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by: Mandryka - Thu, 15 Dec 2022 15:31 UTC

On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 3:17:53 PM UTC, hvt...@xs4all.nl wrote:
> Op donderdag 15 december 2022 om 12:55:39 UTC+1 schreef dan....@gmail.com:
> > https://youtu.be/mmtex6bQeIk?t=4060
> >
> > Enjoy!
> >
> > dk
>
> Thanks! One of the best versions I've heard in the last five year, or so. And an impressive second prelude.
>
> Henk

In fact I noticed that second prelude myself, so I guess we're on to something. I didn't get past it, the phone rang, but later I will.

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by: Dan Koren - Thu, 15 Dec 2022 17:00 UTC

On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 7:58:46 AM UTC-8, Graham wrote:
> On 2022-12-15 8:17 a.m., HT wrote:
> > Op donderdag 15 december 2022 om 12:55:39 UTC+1 schreef dan....@gmail.com:
> >> https://youtu.be/mmtex6bQeIk?t=4060
> >>
> >> Enjoy!
> >>
> >> dk
> >
> > Thanks! One of the best versions I've heard in the last five year, or so. And an impressive second prelude.
> >
> > Henk
> >
> #2 is my least favourite and I usually skip
> over it. However, she made me like it!

Glad you liked it. How about this one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ge35Qjhvj9M

Or this one?

https://youtu.be/3OChLbrjTm0?t=44

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by: Dan Koren - Fri, 16 Dec 2022 10:23 UTC

On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 7:17:53 AM UTC-8, hvt...@xs4all.nl wrote:
> Op donderdag 15 december 2022 om 12:55:39 UTC+1 schreef dan....@gmail.com:
> > https://youtu.be/mmtex6bQeIk?t=4060
>
> Thanks! One of the best versions I've heard in
> the last five year, or so. And an impressive
> second prelude.

Here is another superb recital that includes
BMW 826, B4 119 and the Chopin Scherzi.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UrrJJCwciU

Enjoy!

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by: Dan Koren - Sat, 17 Dec 2022 02:31 UTC

On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 9:00:29 AM UTC-8, Dan Koren wrote:
> On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 7:58:46 AM UTC-8, Graham wrote:
> > On 2022-12-15 8:17 a.m., HT wrote:
> > > Op donderdag 15 december 2022 om 12:55:39 UTC+1 schreef dan....@gmail.com:
> > >> https://youtu.be/mmtex6bQeIk?t=4060
> > >
> > > Thanks! One of the best versions I've heard in the last five year, or so. And an impressive second prelude.
> > >
> > > Henk
> > >
> > #2 is my least favourite and I usually skip
> > over it. However, she made me like it!
>
> Glad you liked it. How about this one?
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ge35Qjhvj9M
>
> Or this one?
>
> https://youtu.be/3OChLbrjTm0?t=44

Here's another one I think is outstanding:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/nog98wgobyu167r/Chopin%20Preludes.m4a?dl=0

What do you think?

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by: Graham - Sat, 17 Dec 2022 16:40 UTC

On 2022-12-16 7:31 p.m., Dan Koren wrote:
> On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 9:00:29 AM UTC-8, Dan Koren wrote:
>> On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 7:58:46 AM UTC-8, Graham wrote:
>>> On 2022-12-15 8:17 a.m., HT wrote:
>>>> Op donderdag 15 december 2022 om 12:55:39 UTC+1 schreef dan....@gmail.com:
>>>>> https://youtu.be/mmtex6bQeIk?t=4060
>>>>
>>>> Thanks! One of the best versions I've heard in the last five year, or so. And an impressive second prelude.
>>>>
>>>> Henk
>>>>
>>> #2 is my least favourite and I usually skip
>>> over it. However, she made me like it!
>>
>> Glad you liked it. How about this one?
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ge35Qjhvj9M
>>
>> Or this one?
>>
>> https://youtu.be/3OChLbrjTm0?t=44
>
> Here's another one I think is outstanding:
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/nog98wgobyu167r/Chopin%20Preludes.m4a?dl=0
>
> What do you think?
>
> dk
Away visiting family in the Okanagan and have just a tiiny-sounding
laptop. Proper listening will have to wait. BTW I have Sokolov's earlier
recording.

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On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 8:41:02 AM UTC-8, Graham wrote:
> On 2022-12-16 7:31 p.m., Dan Koren wrote:
> > On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 9:00:29 AM UTC-8, Dan Koren wrote:
> >> On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 7:58:46 AM UTC-8, Graham wrote:
> >>> On 2022-12-15 8:17 a.m., HT wrote:
> >>>> Op donderdag 15 december 2022 om 12:55:39 UTC+1 schreef dan....@gmail.com:
> >>>>> https://youtu.be/mmtex6bQeIk?t=4060
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks! One of the best versions I've heard in the last five year, or so. And an impressive second prelude.
> >>>>
> >>>> Henk
> >>>>
> >>> #2 is my least favourite and I usually skip
> >>> over it. However, she made me like it!
> >>
> >> Glad you liked it. How about this one?
> >>
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ge35Qjhvj9M
> >>
> >> Or this one?
> >>
> >> https://youtu.be/3OChLbrjTm0?t=44
> >
> > Here's another one I think is outstanding:
> >
> > https://www.dropbox.com/s/nog98wgobyu167r/Chopin%20Preludes.m4a?dl=0
> >
> > What do you think?
> >
>
> Away visiting family in the Okanagan and have
> just a tiiny-sounding laptop. Proper listening will
> have to wait. BTW I have Sokolov's earlier recording.

No rush. In the meawhile, I am collecting a playlist
with several versions of the Preludes that deserve
to be heard (IMHO).

Happy Holidays!

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by: Graham - Thu, 22 Dec 2022 03:33 UTC

On 2022-12-17 10:03 a.m., Dan Koren wrote:
> On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 8:41:02 AM UTC-8, Graham wrote:
>> On 2022-12-16 7:31 p.m., Dan Koren wrote:
>>> On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 9:00:29 AM UTC-8, Dan Koren wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 7:58:46 AM UTC-8, Graham wrote:
>>>>> On 2022-12-15 8:17 a.m., HT wrote:
>>>>>> Op donderdag 15 december 2022 om 12:55:39 UTC+1 schreef dan....@gmail.com:
>>>>>>> https://youtu.be/mmtex6bQeIk?t=4060
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks! One of the best versions I've heard in the last five year, or so. And an impressive second prelude.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Henk
>>>>>>
>>>>> #2 is my least favourite and I usually skip
>>>>> over it. However, she made me like it!
>>>>
>>>> Glad you liked it. How about this one?
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ge35Qjhvj9M
>>>>
>>>> Or this one?
>>>>
>>>> https://youtu.be/3OChLbrjTm0?t=44
>>>
>>> Here's another one I think is outstanding:
>>>
>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/nog98wgobyu167r/Chopin%20Preludes.m4a?dl=0
>>>
>>> What do you think?
>>>
>>
>> Away visiting family in the Okanagan and have
>> just a tiiny-sounding laptop. Proper listening will
>> have to wait. BTW I have Sokolov's earlier recording.
>
> No rush. In the meawhile, I am collecting a playlist
> with several versions of the Preludes that deserve
> to be heard (IMHO).
>
> Happy Holidays!
>
> dk
I listened to the Sokolov above (I have his early version and Saltzburg)
and Pletnev and dislike them equally. The pianist in your dropbox
version is just a bit too "wayward" to my taste.
I prefer Aimi's more delicate view, however, Chopin must have been in a
miserable mood when he wrote that piece!

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On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 7:33:43 PM UTC-8, Graham wrote:
>
> I listened to the Sokolov above (I have his early version and Saltzburg)
> and Pletnev and dislike them equally. The pianist in your dropbox
> version is just a bit too "wayward" to my taste.

The pianist in the Dropbox is a Serkin
pupil, arguably the best of his litter. ;-)
Have you heard Serkin's Chopin
Preludes?

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by: Graham - Thu, 22 Dec 2022 04:01 UTC

On 2022-12-21 8:55 p.m., Dan Koren wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 7:33:43 PM UTC-8, Graham wrote:
>>
>> I listened to the Sokolov above (I have his early version and Saltzburg)
>> and Pletnev and dislike them equally. The pianist in your dropbox
>> version is just a bit too "wayward" to my taste.
>
> The pianist in the Dropbox is a Serkin
> pupil, arguably the best of his litter. ;-)
> Have you heard Serkin's Chopin
> Preludes?
No! I have very little Serkin in my collection.

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by: Dan Koren - Thu, 22 Dec 2022 04:34 UTC

On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 8:01:36 PM UTC-8, Graham wrote:
> On 2022-12-21 8:55 p.m., Dan Koren wrote:
> > On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 7:33:43 PM UTC-8, Graham wrote:
> >>
> >> I listened to the Sokolov above (I have his early version and Saltzburg)
> >> and Pletnev and dislike them equally. The pianist in your dropbox
> >> version is just a bit too "wayward" to my taste.
> >
> > The pianist in the Dropbox is a Serkin
> > pupil, arguably the best of his litter. ;-)
> > Have you heard Serkin's Chopin
> > Preludes?
>
> No! I have very little Serkin in my collection.

Pretty much everything is now on YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoEq80OSvDV29IB8J83ZIf9XLK184cglT

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by: Graham - Thu, 22 Dec 2022 15:57 UTC

On 2022-12-21 9:34 p.m., Dan Koren wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 8:01:36 PM UTC-8, Graham wrote:
>> On 2022-12-21 8:55 p.m., Dan Koren wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 7:33:43 PM UTC-8, Graham wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I listened to the Sokolov above (I have his early version and Saltzburg)
>>>> and Pletnev and dislike them equally. The pianist in your dropbox
>>>> version is just a bit too "wayward" to my taste.
>>>
>>> The pianist in the Dropbox is a Serkin
>>> pupil, arguably the best of his litter. ;-)
>>> Have you heard Serkin's Chopin
>>> Preludes?
>>
>> No! I have very little Serkin in my collection.
>
> Pretty much everything is now on YouTube:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoEq80OSvDV29IB8J83ZIf9XLK184cglT
>
> dk
Thanks! I did check Utube after my post. Temporary senior's logic loss:-(
He's a bit heavy-handed and "graceless" - more at home with Beethoven.

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On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 8:04:47 AM UTC-8, Graham wrote:
> On 2022-12-21 9:34 p.m., Dan Koren wrote:
> > On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 8:01:36 PM UTC-8, Graham wrote:
> >> On 2022-12-21 8:55 p.m., Dan Koren wrote:
> >>> On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 7:33:43 PM UTC-8, Graham wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I listened to the Sokolov above (I have his early version and Saltzburg)
> >>>> and Pletnev and dislike them equally. The pianist in your dropbox
> >>>> version is just a bit too "wayward" to my taste.
> >>>
> >>> The pianist in the Dropbox is a Serkin
> >>> pupil, arguably the best of his litter. ;-)
> >>> Have you heard Serkin's Chopin
> >>> Preludes?
> >>
> >> No! I have very little Serkin in my collection.
> >
> > Pretty much everything is now on YouTube:
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoEq80OSvDV29IB8J83ZIf9XLK184cglT
>
> Thanks! I did check Utube after my post.
> Temporary senior's logic loss:-( He's a
> bit heavy-handed and "graceless" -
> more at home with Beethoven.

Setting aside the wooden interpretation,
he still plays pretty well for his age at
the time. There is an earlier version
from the 40s or 50s that is musically
"better", but horribly recorded. It used
to be on YT but I can no longer find it.

Eat drink and be merry, for tomorrow we diet.

arts / rec.music.classical.recordings / Superb Chopin Preludes by Aimi Kobayashi

Subject	Author
Superb Chopin Preludes by Aimi Kobayashi	Dan Koren
Re: Superb Chopin Preludes by Aimi Kobayashi	HT
Re: Superb Chopin Preludes by Aimi Kobayashi	Mandryka
Re: Superb Chopin Preludes by Aimi Kobayashi	Graham
Re: Superb Chopin Preludes by Aimi Kobayashi	Dan Koren
Re: Superb Chopin Preludes by Aimi Kobayashi	Dan Koren
Re: Superb Chopin Preludes by Aimi Kobayashi	Graham
Re: Superb Chopin Preludes by Aimi Kobayashi	Dan Koren
Re: Superb Chopin Preludes by Aimi Kobayashi	Graham
Re: Superb Chopin Preludes by Aimi Kobayashi	Dan Koren
Re: Superb Chopin Preludes by Aimi Kobayashi	Graham
Re: Superb Chopin Preludes by Aimi Kobayashi	Dan Koren
Re: Superb Chopin Preludes by Aimi Kobayashi	Graham
Re: Superb Chopin Preludes by Aimi Kobayashi	Graham
Re: Superb Chopin Preludes by Aimi Kobayashi	Dan Koren
Re: Superb Chopin Preludes by Aimi Kobayashi	Dan Koren