> >
> > They insisted they were thinking of bananas writing "She's Leaving Home"; and the request to producer George Martin for "Being For The Benefit of Mister Kite" was to 'make it sound like an orange.'
> >
> > Saturnins Under The Balance For Venusian Candle & Chalice At Great Mercury
> >
> > Looking at the remainder of the the lunar course in Libra, presuming that constellation is the New Cupbearer in perplexity with Pisces as the current location for Neptune, and the Balance concept in V.42 is parallel, the observed celestial movements suggest new correlations with the prophecies.
> >
> > The invented term 'Saturnins' would now mean two successive Grand Trines where Saturn appears close to the Midheaven point.
> >
> > The 'Vertex celebration' of V.18 may be found in an aftermath triple conjunction, so not relevant at the cataclysmic onset.
> >
> > The Candle configuration could apply to the false rapport of the weak trine between Venus and Neptune; and the Chalice could be a simultaneous Pediment formation, requiring only an extra pivotal point.
> >
> > If there is no access to an astrology program to animate the Geneva charts with local specificity, there are online ephemeris sources that can be used to verify the placements of celestial points.
> >
> > astro.com/swisseph/ae/2000/ae_2023.pdf
> >
> > The listing for Thursday 2 February 2023 shows Venus at 7 degrees 20 minutes Pisces; the Moon moving from 2 degrees Cancer; and the South Node at 8.5 degrees Scorpio - and Mars uninvolved around 10.5 degrees Gemini. This is the Venusian Grand Trine on the feast of Saint Joan de Lestonnac, with Mars in Gemini not Cancer.
> >
> > Listing Tuesday 21 March shows the Sun entering Aries, with the following from Pisces for the New Moon; Venus at 5 degrees Taurus, with the Node at 6 degrees - placing Juno there can be done with an ephemeris for minor bodies (link below).
> >
> > On Friday 17 March the Saturn (1 degree Pisces) sextile Venus aspect (zero degrees Taurus) is evident in the listing, however the inclusion of the intrusive Vertex forming the Pediment (I.54) requires the Geneva location for that calculation.
> >
> > The Thursday 27 April Neptune lunar trine can be discerned (Neptune 26 degrees 37 minutes Pisces, the Moon 26 degrees 26 minutes Cancer); also Venus at 18 degrees Gemini sextile Chiron at 17 degrees Aries - however the Vertex and Fortune are again not available to demonstrate the Double Pediment effect implying the esoteric mixing stage; notice also New Mars is then in Cancer at 16 degrees 49 minutes.
> >
> > A resource for the minor bodies is -
> >
> > cafeastrology.com/asteroid-ephemeris2023.html
> >
> > There the location of Vesta could be verified, combined with the other source to confirm conjunction of 30 May 2023 with Ouranos.
> >
> > It also shows Pallas was around 11.5 degrees Cancer on 2 February 2023; and it gives the position of Juno on 21 March as 5 degrees 25 minutes Taurus, for the Venus-Node-Juno triple conjunct subtly featured in X.17.
> >
> > For 31 May 2023 using Geneva coordinates and CEST:
> >
> > 7:24 am - Grand Trine of the South Node with the Ascendant and Midheaven - the Moon about two-thirds through its Libra transit, with Saturn at 6 degrees 57 minutes Pisces and Midheaven nearby at 3 degrees 40 minutes in the same sign;
> >
> > 7:53 am - Vertex in dual trine with Neptune and Venus as false rapport of X.28 -
> >
> > Venus 24 degrees 49 minutes Cancer;
> > Vertex 25 degrees 42 minutes Scorpio; and
> > Neptune 27 degrees 26 minutes Pisces
> >
> > This could also be the actual Candle of VI.35, since unchanged Saturn in that subsequent case is also close to Midheaven, then about 11.5 degrees Pisces;
> >
> > The Venus-Vertex trine simultaneously forms a Pediment with Ceres at 25 degrees 44 minutes Virgo, perhaps offering the Chalice of VI.89: so Venus receives both ominous symbols at the same time -
> >
> > And Mercury is then precisely at the fifteen-degree zero-minute midpoint of the Taurus constellation, for the Great Mercury of X.79, and perhaps the High-Born of II.92 (!);
> >
> > 9:25 pm - Venus, Fortune and the Vertex in a triple conjunction around 25.4 degrees Cancer, as the 'vitrix' of V.18 celebrating the Sacrifice.
> >
> > A normal Venusian Grand Trine with Neptune and Midheaven occurs 1 June 2023 12:36 am CEST, spanning from 25.5 to 27.5 degrees in the Water signs, with the Moon still not yet out of Libra.
> >
> > It is doubtful the Saturnin configuration at 7:24 am is anything but a common device (Saturn near Midheaven as 'with gold' in IX.44) to focus on the 7:53 am conditions, so the critical time should be -
> >
> > << 31 May 2023 7:53 am CEST / 1:53 am EDT / 30 May 2023 10:53 pm PDT >>
> >
> > These shifting parameters reflect my own evolving level of understanding, and the timely nature of this endeavor has been explained.
> Any comments about lunatic ranting should be reflected back on the political frontrunner who advises trashing the Constitution, going into default, pardoning insurrectionists, declassifying documents by internal thought without alerting operatives, terminating government authorities who might conduct investigations on himself, etc. From what I can tell the tendency is to seek authoritarian rule from someone who is actually ranting like a lunatic or mobster: my esotericism is based in logic and personal experience, not tribalism and propaganda, so it is off-brand to both sides of the current culture wars.
>
> There is a major theoretical test upcoming on 3 June 2023: the ephemeris linked would show the Moon at 27 degrees 4 minutes Scorpio; Venus at 27 degrees 32 minutes Cancer; and Neptune at 27 degrees 29 minutes Pisces. Essentially it repeats the 2 February 2023 Venusian Lunar Grand Trine, with a notable substitution.
>
> Scorpio Cupbearer Perplexity With Neptune Debases Venusian Rapport [3 June 2023 2:42 am CEST]
>
> Reading 'Under the Balance' from V.42 as intending Scorpio instead of Libra as New Cupbearer offers an intriguing possibility: the Scorpio Moon will form a sustained Grand Trine with Venus and Neptune during that interval, ominously reminiscent of the 2 February Venusian Lunar Grand Trine with the South Node.
>
> While Scorpio is technically a Water sign, the other two represent Fish and Crab which live in the sea, while the scorpion is a land creature whose relevant fluid is blood.
>
> The Neptune lunar trine occurs with Venus offset by five minutes of a degree, which is negligible, yet could establish the false rapport of X.28.
>
> For 3 June 2023 using Geneva coordinates and CEST:
>
> 2:04 am - Saturn rises locally at Ascendant;
>
> 2:42 am - Neptune lunar trine (27 degrees 28 minutes) within Grand Trine including Venus (27 degrees 33 minutes Cancer) - this would be the critical time -
>
> << 3 June 2023 2:42 am CEST / 2 June 2023 8:42 pm EDT, 5:42 pm PDT >>;
>
> 2:46 am - Neptune at Ascendant;
>
> 2:50 am - Venus lunar trine (within Grand Trine with Neptune), coinciding with the Vertex falling at the Descendant.
>
> Saturn would have been the last celestial body to rise, with Neptune not quite at the Ascendant, which could explain the Saturnins term, although not the 'd'or' golden remark from IX.44.
>
> Mercury is then in an alignment, set to conjoin Ouranos 4 June 2023 9:38 pm CEST (20 degrees 24 minutes Taurus), then Vesta 6 June 2023 11:55 pm CEST. This is not the dynamic situation expected for the Great Mercury of X.79, just as the Vertex participation by merely descending timely seems anticlimactic for V.18.
>
> The Neptune-Moon perplexity within the Venusian Grand Trine (i.e., Chalice or Cup) is an overtly stated feature consistent with the Cupbearer theory: the Scorpio Moon bears the Cup because it partially composes it, without its being in Scorpio the triangular configuration with Venus and Neptune could not occur.
>
> The Neptune lunar trine has the Corinth-Ephesus perplexity with the circumstance of Venus being ostensibly included, yet also creates a perfect aspect that conspicuously excludes Venus only slightly.
>
> There are many other Grand Trine configurations during the Scorpio lunar transit, however the theme of a Venusian Lunar Grand Trine is being significantly repeated, substituting Neptune for the South Node from the 2 February 2023 circumstance.

On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 9:51:05 AM UTC-7, Curtis Eagal wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 31, 2023 at 3:25:31 AM UTC-7, Curtis Eagal wrote:
> > On Tuesday, May 30, 2023 at 1:18:08 PM UTC-7, Curtis Eagal wrote:
> > > On Monday, May 29, 2023 at 4:56:40 PM UTC-7, Curtis Eagal wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 7:03:28 PM UTC-7, geoff wrote:
> > > > > On 28/05/2023 12:13 am, Famous Amos wrote:
> > > > > > On Saturday, March 25, 2023 at 3:29:25 PM UTC-4, Curtis Eagal wrote:
> > > > > >> Bob Eubanks recently recalled how manager Brian Epstein limited the famous group's earning potential by insisting the maximum price for a ticket to a Beatles' concert would be seven dollars. Also there was nothing else for fans to purchase, since attempts to relitigate an unfavorable merchandising deal ruined the production-distribution chain, and the band members were sickened to learn how much income they had lost by that source.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> There was a harrowing incident when they toured Manila: a public relations nightmare ensued when they were cast as national villains for not attending a state function televised live; the group conferring decided Epstein was ultimately responsible for the scheduling debacle and ensuing ordeal, in a collective terse expletive.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> *
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Tornadoes Of 24 March Attributable To Bologna (IX.13)
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> From 4 March 2023:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> https://groups.google.com/g/alt.prophecies.nostradamus/c/w360JNUDgjU/m/bSo9J79wAQAJ
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> << Two of Modena truculent for Bologna,
> > > > > >> Set discovered through the fire of Buzancais
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> The interpretation should be focused on hagiology, rather than geography, since timing is thusly frequently obscured.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Buzancais was known for a food riot in 1847, with half-starved peasants intercepting grain carts, ultimately suppressed by three rioters being guillotined, after a local elite retaliating with gunfire being beaten to death by the mob caused the remainder to cower. Instead the date of 9 January is inferred via feast for Saint Honorius of Buzancais (d. 1250), a cattle merchant who financially assisted young girls, but was ultimately killed by thieves he had reprimanded.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> January Ninth 2023 was the day about 1200 insurrectionists were arrested in Brasilia, however the fire in IX.13 may have been supplied by an X1.9-class solar flare from an active sunspot (AR3184) facing Earth that day, causing radio blackouts for parts of South America; the same sunspot was responsible for an X1.2-class solar flare 5 January 2023 (day of the funeral for Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI) - an X2 solar flare is four times more powerful than an M5 flare.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Line 3 employs a subtle trick for the 'Two of Modena': the town's patron is Saint Geminiano (312-397), whose name suggests the Gemini twins; although the citizens of Modena overwhelmingly wanted Geminiano for their bishop, he felt unworthy and fled - he had to be found and persuaded. Renowned as an exorcist, Geminiano performed this service successfully for the daughter of Emperor Jovian. In Modena on his 31 January feast there is a special Mass, and his crypt is opened to public view. When Attila the Hun threatened to invade Modena in 452, Geminiano was invoked for protection, and a thick fog conveniently blanketed the city so it was safely bypassed. January 31 2023 was the gap-day between the Three Holy Hierarchs including Basil the Great of 30 January (V.83, VI.78), and the predominantly German thunderstorm with two tornadoes on 1 February 2023. Thus the harsh (or truculent) storm razing a pine forest in northern Germany was indicated as precursor for a later event associated with a Bologna date. >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Tornadoes in the southern US on 24 March 2023 have caused about two dozen fatalities; hagiological research had been done designating Saint John del Bastone with a 24 March feast and association with Bologna for the IX.13 allusion.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/25/weather/us-severe-storms-saturday/index.html
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Two episodes of cyclonic activity derived as dual subjects, in different places at different times, makes the fulfillment dramatic.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> https://tech.hindustantimes.com/tech/news/sun-hurls-out-cme-towards-earth-g1-class-geomagnetic-storm-to-hit-soonuntitled-story-71679283288194.html
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> The open-ended astrological hints for the cataclysmic onset in Geneva appear to coalesce for late March 2023; the Saturnin reign and cycles from I.54 line 2 have transpired, and the hagiology cannot be easily re-evaluated, but several quatrains have presented recent fulfillments suggesting imminent inevitability.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> There are two close sustained trines that could be used for transforming into a Grand Trine with the Vertex (V.18): Ceres with Pluto, leading to the 9:40 pm CEST general time daily, without much potential for the proper dynamics; and Saturn with Mars, which could provide the Sword element for IX.44, after the 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET Saturnin Grand Trine with solar proximity for the Golden factor.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> The Saturn-Mars-Vertex Grand Trine for Geneva recurs daily in late March 2023 at a time that also brings Venus into conjunction with the East Point. The Cupbearer falsifies as VI.89 says, until the Chalice is tried with the activating conditions.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> From V.66 the time after the 21 March 2023 New Moon was indicated, implying a limit at the Half Moon 29 March 4:31 am CEST.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> A pivotal aspect is Mercury conjoining Jupiter as the striking of the High-Born from II.92 28 March 2023 8:42 am CEST - this provides a rival conjunction diminishing the established claim Venus has on the recurring Grand Trine.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Looking back, the prior lunar conjunct was with Ouranos 25 March 2023 12:51 am CET, as VI.70 expresses the noise and light surpassing the Heavens, occurring before the next celestial body is reached.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> And the prior lunar aspect was a square with Neptune 28 March 2023 3:39 am CEST, for the perplexity between Corinth and Ephesus in III.3.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> The spot occupied by the rapidly-shifting Vertex to form the Grand Trine with Saturn and Mars is about two degrees into Scorpio, fulfilling the final line of V.42 by suggesting a point 'under the Balance,' or beneath the Libran constellation, bringing the Grand Trine together as combined points.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> For 28 March 2023 using Geneva coordinates and CEST:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> 3:39 am - Neptune lunar square (III.3);
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> 8:42 am - Mercury-Jupiter conjunct, Jupiter as High-Born of II..92;
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> 10:00 am - Saturnin Grand Trine with Mars and the Vertex - Venus debased at the East Point, upstaged by the Mercury-Jupiter conjunction, critical time -
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> << 28 March 2023 10 am CEST / 4 am EDT / 1 am PDT >>;
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> 10:02 am - Ceres lunar square (ends III.3 condition);
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> 3:19 pm - Mars lunar conjunct - 'The New Mars for vengeance and remorse' (I.94);
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Mercury proceeds to make its next planetary conjunction with Vesta 30 March 2023 4:03 pm CEST, corresponding with the X.6 line -
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> 'Vesta - sepulchral extinguishing fire to appear'
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> For the Lady honored through force of terror in I.94, there is Blessed Agnes of Chatillon with feast on 28 March, and an additional memorial on 29 March in the Cisterian order; Agnes served as sub-prioress in the monastery of Beaupre, Belgium, circa 1200. She was a visionary with a particular devotion to the Eucharist, falling into ecstasy frequently after partaking Communion. The extension into the adjacent day with the extra memorial could be what is inferred from the 'New Mars' lunar conjunct date of 28 March 2023.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> The Saturn trine with Mars that is foundational for the Chalice officially occurs 30 March 2023 8:15 pm CEST, a date with plausibly relevant hagiology.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Saint Secundus of Asti has the 30 March feast, a Roman soldier of the Patrician class, baptized as a Christian in Milan; when it was discovered he gave a Christian burial to a martyr he fled to Asti, but was ultimately found, tortured and beheaded circa 119. Milan is in the Lombard region for V.42 and VI.16.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> The first bishop of Civitas Silvanectium in Gaul was Saint Regulus (died 260), also having a 30 March feast (Gaul to tremble in X.58).
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Another memorial on 30 March is for a group of martyrs in Greece circa 300 with Saint Domninus and others, including one named Victor (VI..70).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > King Jom Un is top of the line
> > > > > > Putin is a genious and a friend of Mine
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That woman is a whack-job I neva met her
> > > > > > The Sowdee Prince is a man I prefer
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I can do what I want with the dockyoumints
> > > > > > I unproven all actions of the Sowdee Prince!!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Genious!! I am the Masta Of Windmills'!!!!!
> > > > > Is Curtis Eagal and Famous Amos in fact the same person ? Curious, as
> > > > > threads from Curtis mostly consist of him replying to his own bizarre
> > > > > rants. And FA similarly, but with a little interaction between the 'two'.
> > > > >
> > > > > geoff
> > > > I am not replying to myself, but demonstrating that although the major event is imminent the sequence had to be observed and analyzed, which is far too complex a notion to be conveyed in a single post, as if I knew everything at the outset, or remade my message every time - this is a refinement of something determined to be inevitable, drawing on the logic of a long yet unreported track record. The modern attention span is definitely diminishing, but the relevant sequence started 2 February 2023 with the all-day Venusian Grand Trine on feast of Saint Joan de Lestonnac, as solution for part of X.17, which was set at the Juno-Venus-Node conjunct of 21 March 2023 at the New Moon. These correlations with the astrology are specific to 2023, even if they are too subtle and cryptic to be communicated as anything but nonsense by the average person. I've had people say it's like Chinese to them. If this were common knowledge I would not feel obligated to provide the information. There have been numerous occasions where the conjectures have resulted in definite fulfillments, but since these have not been reported in media there is sustained yet baseless resistance to acknowledging the continuing effect of known prophecies being genuine into the current era, just as any theory regarding The Beatles would be culturally preferable to admitting they fed society back the story of Jesus without it being recognized.
> > > >
> > > > It is not as if I believe fulfillment can convince anyone anymore, if that were the case it would have been with the exact date foretold for the Columbia shuttle disaster 16 months early, or the date for the Floyd death more recently, which was also pinpointed, in that case as a trigger for widespread anger, before it occurred.
> > > >
> > > > The Beatles labored ingeniously on a pop-culture version of the Christian story, only to have their fans project any other dark and sinister things onto their work, and regard inherently obvious solutions as some bizarre invasive idea, while consistent with all their remarks from interviews. Everything they created was like a piece of a puzzle, just like with Nostradamus: except while they regressively built a Remembrance of the Christian story, the French seer was encoding something like the Akashic records.
> > > >
> > > > In the first few bars of "Lady Madonna" with the piano mimicking Fats Domino from "Badpenny Blues," there is the same theme as in "Back In The USSR":
> > > >
> > > > 'When He -
> > > > Was Thirteen'
> > > >
> > > > In the middle of the USSR solo, the guitar is played as if to emphatically convey,
> > > >
> > > > '...He - Left - Home -
> > > > At - Thir-teen...'
> > > >
> > > > The oddly bent note opening the White Album also sounds remarkably like,
> > > >
> > > > 'TWELVE'
> > > >
> > > > The musical dream was for the subconscious, built into all the hooks and riffs, which is so consciously enjoyable the tendency is not to look past that pleasure.
> > > >
> > > > * Lovely Lethal Metal Maid *
> > > >
> > > > The conjunction of Vesta and Ouranos takes place about twenty-two minutes after the pair drops beneath the Ecliptic (30 May 2023 7:33 pm CEST), thereby aligning with the remark from V.65 that the lady on burning coals will no longer be in view, having recently set by the projected schedule.
> > > >
> > > > Des principaux de l'affaire caches
> > > > Et dame en braise plus ne sera en vue
> > > >
> > > > With the principals of the affair hidden
> > > > And the lady on burning coals will no longer be in view
> > > >
> > > > The principal players in the 'Saturnin Affair' are either conceptual (Vertex, Fortune, Ascendant, South Node) or beneath the Ecliptic (Saturn and Neptune), except for Venus herself; there is nothing special about the lunar appearance for being mid-way through Libra, waxing from a Half Moon. The theme of V.65 is that the Higher Powers allow the sudden terror, with the signs expressed subtly towards an overtly innocuous situation, gradually angered into withdrawing assistance that might otherwise be provided. While V.66 focused on the 20 April 2023 solar eclipse in line 4, the previous line may have shifted without fanfare to the recent Half Moon 27 May 2023.
> > > >
> > > > Since 30 May is feast for Saint Joan of Arc, who was burned alive on that day in 1431, the references to a lady engulfed by flames in V.65 and VI.19 could work in tandem, except that a saint should probably not want to put Innocents to the fire, even if that was how their own martyrdom manifested. The 8 May 2023 4:48 pm CEST Vesta engulfment by Fortune identifying the Candle configuration as the True Flame, for later reiteration using the Vertex, could explain VI.19 without Saint Joan directly.
> > > >
> > > > Because the Vesta-Ouranos coupling is part of the populous grouping in Taurus, and their merging is synchronized with the appearance of the Venusian-Neptunian Chalice, that could explain the betrayal originating from the Great Urn as the Taurean constellation in X.50, also inhabited by the Node, Jupiter, and Mercury.
> > > >
> > > > Saint Maximus of Trier was born near Poitiers, and is depicted with a bear, for the 29 May feast, which could figure in line 3 of VIII.52 -
> > > >
> > > > Ongle a Poitiers saintes ailes ruiner
> > > >
> > > > Claw at Poitiers, holy saints to ruin
> > > >
> > > > A Lombard connection with 30 May for V.42 exists via feast for Saint Anastasius II, who converted from the heresy of Arianism, which disputed the divinity of Christ by a Trinitarian comparison with the Creator-Father presumptive character.
> > > >
> > > > Upon conversion, Anastasius was appointed Bishop of Pavia, Lombardy in 668, remaining so until his death in 680.
> > > >
> > > > While Geneva's Midheaven version of the Candle dual trine with Saturn and the South Node does not have an ominous Grand Trine 30 May 2023 3:22 pm CEST, when the configuration is consummated by the Saturn-Midheaven trine about twelve minutes later (3:34 pm CEST), the chart elements appears conspicuously orchestrated, with several independent conditions temporally coalescing:
> > > >
> > > > Pallas in Leo lunar sextile at 11 degrees 45 minutes respectively;
> > > >
> > > > Solar Grand Trine with Fortune and the East Point - this is a very tight triangular form at the 8-degree point in the Air signs, with the East Point substituting for the nearby Ascendant as the pattern with Fortune is slipping out of phase for the Venusian false rapport.
> > > >
> > > > This brief Solar Chalice at the conclusion of the Upright Candleflame configuration, synchronized with the Pallas lunar aspect, in context could fulfill the line from IV.58 about the burning Sun to be swallowed, considering the Venusian-Neptunian Chalice during the subsequent Vertex iteration of the Candle.
> > > >
> > > > Saints Joan of Arc and Anastasius seemed featured for 30 May 2023; 31 May is feast for the Visitation, which appears skipped.
> > > >
> > > > Saint Reverianus with 1 June feast was bishop of Autun, missionary to Gaul circa 273 by order of Emperor Aurelian he was beheaded, martyred with Saint Paulus and ten others; Gaul is to tremble in X.58.
> > > >
> > > > Also for 1 June are concurrent feasts for Saints Felinus and Gratia of Perugia (martyrs circa 250), and Saint Peter of Pisa (1355-1435) - this is an unanticipated possibility for 'Perugia at Pisa' to solve VII.5. The name 'Gratia' could be hinted by the Ile de Graye specific island theme of V.16.
> > > >
> > > > Again skipping a day, for 3 June there are two concurrent feasts that could be the meaning for the widow and virgin of VIII.80: Saint Clotilde (born 475, Lyons) was Queen of the Franks, married to King Clovis, whose death made her a widow - she died at Tours in 548; and Saint Paula of Nicomedia was a consecrated virgin, tortured before being sent to Constantinople for beheading in 273.
> > > >
> > > > Saint Joan of Arc was born on January Sixth 1412, at a small village near the province of Lorraine - this could be the reference in X.50, however not the House of Lorraine prophecy since that implies nobility. The natal coincidence with the date of the Capitol riot could prove esoterically significant.
> > > >
> > > > In a vision at age thirteen, Joan was encouraged by entities she described as very beautiful, including the Archangel Michael, to drive the English from her country, then conduct the Dauphin to Reims for his coronation. The story has been adapted for film from the silent era, a compelling tale of visionary faith merging with militaristic nationalism, progressing towards a tragic conclusion. The Maid of Orleans, clad in armor as the standard-bearer for French Victory, became a prisoner of the English, attempting to break her as a symbol of the Faith that had defeated them. After being burned alive, such extreme efforts were taken to ensure no relic would survive for veneration, that an executioner expressed fear of his own damnation.
> > > > Lady honored by force of terror
> > > > This line in I.94 coupled with the New Mars concept suggests the ironic fiery cataclysm, in its timely recalling of Saint Joan suffering her horrific mortal fate, would in a sardonic fashion honor the manner of her death.
> > > >
> > > > *
> > > >
> > > > 'Lovely
> > > > Lethal
> > > > Metal
> > > > Maid'
> > > >
> > > > ...'Made her look a little like
> > > > A milit'ry man'
> > > >
> > > > [comb-and-paper, speeded up:]
> > > >
> > > > 'Wore -
> > > > Men's
> > > > Clo-thing'
> > > >
> > > > 'Lovely Lethal,
> > > > Lovely Lethal
> > > >
> > > > MAID...
> > > >
> > > > - Of
> > > > Orleans!'
> > > The songs of Sgt Pepper corresponding to saints, building towards Christ as the Saint of Saints in the finale, was one of several subliminal tangents explored. John Lennon explained things were thrown in together chaotically to create each song as a unique entity: so the Liddell sisters seated on a sofa photographed by Carroll seems referenced in a line; the "Lovely Rita" concept dovetails with the persona of Saint Joan of Arc; there is a storybook parallel with Cinderella; and the predominant theme, emerging in a transmutation of the refrain, cleverly returns to the gospel material (in a manner now withheld).
> > >
> > > They insisted they were thinking of bananas writing "She's Leaving Home"; and the request to producer George Martin for "Being For The Benefit of Mister Kite" was to 'make it sound like an orange.'
> > >
> > > Saturnins Under The Balance For Venusian Candle & Chalice At Great Mercury
> > >
> > > Looking at the remainder of the the lunar course in Libra, presuming that constellation is the New Cupbearer in perplexity with Pisces as the current location for Neptune, and the Balance concept in V.42 is parallel, the observed celestial movements suggest new correlations with the prophecies..
> > >
> > > The invented term 'Saturnins' would now mean two successive Grand Trines where Saturn appears close to the Midheaven point.
> > >
> > > The 'Vertex celebration' of V.18 may be found in an aftermath triple conjunction, so not relevant at the cataclysmic onset.
> > >
> > > The Candle configuration could apply to the false rapport of the weak trine between Venus and Neptune; and the Chalice could be a simultaneous Pediment formation, requiring only an extra pivotal point.
> > >
> > > If there is no access to an astrology program to animate the Geneva charts with local specificity, there are online ephemeris sources that can be used to verify the placements of celestial points.
> > >
> > > astro.com/swisseph/ae/2000/ae_2023.pdf
> > >
> > > The listing for Thursday 2 February 2023 shows Venus at 7 degrees 20 minutes Pisces; the Moon moving from 2 degrees Cancer; and the South Node at 8.5 degrees Scorpio - and Mars uninvolved around 10.5 degrees Gemini. This is the Venusian Grand Trine on the feast of Saint Joan de Lestonnac, with Mars in Gemini not Cancer.
> > >
> > > Listing Tuesday 21 March shows the Sun entering Aries, with the following from Pisces for the New Moon; Venus at 5 degrees Taurus, with the Node at 6 degrees - placing Juno there can be done with an ephemeris for minor bodies (link below).
> > >
> > > On Friday 17 March the Saturn (1 degree Pisces) sextile Venus aspect (zero degrees Taurus) is evident in the listing, however the inclusion of the intrusive Vertex forming the Pediment (I.54) requires the Geneva location for that calculation.
> > >
> > > The Thursday 27 April Neptune lunar trine can be discerned (Neptune 26 degrees 37 minutes Pisces, the Moon 26 degrees 26 minutes Cancer); also Venus at 18 degrees Gemini sextile Chiron at 17 degrees Aries - however the Vertex and Fortune are again not available to demonstrate the Double Pediment effect implying the esoteric mixing stage; notice also New Mars is then in Cancer at 16 degrees 49 minutes.
> > >
> > > A resource for the minor bodies is -
> > >
> > > cafeastrology.com/asteroid-ephemeris2023.html
> > >
> > > There the location of Vesta could be verified, combined with the other source to confirm conjunction of 30 May 2023 with Ouranos.
> > >
> > > It also shows Pallas was around 11.5 degrees Cancer on 2 February 2023; and it gives the position of Juno on 21 March as 5 degrees 25 minutes Taurus, for the Venus-Node-Juno triple conjunct subtly featured in X.17.
> > >
> > > For 31 May 2023 using Geneva coordinates and CEST:
> > >
> > > 7:24 am - Grand Trine of the South Node with the Ascendant and Midheaven - the Moon about two-thirds through its Libra transit, with Saturn at 6 degrees 57 minutes Pisces and Midheaven nearby at 3 degrees 40 minutes in the same sign;
> > >
> > > 7:53 am - Vertex in dual trine with Neptune and Venus as false rapport of X.28 -
> > >
> > > Venus 24 degrees 49 minutes Cancer;
> > > Vertex 25 degrees 42 minutes Scorpio; and
> > > Neptune 27 degrees 26 minutes Pisces
> > >
> > > This could also be the actual Candle of VI.35, since unchanged Saturn in that subsequent case is also close to Midheaven, then about 11.5 degrees Pisces;
> > >
> > > The Venus-Vertex trine simultaneously forms a Pediment with Ceres at 25 degrees 44 minutes Virgo, perhaps offering the Chalice of VI.89: so Venus receives both ominous symbols at the same time -
> > >
> > > And Mercury is then precisely at the fifteen-degree zero-minute midpoint of the Taurus constellation, for the Great Mercury of X.79, and perhaps the High-Born of II.92 (!);
> > >
> > > 9:25 pm - Venus, Fortune and the Vertex in a triple conjunction around 25.4 degrees Cancer, as the 'vitrix' of V.18 celebrating the Sacrifice.
> > >
> > > A normal Venusian Grand Trine with Neptune and Midheaven occurs 1 June 2023 12:36 am CEST, spanning from 25.5 to 27.5 degrees in the Water signs, with the Moon still not yet out of Libra.
> > >
> > > It is doubtful the Saturnin configuration at 7:24 am is anything but a common device (Saturn near Midheaven as 'with gold' in IX.44) to focus on the 7:53 am conditions, so the critical time should be -
> > >
> > > << 31 May 2023 7:53 am CEST / 1:53 am EDT / 30 May 2023 10:53 pm PDT >>
> > >
> > > These shifting parameters reflect my own evolving level of understanding, and the timely nature of this endeavor has been explained.
> > Any comments about lunatic ranting should be reflected back on the political frontrunner who advises trashing the Constitution, going into default, pardoning insurrectionists, declassifying documents by internal thought without alerting operatives, terminating government authorities who might conduct investigations on himself, etc. From what I can tell the tendency is to seek authoritarian rule from someone who is actually ranting like a lunatic or mobster: my esotericism is based in logic and personal experience, not tribalism and propaganda, so it is off-brand to both sides of the current culture wars.
> >
> > There is a major theoretical test upcoming on 3 June 2023: the ephemeris linked would show the Moon at 27 degrees 4 minutes Scorpio; Venus at 27 degrees 32 minutes Cancer; and Neptune at 27 degrees 29 minutes Pisces. Essentially it repeats the 2 February 2023 Venusian Lunar Grand Trine, with a notable substitution.
> >
> > Scorpio Cupbearer Perplexity With Neptune Debases Venusian Rapport [3 June 2023 2:42 am CEST]
> >
> > Reading 'Under the Balance' from V.42 as intending Scorpio instead of Libra as New Cupbearer offers an intriguing possibility: the Scorpio Moon will form a sustained Grand Trine with Venus and Neptune during that interval, ominously reminiscent of the 2 February Venusian Lunar Grand Trine with the South Node.
> >
> > While Scorpio is technically a Water sign, the other two represent Fish and Crab which live in the sea, while the scorpion is a land creature whose relevant fluid is blood.
> >
> > The Neptune lunar trine occurs with Venus offset by five minutes of a degree, which is negligible, yet could establish the false rapport of X.28.
> >
> > For 3 June 2023 using Geneva coordinates and CEST:
> >
> > 2:04 am - Saturn rises locally at Ascendant;
> >
> > 2:42 am - Neptune lunar trine (27 degrees 28 minutes) within Grand Trine including Venus (27 degrees 33 minutes Cancer) - this would be the critical time -
> >
> > << 3 June 2023 2:42 am CEST / 2 June 2023 8:42 pm EDT, 5:42 pm PDT >>;
> >
> > 2:46 am - Neptune at Ascendant;
> >
> > 2:50 am - Venus lunar trine (within Grand Trine with Neptune), coinciding with the Vertex falling at the Descendant.
> >
> > Saturn would have been the last celestial body to rise, with Neptune not quite at the Ascendant, which could explain the Saturnins term, although not the 'd'or' golden remark from IX.44.
> >
> > Mercury is then in an alignment, set to conjoin Ouranos 4 June 2023 9:38 pm CEST (20 degrees 24 minutes Taurus), then Vesta 6 June 2023 11:55 pm CEST. This is not the dynamic situation expected for the Great Mercury of X.79, just as the Vertex participation by merely descending timely seems anticlimactic for V.18.
> >
> > The Neptune-Moon perplexity within the Venusian Grand Trine (i.e., Chalice or Cup) is an overtly stated feature consistent with the Cupbearer theory: the Scorpio Moon bears the Cup because it partially composes it, without its being in Scorpio the triangular configuration with Venus and Neptune could not occur.
> >
> > The Neptune lunar trine has the Corinth-Ephesus perplexity with the circumstance of Venus being ostensibly included, yet also creates a perfect aspect that conspicuously excludes Venus only slightly.
> >
> > There are many other Grand Trine configurations during the Scorpio lunar transit, however the theme of a Venusian Lunar Grand Trine is being significantly repeated, substituting Neptune for the South Node from the 2 February 2023 circumstance.
> John Lennon in 'Bring On The Lucie" sang
>
> "...You'd better bear this thought in mind:
> Your time is up,
> You'd better know it -
> But maybe you don't read The Signs"
>
> A false eschatology has emerged around the creation of Israel in 1948 ensuring salvation by quasi-scriptural Rapture invention, an inferior interpretation that would not allow for Remembrance of the Ascension as 'being caught up in the air with' Jesus, instead expecting a globally-visible recognizable floating Christ form that enables the professed faithful to levitate into the upper stratosphere. Lennon should have perceived the 1967 Six-Day War whereby Israel regained Jerusalem as the more pivotal event, whether he was aware of the Revelation correlation with Daniel's Seventy Weeks prophecy as coinciding with his declared multi-year schedule for the group. Harrison hinted the group had cast boulders into the waters, with the inevitable tidal wave level ripples yet to ensue.
>
> The earliest Apocalypse was a dream of Henoch, with human generations depicted by animals with symbolic overtones, canonical in a language older than Hebrew; its prophecies fulfilled included reference to the three sons of Constantine, proceeding into the Holocaust, whose aftermath features a group of lambs crying out without being comprehended by blind sheep; then one Ram opening its eyes to genuinely perceive grows a horn representing Faith, which all the faithless others attempt to break.
>
> The Beatles' Remembrance of Jesus has masterfully accomplished across various genres into tantalizing song entities, there is a sublime quality to how the precise messages are articulated within the instrumentally and vocally realized musicology, with a combination of solid theological foundation and modern mischievous whimsy. One example does not provide the entire picture, the aggregation gives a sense of proceeding to a succession of climaxes.
>
> When they received their MBE medals, George Harrison joked it could stand for "Mister Brian Epstein." Whatever his professional flaws in their management, Epstein believed in them when they needed that support, and facilitated the success that had eluded them. Yet the audition with George Martin was headed for rejection, until Harrison broke the ice by commenting on his tie.
>
> * Corinth & Ephesus In Perplexity Debases Venus In Their Mutual Rapport *
>
> The prophecy allows clarification before activation: the 2 February 2023 Venusian Lunar Grand Trine has a reprise 3 June 2023, substituting Neptune for the South Node; the 27 April 2023 1:40 am CEST Neptune lunar trine for Geneva suggested the mixing stage in the same Cupbearer with inclusion of New Mars, the chart implying three Pediments, two overlapping with Venus sextile Vertex (involving the Chiron-Fortune opposition), and Neptune-Juno-Moon. This is eschatology and prophetic interpretation on an unprecedented level, which infers some negative energy being infused for the Neptune lunar trine aspect, which is part of the 3 June 2023 Grand Trine.
>
> Resetting the hagiological references, 3 June has feasts for the widow and virgin of VIII.80, in Saints Clotilde and Paula, respectively; also for Saint Morand (died 1115), patron of wine-makers, for having sustained himself one Lent on a bunch of grapes.
>
> Saint Saturnina of Arras has a 4 June feast, as a likely fictional German virgin-martyr in Arras, France - and the patron of wine merchants. The name 'Saturnina' could be implied by the cryptic Saturnin term, indicating that day, despite the coincidence of Saturn having risen for the projected fateful Chalice debasement.
>
> Saint Austrebertus was Vienne bishop from 726 until his death in 742, with feast on 5 June.
>
> For 6 June, Blessed William Greenwood has an additional memorial to 4 May as a Carthusian martyr, arrested at the London Charterhouse for opposing policies of Henry VIII, starved to death 6 June 1537 at Newgate Prison.
>
> A plausible Lombardy V.42 reference candidate also has the 6 June feast: Saint Eustorgius II, bishop of Milan from 512; he spent heavily to ransom Christians abducted by barbarians, and died in 518 of natural causes.
>
> The solution for 'Saturne d'or' from IX.44 could be nothing to do with Midheaven, if meant to indicate a pre-cataclysmic condition for Geneva on the 3 June 2023 schedule.
>
> The daily recurrence of Saturn at the East Point has a quirk on the 3 June 2023 instance at 1:26 am CEST, since there will be a non-repeating dramatic opposition with Fortune:
>
> Saturn 7 degrees 1 minutes Pisces /
> East Point 7 degrees 5 minutes Pisces
> -opposed by-
> Fortune 6 degrees 3 minutes Virgo
>
> Perhaps the auspicious inference of Fortune is being rendered as the 'golden' influence for Saturn at that daily juncture, as ironic prelude to its fateful rising: this could also be a 'good omen' involving Fortune from II.66, prior to a city being besieged.
>
> The basic definition of perplexity is an intertwining, describing the interacting trio necessary for a Grand Trine, which is being called esoterically a Cup or Chalice.
>
> The Venusian Lunar trine of 2 February 2023 had Venus under 8 degrees Pisces, and the South Node near 8.5 degrees Taurus, so the Cancer Moon had its official trine aspect with Venus first.
>
> In the 3 June 2023 Venusian Lunar Trine, Venus loses the competition for lunar favor to Neptune by a mere five minutes of a degree -
>
> And to put a spotlight on the Neptunian victory, its primary Scorpio lunar trine coincides with Neptune reaching the East Point, as though it had crossed the finish line in a marathon. This is what seems to trigger the incident, with Saturn already risen, but Neptune arriving quickly on the horizon as an Ambassador of the Venusian Chalice.
>
> The Vertex at that point around 28 degrees Virgo also forms the Crest of a Pediment with Venus and the Moon, peaking around 2:38 am CEST.
>
> Venus, apparently recalling her glory in the 2 February 2023 case, is debased by being demoted to the secondary lunar trine in the Chalice of Perplexity, with her failure celebrated by the Vertex signifying downfall, also occurring in tandem with the ongoing Sacrifice in the wake of the cataclysmic onset.
>
> Venus as Mystery Babylon (demonstrated Friday 9 September 2022 at its lunar opposition) should be the High-Born figure of II.92, perhaps with the identifying word 'Harlot' missing as previously conjectured. The minor variations in location that determine the primary and secondary lunar trines within a Grand Trine configuration are not discernible except by obtaining numerical data, however this sequence has synchronized signs: Neptune meeting the East Point at its primary lunar trine; and the Vertex dropping at the Descendant for the secondary lunar trine with Venus.
>
> If the Great Mercury of X.79 means ascending for Geneva, that occurs 3 June 2023 4:38 am CEST, associated with trembling.
>
> The Saturnins enduring the worst should be the four minutes prior to Neptune rising, in the wake of cataclysmic onset, signifying a localized catastrophic phase.

On Saturday, June 3, 2023 at 9:13:52 AM UTC-7, Curtis Eagal wrote:
> On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 9:51:05 AM UTC-7, Curtis Eagal wrote:
> > On Wednesday, May 31, 2023 at 3:25:31 AM UTC-7, Curtis Eagal wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, May 30, 2023 at 1:18:08 PM UTC-7, Curtis Eagal wrote:
> > > > On Monday, May 29, 2023 at 4:56:40 PM UTC-7, Curtis Eagal wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 7:03:28 PM UTC-7, geoff wrote:
> > > > > > On 28/05/2023 12:13 am, Famous Amos wrote:
> > > > > > > On Saturday, March 25, 2023 at 3:29:25 PM UTC-4, Curtis Eagal wrote:
> > > > > > >> Bob Eubanks recently recalled how manager Brian Epstein limited the famous group's earning potential by insisting the maximum price for a ticket to a Beatles' concert would be seven dollars. Also there was nothing else for fans to purchase, since attempts to relitigate an unfavorable merchandising deal ruined the production-distribution chain, and the band members were sickened to learn how much income they had lost by that source.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> There was a harrowing incident when they toured Manila: a public relations nightmare ensued when they were cast as national villains for not attending a state function televised live; the group conferring decided Epstein was ultimately responsible for the scheduling debacle and ensuing ordeal, in a collective terse expletive.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> *
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Tornadoes Of 24 March Attributable To Bologna (IX.13)
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> From 4 March 2023:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> https://groups.google.com/g/alt.prophecies.nostradamus/c/w360JNUDgjU/m/bSo9J79wAQAJ
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> << Two of Modena truculent for Bologna,
> > > > > > >> Set discovered through the fire of Buzancais
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> The interpretation should be focused on hagiology, rather than geography, since timing is thusly frequently obscured.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Buzancais was known for a food riot in 1847, with half-starved peasants intercepting grain carts, ultimately suppressed by three rioters being guillotined, after a local elite retaliating with gunfire being beaten to death by the mob caused the remainder to cower. Instead the date of 9 January is inferred via feast for Saint Honorius of Buzancais (d. 1250), a cattle merchant who financially assisted young girls, but was ultimately killed by thieves he had reprimanded.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> January Ninth 2023 was the day about 1200 insurrectionists were arrested in Brasilia, however the fire in IX.13 may have been supplied by an X1.9-class solar flare from an active sunspot (AR3184) facing Earth that day, causing radio blackouts for parts of South America; the same sunspot was responsible for an X1.2-class solar flare 5 January 2023 (day of the funeral for Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI) - an X2 solar flare is four times more powerful than an M5 flare.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Line 3 employs a subtle trick for the 'Two of Modena': the town's patron is Saint Geminiano (312-397), whose name suggests the Gemini twins; although the citizens of Modena overwhelmingly wanted Geminiano for their bishop, he felt unworthy and fled - he had to be found and persuaded. Renowned as an exorcist, Geminiano performed this service successfully for the daughter of Emperor Jovian. In Modena on his 31 January feast there is a special Mass, and his crypt is opened to public view. When Attila the Hun threatened to invade Modena in 452, Geminiano was invoked for protection, and a thick fog conveniently blanketed the city so it was safely bypassed. January 31 2023 was the gap-day between the Three Holy Hierarchs including Basil the Great of 30 January (V.83, VI.78), and the predominantly German thunderstorm with two tornadoes on 1 February 2023. Thus the harsh (or truculent) storm razing a pine forest in northern Germany was indicated as precursor for a later event associated with a Bologna date. >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Tornadoes in the southern US on 24 March 2023 have caused about two dozen fatalities; hagiological research had been done designating Saint John del Bastone with a 24 March feast and association with Bologna for the IX.13 allusion.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/25/weather/us-severe-storms-saturday/index.html
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Two episodes of cyclonic activity derived as dual subjects, in different places at different times, makes the fulfillment dramatic.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> https://tech.hindustantimes.com/tech/news/sun-hurls-out-cme-towards-earth-g1-class-geomagnetic-storm-to-hit-soonuntitled-story-71679283288194.html
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> The open-ended astrological hints for the cataclysmic onset in Geneva appear to coalesce for late March 2023; the Saturnin reign and cycles from I.54 line 2 have transpired, and the hagiology cannot be easily re-evaluated, but several quatrains have presented recent fulfillments suggesting imminent inevitability.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> There are two close sustained trines that could be used for transforming into a Grand Trine with the Vertex (V.18): Ceres with Pluto, leading to the 9:40 pm CEST general time daily, without much potential for the proper dynamics; and Saturn with Mars, which could provide the Sword element for IX.44, after the 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET Saturnin Grand Trine with solar proximity for the Golden factor.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> The Saturn-Mars-Vertex Grand Trine for Geneva recurs daily in late March 2023 at a time that also brings Venus into conjunction with the East Point. The Cupbearer falsifies as VI.89 says, until the Chalice is tried with the activating conditions.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> From V.66 the time after the 21 March 2023 New Moon was indicated, implying a limit at the Half Moon 29 March 4:31 am CEST.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> A pivotal aspect is Mercury conjoining Jupiter as the striking of the High-Born from II.92 28 March 2023 8:42 am CEST - this provides a rival conjunction diminishing the established claim Venus has on the recurring Grand Trine.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Looking back, the prior lunar conjunct was with Ouranos 25 March 2023 12:51 am CET, as VI.70 expresses the noise and light surpassing the Heavens, occurring before the next celestial body is reached.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> And the prior lunar aspect was a square with Neptune 28 March 2023 3:39 am CEST, for the perplexity between Corinth and Ephesus in III.3.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> The spot occupied by the rapidly-shifting Vertex to form the Grand Trine with Saturn and Mars is about two degrees into Scorpio, fulfilling the final line of V.42 by suggesting a point 'under the Balance,' or beneath the Libran constellation, bringing the Grand Trine together as combined points.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> For 28 March 2023 using Geneva coordinates and CEST:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> 3:39 am - Neptune lunar square (III.3);
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> 8:42 am - Mercury-Jupiter conjunct, Jupiter as High-Born of II.92;
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> 10:00 am - Saturnin Grand Trine with Mars and the Vertex - Venus debased at the East Point, upstaged by the Mercury-Jupiter conjunction, critical time -
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> << 28 March 2023 10 am CEST / 4 am EDT / 1 am PDT >>;
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> 10:02 am - Ceres lunar square (ends III.3 condition);
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> 3:19 pm - Mars lunar conjunct - 'The New Mars for vengeance and remorse' (I.94);
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Mercury proceeds to make its next planetary conjunction with Vesta 30 March 2023 4:03 pm CEST, corresponding with the X.6 line -
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> 'Vesta - sepulchral extinguishing fire to appear'
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> For the Lady honored through force of terror in I.94, there is Blessed Agnes of Chatillon with feast on 28 March, and an additional memorial on 29 March in the Cisterian order; Agnes served as sub-prioress in the monastery of Beaupre, Belgium, circa 1200. She was a visionary with a particular devotion to the Eucharist, falling into ecstasy frequently after partaking Communion. The extension into the adjacent day with the extra memorial could be what is inferred from the 'New Mars' lunar conjunct date of 28 March 2023.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> The Saturn trine with Mars that is foundational for the Chalice officially occurs 30 March 2023 8:15 pm CEST, a date with plausibly relevant hagiology.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Saint Secundus of Asti has the 30 March feast, a Roman soldier of the Patrician class, baptized as a Christian in Milan; when it was discovered he gave a Christian burial to a martyr he fled to Asti, but was ultimately found, tortured and beheaded circa 119. Milan is in the Lombard region for V.42 and VI.16.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> The first bishop of Civitas Silvanectium in Gaul was Saint Regulus (died 260), also having a 30 March feast (Gaul to tremble in X.58).
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Another memorial on 30 March is for a group of martyrs in Greece circa 300 with Saint Domninus and others, including one named Victor (VI.70).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > King Jom Un is top of the line
> > > > > > > Putin is a genious and a friend of Mine
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > That woman is a whack-job I neva met her
> > > > > > > The Sowdee Prince is a man I prefer
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I can do what I want with the dockyoumints
> > > > > > > I unproven all actions of the Sowdee Prince!!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Genious!! I am the Masta Of Windmills'!!!!!
> > > > > > Is Curtis Eagal and Famous Amos in fact the same person ? Curious, as
> > > > > > threads from Curtis mostly consist of him replying to his own bizarre
> > > > > > rants. And FA similarly, but with a little interaction between the 'two'.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > geoff
> > > > > I am not replying to myself, but demonstrating that although the major event is imminent the sequence had to be observed and analyzed, which is far too complex a notion to be conveyed in a single post, as if I knew everything at the outset, or remade my message every time - this is a refinement of something determined to be inevitable, drawing on the logic of a long yet unreported track record. The modern attention span is definitely diminishing, but the relevant sequence started 2 February 2023 with the all-day Venusian Grand Trine on feast of Saint Joan de Lestonnac, as solution for part of X.17, which was set at the Juno-Venus-Node conjunct of 21 March 2023 at the New Moon. These correlations with the astrology are specific to 2023, even if they are too subtle and cryptic to be communicated as anything but nonsense by the average person. I've had people say it's like Chinese to them. If this were common knowledge I would not feel obligated to provide the information. There have been numerous occasions where the conjectures have resulted in definite fulfillments, but since these have not been reported in media there is sustained yet baseless resistance to acknowledging the continuing effect of known prophecies being genuine into the current era, just as any theory regarding The Beatles would be culturally preferable to admitting they fed society back the story of Jesus without it being recognized.
> > > > >
> > > > > It is not as if I believe fulfillment can convince anyone anymore, if that were the case it would have been with the exact date foretold for the Columbia shuttle disaster 16 months early, or the date for the Floyd death more recently, which was also pinpointed, in that case as a trigger for widespread anger, before it occurred.
> > > > >
> > > > > The Beatles labored ingeniously on a pop-culture version of the Christian story, only to have their fans project any other dark and sinister things onto their work, and regard inherently obvious solutions as some bizarre invasive idea, while consistent with all their remarks from interviews. Everything they created was like a piece of a puzzle, just like with Nostradamus: except while they regressively built a Remembrance of the Christian story, the French seer was encoding something like the Akashic records.
> > > > >
> > > > > In the first few bars of "Lady Madonna" with the piano mimicking Fats Domino from "Badpenny Blues," there is the same theme as in "Back In The USSR":
> > > > >
> > > > > 'When He -
> > > > > Was Thirteen'
> > > > >
> > > > > In the middle of the USSR solo, the guitar is played as if to emphatically convey,
> > > > >
> > > > > '...He - Left - Home -
> > > > > At - Thir-teen...'
> > > > >
> > > > > The oddly bent note opening the White Album also sounds remarkably like,
> > > > >
> > > > > 'TWELVE'
> > > > >
> > > > > The musical dream was for the subconscious, built into all the hooks and riffs, which is so consciously enjoyable the tendency is not to look past that pleasure.
> > > > >
> > > > > * Lovely Lethal Metal Maid *
> > > > >
> > > > > The conjunction of Vesta and Ouranos takes place about twenty-two minutes after the pair drops beneath the Ecliptic (30 May 2023 7:33 pm CEST), thereby aligning with the remark from V.65 that the lady on burning coals will no longer be in view, having recently set by the projected schedule..
> > > > >
> > > > > Des principaux de l'affaire caches
> > > > > Et dame en braise plus ne sera en vue
> > > > >
> > > > > With the principals of the affair hidden
> > > > > And the lady on burning coals will no longer be in view
> > > > >
> > > > > The principal players in the 'Saturnin Affair' are either conceptual (Vertex, Fortune, Ascendant, South Node) or beneath the Ecliptic (Saturn and Neptune), except for Venus herself; there is nothing special about the lunar appearance for being mid-way through Libra, waxing from a Half Moon.. The theme of V.65 is that the Higher Powers allow the sudden terror, with the signs expressed subtly towards an overtly innocuous situation, gradually angered into withdrawing assistance that might otherwise be provided. While V.66 focused on the 20 April 2023 solar eclipse in line 4, the previous line may have shifted without fanfare to the recent Half Moon 27 May 2023.
> > > > >
> > > > > Since 30 May is feast for Saint Joan of Arc, who was burned alive on that day in 1431, the references to a lady engulfed by flames in V.65 and VI.19 could work in tandem, except that a saint should probably not want to put Innocents to the fire, even if that was how their own martyrdom manifested. The 8 May 2023 4:48 pm CEST Vesta engulfment by Fortune identifying the Candle configuration as the True Flame, for later reiteration using the Vertex, could explain VI.19 without Saint Joan directly.
> > > > >
> > > > > Because the Vesta-Ouranos coupling is part of the populous grouping in Taurus, and their merging is synchronized with the appearance of the Venusian-Neptunian Chalice, that could explain the betrayal originating from the Great Urn as the Taurean constellation in X.50, also inhabited by the Node, Jupiter, and Mercury.
> > > > >
> > > > > Saint Maximus of Trier was born near Poitiers, and is depicted with a bear, for the 29 May feast, which could figure in line 3 of VIII.52 -
> > > > >
> > > > > Ongle a Poitiers saintes ailes ruiner
> > > > >
> > > > > Claw at Poitiers, holy saints to ruin
> > > > >
> > > > > A Lombard connection with 30 May for V.42 exists via feast for Saint Anastasius II, who converted from the heresy of Arianism, which disputed the divinity of Christ by a Trinitarian comparison with the Creator-Father presumptive character.
> > > > >
> > > > > Upon conversion, Anastasius was appointed Bishop of Pavia, Lombardy in 668, remaining so until his death in 680.
> > > > >
> > > > > While Geneva's Midheaven version of the Candle dual trine with Saturn and the South Node does not have an ominous Grand Trine 30 May 2023 3:22 pm CEST, when the configuration is consummated by the Saturn-Midheaven trine about twelve minutes later (3:34 pm CEST), the chart elements appears conspicuously orchestrated, with several independent conditions temporally coalescing:
> > > > >
> > > > > Pallas in Leo lunar sextile at 11 degrees 45 minutes respectively;
> > > > >
> > > > > Solar Grand Trine with Fortune and the East Point - this is a very tight triangular form at the 8-degree point in the Air signs, with the East Point substituting for the nearby Ascendant as the pattern with Fortune is slipping out of phase for the Venusian false rapport.
> > > > >
> > > > > This brief Solar Chalice at the conclusion of the Upright Candleflame configuration, synchronized with the Pallas lunar aspect, in context could fulfill the line from IV.58 about the burning Sun to be swallowed, considering the Venusian-Neptunian Chalice during the subsequent Vertex iteration of the Candle.
> > > > >
> > > > > Saints Joan of Arc and Anastasius seemed featured for 30 May 2023; 31 May is feast for the Visitation, which appears skipped.
> > > > >
> > > > > Saint Reverianus with 1 June feast was bishop of Autun, missionary to Gaul circa 273 by order of Emperor Aurelian he was beheaded, martyred with Saint Paulus and ten others; Gaul is to tremble in X.58.
> > > > >
> > > > > Also for 1 June are concurrent feasts for Saints Felinus and Gratia of Perugia (martyrs circa 250), and Saint Peter of Pisa (1355-1435) - this is an unanticipated possibility for 'Perugia at Pisa' to solve VII.5. The name 'Gratia' could be hinted by the Ile de Graye specific island theme of V.16.
> > > > >
> > > > > Again skipping a day, for 3 June there are two concurrent feasts that could be the meaning for the widow and virgin of VIII.80: Saint Clotilde (born 475, Lyons) was Queen of the Franks, married to King Clovis, whose death made her a widow - she died at Tours in 548; and Saint Paula of Nicomedia was a consecrated virgin, tortured before being sent to Constantinople for beheading in 273.
> > > > >
> > > > > Saint Joan of Arc was born on January Sixth 1412, at a small village near the province of Lorraine - this could be the reference in X.50, however not the House of Lorraine prophecy since that implies nobility. The natal coincidence with the date of the Capitol riot could prove esoterically significant.
> > > > >
> > > > > In a vision at age thirteen, Joan was encouraged by entities she described as very beautiful, including the Archangel Michael, to drive the English from her country, then conduct the Dauphin to Reims for his coronation. The story has been adapted for film from the silent era, a compelling tale of visionary faith merging with militaristic nationalism, progressing towards a tragic conclusion. The Maid of Orleans, clad in armor as the standard-bearer for French Victory, became a prisoner of the English, attempting to break her as a symbol of the Faith that had defeated them. After being burned alive, such extreme efforts were taken to ensure no relic would survive for veneration, that an executioner expressed fear of his own damnation.
> > > > > Lady honored by force of terror
> > > > > This line in I.94 coupled with the New Mars concept suggests the ironic fiery cataclysm, in its timely recalling of Saint Joan suffering her horrific mortal fate, would in a sardonic fashion honor the manner of her death.
> > > > >
> > > > > *
> > > > >
> > > > > 'Lovely
> > > > > Lethal
> > > > > Metal
> > > > > Maid'
> > > > >
> > > > > ...'Made her look a little like
> > > > > A milit'ry man'
> > > > >
> > > > > [comb-and-paper, speeded up:]
> > > > >
> > > > > 'Wore -
> > > > > Men's
> > > > > Clo-thing'
> > > > >
> > > > > 'Lovely Lethal,
> > > > > Lovely Lethal
> > > > >
> > > > > MAID...
> > > > >
> > > > > - Of
> > > > > Orleans!'
> > > > The songs of Sgt Pepper corresponding to saints, building towards Christ as the Saint of Saints in the finale, was one of several subliminal tangents explored. John Lennon explained things were thrown in together chaotically to create each song as a unique entity: so the Liddell sisters seated on a sofa photographed by Carroll seems referenced in a line; the "Lovely Rita" concept dovetails with the persona of Saint Joan of Arc; there is a storybook parallel with Cinderella; and the predominant theme, emerging in a transmutation of the refrain, cleverly returns to the gospel material (in a manner now withheld).
> > > >
> > > > They insisted they were thinking of bananas writing "She's Leaving Home"; and the request to producer George Martin for "Being For The Benefit of Mister Kite" was to 'make it sound like an orange.'
> > > >
> > > > Saturnins Under The Balance For Venusian Candle & Chalice At Great Mercury
> > > >
> > > > Looking at the remainder of the the lunar course in Libra, presuming that constellation is the New Cupbearer in perplexity with Pisces as the current location for Neptune, and the Balance concept in V.42 is parallel, the observed celestial movements suggest new correlations with the prophecies.
> > > >
> > > > The invented term 'Saturnins' would now mean two successive Grand Trines where Saturn appears close to the Midheaven point.
> > > >
> > > > The 'Vertex celebration' of V.18 may be found in an aftermath triple conjunction, so not relevant at the cataclysmic onset.
> > > >
> > > > The Candle configuration could apply to the false rapport of the weak trine between Venus and Neptune; and the Chalice could be a simultaneous Pediment formation, requiring only an extra pivotal point.
> > > >
> > > > If there is no access to an astrology program to animate the Geneva charts with local specificity, there are online ephemeris sources that can be used to verify the placements of celestial points.
> > > >
> > > > astro.com/swisseph/ae/2000/ae_2023.pdf
> > > >
> > > > The listing for Thursday 2 February 2023 shows Venus at 7 degrees 20 minutes Pisces; the Moon moving from 2 degrees Cancer; and the South Node at 8.5 degrees Scorpio - and Mars uninvolved around 10.5 degrees Gemini. This is the Venusian Grand Trine on the feast of Saint Joan de Lestonnac, with Mars in Gemini not Cancer.
> > > >
> > > > Listing Tuesday 21 March shows the Sun entering Aries, with the following from Pisces for the New Moon; Venus at 5 degrees Taurus, with the Node at 6 degrees - placing Juno there can be done with an ephemeris for minor bodies (link below).
> > > >
> > > > On Friday 17 March the Saturn (1 degree Pisces) sextile Venus aspect (zero degrees Taurus) is evident in the listing, however the inclusion of the intrusive Vertex forming the Pediment (I.54) requires the Geneva location for that calculation.
> > > >
> > > > The Thursday 27 April Neptune lunar trine can be discerned (Neptune 26 degrees 37 minutes Pisces, the Moon 26 degrees 26 minutes Cancer); also Venus at 18 degrees Gemini sextile Chiron at 17 degrees Aries - however the Vertex and Fortune are again not available to demonstrate the Double Pediment effect implying the esoteric mixing stage; notice also New Mars is then in Cancer at 16 degrees 49 minutes.
> > > >
> > > > A resource for the minor bodies is -
> > > >
> > > > cafeastrology.com/asteroid-ephemeris2023.html
> > > >
> > > > There the location of Vesta could be verified, combined with the other source to confirm conjunction of 30 May 2023 with Ouranos.
> > > >
> > > > It also shows Pallas was around 11.5 degrees Cancer on 2 February 2023; and it gives the position of Juno on 21 March as 5 degrees 25 minutes Taurus, for the Venus-Node-Juno triple conjunct subtly featured in X.17.
> > > >
> > > > For 31 May 2023 using Geneva coordinates and CEST:
> > > >
> > > > 7:24 am - Grand Trine of the South Node with the Ascendant and Midheaven - the Moon about two-thirds through its Libra transit, with Saturn at 6 degrees 57 minutes Pisces and Midheaven nearby at 3 degrees 40 minutes in the same sign;
> > > >
> > > > 7:53 am - Vertex in dual trine with Neptune and Venus as false rapport of X.28 -
> > > >
> > > > Venus 24 degrees 49 minutes Cancer;
> > > > Vertex 25 degrees 42 minutes Scorpio; and
> > > > Neptune 27 degrees 26 minutes Pisces
> > > >
> > > > This could also be the actual Candle of VI.35, since unchanged Saturn in that subsequent case is also close to Midheaven, then about 11.5 degrees Pisces;
> > > >
> > > > The Venus-Vertex trine simultaneously forms a Pediment with Ceres at 25 degrees 44 minutes Virgo, perhaps offering the Chalice of VI.89: so Venus receives both ominous symbols at the same time -
> > > >
> > > > And Mercury is then precisely at the fifteen-degree zero-minute midpoint of the Taurus constellation, for the Great Mercury of X.79, and perhaps the High-Born of II.92 (!);
> > > >
> > > > 9:25 pm - Venus, Fortune and the Vertex in a triple conjunction around 25.4 degrees Cancer, as the 'vitrix' of V.18 celebrating the Sacrifice.
> > > >
> > > > A normal Venusian Grand Trine with Neptune and Midheaven occurs 1 June 2023 12:36 am CEST, spanning from 25.5 to 27.5 degrees in the Water signs, with the Moon still not yet out of Libra.
> > > >
> > > > It is doubtful the Saturnin configuration at 7:24 am is anything but a common device (Saturn near Midheaven as 'with gold' in IX.44) to focus on the 7:53 am conditions, so the critical time should be -
> > > >
> > > > << 31 May 2023 7:53 am CEST / 1:53 am EDT / 30 May 2023 10:53 pm PDT >>
> > > >
> > > > These shifting parameters reflect my own evolving level of understanding, and the timely nature of this endeavor has been explained.
> > > Any comments about lunatic ranting should be reflected back on the political frontrunner who advises trashing the Constitution, going into default, pardoning insurrectionists, declassifying documents by internal thought without alerting operatives, terminating government authorities who might conduct investigations on himself, etc. From what I can tell the tendency is to seek authoritarian rule from someone who is actually ranting like a lunatic or mobster: my esotericism is based in logic and personal experience, not tribalism and propaganda, so it is off-brand to both sides of the current culture wars.
> > >
> > > There is a major theoretical test upcoming on 3 June 2023: the ephemeris linked would show the Moon at 27 degrees 4 minutes Scorpio; Venus at 27 degrees 32 minutes Cancer; and Neptune at 27 degrees 29 minutes Pisces. Essentially it repeats the 2 February 2023 Venusian Lunar Grand Trine, with a notable substitution.
> > >
> > > Scorpio Cupbearer Perplexity With Neptune Debases Venusian Rapport [3 June 2023 2:42 am CEST]
> > >
> > > Reading 'Under the Balance' from V.42 as intending Scorpio instead of Libra as New Cupbearer offers an intriguing possibility: the Scorpio Moon will form a sustained Grand Trine with Venus and Neptune during that interval, ominously reminiscent of the 2 February Venusian Lunar Grand Trine with the South Node.
> > >
> > > While Scorpio is technically a Water sign, the other two represent Fish and Crab which live in the sea, while the scorpion is a land creature whose relevant fluid is blood.
> > >
> > > The Neptune lunar trine occurs with Venus offset by five minutes of a degree, which is negligible, yet could establish the false rapport of X.28..
> > >
> > > For 3 June 2023 using Geneva coordinates and CEST:
> > >
> > > 2:04 am - Saturn rises locally at Ascendant;
> > >
> > > 2:42 am - Neptune lunar trine (27 degrees 28 minutes) within Grand Trine including Venus (27 degrees 33 minutes Cancer) - this would be the critical time -
> > >
> > > << 3 June 2023 2:42 am CEST / 2 June 2023 8:42 pm EDT, 5:42 pm PDT >>;
> > >
> > > 2:46 am - Neptune at Ascendant;
> > >
> > > 2:50 am - Venus lunar trine (within Grand Trine with Neptune), coinciding with the Vertex falling at the Descendant.
> > >
> > > Saturn would have been the last celestial body to rise, with Neptune not quite at the Ascendant, which could explain the Saturnins term, although not the 'd'or' golden remark from IX.44.
> > >
> > > Mercury is then in an alignment, set to conjoin Ouranos 4 June 2023 9:38 pm CEST (20 degrees 24 minutes Taurus), then Vesta 6 June 2023 11:55 pm CEST. This is not the dynamic situation expected for the Great Mercury of X.79, just as the Vertex participation by merely descending timely seems anticlimactic for V.18.
> > >
> > > The Neptune-Moon perplexity within the Venusian Grand Trine (i.e., Chalice or Cup) is an overtly stated feature consistent with the Cupbearer theory: the Scorpio Moon bears the Cup because it partially composes it, without its being in Scorpio the triangular configuration with Venus and Neptune could not occur.
> > >
> > > The Neptune lunar trine has the Corinth-Ephesus perplexity with the circumstance of Venus being ostensibly included, yet also creates a perfect aspect that conspicuously excludes Venus only slightly.
> > >
> > > There are many other Grand Trine configurations during the Scorpio lunar transit, however the theme of a Venusian Lunar Grand Trine is being significantly repeated, substituting Neptune for the South Node from the 2 February 2023 circumstance.
> > John Lennon in 'Bring On The Lucie" sang
> >
> > "...You'd better bear this thought in mind:
> > Your time is up,
> > You'd better know it -
> > But maybe you don't read The Signs"
> >
> > A false eschatology has emerged around the creation of Israel in 1948 ensuring salvation by quasi-scriptural Rapture invention, an inferior interpretation that would not allow for Remembrance of the Ascension as 'being caught up in the air with' Jesus, instead expecting a globally-visible recognizable floating Christ form that enables the professed faithful to levitate into the upper stratosphere. Lennon should have perceived the 1967 Six-Day War whereby Israel regained Jerusalem as the more pivotal event, whether he was aware of the Revelation correlation with Daniel's Seventy Weeks prophecy as coinciding with his declared multi-year schedule for the group. Harrison hinted the group had cast boulders into the waters, with the inevitable tidal wave level ripples yet to ensue.
> >
> > The earliest Apocalypse was a dream of Henoch, with human generations depicted by animals with symbolic overtones, canonical in a language older than Hebrew; its prophecies fulfilled included reference to the three sons of Constantine, proceeding into the Holocaust, whose aftermath features a group of lambs crying out without being comprehended by blind sheep; then one Ram opening its eyes to genuinely perceive grows a horn representing Faith, which all the faithless others attempt to break.
> >
> > The Beatles' Remembrance of Jesus has masterfully accomplished across various genres into tantalizing song entities, there is a sublime quality to how the precise messages are articulated within the instrumentally and vocally realized musicology, with a combination of solid theological foundation and modern mischievous whimsy. One example does not provide the entire picture, the aggregation gives a sense of proceeding to a succession of climaxes.
> >
> > When they received their MBE medals, George Harrison joked it could stand for "Mister Brian Epstein." Whatever his professional flaws in their management, Epstein believed in them when they needed that support, and facilitated the success that had eluded them. Yet the audition with George Martin was headed for rejection, until Harrison broke the ice by commenting on his tie.
> >
> > * Corinth & Ephesus In Perplexity Debases Venus In Their Mutual Rapport *
> >
> > The prophecy allows clarification before activation: the 2 February 2023 Venusian Lunar Grand Trine has a reprise 3 June 2023, substituting Neptune for the South Node; the 27 April 2023 1:40 am CEST Neptune lunar trine for Geneva suggested the mixing stage in the same Cupbearer with inclusion of New Mars, the chart implying three Pediments, two overlapping with Venus sextile Vertex (involving the Chiron-Fortune opposition), and Neptune-Juno-Moon. This is eschatology and prophetic interpretation on an unprecedented level, which infers some negative energy being infused for the Neptune lunar trine aspect, which is part of the 3 June 2023 Grand Trine.
> >
> > Resetting the hagiological references, 3 June has feasts for the widow and virgin of VIII.80, in Saints Clotilde and Paula, respectively; also for Saint Morand (died 1115), patron of wine-makers, for having sustained himself one Lent on a bunch of grapes.
> >
> > Saint Saturnina of Arras has a 4 June feast, as a likely fictional German virgin-martyr in Arras, France - and the patron of wine merchants. The name 'Saturnina' could be implied by the cryptic Saturnin term, indicating that day, despite the coincidence of Saturn having risen for the projected fateful Chalice debasement.
> >
> > Saint Austrebertus was Vienne bishop from 726 until his death in 742, with feast on 5 June.
> >
> > For 6 June, Blessed William Greenwood has an additional memorial to 4 May as a Carthusian martyr, arrested at the London Charterhouse for opposing policies of Henry VIII, starved to death 6 June 1537 at Newgate Prison.
> >
> > A plausible Lombardy V.42 reference candidate also has the 6 June feast: Saint Eustorgius II, bishop of Milan from 512; he spent heavily to ransom Christians abducted by barbarians, and died in 518 of natural causes.
> >
> > The solution for 'Saturne d'or' from IX.44 could be nothing to do with Midheaven, if meant to indicate a pre-cataclysmic condition for Geneva on the 3 June 2023 schedule.
> >
> > The daily recurrence of Saturn at the East Point has a quirk on the 3 June 2023 instance at 1:26 am CEST, since there will be a non-repeating dramatic opposition with Fortune:
> >
> > Saturn 7 degrees 1 minutes Pisces /
> > East Point 7 degrees 5 minutes Pisces
> > -opposed by-
> > Fortune 6 degrees 3 minutes Virgo
> >
> > Perhaps the auspicious inference of Fortune is being rendered as the 'golden' influence for Saturn at that daily juncture, as ironic prelude to its fateful rising: this could also be a 'good omen' involving Fortune from II.66, prior to a city being besieged.
> >
> > The basic definition of perplexity is an intertwining, describing the interacting trio necessary for a Grand Trine, which is being called esoterically a Cup or Chalice.
> >
> > The Venusian Lunar trine of 2 February 2023 had Venus under 8 degrees Pisces, and the South Node near 8.5 degrees Taurus, so the Cancer Moon had its official trine aspect with Venus first.
> >
> > In the 3 June 2023 Venusian Lunar Trine, Venus loses the competition for lunar favor to Neptune by a mere five minutes of a degree -
> >
> > And to put a spotlight on the Neptunian victory, its primary Scorpio lunar trine coincides with Neptune reaching the East Point, as though it had crossed the finish line in a marathon. This is what seems to trigger the incident, with Saturn already risen, but Neptune arriving quickly on the horizon as an Ambassador of the Venusian Chalice.
> >
> > The Vertex at that point around 28 degrees Virgo also forms the Crest of a Pediment with Venus and the Moon, peaking around 2:38 am CEST.
> >
> > Venus, apparently recalling her glory in the 2 February 2023 case, is debased by being demoted to the secondary lunar trine in the Chalice of Perplexity, with her failure celebrated by the Vertex signifying downfall, also occurring in tandem with the ongoing Sacrifice in the wake of the cataclysmic onset.
> >
> > Venus as Mystery Babylon (demonstrated Friday 9 September 2022 at its lunar opposition) should be the High-Born figure of II.92, perhaps with the identifying word 'Harlot' missing as previously conjectured. The minor variations in location that determine the primary and secondary lunar trines within a Grand Trine configuration are not discernible except by obtaining numerical data, however this sequence has synchronized signs: Neptune meeting the East Point at its primary lunar trine; and the Vertex dropping at the Descendant for the secondary lunar trine with Venus.
> >
> > If the Great Mercury of X.79 means ascending for Geneva, that occurs 3 June 2023 4:38 am CEST, associated with trembling.
> >
> > The Saturnins enduring the worst should be the four minutes prior to Neptune rising, in the wake of cataclysmic onset, signifying a localized catastrophic phase.
> Unfortunate news from India has again proven the relevance of the French seer's contribution, clarified through my own timely interpretation: but before making the requisite elaborations, my thoughts are traveling back to the days of the US South expressing indignation over religious views they did not comprehend, and how they publicly imposed their inferior opinions.
>
> When the effort to boycott The Beatles was gaining momentum, a radio station in Longview, Texas, announcing a bonfire of their records as an event was struck by a bolt of lightning that knocked their news director unconscious, and damaged equipment. People forget the Higher Powers have their own opinions.
>
> When a clergy member threatened all concertgoers with excommunication, The Beatles were determined to proceed with the show anyway. Yet serendipity removed the stressful situation: the concert was outdoors, and rain ensued, causing the guitarists to receive electric shocks, so the performance had to be cancelled.
>
> Innocent Blood At Widow & Virgin; Mercurial Chalice With Saturnins At Lombardy
> [6 June 2023 8:07pm CEST / 2:07 pm EDT / 11:07 am PDT]
>
> The expectation of innocent bloodshed at the 3 June 2023 date determined for the widow and virgin of VIII.80 (as feast for Saints Clotilde and Paula, respectively) has sadly been realized in the train derailment occurring in India, at Balasore in eastern Odisha state. The death toll has reached 288 with over a thousand injured. The collision included two passenger trains and a freight train, with traffic signaling failure in preliminary consideration for the cause. While this tragic incident happened 6:50 pm local time on 2 June 2023, the horrific aftermath is consuming the following day as foretold.
>
> The derailment chart shows Neptune set at the Nadir, before the Moon moved into position for its Grand Trine with Venus. There is an implied association of the India train derailment with the ominously anticipated Venusian Cup appearing 3 June 2023 2:46 am CEST, which locally occurred 3 June 6:15 am IST.
>
> It now appears the Cup mixed doubly for Venus means there will be a second Chalice that will be tried soon for the Geneva event itself. Another feast on 3 June for Saint Morand, patron of wine-makers, puts wine on the table to be spilled for VII.5.
>
> The Moon enters Sagittarius 3 June 2023 7:04 am CEST, leaving the Scorpio Cupbearer constellation.
>
> Mercury first surpassing the Heavens planet (VI.70), then reaching Vesta (X.6) over the next few days presents timing factors.
>
> The seer has incorporated conceptual points and given the Geneva location, so those local charts should be animated to observe the precise movements.. The prophecies summarize features to watch for, yet it is only by running an astrology program that relevant intricacies of the cosmic dance can be revealed.
>
> The Full Moon occurs 4 June 2023 5:42 am CEST, which could be the generic 'Sol et Lune' from V.66; Mercury conjoins Ouranos later that day at 9:38 pm CEST, for the surpassing of The Heavens in VI.70.
>
> Venus enters Leo 5 June 2023 3:47 pm CEST, arriving in the constellation where the New Mars is residing, which could establish the 'false rapport' of X.28, since Mars currently represents vengeance against Venus herself.
>
> For 6 June 2023 using Geneva coordinates and CEST:
>
> 7:30 pm - Vertex trine Saturn - this is a daily-recurring condition associated with the Candleflame theory (however the South Node implications are being discarded);
>
> 8:07 pm - Fortune trine Saturn - this is an isolated occurrence, coincidentally following the Vertex-Saturn trine, so the two trine aspects in successive combination could be construed as 'The Saturnins' -
>
> There is a synchronized Mercurial Lunar Grand Trine, which could constitute the Great Mercury of X.79 -
>
> Moon 21 degrees 5 minutes Capricorn /
> Midheaven 22 degrees 8 minutes Virgo /
> Mercury 22 degrees 59 minutes Taurus &
> Vesta 23 degrees 9 minutes Taurus
>
> - this would be the critical time, perhaps the trying of the Chalice in VI.89 -
>
> << 6 June 2023 8:07 pm CEST / 2:07 pm EDT / 11:07 am PDT >> -
>
> The prior Venus-Neptune Grand Trine simultaneously returns with the Ascendant taking the lunar role;
>
> 9:18 pm - Dusk causes Fortune to jump beneath the Ecliptic;
>
> 9:28 pm - Venus is conjoined by the Vertex, perhaps as the 'vitrix' celebration of V.18;
>
> 11:55 pm - Mercury conjoins Vesta, perhaps indicated by the 'Vesta sepulchral fire' of X.6.
>
> The 6 June date falls on the feast of Saint Eustorgius II, bishop of Milan from 512 until his death in 518, thereby providing a Lombard connection, as in V.42 and VI.16.

On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 1:32:36 PM UTC-7, Curtis Eagal wrote:
> On Saturday, June 3, 2023 at 9:13:52 AM UTC-7, Curtis Eagal wrote:
> > On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 9:51:05 AM UTC-7, Curtis Eagal wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, May 31, 2023 at 3:25:31 AM UTC-7, Curtis Eagal wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, May 30, 2023 at 1:18:08 PM UTC-7, Curtis Eagal wrote:
> > > > > On Monday, May 29, 2023 at 4:56:40 PM UTC-7, Curtis Eagal wrote:
> > > > > > On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 7:03:28 PM UTC-7, geoff wrote:
> > > > > > > On 28/05/2023 12:13 am, Famous Amos wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Saturday, March 25, 2023 at 3:29:25 PM UTC-4, Curtis Eagal wrote:
> > > > > > > >> Bob Eubanks recently recalled how manager Brian Epstein limited the famous group's earning potential by insisting the maximum price for a ticket to a Beatles' concert would be seven dollars. Also there was nothing else for fans to purchase, since attempts to relitigate an unfavorable merchandising deal ruined the production-distribution chain, and the band members were sickened to learn how much income they had lost by that source.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> There was a harrowing incident when they toured Manila: a public relations nightmare ensued when they were cast as national villains for not attending a state function televised live; the group conferring decided Epstein was ultimately responsible for the scheduling debacle and ensuing ordeal, in a collective terse expletive.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> *
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Tornadoes Of 24 March Attributable To Bologna (IX.13)
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> From 4 March 2023:
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> https://groups.google.com/g/alt.prophecies.nostradamus/c/w360JNUDgjU/m/bSo9J79wAQAJ
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> << Two of Modena truculent for Bologna,
> > > > > > > >> Set discovered through the fire of Buzancais
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> The interpretation should be focused on hagiology, rather than geography, since timing is thusly frequently obscured.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Buzancais was known for a food riot in 1847, with half-starved peasants intercepting grain carts, ultimately suppressed by three rioters being guillotined, after a local elite retaliating with gunfire being beaten to death by the mob caused the remainder to cower. Instead the date of 9 January is inferred via feast for Saint Honorius of Buzancais (d. 1250), a cattle merchant who financially assisted young girls, but was ultimately killed by thieves he had reprimanded.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> January Ninth 2023 was the day about 1200 insurrectionists were arrested in Brasilia, however the fire in IX.13 may have been supplied by an X1.9-class solar flare from an active sunspot (AR3184) facing Earth that day, causing radio blackouts for parts of South America; the same sunspot was responsible for an X1.2-class solar flare 5 January 2023 (day of the funeral for Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI) - an X2 solar flare is four times more powerful than an M5 flare.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Line 3 employs a subtle trick for the 'Two of Modena': the town's patron is Saint Geminiano (312-397), whose name suggests the Gemini twins; although the citizens of Modena overwhelmingly wanted Geminiano for their bishop, he felt unworthy and fled - he had to be found and persuaded.. Renowned as an exorcist, Geminiano performed this service successfully for the daughter of Emperor Jovian. In Modena on his 31 January feast there is a special Mass, and his crypt is opened to public view. When Attila the Hun threatened to invade Modena in 452, Geminiano was invoked for protection, and a thick fog conveniently blanketed the city so it was safely bypassed.. January 31 2023 was the gap-day between the Three Holy Hierarchs including Basil the Great of 30 January (V.83, VI.78), and the predominantly German thunderstorm with two tornadoes on 1 February 2023. Thus the harsh (or truculent) storm razing a pine forest in northern Germany was indicated as precursor for a later event associated with a Bologna date. >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Tornadoes in the southern US on 24 March 2023 have caused about two dozen fatalities; hagiological research had been done designating Saint John del Bastone with a 24 March feast and association with Bologna for the IX.13 allusion.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/25/weather/us-severe-storms-saturday/index.html
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Two episodes of cyclonic activity derived as dual subjects, in different places at different times, makes the fulfillment dramatic.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> https://tech.hindustantimes.com/tech/news/sun-hurls-out-cme-towards-earth-g1-class-geomagnetic-storm-to-hit-soonuntitled-story-71679283288194.html
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> The open-ended astrological hints for the cataclysmic onset in Geneva appear to coalesce for late March 2023; the Saturnin reign and cycles from I.54 line 2 have transpired, and the hagiology cannot be easily re-evaluated, but several quatrains have presented recent fulfillments suggesting imminent inevitability.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> There are two close sustained trines that could be used for transforming into a Grand Trine with the Vertex (V.18): Ceres with Pluto, leading to the 9:40 pm CEST general time daily, without much potential for the proper dynamics; and Saturn with Mars, which could provide the Sword element for IX.44, after the 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET Saturnin Grand Trine with solar proximity for the Golden factor.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> The Saturn-Mars-Vertex Grand Trine for Geneva recurs daily in late March 2023 at a time that also brings Venus into conjunction with the East Point. The Cupbearer falsifies as VI.89 says, until the Chalice is tried with the activating conditions.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> From V.66 the time after the 21 March 2023 New Moon was indicated, implying a limit at the Half Moon 29 March 4:31 am CEST.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> A pivotal aspect is Mercury conjoining Jupiter as the striking of the High-Born from II.92 28 March 2023 8:42 am CEST - this provides a rival conjunction diminishing the established claim Venus has on the recurring Grand Trine.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Looking back, the prior lunar conjunct was with Ouranos 25 March 2023 12:51 am CET, as VI.70 expresses the noise and light surpassing the Heavens, occurring before the next celestial body is reached.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> And the prior lunar aspect was a square with Neptune 28 March 2023 3:39 am CEST, for the perplexity between Corinth and Ephesus in III.3.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> The spot occupied by the rapidly-shifting Vertex to form the Grand Trine with Saturn and Mars is about two degrees into Scorpio, fulfilling the final line of V.42 by suggesting a point 'under the Balance,' or beneath the Libran constellation, bringing the Grand Trine together as combined points.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> For 28 March 2023 using Geneva coordinates and CEST:
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> 3:39 am - Neptune lunar square (III.3);
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> 8:42 am - Mercury-Jupiter conjunct, Jupiter as High-Born of II.92;
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> 10:00 am - Saturnin Grand Trine with Mars and the Vertex - Venus debased at the East Point, upstaged by the Mercury-Jupiter conjunction, critical time -
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> << 28 March 2023 10 am CEST / 4 am EDT / 1 am PDT >>;
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> 10:02 am - Ceres lunar square (ends III.3 condition);
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> 3:19 pm - Mars lunar conjunct - 'The New Mars for vengeance and remorse' (I.94);
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Mercury proceeds to make its next planetary conjunction with Vesta 30 March 2023 4:03 pm CEST, corresponding with the X.6 line -
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> 'Vesta - sepulchral extinguishing fire to appear'
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> For the Lady honored through force of terror in I.94, there is Blessed Agnes of Chatillon with feast on 28 March, and an additional memorial on 29 March in the Cisterian order; Agnes served as sub-prioress in the monastery of Beaupre, Belgium, circa 1200. She was a visionary with a particular devotion to the Eucharist, falling into ecstasy frequently after partaking Communion. The extension into the adjacent day with the extra memorial could be what is inferred from the 'New Mars' lunar conjunct date of 28 March 2023.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> The Saturn trine with Mars that is foundational for the Chalice officially occurs 30 March 2023 8:15 pm CEST, a date with plausibly relevant hagiology.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Saint Secundus of Asti has the 30 March feast, a Roman soldier of the Patrician class, baptized as a Christian in Milan; when it was discovered he gave a Christian burial to a martyr he fled to Asti, but was ultimately found, tortured and beheaded circa 119. Milan is in the Lombard region for V.42 and VI.16.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> The first bishop of Civitas Silvanectium in Gaul was Saint Regulus (died 260), also having a 30 March feast (Gaul to tremble in X.58)..
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Another memorial on 30 March is for a group of martyrs in Greece circa 300 with Saint Domninus and others, including one named Victor (VI.70).
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > King Jom Un is top of the line
> > > > > > > > Putin is a genious and a friend of Mine
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > That woman is a whack-job I neva met her
> > > > > > > > The Sowdee Prince is a man I prefer
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I can do what I want with the dockyoumints
> > > > > > > > I unproven all actions of the Sowdee Prince!!!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Genious!! I am the Masta Of Windmills'!!!!!
> > > > > > > Is Curtis Eagal and Famous Amos in fact the same person ? Curious, as
> > > > > > > threads from Curtis mostly consist of him replying to his own bizarre
> > > > > > > rants. And FA similarly, but with a little interaction between the 'two'.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > geoff
> > > > > > I am not replying to myself, but demonstrating that although the major event is imminent the sequence had to be observed and analyzed, which is far too complex a notion to be conveyed in a single post, as if I knew everything at the outset, or remade my message every time - this is a refinement of something determined to be inevitable, drawing on the logic of a long yet unreported track record. The modern attention span is definitely diminishing, but the relevant sequence started 2 February 2023 with the all-day Venusian Grand Trine on feast of Saint Joan de Lestonnac, as solution for part of X.17, which was set at the Juno-Venus-Node conjunct of 21 March 2023 at the New Moon. These correlations with the astrology are specific to 2023, even if they are too subtle and cryptic to be communicated as anything but nonsense by the average person. I've had people say it's like Chinese to them. If this were common knowledge I would not feel obligated to provide the information. There have been numerous occasions where the conjectures have resulted in definite fulfillments, but since these have not been reported in media there is sustained yet baseless resistance to acknowledging the continuing effect of known prophecies being genuine into the current era, just as any theory regarding The Beatles would be culturally preferable to admitting they fed society back the story of Jesus without it being recognized.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It is not as if I believe fulfillment can convince anyone anymore, if that were the case it would have been with the exact date foretold for the Columbia shuttle disaster 16 months early, or the date for the Floyd death more recently, which was also pinpointed, in that case as a trigger for widespread anger, before it occurred.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Beatles labored ingeniously on a pop-culture version of the Christian story, only to have their fans project any other dark and sinister things onto their work, and regard inherently obvious solutions as some bizarre invasive idea, while consistent with all their remarks from interviews. Everything they created was like a piece of a puzzle, just like with Nostradamus: except while they regressively built a Remembrance of the Christian story, the French seer was encoding something like the Akashic records..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In the first few bars of "Lady Madonna" with the piano mimicking Fats Domino from "Badpenny Blues," there is the same theme as in "Back In The USSR":
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 'When He -
> > > > > > Was Thirteen'
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In the middle of the USSR solo, the guitar is played as if to emphatically convey,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > '...He - Left - Home -
> > > > > > At - Thir-teen...'
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The oddly bent note opening the White Album also sounds remarkably like,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 'TWELVE'
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The musical dream was for the subconscious, built into all the hooks and riffs, which is so consciously enjoyable the tendency is not to look past that pleasure.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > * Lovely Lethal Metal Maid *
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The conjunction of Vesta and Ouranos takes place about twenty-two minutes after the pair drops beneath the Ecliptic (30 May 2023 7:33 pm CEST), thereby aligning with the remark from V.65 that the lady on burning coals will no longer be in view, having recently set by the projected schedule.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Des principaux de l'affaire caches
> > > > > > Et dame en braise plus ne sera en vue
> > > > > >
> > > > > > With the principals of the affair hidden
> > > > > > And the lady on burning coals will no longer be in view
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The principal players in the 'Saturnin Affair' are either conceptual (Vertex, Fortune, Ascendant, South Node) or beneath the Ecliptic (Saturn and Neptune), except for Venus herself; there is nothing special about the lunar appearance for being mid-way through Libra, waxing from a Half Moon. The theme of V.65 is that the Higher Powers allow the sudden terror, with the signs expressed subtly towards an overtly innocuous situation, gradually angered into withdrawing assistance that might otherwise be provided. While V.66 focused on the 20 April 2023 solar eclipse in line 4, the previous line may have shifted without fanfare to the recent Half Moon 27 May 2023.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Since 30 May is feast for Saint Joan of Arc, who was burned alive on that day in 1431, the references to a lady engulfed by flames in V.65 and VI.19 could work in tandem, except that a saint should probably not want to put Innocents to the fire, even if that was how their own martyrdom manifested. The 8 May 2023 4:48 pm CEST Vesta engulfment by Fortune identifying the Candle configuration as the True Flame, for later reiteration using the Vertex, could explain VI.19 without Saint Joan directly.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Because the Vesta-Ouranos coupling is part of the populous grouping in Taurus, and their merging is synchronized with the appearance of the Venusian-Neptunian Chalice, that could explain the betrayal originating from the Great Urn as the Taurean constellation in X.50, also inhabited by the Node, Jupiter, and Mercury.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Saint Maximus of Trier was born near Poitiers, and is depicted with a bear, for the 29 May feast, which could figure in line 3 of VIII.52 -
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ongle a Poitiers saintes ailes ruiner
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Claw at Poitiers, holy saints to ruin
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A Lombard connection with 30 May for V.42 exists via feast for Saint Anastasius II, who converted from the heresy of Arianism, which disputed the divinity of Christ by a Trinitarian comparison with the Creator-Father presumptive character.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Upon conversion, Anastasius was appointed Bishop of Pavia, Lombardy in 668, remaining so until his death in 680.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > While Geneva's Midheaven version of the Candle dual trine with Saturn and the South Node does not have an ominous Grand Trine 30 May 2023 3:22 pm CEST, when the configuration is consummated by the Saturn-Midheaven trine about twelve minutes later (3:34 pm CEST), the chart elements appears conspicuously orchestrated, with several independent conditions temporally coalescing:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Pallas in Leo lunar sextile at 11 degrees 45 minutes respectively;
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Solar Grand Trine with Fortune and the East Point - this is a very tight triangular form at the 8-degree point in the Air signs, with the East Point substituting for the nearby Ascendant as the pattern with Fortune is slipping out of phase for the Venusian false rapport.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This brief Solar Chalice at the conclusion of the Upright Candleflame configuration, synchronized with the Pallas lunar aspect, in context could fulfill the line from IV.58 about the burning Sun to be swallowed, considering the Venusian-Neptunian Chalice during the subsequent Vertex iteration of the Candle.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Saints Joan of Arc and Anastasius seemed featured for 30 May 2023; 31 May is feast for the Visitation, which appears skipped.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Saint Reverianus with 1 June feast was bishop of Autun, missionary to Gaul circa 273 by order of Emperor Aurelian he was beheaded, martyred with Saint Paulus and ten others; Gaul is to tremble in X.58.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Also for 1 June are concurrent feasts for Saints Felinus and Gratia of Perugia (martyrs circa 250), and Saint Peter of Pisa (1355-1435) - this is an unanticipated possibility for 'Perugia at Pisa' to solve VII.5. The name 'Gratia' could be hinted by the Ile de Graye specific island theme of V.16.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Again skipping a day, for 3 June there are two concurrent feasts that could be the meaning for the widow and virgin of VIII.80: Saint Clotilde (born 475, Lyons) was Queen of the Franks, married to King Clovis, whose death made her a widow - she died at Tours in 548; and Saint Paula of Nicomedia was a consecrated virgin, tortured before being sent to Constantinople for beheading in 273.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Saint Joan of Arc was born on January Sixth 1412, at a small village near the province of Lorraine - this could be the reference in X.50, however not the House of Lorraine prophecy since that implies nobility. The natal coincidence with the date of the Capitol riot could prove esoterically significant.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In a vision at age thirteen, Joan was encouraged by entities she described as very beautiful, including the Archangel Michael, to drive the English from her country, then conduct the Dauphin to Reims for his coronation. The story has been adapted for film from the silent era, a compelling tale of visionary faith merging with militaristic nationalism, progressing towards a tragic conclusion. The Maid of Orleans, clad in armor as the standard-bearer for French Victory, became a prisoner of the English, attempting to break her as a symbol of the Faith that had defeated them. After being burned alive, such extreme efforts were taken to ensure no relic would survive for veneration, that an executioner expressed fear of his own damnation.
> > > > > > Lady honored by force of terror
> > > > > > This line in I.94 coupled with the New Mars concept suggests the ironic fiery cataclysm, in its timely recalling of Saint Joan suffering her horrific mortal fate, would in a sardonic fashion honor the manner of her death.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 'Lovely
> > > > > > Lethal
> > > > > > Metal
> > > > > > Maid'
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ...'Made her look a little like
> > > > > > A milit'ry man'
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [comb-and-paper, speeded up:]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 'Wore -
> > > > > > Men's
> > > > > > Clo-thing'
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 'Lovely Lethal,
> > > > > > Lovely Lethal
> > > > > >
> > > > > > MAID...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - Of
> > > > > > Orleans!'
> > > > > The songs of Sgt Pepper corresponding to saints, building towards Christ as the Saint of Saints in the finale, was one of several subliminal tangents explored. John Lennon explained things were thrown in together chaotically to create each song as a unique entity: so the Liddell sisters seated on a sofa photographed by Carroll seems referenced in a line; the "Lovely Rita" concept dovetails with the persona of Saint Joan of Arc; there is a storybook parallel with Cinderella; and the predominant theme, emerging in a transmutation of the refrain, cleverly returns to the gospel material (in a manner now withheld).
> > > > >
> > > > > They insisted they were thinking of bananas writing "She's Leaving Home"; and the request to producer George Martin for "Being For The Benefit of Mister Kite" was to 'make it sound like an orange.'
> > > > >
> > > > > Saturnins Under The Balance For Venusian Candle & Chalice At Great Mercury
> > > > >
> > > > > Looking at the remainder of the the lunar course in Libra, presuming that constellation is the New Cupbearer in perplexity with Pisces as the current location for Neptune, and the Balance concept in V.42 is parallel, the observed celestial movements suggest new correlations with the prophecies.
> > > > >
> > > > > The invented term 'Saturnins' would now mean two successive Grand Trines where Saturn appears close to the Midheaven point.
> > > > >
> > > > > The 'Vertex celebration' of V.18 may be found in an aftermath triple conjunction, so not relevant at the cataclysmic onset.
> > > > >
> > > > > The Candle configuration could apply to the false rapport of the weak trine between Venus and Neptune; and the Chalice could be a simultaneous Pediment formation, requiring only an extra pivotal point.
> > > > >
> > > > > If there is no access to an astrology program to animate the Geneva charts with local specificity, there are online ephemeris sources that can be used to verify the placements of celestial points.
> > > > >
> > > > > astro.com/swisseph/ae/2000/ae_2023.pdf
> > > > >
> > > > > The listing for Thursday 2 February 2023 shows Venus at 7 degrees 20 minutes Pisces; the Moon moving from 2 degrees Cancer; and the South Node at 8.5 degrees Scorpio - and Mars uninvolved around 10.5 degrees Gemini. This is the Venusian Grand Trine on the feast of Saint Joan de Lestonnac, with Mars in Gemini not Cancer.
> > > > >
> > > > > Listing Tuesday 21 March shows the Sun entering Aries, with the following from Pisces for the New Moon; Venus at 5 degrees Taurus, with the Node at 6 degrees - placing Juno there can be done with an ephemeris for minor bodies (link below).
> > > > >
> > > > > On Friday 17 March the Saturn (1 degree Pisces) sextile Venus aspect (zero degrees Taurus) is evident in the listing, however the inclusion of the intrusive Vertex forming the Pediment (I.54) requires the Geneva location for that calculation.
> > > > >
> > > > > The Thursday 27 April Neptune lunar trine can be discerned (Neptune 26 degrees 37 minutes Pisces, the Moon 26 degrees 26 minutes Cancer); also Venus at 18 degrees Gemini sextile Chiron at 17 degrees Aries - however the Vertex and Fortune are again not available to demonstrate the Double Pediment effect implying the esoteric mixing stage; notice also New Mars is then in Cancer at 16 degrees 49 minutes.
> > > > >
> > > > > A resource for the minor bodies is -
> > > > >
> > > > > cafeastrology.com/asteroid-ephemeris2023.html
> > > > >
> > > > > There the location of Vesta could be verified, combined with the other source to confirm conjunction of 30 May 2023 with Ouranos.
> > > > >
> > > > > It also shows Pallas was around 11.5 degrees Cancer on 2 February 2023; and it gives the position of Juno on 21 March as 5 degrees 25 minutes Taurus, for the Venus-Node-Juno triple conjunct subtly featured in X.17.
> > > > >
> > > > > For 31 May 2023 using Geneva coordinates and CEST:
> > > > >
> > > > > 7:24 am - Grand Trine of the South Node with the Ascendant and Midheaven - the Moon about two-thirds through its Libra transit, with Saturn at 6 degrees 57 minutes Pisces and Midheaven nearby at 3 degrees 40 minutes in the same sign;
> > > > >
> > > > > 7:53 am - Vertex in dual trine with Neptune and Venus as false rapport of X.28 -
> > > > >
> > > > > Venus 24 degrees 49 minutes Cancer;
> > > > > Vertex 25 degrees 42 minutes Scorpio; and
> > > > > Neptune 27 degrees 26 minutes Pisces
> > > > >
> > > > > This could also be the actual Candle of VI.35, since unchanged Saturn in that subsequent case is also close to Midheaven, then about 11.5 degrees Pisces;
> > > > >
> > > > > The Venus-Vertex trine simultaneously forms a Pediment with Ceres at 25 degrees 44 minutes Virgo, perhaps offering the Chalice of VI.89: so Venus receives both ominous symbols at the same time -
> > > > >
> > > > > And Mercury is then precisely at the fifteen-degree zero-minute midpoint of the Taurus constellation, for the Great Mercury of X.79, and perhaps the High-Born of II.92 (!);
> > > > >
> > > > > 9:25 pm - Venus, Fortune and the Vertex in a triple conjunction around 25.4 degrees Cancer, as the 'vitrix' of V.18 celebrating the Sacrifice.
> > > > >
> > > > > A normal Venusian Grand Trine with Neptune and Midheaven occurs 1 June 2023 12:36 am CEST, spanning from 25.5 to 27.5 degrees in the Water signs, with the Moon still not yet out of Libra.
> > > > >
> > > > > It is doubtful the Saturnin configuration at 7:24 am is anything but a common device (Saturn near Midheaven as 'with gold' in IX.44) to focus on the 7:53 am conditions, so the critical time should be -
> > > > >
> > > > > << 31 May 2023 7:53 am CEST / 1:53 am EDT / 30 May 2023 10:53 pm PDT >>
> > > > >
> > > > > These shifting parameters reflect my own evolving level of understanding, and the timely nature of this endeavor has been explained.
> > > > Any comments about lunatic ranting should be reflected back on the political frontrunner who advises trashing the Constitution, going into default, pardoning insurrectionists, declassifying documents by internal thought without alerting operatives, terminating government authorities who might conduct investigations on himself, etc. From what I can tell the tendency is to seek authoritarian rule from someone who is actually ranting like a lunatic or mobster: my esotericism is based in logic and personal experience, not tribalism and propaganda, so it is off-brand to both sides of the current culture wars.
> > > >
> > > > There is a major theoretical test upcoming on 3 June 2023: the ephemeris linked would show the Moon at 27 degrees 4 minutes Scorpio; Venus at 27 degrees 32 minutes Cancer; and Neptune at 27 degrees 29 minutes Pisces. Essentially it repeats the 2 February 2023 Venusian Lunar Grand Trine, with a notable substitution.
> > > >
> > > > Scorpio Cupbearer Perplexity With Neptune Debases Venusian Rapport [3 June 2023 2:42 am CEST]
> > > >
> > > > Reading 'Under the Balance' from V.42 as intending Scorpio instead of Libra as New Cupbearer offers an intriguing possibility: the Scorpio Moon will form a sustained Grand Trine with Venus and Neptune during that interval, ominously reminiscent of the 2 February Venusian Lunar Grand Trine with the South Node.
> > > >
> > > > While Scorpio is technically a Water sign, the other two represent Fish and Crab which live in the sea, while the scorpion is a land creature whose relevant fluid is blood.
> > > >
> > > > The Neptune lunar trine occurs with Venus offset by five minutes of a degree, which is negligible, yet could establish the false rapport of X.28.
> > > >
> > > > For 3 June 2023 using Geneva coordinates and CEST:
> > > >
> > > > 2:04 am - Saturn rises locally at Ascendant;
> > > >
> > > > 2:42 am - Neptune lunar trine (27 degrees 28 minutes) within Grand Trine including Venus (27 degrees 33 minutes Cancer) - this would be the critical time -
> > > >
> > > > << 3 June 2023 2:42 am CEST / 2 June 2023 8:42 pm EDT, 5:42 pm PDT >>;
> > > >
> > > > 2:46 am - Neptune at Ascendant;
> > > >
> > > > 2:50 am - Venus lunar trine (within Grand Trine with Neptune), coinciding with the Vertex falling at the Descendant.
> > > >
> > > > Saturn would have been the last celestial body to rise, with Neptune not quite at the Ascendant, which could explain the Saturnins term, although not the 'd'or' golden remark from IX.44.
> > > >
> > > > Mercury is then in an alignment, set to conjoin Ouranos 4 June 2023 9:38 pm CEST (20 degrees 24 minutes Taurus), then Vesta 6 June 2023 11:55 pm CEST. This is not the dynamic situation expected for the Great Mercury of X.79, just as the Vertex participation by merely descending timely seems anticlimactic for V.18.
> > > >
> > > > The Neptune-Moon perplexity within the Venusian Grand Trine (i.e., Chalice or Cup) is an overtly stated feature consistent with the Cupbearer theory: the Scorpio Moon bears the Cup because it partially composes it, without its being in Scorpio the triangular configuration with Venus and Neptune could not occur.
> > > >
> > > > The Neptune lunar trine has the Corinth-Ephesus perplexity with the circumstance of Venus being ostensibly included, yet also creates a perfect aspect that conspicuously excludes Venus only slightly.
> > > >
> > > > There are many other Grand Trine configurations during the Scorpio lunar transit, however the theme of a Venusian Lunar Grand Trine is being significantly repeated, substituting Neptune for the South Node from the 2 February 2023 circumstance.
> > > John Lennon in 'Bring On The Lucie" sang
> > >
> > > "...You'd better bear this thought in mind:
> > > Your time is up,
> > > You'd better know it -
> > > But maybe you don't read The Signs"
> > >
> > > A false eschatology has emerged around the creation of Israel in 1948 ensuring salvation by quasi-scriptural Rapture invention, an inferior interpretation that would not allow for Remembrance of the Ascension as 'being caught up in the air with' Jesus, instead expecting a globally-visible recognizable floating Christ form that enables the professed faithful to levitate into the upper stratosphere. Lennon should have perceived the 1967 Six-Day War whereby Israel regained Jerusalem as the more pivotal event, whether he was aware of the Revelation correlation with Daniel's Seventy Weeks prophecy as coinciding with his declared multi-year schedule for the group. Harrison hinted the group had cast boulders into the waters, with the inevitable tidal wave level ripples yet to ensue.
> > >
> > > The earliest Apocalypse was a dream of Henoch, with human generations depicted by animals with symbolic overtones, canonical in a language older than Hebrew; its prophecies fulfilled included reference to the three sons of Constantine, proceeding into the Holocaust, whose aftermath features a group of lambs crying out without being comprehended by blind sheep; then one Ram opening its eyes to genuinely perceive grows a horn representing Faith, which all the faithless others attempt to break.
> > >
> > > The Beatles' Remembrance of Jesus has masterfully accomplished across various genres into tantalizing song entities, there is a sublime quality to how the precise messages are articulated within the instrumentally and vocally realized musicology, with a combination of solid theological foundation and modern mischievous whimsy. One example does not provide the entire picture, the aggregation gives a sense of proceeding to a succession of climaxes.
> > >
> > > When they received their MBE medals, George Harrison joked it could stand for "Mister Brian Epstein." Whatever his professional flaws in their management, Epstein believed in them when they needed that support, and facilitated the success that had eluded them. Yet the audition with George Martin was headed for rejection, until Harrison broke the ice by commenting on his tie.
> > >
> > > * Corinth & Ephesus In Perplexity Debases Venus In Their Mutual Rapport *
> > >
> > > The prophecy allows clarification before activation: the 2 February 2023 Venusian Lunar Grand Trine has a reprise 3 June 2023, substituting Neptune for the South Node; the 27 April 2023 1:40 am CEST Neptune lunar trine for Geneva suggested the mixing stage in the same Cupbearer with inclusion of New Mars, the chart implying three Pediments, two overlapping with Venus sextile Vertex (involving the Chiron-Fortune opposition), and Neptune-Juno-Moon. This is eschatology and prophetic interpretation on an unprecedented level, which infers some negative energy being infused for the Neptune lunar trine aspect, which is part of the 3 June 2023 Grand Trine.
> > >
> > > Resetting the hagiological references, 3 June has feasts for the widow and virgin of VIII.80, in Saints Clotilde and Paula, respectively; also for Saint Morand (died 1115), patron of wine-makers, for having sustained himself one Lent on a bunch of grapes.
> > >
> > > Saint Saturnina of Arras has a 4 June feast, as a likely fictional German virgin-martyr in Arras, France - and the patron of wine merchants. The name 'Saturnina' could be implied by the cryptic Saturnin term, indicating that day, despite the coincidence of Saturn having risen for the projected fateful Chalice debasement.
> > >
> > > Saint Austrebertus was Vienne bishop from 726 until his death in 742, with feast on 5 June.
> > >
> > > For 6 June, Blessed William Greenwood has an additional memorial to 4 May as a Carthusian martyr, arrested at the London Charterhouse for opposing policies of Henry VIII, starved to death 6 June 1537 at Newgate Prison.
> > >
> > > A plausible Lombardy V.42 reference candidate also has the 6 June feast: Saint Eustorgius II, bishop of Milan from 512; he spent heavily to ransom Christians abducted by barbarians, and died in 518 of natural causes.
> > >
> > > The solution for 'Saturne d'or' from IX.44 could be nothing to do with Midheaven, if meant to indicate a pre-cataclysmic condition for Geneva on the 3 June 2023 schedule.
> > >
> > > The daily recurrence of Saturn at the East Point has a quirk on the 3 June 2023 instance at 1:26 am CEST, since there will be a non-repeating dramatic opposition with Fortune:
> > >
> > > Saturn 7 degrees 1 minutes Pisces /
> > > East Point 7 degrees 5 minutes Pisces
> > > -opposed by-
> > > Fortune 6 degrees 3 minutes Virgo
> > >
> > > Perhaps the auspicious inference of Fortune is being rendered as the 'golden' influence for Saturn at that daily juncture, as ironic prelude to its fateful rising: this could also be a 'good omen' involving Fortune from II.66, prior to a city being besieged.
> > >
> > > The basic definition of perplexity is an intertwining, describing the interacting trio necessary for a Grand Trine, which is being called esoterically a Cup or Chalice.
> > >
> > > The Venusian Lunar trine of 2 February 2023 had Venus under 8 degrees Pisces, and the South Node near 8.5 degrees Taurus, so the Cancer Moon had its official trine aspect with Venus first.
> > >
> > > In the 3 June 2023 Venusian Lunar Trine, Venus loses the competition for lunar favor to Neptune by a mere five minutes of a degree -
> > >
> > > And to put a spotlight on the Neptunian victory, its primary Scorpio lunar trine coincides with Neptune reaching the East Point, as though it had crossed the finish line in a marathon. This is what seems to trigger the incident, with Saturn already risen, but Neptune arriving quickly on the horizon as an Ambassador of the Venusian Chalice.
> > >
> > > The Vertex at that point around 28 degrees Virgo also forms the Crest of a Pediment with Venus and the Moon, peaking around 2:38 am CEST.
> > >
> > > Venus, apparently recalling her glory in the 2 February 2023 case, is debased by being demoted to the secondary lunar trine in the Chalice of Perplexity, with her failure celebrated by the Vertex signifying downfall, also occurring in tandem with the ongoing Sacrifice in the wake of the cataclysmic onset.
> > >
> > > Venus as Mystery Babylon (demonstrated Friday 9 September 2022 at its lunar opposition) should be the High-Born figure of II.92, perhaps with the identifying word 'Harlot' missing as previously conjectured. The minor variations in location that determine the primary and secondary lunar trines within a Grand Trine configuration are not discernible except by obtaining numerical data, however this sequence has synchronized signs: Neptune meeting the East Point at its primary lunar trine; and the Vertex dropping at the Descendant for the secondary lunar trine with Venus.
> > >
> > > If the Great Mercury of X.79 means ascending for Geneva, that occurs 3 June 2023 4:38 am CEST, associated with trembling.
> > >
> > > The Saturnins enduring the worst should be the four minutes prior to Neptune rising, in the wake of cataclysmic onset, signifying a localized catastrophic phase.
> > Unfortunate news from India has again proven the relevance of the French seer's contribution, clarified through my own timely interpretation: but before making the requisite elaborations, my thoughts are traveling back to the days of the US South expressing indignation over religious views they did not comprehend, and how they publicly imposed their inferior opinions.
> >
> > When the effort to boycott The Beatles was gaining momentum, a radio station in Longview, Texas, announcing a bonfire of their records as an event was struck by a bolt of lightning that knocked their news director unconscious, and damaged equipment. People forget the Higher Powers have their own opinions.
> >
> > When a clergy member threatened all concertgoers with excommunication, The Beatles were determined to proceed with the show anyway. Yet serendipity removed the stressful situation: the concert was outdoors, and rain ensued, causing the guitarists to receive electric shocks, so the performance had to be cancelled.
> >
> > Innocent Blood At Widow & Virgin; Mercurial Chalice With Saturnins At Lombardy
> > [6 June 2023 8:07pm CEST / 2:07 pm EDT / 11:07 am PDT]
> >
> > The expectation of innocent bloodshed at the 3 June 2023 date determined for the widow and virgin of VIII.80 (as feast for Saints Clotilde and Paula, respectively) has sadly been realized in the train derailment occurring in India, at Balasore in eastern Odisha state. The death toll has reached 288 with over a thousand injured. The collision included two passenger trains and a freight train, with traffic signaling failure in preliminary consideration for the cause. While this tragic incident happened 6:50 pm local time on 2 June 2023, the horrific aftermath is consuming the following day as foretold.
> >
> > The derailment chart shows Neptune set at the Nadir, before the Moon moved into position for its Grand Trine with Venus. There is an implied association of the India train derailment with the ominously anticipated Venusian Cup appearing 3 June 2023 2:46 am CEST, which locally occurred 3 June 6:15 am IST.
> >
> > It now appears the Cup mixed doubly for Venus means there will be a second Chalice that will be tried soon for the Geneva event itself. Another feast on 3 June for Saint Morand, patron of wine-makers, puts wine on the table to be spilled for VII.5.
> >
> > The Moon enters Sagittarius 3 June 2023 7:04 am CEST, leaving the Scorpio Cupbearer constellation.
> >
> > Mercury first surpassing the Heavens planet (VI.70), then reaching Vesta (X.6) over the next few days presents timing factors.
> >
> > The seer has incorporated conceptual points and given the Geneva location, so those local charts should be animated to observe the precise movements. The prophecies summarize features to watch for, yet it is only by running an astrology program that relevant intricacies of the cosmic dance can be revealed.
> >
> > The Full Moon occurs 4 June 2023 5:42 am CEST, which could be the generic 'Sol et Lune' from V.66; Mercury conjoins Ouranos later that day at 9:38 pm CEST, for the surpassing of The Heavens in VI.70.
> >
> > Venus enters Leo 5 June 2023 3:47 pm CEST, arriving in the constellation where the New Mars is residing, which could establish the 'false rapport' of X.28, since Mars currently represents vengeance against Venus herself.
> >
> > For 6 June 2023 using Geneva coordinates and CEST:
> >
> > 7:30 pm - Vertex trine Saturn - this is a daily-recurring condition associated with the Candleflame theory (however the South Node implications are being discarded);
> >
> > 8:07 pm - Fortune trine Saturn - this is an isolated occurrence, coincidentally following the Vertex-Saturn trine, so the two trine aspects in successive combination could be construed as 'The Saturnins' -
> >
> > There is a synchronized Mercurial Lunar Grand Trine, which could constitute the Great Mercury of X.79 -
> >
> > Moon 21 degrees 5 minutes Capricorn /
> > Midheaven 22 degrees 8 minutes Virgo /
> > Mercury 22 degrees 59 minutes Taurus &
> > Vesta 23 degrees 9 minutes Taurus
> >
> > - this would be the critical time, perhaps the trying of the Chalice in VI.89 -
> >
> > << 6 June 2023 8:07 pm CEST / 2:07 pm EDT / 11:07 am PDT >> -
> >
> > The prior Venus-Neptune Grand Trine simultaneously returns with the Ascendant taking the lunar role;
> >
> > 9:18 pm - Dusk causes Fortune to jump beneath the Ecliptic;
> >
> > 9:28 pm - Venus is conjoined by the Vertex, perhaps as the 'vitrix' celebration of V.18;
> >
> > 11:55 pm - Mercury conjoins Vesta, perhaps indicated by the 'Vesta sepulchral fire' of X.6.
> >
> > The 6 June date falls on the feast of Saint Eustorgius II, bishop of Milan from 512 until his death in 518, thereby providing a Lombard connection, as in V.42 and VI.16.
> The way John Lennon spoke about his group's records being physically burned suggested that even before meeting Yoko Ono and meditating with a guru he comprehended the concept of Karma, that manifesting hateful destruction can create negative energy. The listener naturally presumes Lennon singing "In My Life" is indulging in personal retrospection, while it seems more a projection of Christ looking back during His final prayers in the 'Garden of Gethsemane,' whose instrumental phrasing appears subliminally performed as a variation after repetitions in the coda of "The Word," not recurring due to the fade.
>
> Lennon's opinion that the Apostles ostensibly failed Jesus was central to the 'Agony In The Garden' subtext to the late 1965 album. When McCartney added fuzz bass to Harrison's "Think For Yourself," the final articulation implies,
>
> 'In The Garden,
> In The Garden -
>
> They Took A Nap While
> IN THE GARDEN!'
>
> The format follows the gospels, with the trio of closest Apostles succumbing to slumber - and a mysterious angel appears to strengthen Christ's resolve, brought out in "I'm Looking Through You":
>
> "Why, tell me why, did you not treat me right?"
>
> [Pray-er]
>
> "Love has a nasty habit of disappearing overnight."
>
> Jesus asked them to pray, yet the low-energy Apostles slept instead.
>
> The two staccato notes on keyboard imply,
>
> 'STRENGTH-
> ENED!'
>
> - with another thought appended. The prominent notes alternating with a lyrical couplet tells the story:
>
> "You're thinking of me
> The same old way"
>
> ['An Angel Came -']
>
> 'You were above me,
> But not today"
>
> ['And Strengthened Him']
>
> With the timely failure of the Apostles at the forefront of Lennon's mind, it was no surprise that some of his well-considered theological opinions were shared with a friend who happened to be a journalist.
>
> * Lunar Chalice Of Vestal Great Mercury With Fortune's Venusian False Rapport For Saturnins At Lombardy *
> [7 June 2:03 am CEST / 6 June 2023 8:03 pm EDT, 5:03 pm PDT]
> The seer has incorporated conceptual points and given the Geneva location, so those local charts should be animated to observe the precise movements.. The prophecies summarize features to watch for, yet it is only by running an astrology program that relevant intricacies of the cosmic dance can be revealed.
>
> The Full Moon occurs 4 June 2023 5:42 am CEST, which could be the generic 'Sol et Lune' from V.66; Mercury conjoins Ouranos later that day at 9:38 pm CEST, for the surpassing of The Heavens in VI.70.
> Venus entered Leo 5 June 2023 3:47 pm CEST.
> The 6 June date falls on the feast of Saint Eustorgius II, bishop of Milan from 512 until his death in 518, thereby providing a Lombard connection, as in V.42 and VI.16.
> The Vendome reference seems to be for 3 June 1594, the birthdate of Duke Cesar of Vendome, thus signifying the 2023 date for the Corinth-Ephesus-Babylonian Cup of Perplexity. Cesar was the first son of King Henry IV, however with mistress Gabrielle d'Estrees and therefore illegitimate, and unable to inherit the throne, plausibly relating to the 'high put low' phrasing. His half-brother whose mother was Marie de'Medici, was legitimate, so despite his being born later in 1601, the younger son of Henry IV would reign as heir to the throne Louis XIII instead, for the 'low put high.'
>
> So the House of Lorraine flooding event from X.50 would be set at 11 June 2023, for the 1560 date of death for Mary of Lorraine, with the modern coincidence of Mercury leaving the Taurus constellation as the populous Great Urn 11 June 2023 12:33 pm CEST.
>
> The June Sixth date has its obvious World War Two anniversary with the D-Day invasion, which could involve the various conflict and siege metaphoric lines.
>
> The double mixing concept for the Revelation Fall of Babylon catastrophe suggests the Cup Venus mixed for herself on 2 February 2023 (Lunar Grand Trine with the South Node) somehow precipitated the massive fatalities of the 6 February 2023 sibling quakes at the Turkey-Syria border: the Indian train collision-derailments of 2 June 2023 had its corollary in the comparatively benign 1 February 2023 magnitude 6 quake striking New Bataan, also hours before the Moon moved into the Grand Trine configuration with Venus and the South Node; the post-Cup event should be the Chalice involving the Moon and Mercury-Vesta, with the foretold death toll in the millions, suggesting the population of Geneva, due to a cataclysm involving the LHC.
>
> While the coincidence of two conceptual trines with Saturn presented another dubious case, the inclusion of Midheaven in the Chalice formation obviously went against the Vertex-vitrix theory from V.18: designating the Chalice of VI.89 as a Lunar Grand Trine with Mercury-Vesta and the Vertex instead brings the focus to an entirely new chart sequence.
>
> The two vestals, Vesta and Mercury, conjoin around midnight CEST into 7 June 2023, whereas their August 2022 opposition was a subject in IV.95. For 7 June 2023 using Geneva coordinates and CEST:
>
> 1:46 am - Saturn rises locally, for a simple meaning of 'Saturnin' - at this point only the Moon, Pluto and Ceres are above the Ecliptic;
>
> 1:54 am - Venus conjunct Fortune;
>
> 2:03 am - Lunar Grand Trine with the Vertex and Mercury-Vesta as the Chalice of VI.89, and Great Mercury of X.79, presenting the critical time -
>
> << 7 June 2023 2:03 am CEST / 6 June 2023 8:03 pm EDT / 5:03 pm PDT >> -
>
> Mercury 23 degrees 20 minutes Taurus /
> Vesta 23 degrees 16 minutes Taurus;
> Moon 24 degrees 43 minutes Capricorn; &
> Vertex 23 degrees 51 minutes Virgo
>
> The false rapport with Venus of X.28 then potentially presents itself by Fortune appearing to briefly complete a nearly equidistant alignment with Venus in Leo, that is not realized by placements of the celestial bodies themselves -
>
> Venus 1 degree 20 minutes;
> (Fortune 5 degrees 36 minutes);
> Mars 10 degrees 1 minute; &
> Pallas 15 degrees 1 minute
>
> So without the placement of Fortune at the peak of the Mercurial Lunar Grand Trine with the Vertex, there would be no indication of an alignment with Venus.
>
> Further derived dates for future scheduling in 2023:
>
> 20 June - Third Secret of Fatima papal ambush, as described in V.22 ('Perugia at Pisa' in VII.5);
>
> 21 June - possible date the Miracle at Garabandal may be seen , at feast of Neo-Martyr Saint Niketas of Rhodes (V.16);
>
> 11 July - Great Red of VIII.80 as metaphor for Mars-Pallas conjunct in trine with the Moon at the Node; also matches hint from VIII.8 for the feast of Saint Sabinus while the Moon is in Taurus as foretold.
>
> There could be conflict with Iran in August from prior issues, according to IV.95; this would be escalating into late October when the conditions of IX.55 arise. However mid-October 2023 suggests institution of a totalitarian regime that allows no resistance, with a Mars reign close to a Narbonne saint feast for IX.64.

On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 1:32:36 PM UTC-7, Curtis Eagal wrote:
> On Saturday, June 3, 2023 at 9:13:52 AM UTC-7, Curtis Eagal wrote:
> > On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 9:51:05 AM UTC-7, Curtis Eagal wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, May 31, 2023 at 3:25:31 AM UTC-7, Curtis Eagal wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, May 30, 2023 at 1:18:08 PM UTC-7, Curtis Eagal wrote:
> > > > > On Monday, May 29, 2023 at 4:56:40 PM UTC-7, Curtis Eagal wrote:
> > > > > > On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 7:03:28 PM UTC-7, geoff wrote:
> > > > > > > On 28/05/2023 12:13 am, Famous Amos wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Saturday, March 25, 2023 at 3:29:25 PM UTC-4, Curtis Eagal wrote:
> > > > > > > >> Bob Eubanks recently recalled how manager Brian Epstein limited the famous group's earning potential by insisting the maximum price for a ticket to a Beatles' concert would be seven dollars. Also there was nothing else for fans to purchase, since attempts to relitigate an unfavorable merchandising deal ruined the production-distribution chain, and the band members were sickened to learn how much income they had lost by that source.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> There was a harrowing incident when they toured Manila: a public relations nightmare ensued when they were cast as national villains for not attending a state function televised live; the group conferring decided Epstein was ultimately responsible for the scheduling debacle and ensuing ordeal, in a collective terse expletive.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> *
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Tornadoes Of 24 March Attributable To Bologna (IX.13)
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> From 4 March 2023:
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> https://groups.google.com/g/alt.prophecies.nostradamus/c/w360JNUDgjU/m/bSo9J79wAQAJ
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> << Two of Modena truculent for Bologna,
> > > > > > > >> Set discovered through the fire of Buzancais
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> The interpretation should be focused on hagiology, rather than geography, since timing is thusly frequently obscured.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Buzancais was known for a food riot in 1847, with half-starved peasants intercepting grain carts, ultimately suppressed by three rioters being guillotined, after a local elite retaliating with gunfire being beaten to death by the mob caused the remainder to cower. Instead the date of 9 January is inferred via feast for Saint Honorius of Buzancais (d. 1250), a cattle merchant who financially assisted young girls, but was ultimately killed by thieves he had reprimanded.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> January Ninth 2023 was the day about 1200 insurrectionists were arrested in Brasilia, however the fire in IX.13 may have been supplied by an X1.9-class solar flare from an active sunspot (AR3184) facing Earth that day, causing radio blackouts for parts of South America; the same sunspot was responsible for an X1.2-class solar flare 5 January 2023 (day of the funeral for Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI) - an X2 solar flare is four times more powerful than an M5 flare.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Line 3 employs a subtle trick for the 'Two of Modena': the town's patron is Saint Geminiano (312-397), whose name suggests the Gemini twins; although the citizens of Modena overwhelmingly wanted Geminiano for their bishop, he felt unworthy and fled - he had to be found and persuaded.. Renowned as an exorcist, Geminiano performed this service successfully for the daughter of Emperor Jovian. In Modena on his 31 January feast there is a special Mass, and his crypt is opened to public view. When Attila the Hun threatened to invade Modena in 452, Geminiano was invoked for protection, and a thick fog conveniently blanketed the city so it was safely bypassed.. January 31 2023 was the gap-day between the Three Holy Hierarchs including Basil the Great of 30 January (V.83, VI.78), and the predominantly German thunderstorm with two tornadoes on 1 February 2023. Thus the harsh (or truculent) storm razing a pine forest in northern Germany was indicated as precursor for a later event associated with a Bologna date. >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Tornadoes in the southern US on 24 March 2023 have caused about two dozen fatalities; hagiological research had been done designating Saint John del Bastone with a 24 March feast and association with Bologna for the IX.13 allusion.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/25/weather/us-severe-storms-saturday/index.html
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Two episodes of cyclonic activity derived as dual subjects, in different places at different times, makes the fulfillment dramatic.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> https://tech.hindustantimes.com/tech/news/sun-hurls-out-cme-towards-earth-g1-class-geomagnetic-storm-to-hit-soonuntitled-story-71679283288194.html
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> The open-ended astrological hints for the cataclysmic onset in Geneva appear to coalesce for late March 2023; the Saturnin reign and cycles from I.54 line 2 have transpired, and the hagiology cannot be easily re-evaluated, but several quatrains have presented recent fulfillments suggesting imminent inevitability.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> There are two close sustained trines that could be used for transforming into a Grand Trine with the Vertex (V.18): Ceres with Pluto, leading to the 9:40 pm CEST general time daily, without much potential for the proper dynamics; and Saturn with Mars, which could provide the Sword element for IX.44, after the 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET Saturnin Grand Trine with solar proximity for the Golden factor.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> The Saturn-Mars-Vertex Grand Trine for Geneva recurs daily in late March 2023 at a time that also brings Venus into conjunction with the East Point. The Cupbearer falsifies as VI.89 says, until the Chalice is tried with the activating conditions.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> From V.66 the time after the 21 March 2023 New Moon was indicated, implying a limit at the Half Moon 29 March 4:31 am CEST.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> A pivotal aspect is Mercury conjoining Jupiter as the striking of the High-Born from II.92 28 March 2023 8:42 am CEST - this provides a rival conjunction diminishing the established claim Venus has on the recurring Grand Trine.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Looking back, the prior lunar conjunct was with Ouranos 25 March 2023 12:51 am CET, as VI.70 expresses the noise and light surpassing the Heavens, occurring before the next celestial body is reached.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> And the prior lunar aspect was a square with Neptune 28 March 2023 3:39 am CEST, for the perplexity between Corinth and Ephesus in III.3.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> The spot occupied by the rapidly-shifting Vertex to form the Grand Trine with Saturn and Mars is about two degrees into Scorpio, fulfilling the final line of V.42 by suggesting a point 'under the Balance,' or beneath the Libran constellation, bringing the Grand Trine together as combined points.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> For 28 March 2023 using Geneva coordinates and CEST:
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> 3:39 am - Neptune lunar square (III.3);
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> 8:42 am - Mercury-Jupiter conjunct, Jupiter as High-Born of II.92;
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> 10:00 am - Saturnin Grand Trine with Mars and the Vertex - Venus debased at the East Point, upstaged by the Mercury-Jupiter conjunction, critical time -
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> << 28 March 2023 10 am CEST / 4 am EDT / 1 am PDT >>;
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> 10:02 am - Ceres lunar square (ends III.3 condition);
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> 3:19 pm - Mars lunar conjunct - 'The New Mars for vengeance and remorse' (I.94);
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Mercury proceeds to make its next planetary conjunction with Vesta 30 March 2023 4:03 pm CEST, corresponding with the X.6 line -
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> 'Vesta - sepulchral extinguishing fire to appear'
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> For the Lady honored through force of terror in I.94, there is Blessed Agnes of Chatillon with feast on 28 March, and an additional memorial on 29 March in the Cisterian order; Agnes served as sub-prioress in the monastery of Beaupre, Belgium, circa 1200. She was a visionary with a particular devotion to the Eucharist, falling into ecstasy frequently after partaking Communion. The extension into the adjacent day with the extra memorial could be what is inferred from the 'New Mars' lunar conjunct date of 28 March 2023.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> The Saturn trine with Mars that is foundational for the Chalice officially occurs 30 March 2023 8:15 pm CEST, a date with plausibly relevant hagiology.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Saint Secundus of Asti has the 30 March feast, a Roman soldier of the Patrician class, baptized as a Christian in Milan; when it was discovered he gave a Christian burial to a martyr he fled to Asti, but was ultimately found, tortured and beheaded circa 119. Milan is in the Lombard region for V.42 and VI.16.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> The first bishop of Civitas Silvanectium in Gaul was Saint Regulus (died 260), also having a 30 March feast (Gaul to tremble in X.58)..
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Another memorial on 30 March is for a group of martyrs in Greece circa 300 with Saint Domninus and others, including one named Victor (VI.70).
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > King Jom Un is top of the line
> > > > > > > > Putin is a genious and a friend of Mine
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > That woman is a whack-job I neva met her
> > > > > > > > The Sowdee Prince is a man I prefer
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I can do what I want with the dockyoumints
> > > > > > > > I unproven all actions of the Sowdee Prince!!!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Genious!! I am the Masta Of Windmills'!!!!!
> > > > > > > Is Curtis Eagal and Famous Amos in fact the same person ? Curious, as
> > > > > > > threads from Curtis mostly consist of him replying to his own bizarre
> > > > > > > rants. And FA similarly, but with a little interaction between the 'two'.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > geoff
> > > > > > I am not replying to myself, but demonstrating that although the major event is imminent the sequence had to be observed and analyzed, which is far too complex a notion to be conveyed in a single post, as if I knew everything at the outset, or remade my message every time - this is a refinement of something determined to be inevitable, drawing on the logic of a long yet unreported track record. The modern attention span is definitely diminishing, but the relevant sequence started 2 February 2023 with the all-day Venusian Grand Trine on feast of Saint Joan de Lestonnac, as solution for part of X.17, which was set at the Juno-Venus-Node conjunct of 21 March 2023 at the New Moon. These correlations with the astrology are specific to 2023, even if they are too subtle and cryptic to be communicated as anything but nonsense by the average person. I've had people say it's like Chinese to them. If this were common knowledge I would not feel obligated to provide the information. There have been numerous occasions where the conjectures have resulted in definite fulfillments, but since these have not been reported in media there is sustained yet baseless resistance to acknowledging the continuing effect of known prophecies being genuine into the current era, just as any theory regarding The Beatles would be culturally preferable to admitting they fed society back the story of Jesus without it being recognized.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It is not as if I believe fulfillment can convince anyone anymore, if that were the case it would have been with the exact date foretold for the Columbia shuttle disaster 16 months early, or the date for the Floyd death more recently, which was also pinpointed, in that case as a trigger for widespread anger, before it occurred.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Beatles labored ingeniously on a pop-culture version of the Christian story, only to have their fans project any other dark and sinister things onto their work, and regard inherently obvious solutions as some bizarre invasive idea, while consistent with all their remarks from interviews. Everything they created was like a piece of a puzzle, just like with Nostradamus: except while they regressively built a Remembrance of the Christian story, the French seer was encoding something like the Akashic records..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In the first few bars of "Lady Madonna" with the piano mimicking Fats Domino from "Badpenny Blues," there is the same theme as in "Back In The USSR":
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 'When He -
> > > > > > Was Thirteen'
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In the middle of the USSR solo, the guitar is played as if to emphatically convey,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > '...He - Left - Home -
> > > > > > At - Thir-teen...'
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The oddly bent note opening the White Album also sounds remarkably like,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 'TWELVE'
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The musical dream was for the subconscious, built into all the hooks and riffs, which is so consciously enjoyable the tendency is not to look past that pleasure.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > * Lovely Lethal Metal Maid *
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The conjunction of Vesta and Ouranos takes place about twenty-two minutes after the pair drops beneath the Ecliptic (30 May 2023 7:33 pm CEST), thereby aligning with the remark from V.65 that the lady on burning coals will no longer be in view, having recently set by the projected schedule.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Des principaux de l'affaire caches
> > > > > > Et dame en braise plus ne sera en vue
> > > > > >
> > > > > > With the principals of the affair hidden
> > > > > > And the lady on burning coals will no longer be in view
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The principal players in the 'Saturnin Affair' are either conceptual (Vertex, Fortune, Ascendant, South Node) or beneath the Ecliptic (Saturn and Neptune), except for Venus herself; there is nothing special about the lunar appearance for being mid-way through Libra, waxing from a Half Moon. The theme of V.65 is that the Higher Powers allow the sudden terror, with the signs expressed subtly towards an overtly innocuous situation, gradually angered into withdrawing assistance that might otherwise be provided. While V.66 focused on the 20 April 2023 solar eclipse in line 4, the previous line may have shifted without fanfare to the recent Half Moon 27 May 2023.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Since 30 May is feast for Saint Joan of Arc, who was burned alive on that day in 1431, the references to a lady engulfed by flames in V.65 and VI.19 could work in tandem, except that a saint should probably not want to put Innocents to the fire, even if that was how their own martyrdom manifested. The 8 May 2023 4:48 pm CEST Vesta engulfment by Fortune identifying the Candle configuration as the True Flame, for later reiteration using the Vertex, could explain VI.19 without Saint Joan directly.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Because the Vesta-Ouranos coupling is part of the populous grouping in Taurus, and their merging is synchronized with the appearance of the Venusian-Neptunian Chalice, that could explain the betrayal originating from the Great Urn as the Taurean constellation in X.50, also inhabited by the Node, Jupiter, and Mercury.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Saint Maximus of Trier was born near Poitiers, and is depicted with a bear, for the 29 May feast, which could figure in line 3 of VIII.52 -
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ongle a Poitiers saintes ailes ruiner
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Claw at Poitiers, holy saints to ruin
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A Lombard connection with 30 May for V.42 exists via feast for Saint Anastasius II, who converted from the heresy of Arianism, which disputed the divinity of Christ by a Trinitarian comparison with the Creator-Father presumptive character.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Upon conversion, Anastasius was appointed Bishop of Pavia, Lombardy in 668, remaining so until his death in 680.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > While Geneva's Midheaven version of the Candle dual trine with Saturn and the South Node does not have an ominous Grand Trine 30 May 2023 3:22 pm CEST, when the configuration is consummated by the Saturn-Midheaven trine about twelve minutes later (3:34 pm CEST), the chart elements appears conspicuously orchestrated, with several independent conditions temporally coalescing:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Pallas in Leo lunar sextile at 11 degrees 45 minutes respectively;
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Solar Grand Trine with Fortune and the East Point - this is a very tight triangular form at the 8-degree point in the Air signs, with the East Point substituting for the nearby Ascendant as the pattern with Fortune is slipping out of phase for the Venusian false rapport.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This brief Solar Chalice at the conclusion of the Upright Candleflame configuration, synchronized with the Pallas lunar aspect, in context could fulfill the line from IV.58 about the burning Sun to be swallowed, considering the Venusian-Neptunian Chalice during the subsequent Vertex iteration of the Candle.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Saints Joan of Arc and Anastasius seemed featured for 30 May 2023; 31 May is feast for the Visitation, which appears skipped.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Saint Reverianus with 1 June feast was bishop of Autun, missionary to Gaul circa 273 by order of Emperor Aurelian he was beheaded, martyred with Saint Paulus and ten others; Gaul is to tremble in X.58.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Also for 1 June are concurrent feasts for Saints Felinus and Gratia of Perugia (martyrs circa 250), and Saint Peter of Pisa (1355-1435) - this is an unanticipated possibility for 'Perugia at Pisa' to solve VII.5. The name 'Gratia' could be hinted by the Ile de Graye specific island theme of V.16.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Again skipping a day, for 3 June there are two concurrent feasts that could be the meaning for the widow and virgin of VIII.80: Saint Clotilde (born 475, Lyons) was Queen of the Franks, married to King Clovis, whose death made her a widow - she died at Tours in 548; and Saint Paula of Nicomedia was a consecrated virgin, tortured before being sent to Constantinople for beheading in 273.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Saint Joan of Arc was born on January Sixth 1412, at a small village near the province of Lorraine - this could be the reference in X.50, however not the House of Lorraine prophecy since that implies nobility. The natal coincidence with the date of the Capitol riot could prove esoterically significant.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In a vision at age thirteen, Joan was encouraged by entities she described as very beautiful, including the Archangel Michael, to drive the English from her country, then conduct the Dauphin to Reims for his coronation. The story has been adapted for film from the silent era, a compelling tale of visionary faith merging with militaristic nationalism, progressing towards a tragic conclusion. The Maid of Orleans, clad in armor as the standard-bearer for French Victory, became a prisoner of the English, attempting to break her as a symbol of the Faith that had defeated them. After being burned alive, such extreme efforts were taken to ensure no relic would survive for veneration, that an executioner expressed fear of his own damnation.
> > > > > > Lady honored by force of terror
> > > > > > This line in I.94 coupled with the New Mars concept suggests the ironic fiery cataclysm, in its timely recalling of Saint Joan suffering her horrific mortal fate, would in a sardonic fashion honor the manner of her death.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 'Lovely
> > > > > > Lethal
> > > > > > Metal
> > > > > > Maid'
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ...'Made her look a little like
> > > > > > A milit'ry man'
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [comb-and-paper, speeded up:]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 'Wore -
> > > > > > Men's
> > > > > > Clo-thing'
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 'Lovely Lethal,
> > > > > > Lovely Lethal
> > > > > >
> > > > > > MAID...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - Of
> > > > > > Orleans!'
> > > > > The songs of Sgt Pepper corresponding to saints, building towards Christ as the Saint of Saints in the finale, was one of several subliminal tangents explored. John Lennon explained things were thrown in together chaotically to create each song as a unique entity: so the Liddell sisters seated on a sofa photographed by Carroll seems referenced in a line; the "Lovely Rita" concept dovetails with the persona of Saint Joan of Arc; there is a storybook parallel with Cinderella; and the predominant theme, emerging in a transmutation of the refrain, cleverly returns to the gospel material (in a manner now withheld).
> > > > >
> > > > > They insisted they were thinking of bananas writing "She's Leaving Home"; and the request to producer George Martin for "Being For The Benefit of Mister Kite" was to 'make it sound like an orange.'
> > > > >
> > > > > Saturnins Under The Balance For Venusian Candle & Chalice At Great Mercury
> > > > >
> > > > > Looking at the remainder of the the lunar course in Libra, presuming that constellation is the New Cupbearer in perplexity with Pisces as the current location for Neptune, and the Balance concept in V.42 is parallel, the observed celestial movements suggest new correlations with the prophecies.
> > > > >
> > > > > The invented term 'Saturnins' would now mean two successive Grand Trines where Saturn appears close to the Midheaven point.
> > > > >
> > > > > The 'Vertex celebration' of V.18 may be found in an aftermath triple conjunction, so not relevant at the cataclysmic onset.
> > > > >
> > > > > The Candle configuration could apply to the false rapport of the weak trine between Venus and Neptune; and the Chalice could be a simultaneous Pediment formation, requiring only an extra pivotal point.
> > > > >
> > > > > If there is no access to an astrology program to animate the Geneva charts with local specificity, there are online ephemeris sources that can be used to verify the placements of celestial points.
> > > > >
> > > > > astro.com/swisseph/ae/2000/ae_2023.pdf
> > > > >
> > > > > The listing for Thursday 2 February 2023 shows Venus at 7 degrees 20 minutes Pisces; the Moon moving from 2 degrees Cancer; and the South Node at 8.5 degrees Scorpio - and Mars uninvolved around 10.5 degrees Gemini. This is the Venusian Grand Trine on the feast of Saint Joan de Lestonnac, with Mars in Gemini not Cancer.
> > > > >
> > > > > Listing Tuesday 21 March shows the Sun entering Aries, with the following from Pisces for the New Moon; Venus at 5 degrees Taurus, with the Node at 6 degrees - placing Juno there can be done with an ephemeris for minor bodies (link below).
> > > > >
> > > > > On Friday 17 March the Saturn (1 degree Pisces) sextile Venus aspect (zero degrees Taurus) is evident in the listing, however the inclusion of the intrusive Vertex forming the Pediment (I.54) requires the Geneva location for that calculation.
> > > > >
> > > > > The Thursday 27 April Neptune lunar trine can be discerned (Neptune 26 degrees 37 minutes Pisces, the Moon 26 degrees 26 minutes Cancer); also Venus at 18 degrees Gemini sextile Chiron at 17 degrees Aries - however the Vertex and Fortune are again not available to demonstrate the Double Pediment effect implying the esoteric mixing stage; notice also New Mars is then in Cancer at 16 degrees 49 minutes.
> > > > >
> > > > > A resource for the minor bodies is -
> > > > >
> > > > > cafeastrology.com/asteroid-ephemeris2023.html
> > > > >
> > > > > There the location of Vesta could be verified, combined with the other source to confirm conjunction of 30 May 2023 with Ouranos.
> > > > >
> > > > > It also shows Pallas was around 11.5 degrees Cancer on 2 February 2023; and it gives the position of Juno on 21 March as 5 degrees 25 minutes Taurus, for the Venus-Node-Juno triple conjunct subtly featured in X.17.
> > > > >
> > > > > For 31 May 2023 using Geneva coordinates and CEST:
> > > > >
> > > > > 7:24 am - Grand Trine of the South Node with the Ascendant and Midheaven - the Moon about two-thirds through its Libra transit, with Saturn at 6 degrees 57 minutes Pisces and Midheaven nearby at 3 degrees 40 minutes in the same sign;
> > > > >
> > > > > 7:53 am - Vertex in dual trine with Neptune and Venus as false rapport of X.28 -
> > > > >
> > > > > Venus 24 degrees 49 minutes Cancer;
> > > > > Vertex 25 degrees 42 minutes Scorpio; and
> > > > > Neptune 27 degrees 26 minutes Pisces
> > > > >
> > > > > This could also be the actual Candle of VI.35, since unchanged Saturn in that subsequent case is also close to Midheaven, then about 11.5 degrees Pisces;
> > > > >
> > > > > The Venus-Vertex trine simultaneously forms a Pediment with Ceres at 25 degrees 44 minutes Virgo, perhaps offering the Chalice of VI.89: so Venus receives both ominous symbols at the same time -
> > > > >
> > > > > And Mercury is then precisely at the fifteen-degree zero-minute midpoint of the Taurus constellation, for the Great Mercury of X.79, and perhaps the High-Born of II.92 (!);
> > > > >
> > > > > 9:25 pm - Venus, Fortune and the Vertex in a triple conjunction around 25.4 degrees Cancer, as the 'vitrix' of V.18 celebrating the Sacrifice.
> > > > >
> > > > > A normal Venusian Grand Trine with Neptune and Midheaven occurs 1 June 2023 12:36 am CEST, spanning from 25.5 to 27.5 degrees in the Water signs, with the Moon still not yet out of Libra.
> > > > >
> > > > > It is doubtful the Saturnin configuration at 7:24 am is anything but a common device (Saturn near Midheaven as 'with gold' in IX.44) to focus on the 7:53 am conditions, so the critical time should be -
> > > > >
> > > > > << 31 May 2023 7:53 am CEST / 1:53 am EDT / 30 May 2023 10:53 pm PDT >>
> > > > >
> > > > > These shifting parameters reflect my own evolving level of understanding, and the timely nature of this endeavor has been explained.
> > > > Any comments about lunatic ranting should be reflected back on the political frontrunner who advises trashing the Constitution, going into default, pardoning insurrectionists, declassifying documents by internal thought without alerting operatives, terminating government authorities who might conduct investigations on himself, etc. From what I can tell the tendency is to seek authoritarian rule from someone who is actually ranting like a lunatic or mobster: my esotericism is based in logic and personal experience, not tribalism and propaganda, so it is off-brand to both sides of the current culture wars.
> > > >
> > > > There is a major theoretical test upcoming on 3 June 2023: the ephemeris linked would show the Moon at 27 degrees 4 minutes Scorpio; Venus at 27 degrees 32 minutes Cancer; and Neptune at 27 degrees 29 minutes Pisces. Essentially it repeats the 2 February 2023 Venusian Lunar Grand Trine, with a notable substitution.
> > > >
> > > > Scorpio Cupbearer Perplexity With Neptune Debases Venusian Rapport [3 June 2023 2:42 am CEST]
> > > >
> > > > Reading 'Under the Balance' from V.42 as intending Scorpio instead of Libra as New Cupbearer offers an intriguing possibility: the Scorpio Moon will form a sustained Grand Trine with Venus and Neptune during that interval, ominously reminiscent of the 2 February Venusian Lunar Grand Trine with the South Node.
> > > >
> > > > While Scorpio is technically a Water sign, the other two represent Fish and Crab which live in the sea, while the scorpion is a land creature whose relevant fluid is blood.
> > > >
> > > > The Neptune lunar trine occurs with Venus offset by five minutes of a degree, which is negligible, yet could establish the false rapport of X.28.
> > > >
> > > > For 3 June 2023 using Geneva coordinates and CEST:
> > > >
> > > > 2:04 am - Saturn rises locally at Ascendant;
> > > >
> > > > 2:42 am - Neptune lunar trine (27 degrees 28 minutes) within Grand Trine including Venus (27 degrees 33 minutes Cancer) - this would be the critical time -
> > > >
> > > > << 3 June 2023 2:42 am CEST / 2 June 2023 8:42 pm EDT, 5:42 pm PDT >>;
> > > >
> > > > 2:46 am - Neptune at Ascendant;
> > > >
> > > > 2:50 am - Venus lunar trine (within Grand Trine with Neptune), coinciding with the Vertex falling at the Descendant.
> > > >
> > > > Saturn would have been the last celestial body to rise, with Neptune not quite at the Ascendant, which could explain the Saturnins term, although not the 'd'or' golden remark from IX.44.
> > > >
> > > > Mercury is then in an alignment, set to conjoin Ouranos 4 June 2023 9:38 pm CEST (20 degrees 24 minutes Taurus), then Vesta 6 June 2023 11:55 pm CEST. This is not the dynamic situation expected for the Great Mercury of X.79, just as the Vertex participation by merely descending timely seems anticlimactic for V.18.
> > > >
> > > > The Neptune-Moon perplexity within the Venusian Grand Trine (i.e., Chalice or Cup) is an overtly stated feature consistent with the Cupbearer theory: the Scorpio Moon bears the Cup because it partially composes it, without its being in Scorpio the triangular configuration with Venus and Neptune could not occur.
> > > >
> > > > The Neptune lunar trine has the Corinth-Ephesus perplexity with the circumstance of Venus being ostensibly included, yet also creates a perfect aspect that conspicuously excludes Venus only slightly.
> > > >
> > > > There are many other Grand Trine configurations during the Scorpio lunar transit, however the theme of a Venusian Lunar Grand Trine is being significantly repeated, substituting Neptune for the South Node from the 2 February 2023 circumstance.
> > > John Lennon in 'Bring On The Lucie" sang
> > >
> > > "...You'd better bear this thought in mind:
> > > Your time is up,
> > > You'd better know it -
> > > But maybe you don't read The Signs"
> > >
> > > A false eschatology has emerged around the creation of Israel in 1948 ensuring salvation by quasi-scriptural Rapture invention, an inferior interpretation that would not allow for Remembrance of the Ascension as 'being caught up in the air with' Jesus, instead expecting a globally-visible recognizable floating Christ form that enables the professed faithful to levitate into the upper stratosphere. Lennon should have perceived the 1967 Six-Day War whereby Israel regained Jerusalem as the more pivotal event, whether he was aware of the Revelation correlation with Daniel's Seventy Weeks prophecy as coinciding with his declared multi-year schedule for the group. Harrison hinted the group had cast boulders into the waters, with the inevitable tidal wave level ripples yet to ensue.
> > >
> > > The earliest Apocalypse was a dream of Henoch, with human generations depicted by animals with symbolic overtones, canonical in a language older than Hebrew; its prophecies fulfilled included reference to the three sons of Constantine, proceeding into the Holocaust, whose aftermath features a group of lambs crying out without being comprehended by blind sheep; then one Ram opening its eyes to genuinely perceive grows a horn representing Faith, which all the faithless others attempt to break.
> > >
> > > The Beatles' Remembrance of Jesus has masterfully accomplished across various genres into tantalizing song entities, there is a sublime quality to how the precise messages are articulated within the instrumentally and vocally realized musicology, with a combination of solid theological foundation and modern mischievous whimsy. One example does not provide the entire picture, the aggregation gives a sense of proceeding to a succession of climaxes.
> > >
> > > When they received their MBE medals, George Harrison joked it could stand for "Mister Brian Epstein." Whatever his professional flaws in their management, Epstein believed in them when they needed that support, and facilitated the success that had eluded them. Yet the audition with George Martin was headed for rejection, until Harrison broke the ice by commenting on his tie.
> > >
> > > * Corinth & Ephesus In Perplexity Debases Venus In Their Mutual Rapport *
> > >
> > > The prophecy allows clarification before activation: the 2 February 2023 Venusian Lunar Grand Trine has a reprise 3 June 2023, substituting Neptune for the South Node; the 27 April 2023 1:40 am CEST Neptune lunar trine for Geneva suggested the mixing stage in the same Cupbearer with inclusion of New Mars, the chart implying three Pediments, two overlapping with Venus sextile Vertex (involving the Chiron-Fortune opposition), and Neptune-Juno-Moon. This is eschatology and prophetic interpretation on an unprecedented level, which infers some negative energy being infused for the Neptune lunar trine aspect, which is part of the 3 June 2023 Grand Trine.
> > >
> > > Resetting the hagiological references, 3 June has feasts for the widow and virgin of VIII.80, in Saints Clotilde and Paula, respectively; also for Saint Morand (died 1115), patron of wine-makers, for having sustained himself one Lent on a bunch of grapes.
> > >
> > > Saint Saturnina of Arras has a 4 June feast, as a likely fictional German virgin-martyr in Arras, France - and the patron of wine merchants. The name 'Saturnina' could be implied by the cryptic Saturnin term, indicating that day, despite the coincidence of Saturn having risen for the projected fateful Chalice debasement.
> > >
> > > Saint Austrebertus was Vienne bishop from 726 until his death in 742, with feast on 5 June.
> > >
> > > For 6 June, Blessed William Greenwood has an additional memorial to 4 May as a Carthusian martyr, arrested at the London Charterhouse for opposing policies of Henry VIII, starved to death 6 June 1537 at Newgate Prison.
> > >
> > > A plausible Lombardy V.42 reference candidate also has the 6 June feast: Saint Eustorgius II, bishop of Milan from 512; he spent heavily to ransom Christians abducted by barbarians, and died in 518 of natural causes.
> > >
> > > The solution for 'Saturne d'or' from IX.44 could be nothing to do with Midheaven, if meant to indicate a pre-cataclysmic condition for Geneva on the 3 June 2023 schedule.
> > >
> > > The daily recurrence of Saturn at the East Point has a quirk on the 3 June 2023 instance at 1:26 am CEST, since there will be a non-repeating dramatic opposition with Fortune:
> > >
> > > Saturn 7 degrees 1 minutes Pisces /
> > > East Point 7 degrees 5 minutes Pisces
> > > -opposed by-
> > > Fortune 6 degrees 3 minutes Virgo
> > >
> > > Perhaps the auspicious inference of Fortune is being rendered as the 'golden' influence for Saturn at that daily juncture, as ironic prelude to its fateful rising: this could also be a 'good omen' involving Fortune from II.66, prior to a city being besieged.
> > >
> > > The basic definition of perplexity is an intertwining, describing the interacting trio necessary for a Grand Trine, which is being called esoterically a Cup or Chalice.
> > >
> > > The Venusian Lunar trine of 2 February 2023 had Venus under 8 degrees Pisces, and the South Node near 8.5 degrees Taurus, so the Cancer Moon had its official trine aspect with Venus first.
> > >
> > > In the 3 June 2023 Venusian Lunar Trine, Venus loses the competition for lunar favor to Neptune by a mere five minutes of a degree -
> > >
> > > And to put a spotlight on the Neptunian victory, its primary Scorpio lunar trine coincides with Neptune reaching the East Point, as though it had crossed the finish line in a marathon. This is what seems to trigger the incident, with Saturn already risen, but Neptune arriving quickly on the horizon as an Ambassador of the Venusian Chalice.
> > >
> > > The Vertex at that point around 28 degrees Virgo also forms the Crest of a Pediment with Venus and the Moon, peaking around 2:38 am CEST.
> > >
> > > Venus, apparently recalling her glory in the 2 February 2023 case, is debased by being demoted to the secondary lunar trine in the Chalice of Perplexity, with her failure celebrated by the Vertex signifying downfall, also occurring in tandem with the ongoing Sacrifice in the wake of the cataclysmic onset.
> > >
> > > Venus as Mystery Babylon (demonstrated Friday 9 September 2022 at its lunar opposition) should be the High-Born figure of II.92, perhaps with the identifying word 'Harlot' missing as previously conjectured. The minor variations in location that determine the primary and secondary lunar trines within a Grand Trine configuration are not discernible except by obtaining numerical data, however this sequence has synchronized signs: Neptune meeting the East Point at its primary lunar trine; and the Vertex dropping at the Descendant for the secondary lunar trine with Venus.
> > >
> > > If the Great Mercury of X.79 means ascending for Geneva, that occurs 3 June 2023 4:38 am CEST, associated with trembling.
> > >
> > > The Saturnins enduring the worst should be the four minutes prior to Neptune rising, in the wake of cataclysmic onset, signifying a localized catastrophic phase.
> > Unfortunate news from India has again proven the relevance of the French seer's contribution, clarified through my own timely interpretation: but before making the requisite elaborations, my thoughts are traveling back to the days of the US South expressing indignation over religious views they did not comprehend, and how they publicly imposed their inferior opinions.
> >
> > When the effort to boycott The Beatles was gaining momentum, a radio station in Longview, Texas, announcing a bonfire of their records as an event was struck by a bolt of lightning that knocked their news director unconscious, and damaged equipment. People forget the Higher Powers have their own opinions.
> >
> > When a clergy member threatened all concertgoers with excommunication, The Beatles were determined to proceed with the show anyway. Yet serendipity removed the stressful situation: the concert was outdoors, and rain ensued, causing the guitarists to receive electric shocks, so the performance had to be cancelled.
> >
> > Innocent Blood At Widow & Virgin; Mercurial Chalice With Saturnins At Lombardy
> > [6 June 2023 8:07pm CEST / 2:07 pm EDT / 11:07 am PDT]
> >
> > The expectation of innocent bloodshed at the 3 June 2023 date determined for the widow and virgin of VIII.80 (as feast for Saints Clotilde and Paula, respectively) has sadly been realized in the train derailment occurring in India, at Balasore in eastern Odisha state. The death toll has reached 288 with over a thousand injured. The collision included two passenger trains and a freight train, with traffic signaling failure in preliminary consideration for the cause. While this tragic incident happened 6:50 pm local time on 2 June 2023, the horrific aftermath is consuming the following day as foretold.
> >
> > The derailment chart shows Neptune set at the Nadir, before the Moon moved into position for its Grand Trine with Venus. There is an implied association of the India train derailment with the ominously anticipated Venusian Cup appearing 3 June 2023 2:46 am CEST, which locally occurred 3 June 6:15 am IST.
> >
> > It now appears the Cup mixed doubly for Venus means there will be a second Chalice that will be tried soon for the Geneva event itself. Another feast on 3 June for Saint Morand, patron of wine-makers, puts wine on the table to be spilled for VII.5.
> >
> > The Moon enters Sagittarius 3 June 2023 7:04 am CEST, leaving the Scorpio Cupbearer constellation.
> >
> > Mercury first surpassing the Heavens planet (VI.70), then reaching Vesta (X.6) over the next few days presents timing factors.
> >
> > The seer has incorporated conceptual points and given the Geneva location, so those local charts should be animated to observe the precise movements. The prophecies summarize features to watch for, yet it is only by running an astrology program that relevant intricacies of the cosmic dance can be revealed.
> >
> > The Full Moon occurs 4 June 2023 5:42 am CEST, which could be the generic 'Sol et Lune' from V.66; Mercury conjoins Ouranos later that day at 9:38 pm CEST, for the surpassing of The Heavens in VI.70.
> >
> > Venus enters Leo 5 June 2023 3:47 pm CEST, arriving in the constellation where the New Mars is residing, which could establish the 'false rapport' of X.28, since Mars currently represents vengeance against Venus herself.
> >
> > For 6 June 2023 using Geneva coordinates and CEST:
> >
> > 7:30 pm - Vertex trine Saturn - this is a daily-recurring condition associated with the Candleflame theory (however the South Node implications are being discarded);
> >
> > 8:07 pm - Fortune trine Saturn - this is an isolated occurrence, coincidentally following the Vertex-Saturn trine, so the two trine aspects in successive combination could be construed as 'The Saturnins' -
> >
> > There is a synchronized Mercurial Lunar Grand Trine, which could constitute the Great Mercury of X.79 -
> >
> > Moon 21 degrees 5 minutes Capricorn /
> > Midheaven 22 degrees 8 minutes Virgo /
> > Mercury 22 degrees 59 minutes Taurus &
> > Vesta 23 degrees 9 minutes Taurus
> >
> > - this would be the critical time, perhaps the trying of the Chalice in VI.89 -
> >
> > << 6 June 2023 8:07 pm CEST / 2:07 pm EDT / 11:07 am PDT >> -
> >
> > The prior Venus-Neptune Grand Trine simultaneously returns with the Ascendant taking the lunar role;
> >
> > 9:18 pm - Dusk causes Fortune to jump beneath the Ecliptic;
> >
> > 9:28 pm - Venus is conjoined by the Vertex, perhaps as the 'vitrix' celebration of V.18;
> >
> > 11:55 pm - Mercury conjoins Vesta, perhaps indicated by the 'Vesta sepulchral fire' of X.6.
> >
> > The 6 June date falls on the feast of Saint Eustorgius II, bishop of Milan from 512 until his death in 518, thereby providing a Lombard connection, as in V.42 and VI.16.
> The way John Lennon spoke about his group's records being physically burned suggested that even before meeting Yoko Ono and meditating with a guru he comprehended the concept of Karma, that manifesting hateful destruction can create negative energy. The listener naturally presumes Lennon singing "In My Life" is indulging in personal retrospection, while it seems more a projection of Christ looking back during His final prayers in the 'Garden of Gethsemane,' whose instrumental phrasing appears subliminally performed as a variation after repetitions in the coda of "The Word," not recurring due to the fade.
>
> Lennon's opinion that the Apostles ostensibly failed Jesus was central to the 'Agony In The Garden' subtext to the late 1965 album. When McCartney added fuzz bass to Harrison's "Think For Yourself," the final articulation implies,
>
> 'In The Garden,
> In The Garden -
>
> They Took A Nap While
> IN THE GARDEN!'
>
> The format follows the gospels, with the trio of closest Apostles succumbing to slumber - and a mysterious angel appears to strengthen Christ's resolve, brought out in "I'm Looking Through You":
>
> "Why, tell me why, did you not treat me right?"
>
> [Pray-er]
>
> "Love has a nasty habit of disappearing overnight."
>
> Jesus asked them to pray, yet the low-energy Apostles slept instead.
>
> The two staccato notes on keyboard imply,
>
> 'STRENGTH-
> ENED!'
>
> - with another thought appended. The prominent notes alternating with a lyrical couplet tells the story:
>
> "You're thinking of me
> The same old way"
>
> ['An Angel Came -']
>
> 'You were above me,
> But not today"
>
> ['And Strengthened Him']
>
> With the timely failure of the Apostles at the forefront of Lennon's mind, it was no surprise that some of his well-considered theological opinions were shared with a friend who happened to be a journalist.
>
> * Lunar Chalice Of Vestal Great Mercury With Fortune's Venusian False Rapport For Saturnins At Lombardy *
> [7 June 2:03 am CEST / 6 June 2023 8:03 pm EDT, 5:03 pm PDT]
> The seer has incorporated conceptual points and given the Geneva location, so those local charts should be animated to observe the precise movements.. The prophecies summarize features to watch for, yet it is only by running an astrology program that relevant intricacies of the cosmic dance can be revealed.
>
> The Full Moon occurs 4 June 2023 5:42 am CEST, which could be the generic 'Sol et Lune' from V.66; Mercury conjoins Ouranos later that day at 9:38 pm CEST, for the surpassing of The Heavens in VI.70.
> Venus entered Leo 5 June 2023 3:47 pm CEST.
> The 6 June date falls on the feast of Saint Eustorgius II, bishop of Milan from 512 until his death in 518, thereby providing a Lombard connection, as in V.42 and VI.16.
> The Vendome reference seems to be for 3 June 1594, the birthdate of Duke Cesar of Vendome, thus signifying the 2023 date for the Corinth-Ephesus-Babylonian Cup of Perplexity. Cesar was the first son of King Henry IV, however with mistress Gabrielle d'Estrees and therefore illegitimate, and unable to inherit the throne, plausibly relating to the 'high put low' phrasing. His half-brother whose mother was Marie de'Medici, was legitimate, so despite his being born later in 1601, the younger son of Henry IV would reign as heir to the throne Louis XIII instead, for the 'low put high.'
>
> So the House of Lorraine flooding event from X.50 would be set at 11 June 2023, for the 1560 date of death for Mary of Lorraine, with the modern coincidence of Mercury leaving the Taurus constellation as the populous Great Urn 11 June 2023 12:33 pm CEST.
>
> The June Sixth date has its obvious World War Two anniversary with the D-Day invasion, which could involve the various conflict and siege metaphoric lines.
>
> The double mixing concept for the Revelation Fall of Babylon catastrophe suggests the Cup Venus mixed for herself on 2 February 2023 (Lunar Grand Trine with the South Node) somehow precipitated the massive fatalities of the 6 February 2023 sibling quakes at the Turkey-Syria border: the Indian train collision-derailments of 2 June 2023 had its corollary in the comparatively benign 1 February 2023 magnitude 6 quake striking New Bataan, also hours before the Moon moved into the Grand Trine configuration with Venus and the South Node; the post-Cup event should be the Chalice involving the Moon and Mercury-Vesta, with the foretold death toll in the millions, suggesting the population of Geneva, due to a cataclysm involving the LHC.
>
> While the coincidence of two conceptual trines with Saturn presented another dubious case, the inclusion of Midheaven in the Chalice formation obviously went against the Vertex-vitrix theory from V.18: designating the Chalice of VI.89 as a Lunar Grand Trine with Mercury-Vesta and the Vertex instead brings the focus to an entirely new chart sequence.
>
> The two vestals, Vesta and Mercury, conjoin around midnight CEST into 7 June 2023, whereas their August 2022 opposition was a subject in IV.95. For 7 June 2023 using Geneva coordinates and CEST:
>
> 1:46 am - Saturn rises locally, for a simple meaning of 'Saturnin' - at this point only the Moon, Pluto and Ceres are above the Ecliptic;
>
> 1:54 am - Venus conjunct Fortune;
>
> 2:03 am - Lunar Grand Trine with the Vertex and Mercury-Vesta as the Chalice of VI.89, and Great Mercury of X.79, presenting the critical time -
>
> << 7 June 2023 2:03 am CEST / 6 June 2023 8:03 pm EDT / 5:03 pm PDT >> -
>
> Mercury 23 degrees 20 minutes Taurus /
> Vesta 23 degrees 16 minutes Taurus;
> Moon 24 degrees 43 minutes Capricorn; &
> Vertex 23 degrees 51 minutes Virgo
>
> The false rapport with Venus of X.28 then potentially presents itself by Fortune appearing to briefly complete a nearly equidistant alignment with Venus in Leo, that is not realized by placements of the celestial bodies themselves -
>
> Venus 1 degree 20 minutes;
> (Fortune 5 degrees 36 minutes);
> Mars 10 degrees 1 minute; &
> Pallas 15 degrees 1 minute
>
> So without the placement of Fortune at the peak of the Mercurial Lunar Grand Trine with the Vertex, there would be no indication of an alignment with Venus.
>
> Further derived dates for future scheduling in 2023:
>
> 20 June - Third Secret of Fatima papal ambush, as described in V.22 ('Perugia at Pisa' in VII.5);
>
> 21 June - possible date the Miracle at Garabandal may be seen , at feast of Neo-Martyr Saint Niketas of Rhodes (V.16);
>
> 11 July - Great Red of VIII.80 as metaphor for Mars-Pallas conjunct in trine with the Moon at the Node; also matches hint from VIII.8 for the feast of Saint Sabinus while the Moon is in Taurus as foretold.
>
> There could be conflict with Iran in August from prior issues, according to IV.95; this would be escalating into late October when the conditions of IX.55 arise. However mid-October 2023 suggests institution of a totalitarian regime that allows no resistance, with a Mars reign close to a Narbonne saint feast for IX.64.

On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 1:32:36 PM UTC-7, Curtis Eagal wrote:
> On Saturday, June 3, 2023 at 9:13:52 AM UTC-7, Curtis Eagal wrote:
> > On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 9:51:05 AM UTC-7, Curtis Eagal wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, May 31, 2023 at 3:25:31 AM UTC-7, Curtis Eagal wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, May 30, 2023 at 1:18:08 PM UTC-7, Curtis Eagal wrote:
> > > > > On Monday, May 29, 2023 at 4:56:40 PM UTC-7, Curtis Eagal wrote:
> > > > > > On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 7:03:28 PM UTC-7, geoff wrote:
> > > > > > > On 28/05/2023 12:13 am, Famous Amos wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Saturday, March 25, 2023 at 3:29:25 PM UTC-4, Curtis Eagal wrote:
> > > > > > > >> Bob Eubanks recently recalled how manager Brian Epstein limited the famous group's earning potential by insisting the maximum price for a ticket to a Beatles' concert would be seven dollars. Also there was nothing else for fans to purchase, since attempts to relitigate an unfavorable merchandising deal ruined the production-distribution chain, and the band members were sickened to learn how much income they had lost by that source.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> There was a harrowing incident when they toured Manila: a public relations nightmare ensued when they were cast as national villains for not attending a state function televised live; the group conferring decided Epstein was ultimately responsible for the scheduling debacle and ensuing ordeal, in a collective terse expletive.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> *
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Tornadoes Of 24 March Attributable To Bologna (IX.13)
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> From 4 March 2023:
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> https://groups.google.com/g/alt.prophecies.nostradamus/c/w360JNUDgjU/m/bSo9J79wAQAJ
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> << Two of Modena truculent for Bologna,
> > > > > > > >> Set discovered through the fire of Buzancais
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> The interpretation should be focused on hagiology, rather than geography, since timing is thusly frequently obscured.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Buzancais was known for a food riot in 1847, with half-starved peasants intercepting grain carts, ultimately suppressed by three rioters being guillotined, after a local elite retaliating with gunfire being beaten to death by the mob caused the remainder to cower. Instead the date of 9 January is inferred via feast for Saint Honorius of Buzancais (d. 1250), a cattle merchant who financially assisted young girls, but was ultimately killed by thieves he had reprimanded.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> January Ninth 2023 was the day about 1200 insurrectionists were arrested in Brasilia, however the fire in IX.13 may have been supplied by an X1.9-class solar flare from an active sunspot (AR3184) facing Earth that day, causing radio blackouts for parts of South America; the same sunspot was responsible for an X1.2-class solar flare 5 January 2023 (day of the funeral for Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI) - an X2 solar flare is four times more powerful than an M5 flare.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Line 3 employs a subtle trick for the 'Two of Modena': the town's patron is Saint Geminiano (312-397), whose name suggests the Gemini twins; although the citizens of Modena overwhelmingly wanted Geminiano for their bishop, he felt unworthy and fled - he had to be found and persuaded.. Renowned as an exorcist, Geminiano performed this service successfully for the daughter of Emperor Jovian. In Modena on his 31 January feast there is a special Mass, and his crypt is opened to public view. When Attila the Hun threatened to invade Modena in 452, Geminiano was invoked for protection, and a thick fog conveniently blanketed the city so it was safely bypassed.. January 31 2023 was the gap-day between the Three Holy Hierarchs including Basil the Great of 30 January (V.83, VI.78), and the predominantly German thunderstorm with two tornadoes on 1 February 2023. Thus the harsh (or truculent) storm razing a pine forest in northern Germany was indicated as precursor for a later event associated with a Bologna date. >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Tornadoes in the southern US on 24 March 2023 have caused about two dozen fatalities; hagiological research had been done designating Saint John del Bastone with a 24 March feast and association with Bologna for the IX.13 allusion.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/25/weather/us-severe-storms-saturday/index.html
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Two episodes of cyclonic activity derived as dual subjects, in different places at different times, makes the fulfillment dramatic.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> https://tech.hindustantimes.com/tech/news/sun-hurls-out-cme-towards-earth-g1-class-geomagnetic-storm-to-hit-soonuntitled-story-71679283288194.html
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> The open-ended astrological hints for the cataclysmic onset in Geneva appear to coalesce for late March 2023; the Saturnin reign and cycles from I.54 line 2 have transpired, and the hagiology cannot be easily re-evaluated, but several quatrains have presented recent fulfillments suggesting imminent inevitability.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> There are two close sustained trines that could be used for transforming into a Grand Trine with the Vertex (V.18): Ceres with Pluto, leading to the 9:40 pm CEST general time daily, without much potential for the proper dynamics; and Saturn with Mars, which could provide the Sword element for IX.44, after the 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET Saturnin Grand Trine with solar proximity for the Golden factor.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> The Saturn-Mars-Vertex Grand Trine for Geneva recurs daily in late March 2023 at a time that also brings Venus into conjunction with the East Point. The Cupbearer falsifies as VI.89 says, until the Chalice is tried with the activating conditions.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> From V.66 the time after the 21 March 2023 New Moon was indicated, implying a limit at the Half Moon 29 March 4:31 am CEST.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> A pivotal aspect is Mercury conjoining Jupiter as the striking of the High-Born from II.92 28 March 2023 8:42 am CEST - this provides a rival conjunction diminishing the established claim Venus has on the recurring Grand Trine.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Looking back, the prior lunar conjunct was with Ouranos 25 March 2023 12:51 am CET, as VI.70 expresses the noise and light surpassing the Heavens, occurring before the next celestial body is reached.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> And the prior lunar aspect was a square with Neptune 28 March 2023 3:39 am CEST, for the perplexity between Corinth and Ephesus in III.3.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> The spot occupied by the rapidly-shifting Vertex to form the Grand Trine with Saturn and Mars is about two degrees into Scorpio, fulfilling the final line of V.42 by suggesting a point 'under the Balance,' or beneath the Libran constellation, bringing the Grand Trine together as combined points.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> For 28 March 2023 using Geneva coordinates and CEST:
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> 3:39 am - Neptune lunar square (III.3);
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> 8:42 am - Mercury-Jupiter conjunct, Jupiter as High-Born of II.92;
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> 10:00 am - Saturnin Grand Trine with Mars and the Vertex - Venus debased at the East Point, upstaged by the Mercury-Jupiter conjunction, critical time -
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> << 28 March 2023 10 am CEST / 4 am EDT / 1 am PDT >>;
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> 10:02 am - Ceres lunar square (ends III.3 condition);
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> 3:19 pm - Mars lunar conjunct - 'The New Mars for vengeance and remorse' (I.94);
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Mercury proceeds to make its next planetary conjunction with Vesta 30 March 2023 4:03 pm CEST, corresponding with the X.6 line -
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> 'Vesta - sepulchral extinguishing fire to appear'
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> For the Lady honored through force of terror in I.94, there is Blessed Agnes of Chatillon with feast on 28 March, and an additional memorial on 29 March in the Cisterian order; Agnes served as sub-prioress in the monastery of Beaupre, Belgium, circa 1200. She was a visionary with a particular devotion to the Eucharist, falling into ecstasy frequently after partaking Communion. The extension into the adjacent day with the extra memorial could be what is inferred from the 'New Mars' lunar conjunct date of 28 March 2023.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> The Saturn trine with Mars that is foundational for the Chalice officially occurs 30 March 2023 8:15 pm CEST, a date with plausibly relevant hagiology.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Saint Secundus of Asti has the 30 March feast, a Roman soldier of the Patrician class, baptized as a Christian in Milan; when it was discovered he gave a Christian burial to a martyr he fled to Asti, but was ultimately found, tortured and beheaded circa 119. Milan is in the Lombard region for V.42 and VI.16.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> The first bishop of Civitas Silvanectium in Gaul was Saint Regulus (died 260), also having a 30 March feast (Gaul to tremble in X.58)..
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Another memorial on 30 March is for a group of martyrs in Greece circa 300 with Saint Domninus and others, including one named Victor (VI.70).
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > King Jom Un is top of the line
> > > > > > > > Putin is a genious and a friend of Mine
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > That woman is a whack-job I neva met her
> > > > > > > > The Sowdee Prince is a man I prefer
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I can do what I want with the dockyoumints
> > > > > > > > I unproven all actions of the Sowdee Prince!!!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Genious!! I am the Masta Of Windmills'!!!!!
> > > > > > > Is Curtis Eagal and Famous Amos in fact the same person ? Curious, as
> > > > > > > threads from Curtis mostly consist of him replying to his own bizarre
> > > > > > > rants. And FA similarly, but with a little interaction between the 'two'.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > geoff
> > > > > > I am not replying to myself, but demonstrating that although the major event is imminent the sequence had to be observed and analyzed, which is far too complex a notion to be conveyed in a single post, as if I knew everything at the outset, or remade my message every time - this is a refinement of something determined to be inevitable, drawing on the logic of a long yet unreported track record. The modern attention span is definitely diminishing, but the relevant sequence started 2 February 2023 with the all-day Venusian Grand Trine on feast of Saint Joan de Lestonnac, as solution for part of X.17, which was set at the Juno-Venus-Node conjunct of 21 March 2023 at the New Moon. These correlations with the astrology are specific to 2023, even if they are too subtle and cryptic to be communicated as anything but nonsense by the average person. I've had people say it's like Chinese to them. If this were common knowledge I would not feel obligated to provide the information. There have been numerous occasions where the conjectures have resulted in definite fulfillments, but since these have not been reported in media there is sustained yet baseless resistance to acknowledging the continuing effect of known prophecies being genuine into the current era, just as any theory regarding The Beatles would be culturally preferable to admitting they fed society back the story of Jesus without it being recognized.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It is not as if I believe fulfillment can convince anyone anymore, if that were the case it would have been with the exact date foretold for the Columbia shuttle disaster 16 months early, or the date for the Floyd death more recently, which was also pinpointed, in that case as a trigger for widespread anger, before it occurred.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Beatles labored ingeniously on a pop-culture version of the Christian story, only to have their fans project any other dark and sinister things onto their work, and regard inherently obvious solutions as some bizarre invasive idea, while consistent with all their remarks from interviews. Everything they created was like a piece of a puzzle, just like with Nostradamus: except while they regressively built a Remembrance of the Christian story, the French seer was encoding something like the Akashic records..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In the first few bars of "Lady Madonna" with the piano mimicking Fats Domino from "Badpenny Blues," there is the same theme as in "Back In The USSR":
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 'When He -
> > > > > > Was Thirteen'
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In the middle of the USSR solo, the guitar is played as if to emphatically convey,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > '...He - Left - Home -
> > > > > > At - Thir-teen...'
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The oddly bent note opening the White Album also sounds remarkably like,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 'TWELVE'
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The musical dream was for the subconscious, built into all the hooks and riffs, which is so consciously enjoyable the tendency is not to look past that pleasure.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > * Lovely Lethal Metal Maid *
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The conjunction of Vesta and Ouranos takes place about twenty-two minutes after the pair drops beneath the Ecliptic (30 May 2023 7:33 pm CEST), thereby aligning with the remark from V.65 that the lady on burning coals will no longer be in view, having recently set by the projected schedule.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Des principaux de l'affaire caches
> > > > > > Et dame en braise plus ne sera en vue
> > > > > >
> > > > > > With the principals of the affair hidden
> > > > > > And the lady on burning coals will no longer be in view
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The principal players in the 'Saturnin Affair' are either conceptual (Vertex, Fortune, Ascendant, South Node) or beneath the Ecliptic (Saturn and Neptune), except for Venus herself; there is nothing special about the lunar appearance for being mid-way through Libra, waxing from a Half Moon. The theme of V.65 is that the Higher Powers allow the sudden terror, with the signs expressed subtly towards an overtly innocuous situation, gradually angered into withdrawing assistance that might otherwise be provided. While V.66 focused on the 20 April 2023 solar eclipse in line 4, the previous line may have shifted without fanfare to the recent Half Moon 27 May 2023.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Since 30 May is feast for Saint Joan of Arc, who was burned alive on that day in 1431, the references to a lady engulfed by flames in V.65 and VI.19 could work in tandem, except that a saint should probably not want to put Innocents to the fire, even if that was how their own martyrdom manifested. The 8 May 2023 4:48 pm CEST Vesta engulfment by Fortune identifying the Candle configuration as the True Flame, for later reiteration using the Vertex, could explain VI.19 without Saint Joan directly.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Because the Vesta-Ouranos coupling is part of the populous grouping in Taurus, and their merging is synchronized with the appearance of the Venusian-Neptunian Chalice, that could explain the betrayal originating from the Great Urn as the Taurean constellation in X.50, also inhabited by the Node, Jupiter, and Mercury.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Saint Maximus of Trier was born near Poitiers, and is depicted with a bear, for the 29 May feast, which could figure in line 3 of VIII.52 -
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ongle a Poitiers saintes ailes ruiner
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Claw at Poitiers, holy saints to ruin
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A Lombard connection with 30 May for V.42 exists via feast for Saint Anastasius II, who converted from the heresy of Arianism, which disputed the divinity of Christ by a Trinitarian comparison with the Creator-Father presumptive character.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Upon conversion, Anastasius was appointed Bishop of Pavia, Lombardy in 668, remaining so until his death in 680.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > While Geneva's Midheaven version of the Candle dual trine with Saturn and the South Node does not have an ominous Grand Trine 30 May 2023 3:22 pm CEST, when the configuration is consummated by the Saturn-Midheaven trine about twelve minutes later (3:34 pm CEST), the chart elements appears conspicuously orchestrated, with several independent conditions temporally coalescing:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Pallas in Leo lunar sextile at 11 degrees 45 minutes respectively;
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Solar Grand Trine with Fortune and the East Point - this is a very tight triangular form at the 8-degree point in the Air signs, with the East Point substituting for the nearby Ascendant as the pattern with Fortune is slipping out of phase for the Venusian false rapport.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This brief Solar Chalice at the conclusion of the Upright Candleflame configuration, synchronized with the Pallas lunar aspect, in context could fulfill the line from IV.58 about the burning Sun to be swallowed, considering the Venusian-Neptunian Chalice during the subsequent Vertex iteration of the Candle.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Saints Joan of Arc and Anastasius seemed featured for 30 May 2023; 31 May is feast for the Visitation, which appears skipped.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Saint Reverianus with 1 June feast was bishop of Autun, missionary to Gaul circa 273 by order of Emperor Aurelian he was beheaded, martyred with Saint Paulus and ten others; Gaul is to tremble in X.58.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Also for 1 June are concurrent feasts for Saints Felinus and Gratia of Perugia (martyrs circa 250), and Saint Peter of Pisa (1355-1435) - this is an unanticipated possibility for 'Perugia at Pisa' to solve VII.5. The name 'Gratia' could be hinted by the Ile de Graye specific island theme of V.16.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Again skipping a day, for 3 June there are two concurrent feasts that could be the meaning for the widow and virgin of VIII.80: Saint Clotilde (born 475, Lyons) was Queen of the Franks, married to King Clovis, whose death made her a widow - she died at Tours in 548; and Saint Paula of Nicomedia was a consecrated virgin, tortured before being sent to Constantinople for beheading in 273.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Saint Joan of Arc was born on January Sixth 1412, at a small village near the province of Lorraine - this could be the reference in X.50, however not the House of Lorraine prophecy since that implies nobility. The natal coincidence with the date of the Capitol riot could prove esoterically significant.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In a vision at age thirteen, Joan was encouraged by entities she described as very beautiful, including the Archangel Michael, to drive the English from her country, then conduct the Dauphin to Reims for his coronation. The story has been adapted for film from the silent era, a compelling tale of visionary faith merging with militaristic nationalism, progressing towards a tragic conclusion. The Maid of Orleans, clad in armor as the standard-bearer for French Victory, became a prisoner of the English, attempting to break her as a symbol of the Faith that had defeated them. After being burned alive, such extreme efforts were taken to ensure no relic would survive for veneration, that an executioner expressed fear of his own damnation.
> > > > > > Lady honored by force of terror
> > > > > > This line in I.94 coupled with the New Mars concept suggests the ironic fiery cataclysm, in its timely recalling of Saint Joan suffering her horrific mortal fate, would in a sardonic fashion honor the manner of her death.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 'Lovely
> > > > > > Lethal
> > > > > > Metal
> > > > > > Maid'
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ...'Made her look a little like
> > > > > > A milit'ry man'
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [comb-and-paper, speeded up:]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 'Wore -
> > > > > > Men's
> > > > > > Clo-thing'
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 'Lovely Lethal,
> > > > > > Lovely Lethal
> > > > > >
> > > > > > MAID...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - Of
> > > > > > Orleans!'
> > > > > The songs of Sgt Pepper corresponding to saints, building towards Christ as the Saint of Saints in the finale, was one of several subliminal tangents explored. John Lennon explained things were thrown in together chaotically to create each song as a unique entity: so the Liddell sisters seated on a sofa photographed by Carroll seems referenced in a line; the "Lovely Rita" concept dovetails with the persona of Saint Joan of Arc; there is a storybook parallel with Cinderella; and the predominant theme, emerging in a transmutation of the refrain, cleverly returns to the gospel material (in a manner now withheld).
> > > > >
> > > > > They insisted they were thinking of bananas writing "She's Leaving Home"; and the request to producer George Martin for "Being For The Benefit of Mister Kite" was to 'make it sound like an orange.'
> > > > >
> > > > > Saturnins Under The Balance For Venusian Candle & Chalice At Great Mercury
> > > > >
> > > > > Looking at the remainder of the the lunar course in Libra, presuming that constellation is the New Cupbearer in perplexity with Pisces as the current location for Neptune, and the Balance concept in V.42 is parallel, the observed celestial movements suggest new correlations with the prophecies.
> > > > >
> > > > > The invented term 'Saturnins' would now mean two successive Grand Trines where Saturn appears close to the Midheaven point.
> > > > >
> > > > > The 'Vertex celebration' of V.18 may be found in an aftermath triple conjunction, so not relevant at the cataclysmic onset.
> > > > >
> > > > > The Candle configuration could apply to the false rapport of the weak trine between Venus and Neptune; and the Chalice could be a simultaneous Pediment formation, requiring only an extra pivotal point.
> > > > >
> > > > > If there is no access to an astrology program to animate the Geneva charts with local specificity, there are online ephemeris sources that can be used to verify the placements of celestial points.
> > > > >
> > > > > astro.com/swisseph/ae/2000/ae_2023.pdf
> > > > >
> > > > > The listing for Thursday 2 February 2023 shows Venus at 7 degrees 20 minutes Pisces; the Moon moving from 2 degrees Cancer; and the South Node at 8.5 degrees Scorpio - and Mars uninvolved around 10.5 degrees Gemini. This is the Venusian Grand Trine on the feast of Saint Joan de Lestonnac, with Mars in Gemini not Cancer.
> > > > >
> > > > > Listing Tuesday 21 March shows the Sun entering Aries, with the following from Pisces for the New Moon; Venus at 5 degrees Taurus, with the Node at 6 degrees - placing Juno there can be done with an ephemeris for minor bodies (link below).
> > > > >
> > > > > On Friday 17 March the Saturn (1 degree Pisces) sextile Venus aspect (zero degrees Taurus) is evident in the listing, however the inclusion of the intrusive Vertex forming the Pediment (I.54) requires the Geneva location for that calculation.
> > > > >
> > > > > The Thursday 27 April Neptune lunar trine can be discerned (Neptune 26 degrees 37 minutes Pisces, the Moon 26 degrees 26 minutes Cancer); also Venus at 18 degrees Gemini sextile Chiron at 17 degrees Aries - however the Vertex and Fortune are again not available to demonstrate the Double Pediment effect implying the esoteric mixing stage; notice also New Mars is then in Cancer at 16 degrees 49 minutes.
> > > > >
> > > > > A resource for the minor bodies is -
> > > > >
> > > > > cafeastrology.com/asteroid-ephemeris2023.html
> > > > >
> > > > > There the location of Vesta could be verified, combined with the other source to confirm conjunction of 30 May 2023 with Ouranos.
> > > > >
> > > > > It also shows Pallas was around 11.5 degrees Cancer on 2 February 2023; and it gives the position of Juno on 21 March as 5 degrees 25 minutes Taurus, for the Venus-Node-Juno triple conjunct subtly featured in X.17.
> > > > >
> > > > > For 31 May 2023 using Geneva coordinates and CEST:
> > > > >
> > > > > 7:24 am - Grand Trine of the South Node with the Ascendant and Midheaven - the Moon about two-thirds through its Libra transit, with Saturn at 6 degrees 57 minutes Pisces and Midheaven nearby at 3 degrees 40 minutes in the same sign;
> > > > >
> > > > > 7:53 am - Vertex in dual trine with Neptune and Venus as false rapport of X.28 -
> > > > >
> > > > > Venus 24 degrees 49 minutes Cancer;
> > > > > Vertex 25 degrees 42 minutes Scorpio; and
> > > > > Neptune 27 degrees 26 minutes Pisces
> > > > >
> > > > > This could also be the actual Candle of VI.35, since unchanged Saturn in that subsequent case is also close to Midheaven, then about 11.5 degrees Pisces;
> > > > >
> > > > > The Venus-Vertex trine simultaneously forms a Pediment with Ceres at 25 degrees 44 minutes Virgo, perhaps offering the Chalice of VI.89: so Venus receives both ominous symbols at the same time -
> > > > >
> > > > > And Mercury is then precisely at the fifteen-degree zero-minute midpoint of the Taurus constellation, for the Great Mercury of X.79, and perhaps the High-Born of II.92 (!);
> > > > >
> > > > > 9:25 pm - Venus, Fortune and the Vertex in a triple conjunction around 25.4 degrees Cancer, as the 'vitrix' of V.18 celebrating the Sacrifice.
> > > > >
> > > > > A normal Venusian Grand Trine with Neptune and Midheaven occurs 1 June 2023 12:36 am CEST, spanning from 25.5 to 27.5 degrees in the Water signs, with the Moon still not yet out of Libra.
> > > > >
> > > > > It is doubtful the Saturnin configuration at 7:24 am is anything but a common device (Saturn near Midheaven as 'with gold' in IX.44) to focus on the 7:53 am conditions, so the critical time should be -
> > > > >
> > > > > << 31 May 2023 7:53 am CEST / 1:53 am EDT / 30 May 2023 10:53 pm PDT >>
> > > > >
> > > > > These shifting parameters reflect my own evolving level of understanding, and the timely nature of this endeavor has been explained.
> > > > Any comments about lunatic ranting should be reflected back on the political frontrunner who advises trashing the Constitution, going into default, pardoning insurrectionists, declassifying documents by internal thought without alerting operatives, terminating government authorities who might conduct investigations on himself, etc. From what I can tell the tendency is to seek authoritarian rule from someone who is actually ranting like a lunatic or mobster: my esotericism is based in logic and personal experience, not tribalism and propaganda, so it is off-brand to both sides of the current culture wars.
> > > >
> > > > There is a major theoretical test upcoming on 3 June 2023: the ephemeris linked would show the Moon at 27 degrees 4 minutes Scorpio; Venus at 27 degrees 32 minutes Cancer; and Neptune at 27 degrees 29 minutes Pisces. Essentially it repeats the 2 February 2023 Venusian Lunar Grand Trine, with a notable substitution.
> > > >
> > > > Scorpio Cupbearer Perplexity With Neptune Debases Venusian Rapport [3 June 2023 2:42 am CEST]
> > > >
> > > > Reading 'Under the Balance' from V.42 as intending Scorpio instead of Libra as New Cupbearer offers an intriguing possibility: the Scorpio Moon will form a sustained Grand Trine with Venus and Neptune during that interval, ominously reminiscent of the 2 February Venusian Lunar Grand Trine with the South Node.
> > > >
> > > > While Scorpio is technically a Water sign, the other two represent Fish and Crab which live in the sea, while the scorpion is a land creature whose relevant fluid is blood.
> > > >
> > > > The Neptune lunar trine occurs with Venus offset by five minutes of a degree, which is negligible, yet could establish the false rapport of X.28.
> > > >
> > > > For 3 June 2023 using Geneva coordinates and CEST:
> > > >
> > > > 2:04 am - Saturn rises locally at Ascendant;
> > > >
> > > > 2:42 am - Neptune lunar trine (27 degrees 28 minutes) within Grand Trine including Venus (27 degrees 33 minutes Cancer) - this would be the critical time -
> > > >
> > > > << 3 June 2023 2:42 am CEST / 2 June 2023 8:42 pm EDT, 5:42 pm PDT >>;
> > > >
> > > > 2:46 am - Neptune at Ascendant;
> > > >
> > > > 2:50 am - Venus lunar trine (within Grand Trine with Neptune), coinciding with the Vertex falling at the Descendant.
> > > >
> > > > Saturn would have been the last celestial body to rise, with Neptune not quite at the Ascendant, which could explain the Saturnins term, although not the 'd'or' golden remark from IX.44.
> > > >
> > > > Mercury is then in an alignment, set to conjoin Ouranos 4 June 2023 9:38 pm CEST (20 degrees 24 minutes Taurus), then Vesta 6 June 2023 11:55 pm CEST. This is not the dynamic situation expected for the Great Mercury of X.79, just as the Vertex participation by merely descending timely seems anticlimactic for V.18.
> > > >
> > > > The Neptune-Moon perplexity within the Venusian Grand Trine (i.e., Chalice or Cup) is an overtly stated feature consistent with the Cupbearer theory: the Scorpio Moon bears the Cup because it partially composes it, without its being in Scorpio the triangular configuration with Venus and Neptune could not occur.
> > > >
> > > > The Neptune lunar trine has the Corinth-Ephesus perplexity with the circumstance of Venus being ostensibly included, yet also creates a perfect aspect that conspicuously excludes Venus only slightly.
> > > >
> > > > There are many other Grand Trine configurations during the Scorpio lunar transit, however the theme of a Venusian Lunar Grand Trine is being significantly repeated, substituting Neptune for the South Node from the 2 February 2023 circumstance.
> > > John Lennon in 'Bring On The Lucie" sang
> > >
> > > "...You'd better bear this thought in mind:
> > > Your time is up,
> > > You'd better know it -
> > > But maybe you don't read The Signs"
> > >
> > > A false eschatology has emerged around the creation of Israel in 1948 ensuring salvation by quasi-scriptural Rapture invention, an inferior interpretation that would not allow for Remembrance of the Ascension as 'being caught up in the air with' Jesus, instead expecting a globally-visible recognizable floating Christ form that enables the professed faithful to levitate into the upper stratosphere. Lennon should have perceived the 1967 Six-Day War whereby Israel regained Jerusalem as the more pivotal event, whether he was aware of the Revelation correlation with Daniel's Seventy Weeks prophecy as coinciding with his declared multi-year schedule for the group. Harrison hinted the group had cast boulders into the waters, with the inevitable tidal wave level ripples yet to ensue.
> > >
> > > The earliest Apocalypse was a dream of Henoch, with human generations depicted by animals with symbolic overtones, canonical in a language older than Hebrew; its prophecies fulfilled included reference to the three sons of Constantine, proceeding into the Holocaust, whose aftermath features a group of lambs crying out without being comprehended by blind sheep; then one Ram opening its eyes to genuinely perceive grows a horn representing Faith, which all the faithless others attempt to break.
> > >
> > > The Beatles' Remembrance of Jesus has masterfully accomplished across various genres into tantalizing song entities, there is a sublime quality to how the precise messages are articulated within the instrumentally and vocally realized musicology, with a combination of solid theological foundation and modern mischievous whimsy. One example does not provide the entire picture, the aggregation gives a sense of proceeding to a succession of climaxes.
> > >
> > > When they received their MBE medals, George Harrison joked it could stand for "Mister Brian Epstein." Whatever his professional flaws in their management, Epstein believed in them when they needed that support, and facilitated the success that had eluded them. Yet the audition with George Martin was headed for rejection, until Harrison broke the ice by commenting on his tie.
> > >
> > > * Corinth & Ephesus In Perplexity Debases Venus In Their Mutual Rapport *
> > >
> > > The prophecy allows clarification before activation: the 2 February 2023 Venusian Lunar Grand Trine has a reprise 3 June 2023, substituting Neptune for the South Node; the 27 April 2023 1:40 am CEST Neptune lunar trine for Geneva suggested the mixing stage in the same Cupbearer with inclusion of New Mars, the chart implying three Pediments, two overlapping with Venus sextile Vertex (involving the Chiron-Fortune opposition), and Neptune-Juno-Moon. This is eschatology and prophetic interpretation on an unprecedented level, which infers some negative energy being infused for the Neptune lunar trine aspect, which is part of the 3 June 2023 Grand Trine.
> > >
> > > Resetting the hagiological references, 3 June has feasts for the widow and virgin of VIII.80, in Saints Clotilde and Paula, respectively; also for Saint Morand (died 1115), patron of wine-makers, for having sustained himself one Lent on a bunch of grapes.
> > >
> > > Saint Saturnina of Arras has a 4 June feast, as a likely fictional German virgin-martyr in Arras, France - and the patron of wine merchants. The name 'Saturnina' could be implied by the cryptic Saturnin term, indicating that day, despite the coincidence of Saturn having risen for the projected fateful Chalice debasement.
> > >
> > > Saint Austrebertus was Vienne bishop from 726 until his death in 742, with feast on 5 June.
> > >
> > > For 6 June, Blessed William Greenwood has an additional memorial to 4 May as a Carthusian martyr, arrested at the London Charterhouse for opposing policies of Henry VIII, starved to death 6 June 1537 at Newgate Prison.
> > >
> > > A plausible Lombardy V.42 reference candidate also has the 6 June feast: Saint Eustorgius II, bishop of Milan from 512; he spent heavily to ransom Christians abducted by barbarians, and died in 518 of natural causes.
> > >
> > > The solution for 'Saturne d'or' from IX.44 could be nothing to do with Midheaven, if meant to indicate a pre-cataclysmic condition for Geneva on the 3 June 2023 schedule.
> > >
> > > The daily recurrence of Saturn at the East Point has a quirk on the 3 June 2023 instance at 1:26 am CEST, since there will be a non-repeating dramatic opposition with Fortune:
> > >
> > > Saturn 7 degrees 1 minutes Pisces /
> > > East Point 7 degrees 5 minutes Pisces
> > > -opposed by-
> > > Fortune 6 degrees 3 minutes Virgo
> > >
> > > Perhaps the auspicious inference of Fortune is being rendered as the 'golden' influence for Saturn at that daily juncture, as ironic prelude to its fateful rising: this could also be a 'good omen' involving Fortune from II.66, prior to a city being besieged.
> > >
> > > The basic definition of perplexity is an intertwining, describing the interacting trio necessary for a Grand Trine, which is being called esoterically a Cup or Chalice.
> > >
> > > The Venusian Lunar trine of 2 February 2023 had Venus under 8 degrees Pisces, and the South Node near 8.5 degrees Taurus, so the Cancer Moon had its official trine aspect with Venus first.
> > >
> > > In the 3 June 2023 Venusian Lunar Trine, Venus loses the competition for lunar favor to Neptune by a mere five minutes of a degree -
> > >
> > > And to put a spotlight on the Neptunian victory, its primary Scorpio lunar trine coincides with Neptune reaching the East Point, as though it had crossed the finish line in a marathon. This is what seems to trigger the incident, with Saturn already risen, but Neptune arriving quickly on the horizon as an Ambassador of the Venusian Chalice.
> > >
> > > The Vertex at that point around 28 degrees Virgo also forms the Crest of a Pediment with Venus and the Moon, peaking around 2:38 am CEST.
> > >
> > > Venus, apparently recalling her glory in the 2 February 2023 case, is debased by being demoted to the secondary lunar trine in the Chalice of Perplexity, with her failure celebrated by the Vertex signifying downfall, also occurring in tandem with the ongoing Sacrifice in the wake of the cataclysmic onset.
> > >
> > > Venus as Mystery Babylon (demonstrated Friday 9 September 2022 at its lunar opposition) should be the High-Born figure of II.92, perhaps with the identifying word 'Harlot' missing as previously conjectured. The minor variations in location that determine the primary and secondary lunar trines within a Grand Trine configuration are not discernible except by obtaining numerical data, however this sequence has synchronized signs: Neptune meeting the East Point at its primary lunar trine; and the Vertex dropping at the Descendant for the secondary lunar trine with Venus.
> > >
> > > If the Great Mercury of X.79 means ascending for Geneva, that occurs 3 June 2023 4:38 am CEST, associated with trembling.
> > >
> > > The Saturnins enduring the worst should be the four minutes prior to Neptune rising, in the wake of cataclysmic onset, signifying a localized catastrophic phase.
> > Unfortunate news from India has again proven the relevance of the French seer's contribution, clarified through my own timely interpretation: but before making the requisite elaborations, my thoughts are traveling back to the days of the US South expressing indignation over religious views they did not comprehend, and how they publicly imposed their inferior opinions.
> >
> > When the effort to boycott The Beatles was gaining momentum, a radio station in Longview, Texas, announcing a bonfire of their records as an event was struck by a bolt of lightning that knocked their news director unconscious, and damaged equipment. People forget the Higher Powers have their own opinions.
> >
> > When a clergy member threatened all concertgoers with excommunication, The Beatles were determined to proceed with the show anyway. Yet serendipity removed the stressful situation: the concert was outdoors, and rain ensued, causing the guitarists to receive electric shocks, so the performance had to be cancelled.
> >
> > Innocent Blood At Widow & Virgin; Mercurial Chalice With Saturnins At Lombardy
> > [6 June 2023 8:07pm CEST / 2:07 pm EDT / 11:07 am PDT]
> >
> > The expectation of innocent bloodshed at the 3 June 2023 date determined for the widow and virgin of VIII.80 (as feast for Saints Clotilde and Paula, respectively) has sadly been realized in the train derailment occurring in India, at Balasore in eastern Odisha state. The death toll has reached 288 with over a thousand injured. The collision included two passenger trains and a freight train, with traffic signaling failure in preliminary consideration for the cause. While this tragic incident happened 6:50 pm local time on 2 June 2023, the horrific aftermath is consuming the following day as foretold.
> >
> > The derailment chart shows Neptune set at the Nadir, before the Moon moved into position for its Grand Trine with Venus. There is an implied association of the India train derailment with the ominously anticipated Venusian Cup appearing 3 June 2023 2:46 am CEST, which locally occurred 3 June 6:15 am IST.
> >
> > It now appears the Cup mixed doubly for Venus means there will be a second Chalice that will be tried soon for the Geneva event itself. Another feast on 3 June for Saint Morand, patron of wine-makers, puts wine on the table to be spilled for VII.5.
> >
> > The Moon enters Sagittarius 3 June 2023 7:04 am CEST, leaving the Scorpio Cupbearer constellation.
> >
> > Mercury first surpassing the Heavens planet (VI.70), then reaching Vesta (X.6) over the next few days presents timing factors.
> >
> > The seer has incorporated conceptual points and given the Geneva location, so those local charts should be animated to observe the precise movements. The prophecies summarize features to watch for, yet it is only by running an astrology program that relevant intricacies of the cosmic dance can be revealed.
> >
> > The Full Moon occurs 4 June 2023 5:42 am CEST, which could be the generic 'Sol et Lune' from V.66; Mercury conjoins Ouranos later that day at 9:38 pm CEST, for the surpassing of The Heavens in VI.70.
> >
> > Venus enters Leo 5 June 2023 3:47 pm CEST, arriving in the constellation where the New Mars is residing, which could establish the 'false rapport' of X.28, since Mars currently represents vengeance against Venus herself.
> >
> > For 6 June 2023 using Geneva coordinates and CEST:
> >
> > 7:30 pm - Vertex trine Saturn - this is a daily-recurring condition associated with the Candleflame theory (however the South Node implications are being discarded);
> >
> > 8:07 pm - Fortune trine Saturn - this is an isolated occurrence, coincidentally following the Vertex-Saturn trine, so the two trine aspects in successive combination could be construed as 'The Saturnins' -
> >
> > There is a synchronized Mercurial Lunar Grand Trine, which could constitute the Great Mercury of X.79 -
> >
> > Moon 21 degrees 5 minutes Capricorn /
> > Midheaven 22 degrees 8 minutes Virgo /
> > Mercury 22 degrees 59 minutes Taurus &
> > Vesta 23 degrees 9 minutes Taurus
> >
> > - this would be the critical time, perhaps the trying of the Chalice in VI.89 -
> >
> > << 6 June 2023 8:07 pm CEST / 2:07 pm EDT / 11:07 am PDT >> -
> >
> > The prior Venus-Neptune Grand Trine simultaneously returns with the Ascendant taking the lunar role;
> >
> > 9:18 pm - Dusk causes Fortune to jump beneath the Ecliptic;
> >
> > 9:28 pm - Venus is conjoined by the Vertex, perhaps as the 'vitrix' celebration of V.18;
> >
> > 11:55 pm - Mercury conjoins Vesta, perhaps indicated by the 'Vesta sepulchral fire' of X.6.
> >
> > The 6 June date falls on the feast of Saint Eustorgius II, bishop of Milan from 512 until his death in 518, thereby providing a Lombard connection, as in V.42 and VI.16.
> The way John Lennon spoke about his group's records being physically burned suggested that even before meeting Yoko Ono and meditating with a guru he comprehended the concept of Karma, that manifesting hateful destruction can create negative energy. The listener naturally presumes Lennon singing "In My Life" is indulging in personal retrospection, while it seems more a projection of Christ looking back during His final prayers in the 'Garden of Gethsemane,' whose instrumental phrasing appears subliminally performed as a variation after repetitions in the coda of "The Word," not recurring due to the fade.
>
> Lennon's opinion that the Apostles ostensibly failed Jesus was central to the 'Agony In The Garden' subtext to the late 1965 album. When McCartney added fuzz bass to Harrison's "Think For Yourself," the final articulation implies,
>
> 'In The Garden,
> In The Garden -
>
> They Took A Nap While
> IN THE GARDEN!'
>
> The format follows the gospels, with the trio of closest Apostles succumbing to slumber - and a mysterious angel appears to strengthen Christ's resolve, brought out in "I'm Looking Through You":
>
> "Why, tell me why, did you not treat me right?"
>
> [Pray-er]
>
> "Love has a nasty habit of disappearing overnight."
>
> Jesus asked them to pray, yet the low-energy Apostles slept instead.
>
> The two staccato notes on keyboard imply,
>
> 'STRENGTH-
> ENED!'
>
> - with another thought appended. The prominent notes alternating with a lyrical couplet tells the story:
>
> "You're thinking of me
> The same old way"
>
> ['An Angel Came -']
>
> 'You were above me,
> But not today"
>
> ['And Strengthened Him']
>
> With the timely failure of the Apostles at the forefront of Lennon's mind, it was no surprise that some of his well-considered theological opinions were shared with a friend who happened to be a journalist.
>
> * Lunar Chalice Of Vestal Great Mercury With Fortune's Venusian False Rapport For Saturnins At Lombardy *
> [7 June 2:03 am CEST / 6 June 2023 8:03 pm EDT, 5:03 pm PDT]
> The seer has incorporated conceptual points and given the Geneva location, so those local charts should be animated to observe the precise movements.. The prophecies summarize features to watch for, yet it is only by running an astrology program that relevant intricacies of the cosmic dance can be revealed.
>
> The Full Moon occurs 4 June 2023 5:42 am CEST, which could be the generic 'Sol et Lune' from V.66; Mercury conjoins Ouranos later that day at 9:38 pm CEST, for the surpassing of The Heavens in VI.70.
> Venus entered Leo 5 June 2023 3:47 pm CEST.
> The 6 June date falls on the feast of Saint Eustorgius II, bishop of Milan from 512 until his death in 518, thereby providing a Lombard connection, as in V.42 and VI.16.
> The Vendome reference seems to be for 3 June 1594, the birthdate of Duke Cesar of Vendome, thus signifying the 2023 date for the Corinth-Ephesus-Babylonian Cup of Perplexity. Cesar was the first son of King Henry IV, however with mistress Gabrielle d'Estrees and therefore illegitimate, and unable to inherit the throne, plausibly relating to the 'high put low' phrasing. His half-brother whose mother was Marie de'Medici, was legitimate, so despite his being born later in 1601, the younger son of Henry IV would reign as heir to the throne Louis XIII instead, for the 'low put high.'
>
> So the House of Lorraine flooding event from X.50 would be set at 11 June 2023, for the 1560 date of death for Mary of Lorraine, with the modern coincidence of Mercury leaving the Taurus constellation as the populous Great Urn 11 June 2023 12:33 pm CEST.
>
> The June Sixth date has its obvious World War Two anniversary with the D-Day invasion, which could involve the various conflict and siege metaphoric lines.
>
> The double mixing concept for the Revelation Fall of Babylon catastrophe suggests the Cup Venus mixed for herself on 2 February 2023 (Lunar Grand Trine with the South Node) somehow precipitated the massive fatalities of the 6 February 2023 sibling quakes at the Turkey-Syria border: the Indian train collision-derailments of 2 June 2023 had its corollary in the comparatively benign 1 February 2023 magnitude 6 quake striking New Bataan, also hours before the Moon moved into the Grand Trine configuration with Venus and the South Node; the post-Cup event should be the Chalice involving the Moon and Mercury-Vesta, with the foretold death toll in the millions, suggesting the population of Geneva, due to a cataclysm involving the LHC.
>
> While the coincidence of two conceptual trines with Saturn presented another dubious case, the inclusion of Midheaven in the Chalice formation obviously went against the Vertex-vitrix theory from V.18: designating the Chalice of VI.89 as a Lunar Grand Trine with Mercury-Vesta and the Vertex instead brings the focus to an entirely new chart sequence.
>
> The two vestals, Vesta and Mercury, conjoin around midnight CEST into 7 June 2023, whereas their August 2022 opposition was a subject in IV.95. For 7 June 2023 using Geneva coordinates and CEST:
>
> 1:46 am - Saturn rises locally, for a simple meaning of 'Saturnin' - at this point only the Moon, Pluto and Ceres are above the Ecliptic;
>
> 1:54 am - Venus conjunct Fortune;
>
> 2:03 am - Lunar Grand Trine with the Vertex and Mercury-Vesta as the Chalice of VI.89, and Great Mercury of X.79, presenting the critical time -
>
> << 7 June 2023 2:03 am CEST / 6 June 2023 8:03 pm EDT / 5:03 pm PDT >> -
>
> Mercury 23 degrees 20 minutes Taurus /
> Vesta 23 degrees 16 minutes Taurus;
> Moon 24 degrees 43 minutes Capricorn; &
> Vertex 23 degrees 51 minutes Virgo
>
> The false rapport with Venus of X.28 then potentially presents itself by Fortune appearing to briefly complete a nearly equidistant alignment with Venus in Leo, that is not realized by placements of the celestial bodies themselves -
>
> Venus 1 degree 20 minutes;
> (Fortune 5 degrees 36 minutes);
> Mars 10 degrees 1 minute; &
> Pallas 15 degrees 1 minute
>
> So without the placement of Fortune at the peak of the Mercurial Lunar Grand Trine with the Vertex, there would be no indication of an alignment with Venus.
>
> Further derived dates for future scheduling in 2023:
>
> 20 June - Third Secret of Fatima papal ambush, as described in V.22 ('Perugia at Pisa' in VII.5);
>
> 21 June - possible date the Miracle at Garabandal may be seen , at feast of Neo-Martyr Saint Niketas of Rhodes (V.16);
>
> 11 July - Great Red of VIII.80 as metaphor for Mars-Pallas conjunct in trine with the Moon at the Node; also matches hint from VIII.8 for the feast of Saint Sabinus while the Moon is in Taurus as foretold.
>
> There could be conflict with Iran in August from prior issues, according to IV.95; this would be escalating into late October when the conditions of IX.55 arise. However mid-October 2023 suggests institution of a totalitarian regime that allows no resistance, with a Mars reign close to a Narbonne saint feast for IX.64.

On Saturday, March 25, 2023 at 3:29:25 PM UTC-4, Curtis Eagal wrote:
> Bob Eubanks recently recalled how manager Brian Epstein limited the famous group's earning potential by insisting the maximum price for a ticket to a Beatles' concert would be seven dollars. Also there was nothing else for fans to purchase, since attempts to relitigate an unfavorable merchandising deal ruined the production-distribution chain, and the band members were sickened to learn how much income they had lost by that source.
>
> There was a harrowing incident when they toured Manila: a public relations nightmare ensued when they were cast as national villains for not attending a state function televised live; the group conferring decided Epstein was ultimately responsible for the scheduling debacle and ensuing ordeal, in a collective terse expletive.
>
> *
>
> Tornadoes Of 24 March Attributable To Bologna (IX.13)
>
> From 4 March 2023:
>
> https://groups.google.com/g/alt.prophecies.nostradamus/c/w360JNUDgjU/m/bSo9J79wAQAJ
>
> << Two of Modena truculent for Bologna,
> Set discovered through the fire of Buzancais
>
> The interpretation should be focused on hagiology, rather than geography, since timing is thusly frequently obscured.
>
> Buzancais was known for a food riot in 1847, with half-starved peasants intercepting grain carts, ultimately suppressed by three rioters being guillotined, after a local elite retaliating with gunfire being beaten to death by the mob caused the remainder to cower. Instead the date of 9 January is inferred via feast for Saint Honorius of Buzancais (d. 1250), a cattle merchant who financially assisted young girls, but was ultimately killed by thieves he had reprimanded.
>
> January Ninth 2023 was the day about 1200 insurrectionists were arrested in Brasilia, however the fire in IX.13 may have been supplied by an X1.9-class solar flare from an active sunspot (AR3184) facing Earth that day, causing radio blackouts for parts of South America; the same sunspot was responsible for an X1.2-class solar flare 5 January 2023 (day of the funeral for Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI) - an X2 solar flare is four times more powerful than an M5 flare.
>
> Line 3 employs a subtle trick for the 'Two of Modena': the town's patron is Saint Geminiano (312-397), whose name suggests the Gemini twins; although the citizens of Modena overwhelmingly wanted Geminiano for their bishop, he felt unworthy and fled - he had to be found and persuaded. Renowned as an exorcist, Geminiano performed this service successfully for the daughter of Emperor Jovian. In Modena on his 31 January feast there is a special Mass, and his crypt is opened to public view. When Attila the Hun threatened to invade Modena in 452, Geminiano was invoked for protection, and a thick fog conveniently blanketed the city so it was safely bypassed. January 31 2023 was the gap-day between the Three Holy Hierarchs including Basil the Great of 30 January (V.83, VI.78), and the predominantly German thunderstorm with two tornadoes on 1 February 2023. Thus the harsh (or truculent) storm razing a pine forest in northern Germany was indicated as precursor for a later event associated with a Bologna date. >>
>
> Tornadoes in the southern US on 24 March 2023 have caused about two dozen fatalities; hagiological research had been done designating Saint John del Bastone with a 24 March feast and association with Bologna for the IX.13 allusion.
>
> https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/25/weather/us-severe-storms-saturday/index.html
>
> Two episodes of cyclonic activity derived as dual subjects, in different places at different times, makes the fulfillment dramatic.
>
> https://tech.hindustantimes.com/tech/news/sun-hurls-out-cme-towards-earth-g1-class-geomagnetic-storm-to-hit-soonuntitled-story-71679283288194.html
>
> The open-ended astrological hints for the cataclysmic onset in Geneva appear to coalesce for late March 2023; the Saturnin reign and cycles from I.54 line 2 have transpired, and the hagiology cannot be easily re-evaluated, but several quatrains have presented recent fulfillments suggesting imminent inevitability.
>
> There are two close sustained trines that could be used for transforming into a Grand Trine with the Vertex (V.18): Ceres with Pluto, leading to the 9:40 pm CEST general time daily, without much potential for the proper dynamics; and Saturn with Mars, which could provide the Sword element for IX.44, after the 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET Saturnin Grand Trine with solar proximity for the Golden factor.
>
> The Saturn-Mars-Vertex Grand Trine for Geneva recurs daily in late March 2023 at a time that also brings Venus into conjunction with the East Point. The Cupbearer falsifies as VI.89 says, until the Chalice is tried with the activating conditions.
>
> From V.66 the time after the 21 March 2023 New Moon was indicated, implying a limit at the Half Moon 29 March 4:31 am CEST.
>
> A pivotal aspect is Mercury conjoining Jupiter as the striking of the High-Born from II.92 28 March 2023 8:42 am CEST - this provides a rival conjunction diminishing the established claim Venus has on the recurring Grand Trine.
>
> Looking back, the prior lunar conjunct was with Ouranos 25 March 2023 12:51 am CET, as VI.70 expresses the noise and light surpassing the Heavens, occurring before the next celestial body is reached.
>
> And the prior lunar aspect was a square with Neptune 28 March 2023 3:39 am CEST, for the perplexity between Corinth and Ephesus in III.3.
>
> The spot occupied by the rapidly-shifting Vertex to form the Grand Trine with Saturn and Mars is about two degrees into Scorpio, fulfilling the final line of V.42 by suggesting a point 'under the Balance,' or beneath the Libran constellation, bringing the Grand Trine together as combined points.
>
> For 28 March 2023 using Geneva coordinates and CEST:
>
> 3:39 am - Neptune lunar square (III.3);
>
> 8:42 am - Mercury-Jupiter conjunct, Jupiter as High-Born of II.92;
>
> 10:00 am - Saturnin Grand Trine with Mars and the Vertex - Venus debased at the East Point, upstaged by the Mercury-Jupiter conjunction, critical time -
>
> << 28 March 2023 10 am CEST / 4 am EDT / 1 am PDT >>;
>
> 10:02 am - Ceres lunar square (ends III.3 condition);
>
> 3:19 pm - Mars lunar conjunct - 'The New Mars for vengeance and remorse' (I.94);
>
> Mercury proceeds to make its next planetary conjunction with Vesta 30 March 2023 4:03 pm CEST, corresponding with the X.6 line -
>
> 'Vesta - sepulchral extinguishing fire to appear'
>
> For the Lady honored through force of terror in I.94, there is Blessed Agnes of Chatillon with feast on 28 March, and an additional memorial on 29 March in the Cisterian order; Agnes served as sub-prioress in the monastery of Beaupre, Belgium, circa 1200. She was a visionary with a particular devotion to the Eucharist, falling into ecstasy frequently after partaking Communion. The extension into the adjacent day with the extra memorial could be what is inferred from the 'New Mars' lunar conjunct date of 28 March 2023.
>
> The Saturn trine with Mars that is foundational for the Chalice officially occurs 30 March 2023 8:15 pm CEST, a date with plausibly relevant hagiology.
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> Saint Secundus of Asti has the 30 March feast, a Roman soldier of the Patrician class, baptized as a Christian in Milan; when it was discovered he gave a Christian burial to a martyr he fled to Asti, but was ultimately found, tortured and beheaded circa 119. Milan is in the Lombard region for V.42 and VI.16.
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> The first bishop of Civitas Silvanectium in Gaul was Saint Regulus (died 260), also having a 30 March feast (Gaul to tremble in X.58).
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> Another memorial on 30 March is for a group of martyrs in Greece circa 300 with Saint Domninus and others, including one named Victor (VI.70).

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On Saturday, March 25, 2023 at 3:29:25 PM UTC-4, Curtis Eagal wrote:
> Bob Eubanks recently recalled how manager Brian Epstein limited the famous group's earning potential by insisting the maximum price for a ticket to a Beatles' concert would be seven dollars. Also there was nothing else for fans to purchase, since attempts to relitigate an unfavorable merchandising deal ruined the production-distribution chain, and the band members were sickened to learn how much income they had lost by that source.
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> There was a harrowing incident when they toured Manila: a public relations nightmare ensued when they were cast as national villains for not attending a state function televised live; the group conferring decided Epstein was ultimately responsible for the scheduling debacle and ensuing ordeal, in a collective terse expletive.
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> *
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> Tornadoes Of 24 March Attributable To Bologna (IX.13)
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> From 4 March 2023:
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> https://groups.google.com/g/alt.prophecies.nostradamus/c/w360JNUDgjU/m/bSo9J79wAQAJ
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> << Two of Modena truculent for Bologna,
> Set discovered through the fire of Buzancais
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> The interpretation should be focused on hagiology, rather than geography, since timing is thusly frequently obscured.
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> Buzancais was known for a food riot in 1847, with half-starved peasants intercepting grain carts, ultimately suppressed by three rioters being guillotined, after a local elite retaliating with gunfire being beaten to death by the mob caused the remainder to cower. Instead the date of 9 January is inferred via feast for Saint Honorius of Buzancais (d. 1250), a cattle merchant who financially assisted young girls, but was ultimately killed by thieves he had reprimanded.
>
> January Ninth 2023 was the day about 1200 insurrectionists were arrested in Brasilia, however the fire in IX.13 may have been supplied by an X1.9-class solar flare from an active sunspot (AR3184) facing Earth that day, causing radio blackouts for parts of South America; the same sunspot was responsible for an X1.2-class solar flare 5 January 2023 (day of the funeral for Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI) - an X2 solar flare is four times more powerful than an M5 flare.
>
> Line 3 employs a subtle trick for the 'Two of Modena': the town's patron is Saint Geminiano (312-397), whose name suggests the Gemini twins; although the citizens of Modena overwhelmingly wanted Geminiano for their bishop, he felt unworthy and fled - he had to be found and persuaded. Renowned as an exorcist, Geminiano performed this service successfully for the daughter of Emperor Jovian. In Modena on his 31 January feast there is a special Mass, and his crypt is opened to public view. When Attila the Hun threatened to invade Modena in 452, Geminiano was invoked for protection, and a thick fog conveniently blanketed the city so it was safely bypassed. January 31 2023 was the gap-day between the Three Holy Hierarchs including Basil the Great of 30 January (V.83, VI.78), and the predominantly German thunderstorm with two tornadoes on 1 February 2023. Thus the harsh (or truculent) storm razing a pine forest in northern Germany was indicated as precursor for a later event associated with a Bologna date. >>
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> Tornadoes in the southern US on 24 March 2023 have caused about two dozen fatalities; hagiological research had been done designating Saint John del Bastone with a 24 March feast and association with Bologna for the IX.13 allusion.
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> https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/25/weather/us-severe-storms-saturday/index.html
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> Two episodes of cyclonic activity derived as dual subjects, in different places at different times, makes the fulfillment dramatic.
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> https://tech.hindustantimes.com/tech/news/sun-hurls-out-cme-towards-earth-g1-class-geomagnetic-storm-to-hit-soonuntitled-story-71679283288194.html
>
> The open-ended astrological hints for the cataclysmic onset in Geneva appear to coalesce for late March 2023; the Saturnin reign and cycles from I.54 line 2 have transpired, and the hagiology cannot be easily re-evaluated, but several quatrains have presented recent fulfillments suggesting imminent inevitability.
>
> There are two close sustained trines that could be used for transforming into a Grand Trine with the Vertex (V.18): Ceres with Pluto, leading to the 9:40 pm CEST general time daily, without much potential for the proper dynamics; and Saturn with Mars, which could provide the Sword element for IX.44, after the 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET Saturnin Grand Trine with solar proximity for the Golden factor.
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> The Saturn-Mars-Vertex Grand Trine for Geneva recurs daily in late March 2023 at a time that also brings Venus into conjunction with the East Point. The Cupbearer falsifies as VI.89 says, until the Chalice is tried with the activating conditions.
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> From V.66 the time after the 21 March 2023 New Moon was indicated, implying a limit at the Half Moon 29 March 4:31 am CEST.
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> A pivotal aspect is Mercury conjoining Jupiter as the striking of the High-Born from II.92 28 March 2023 8:42 am CEST - this provides a rival conjunction diminishing the established claim Venus has on the recurring Grand Trine.
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> Looking back, the prior lunar conjunct was with Ouranos 25 March 2023 12:51 am CET, as VI.70 expresses the noise and light surpassing the Heavens, occurring before the next celestial body is reached.
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> And the prior lunar aspect was a square with Neptune 28 March 2023 3:39 am CEST, for the perplexity between Corinth and Ephesus in III.3.
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> The spot occupied by the rapidly-shifting Vertex to form the Grand Trine with Saturn and Mars is about two degrees into Scorpio, fulfilling the final line of V.42 by suggesting a point 'under the Balance,' or beneath the Libran constellation, bringing the Grand Trine together as combined points.
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> For 28 March 2023 using Geneva coordinates and CEST:
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> 3:39 am - Neptune lunar square (III.3);
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> 8:42 am - Mercury-Jupiter conjunct, Jupiter as High-Born of II.92;
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> 10:00 am - Saturnin Grand Trine with Mars and the Vertex - Venus debased at the East Point, upstaged by the Mercury-Jupiter conjunction, critical time -
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> << 28 March 2023 10 am CEST / 4 am EDT / 1 am PDT >>;
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> 10:02 am - Ceres lunar square (ends III.3 condition);
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> 3:19 pm - Mars lunar conjunct - 'The New Mars for vengeance and remorse' (I.94);
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> Mercury proceeds to make its next planetary conjunction with Vesta 30 March 2023 4:03 pm CEST, corresponding with the X.6 line -
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> 'Vesta - sepulchral extinguishing fire to appear'
>
> For the Lady honored through force of terror in I.94, there is Blessed Agnes of Chatillon with feast on 28 March, and an additional memorial on 29 March in the Cisterian order; Agnes served as sub-prioress in the monastery of Beaupre, Belgium, circa 1200. She was a visionary with a particular devotion to the Eucharist, falling into ecstasy frequently after partaking Communion. The extension into the adjacent day with the extra memorial could be what is inferred from the 'New Mars' lunar conjunct date of 28 March 2023.
>
> The Saturn trine with Mars that is foundational for the Chalice officially occurs 30 March 2023 8:15 pm CEST, a date with plausibly relevant hagiology.
>
> Saint Secundus of Asti has the 30 March feast, a Roman soldier of the Patrician class, baptized as a Christian in Milan; when it was discovered he gave a Christian burial to a martyr he fled to Asti, but was ultimately found, tortured and beheaded circa 119. Milan is in the Lombard region for V.42 and VI.16.
>
> The first bishop of Civitas Silvanectium in Gaul was Saint Regulus (died 260), also having a 30 March feast (Gaul to tremble in X.58).
>
> Another memorial on 30 March is for a group of martyrs in Greece circa 300 with Saint Domninus and others, including one named Victor (VI.70).

Johns not dead and Paul's not alive
How many day's for Trumps re instatmint?
Fore or five!!!!