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* WAYLTL - January 2023Oscar
+* Re: WAYLTL - January 2023Andy Evans
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 by: Oscar - Fri, 13 Jan 2023 22:53 UTC

On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 2:05:24 PM, Todd M. McComb wrote:
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> Not sure a January thread started in December is actually still valid :-)

I wanted to be _first_ , see. Early bird gets the worm, and I see my name on the top of the page every time someone replies to my perfect thread.

But now that I see you made a gratuitous snide remark I will make sure not to loan you my precious Toscanini Meistersinger on Andante 4CD!!

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Streaming now on AppleMusic:

Poulenc - La voix humaine, FP 171 (1958)

New release on the alpha label in Benelux. Véronique Gens (S) and the Orchestra national de Lille conducted by Alexandre Bloch. C/w Sinfonietta, FP 141 (1947). Classic work, and an excellent new recording here.

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 by: gggg gggg - Sat, 21 Jan 2023 09:59 UTC

On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 1:28:52 PM UTC-8, gggg gggg wrote:
> On Saturday, December 31, 2022 at 10:41:52 AM UTC-8, gggg gggg wrote:
> > On Saturday, December 31, 2022 at 9:09:08 AM UTC-8, gggg gggg wrote:
> > > On Saturday, December 31, 2022 at 8:20:39 AM UTC-8, Andy Evans wrote:
> > > > I tried listening to Debussy's Pelleas et Melisande but as usual, I didn't get far into it before I turned to other things.
> > > >
> > > > I just can't quite get it into my system. Same with Jeux. I find Debussy a very difficult composer, in fact.
> > > The following review of a production of PELLEAS... begins:
> > >
> > > - Virgil Thomson used to recount a backstage conversation at the Metropolitan Opera that took place more than 50 years ago. After a performance of “Pelleas et Melisande” led by Pierre Monteux, a well-meaning patron asked the French conductor, “Do you suppose ‘Pelleas’ will ever really be a success?”
> > >
> > > Monteux’s pointed reply: “It was never intended to be..”
> > >
> > > https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1991-04-26-ca-448-story.html
> > The only Debussy piece I never get tired of listening to is "Nuages" from his NOCTURNES.
> >
> > Monteux recorded it twice; try his earlier Boston PO recording.
> Concerning vocal music, try this Y. upload:
>
> "Dame Maggie Teyte Sings Debussy's "Beau Soir." Gerald Moore, Piano. 1944"

(Y. upload):

"Debussy - La Damoiselle élue - Bidú Sayão, Rose Bampton - Toscanini (1936)"

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On Saturday, January 21, 2023 at 1:59:49 AM UTC-8, gggg gggg wrote:
> On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 1:28:52 PM UTC-8, gggg gggg wrote:
> > On Saturday, December 31, 2022 at 10:41:52 AM UTC-8, gggg gggg wrote:
> > > On Saturday, December 31, 2022 at 9:09:08 AM UTC-8, gggg gggg wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, December 31, 2022 at 8:20:39 AM UTC-8, Andy Evans wrote:
> > > > > I tried listening to Debussy's Pelleas et Melisande but as usual, I didn't get far into it before I turned to other things.
> > > > >
> > > > > I just can't quite get it into my system. Same with Jeux. I find Debussy a very difficult composer, in fact.

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(2022 Y. upload):

"Antar (Dupont) Acte II - Air d'Abla (Susan Gouthro, dir. Fritzsch)"

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halfway through Junior Mance complete albums collection 1959 - 62
4 cds on Enlightenment label
good balance IMO between structure /expressiveness

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On Saturday, January 21, 2023 at 1:59:49 AM UTC-8, gggg gggg wrote:
> On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 1:28:52 PM UTC-8, gggg gggg wrote:
> > On Saturday, December 31, 2022 at 10:41:52 AM UTC-8, gggg gggg wrote:
> > > On Saturday, December 31, 2022 at 9:09:08 AM UTC-8, gggg gggg wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, December 31, 2022 at 8:20:39 AM UTC-8, Andy Evans wrote:
> > > > > I tried listening to Debussy's Pelleas et Melisande but as usual, I didn't get far into it before I turned to other things.
> > > > >
> > > > > I just can't quite get it into my system. Same with Jeux. I find Debussy a very difficult composer, in fact.
> > > > The following review of a production of PELLEAS... begins:
> > > >
> > > > - Virgil Thomson used to recount a backstage conversation at the Metropolitan Opera that took place more than 50 years ago. After a performance of “Pelleas et Melisande” led by Pierre Monteux, a well-meaning patron asked the French conductor, “Do you suppose ‘Pelleas’ will ever really be a success?”
> > > >
> > > > Monteux’s pointed reply: “It was never intended to be.”
> > > >
> > > > https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1991-04-26-ca-448-story.html
> > > The only Debussy piece I never get tired of listening to is "Nuages" from his NOCTURNES.
> > >
> > > Monteux recorded it twice; try his earlier Boston PO recording.
> > Concerning vocal music, try this Y. upload:
> >
> > "Dame Maggie Teyte Sings Debussy's "Beau Soir." Gerald Moore, Piano. 1944"
> (Y. upload):
>
> "Debussy - La Damoiselle élue - Bidú Sayão, Rose Bampton - Toscanini (1936)"

More Debussy and Sayao:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbsUbyfQZqE

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On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 9:53:33 AM UTC-8, gggg gggg wrote:
> On Saturday, January 21, 2023 at 1:59:49 AM UTC-8, gggg gggg wrote:
> > On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 1:28:52 PM UTC-8, gggg gggg wrote:
> > > On Saturday, December 31, 2022 at 10:41:52 AM UTC-8, gggg gggg wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, December 31, 2022 at 9:09:08 AM UTC-8, gggg gggg wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday, December 31, 2022 at 8:20:39 AM UTC-8, Andy Evans wrote:
> > > > > > I tried listening to Debussy's Pelleas et Melisande but as usual, I didn't get far into it before I turned to other things.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I just can't quite get it into my system. Same with Jeux. I find Debussy a very difficult composer, in fact.
> > > > > The following review of a production of PELLEAS... begins:
> > > > >
> > > > > - Virgil Thomson used to recount a backstage conversation at the Metropolitan Opera that took place more than 50 years ago. After a performance of “Pelleas et Melisande” led by Pierre Monteux, a well-meaning patron asked the French conductor, “Do you suppose ‘Pelleas’ will ever really be a success?”
> > > > >
> > > > > Monteux’s pointed reply: “It was never intended to be.”
> > > > >
> > > > > https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1991-04-26-ca-448-story.html
> > > > The only Debussy piece I never get tired of listening to is "Nuages" from his NOCTURNES.
> > > >
> > > > Monteux recorded it twice; try his earlier Boston PO recording.
> > > Concerning vocal music, try this Y. upload:
> > >
> > > "Dame Maggie Teyte Sings Debussy's "Beau Soir." Gerald Moore, Piano. 1944"
> > (Y. upload):
> >
> > "Debussy - La Damoiselle élue - Bidú Sayão, Rose Bampton - Toscanini (1936)"
> More Debussy and Sayao:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbsUbyfQZqE

To hear that sung in English:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EhiSvmQi2k

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 by: Lawrence Chalmers - Thu, 26 Jan 2023 20:55 UTC

On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 10:46:22 AM UTC-8, gggg gggg wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 9:53:33 AM UTC-8, gggg gggg wrote:
> > On Saturday, January 21, 2023 at 1:59:49 AM UTC-8, gggg gggg wrote:
> > > On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 1:28:52 PM UTC-8, gggg gggg wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, December 31, 2022 at 10:41:52 AM UTC-8, gggg gggg wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday, December 31, 2022 at 9:09:08 AM UTC-8, gggg gggg wrote:
> > > > > > On Saturday, December 31, 2022 at 8:20:39 AM UTC-8, Andy Evans wrote:
> > > > > > > I tried listening to Debussy's Pelleas et Melisande but as usual, I didn't get far into it before I turned to other things.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I just can't quite get it into my system. Same with Jeux. I find Debussy a very difficult composer, in fact.
> > > > > > The following review of a production of PELLEAS... begins:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - Virgil Thomson used to recount a backstage conversation at the Metropolitan Opera that took place more than 50 years ago. After a performance of “Pelleas et Melisande” led by Pierre Monteux, a well-meaning patron asked the French conductor, “Do you suppose ‘Pelleas’ will ever really be a success?”
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Monteux’s pointed reply: “It was never intended to be.”
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1991-04-26-ca-448-story..html
> > > > > The only Debussy piece I never get tired of listening to is "Nuages" from his NOCTURNES.
> > > > >
> > > > > Monteux recorded it twice; try his earlier Boston PO recording.
> > > > Concerning vocal music, try this Y. upload:
> > > >
> > > > "Dame Maggie Teyte Sings Debussy's "Beau Soir." Gerald Moore, Piano.. 1944"
> > > (Y. upload):
> > >
> > > "Debussy - La Damoiselle élue - Bidú Sayão, Rose Bampton - Toscanini (1936)"
> > More Debussy and Sayao:
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbsUbyfQZqE
> To hear that sung in English:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EhiSvmQi2k

Just finished the foray into the complete Bruckner symphonies by Skrowacewski (sp?) on Oehms. Al so and soul satisfying performances well recorded the only weak one being my favorite B5 symphony. It would have made a better impression if the recording was better, but certainly not a dud. I'd recommend it as a starter set for those who wants to explore these glorious works.

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On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 12:55:48 PM UTC-8, Lawrence Chalmers wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 10:46:22 AM UTC-8, gggg gggg wrote:
> > On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 9:53:33 AM UTC-8, gggg gggg wrote:
> > > On Saturday, January 21, 2023 at 1:59:49 AM UTC-8, gggg gggg wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 1:28:52 PM UTC-8, gggg gggg wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday, December 31, 2022 at 10:41:52 AM UTC-8, gggg gggg wrote:
> > > > > > On Saturday, December 31, 2022 at 9:09:08 AM UTC-8, gggg gggg wrote:
> > > > > > > On Saturday, December 31, 2022 at 8:20:39 AM UTC-8, Andy Evans wrote:
> > > > > > > > I tried listening to Debussy's Pelleas et Melisande but as usual, I didn't get far into it before I turned to other things.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I just can't quite get it into my system. Same with Jeux. I find Debussy a very difficult composer, in fact.
> > > > > > > The following review of a production of PELLEAS... begins:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > - Virgil Thomson used to recount a backstage conversation at the Metropolitan Opera that took place more than 50 years ago. After a performance of “Pelleas et Melisande” led by Pierre Monteux, a well-meaning patron asked the French conductor, “Do you suppose ‘Pelleas’ will ever really be a success?”
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Monteux’s pointed reply: “It was never intended to be.”
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1991-04-26-ca-448-story.html
> > > > > > The only Debussy piece I never get tired of listening to is "Nuages" from his NOCTURNES.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Monteux recorded it twice; try his earlier Boston PO recording.
> > > > > Concerning vocal music, try this Y. upload:
> > > > >
> > > > > "Dame Maggie Teyte Sings Debussy's "Beau Soir." Gerald Moore, Piano. 1944"
> > > > (Y. upload):
> > > >
> > > > "Debussy - La Damoiselle élue - Bidú Sayão, Rose Bampton - Toscanini (1936)"
> > > More Debussy and Sayao:
> > >
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbsUbyfQZqE
> > To hear that sung in English:
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EhiSvmQi2k
> Just finished the foray into the complete Bruckner symphonies by Skrowacewski (sp?) on Oehms. Al so and soul satisfying performances well recorded the only weak one being my favorite B5 symphony. It would have made a better impression if the recording was better, but certainly not a dud. I'd recommend it as a starter set for those who wants to explore these glorious works.

Sorry for the typos/grammar.

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Only two days left to listen to this recital by young violinist
Johan Dalene and pianist Nicola Eimer (BBC lunchtime concerts):
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0011swd

The program starts with what I think is a terrific performance of
Ravel's fun second vilolin/piano sonata, continues with Rautavaara,
and ends with Prokofiev's great second sonata. The latter is an
interesting performance, beautifully played and technically secure,
but less angular than what I'm accustomed to in the work. Worth
checking out - quickly!
--
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Archon: Works for violin, percussion, and machine learning environment

https://neos-music.com/?language=english&page=output.php%3Ftemplate%3Denglish-album-details.php%26content%3DAlben/12312.php

(Doesn't seem to be a simpler URL.)

Archon is the name of the AI composer (born 2022, says its bio).
Kind of out there. They also had it write the liner notes. And
create various self-portrait photos -- which are both wild & creepy.

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On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 5:52:33 PM, Todd M. McComb wrote:
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> Archon: Works for violin, percussion, and machine learning environment
>
> Archon is the name of the AI composer (born 2022, says its bio).
> Kind of out there. They also had it write the liner notes. And
> create various self-portrait photos -- which are both wild & creepy.

Wow, I am down to check this out. Where did you come across this release? Bandcamp? Lemme know.

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From: mcc...@medieval.org (Todd M. McComb)
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Subject: Re: WAYLTL - January 2023
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2023 04:50:48 -0000 (UTC)
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 by: Todd M. McComb - Tue, 31 Jan 2023 04:50 UTC

In article <41c2c6b6-bd8c-4de0-a893-0a0930c25ea0n@googlegroups.com>,
Oscar <oscaredwardwilliamson@gmail.com> wrote:
>Wow, I am down to check this out. Where did you come across this
>release? Bandcamp? Lemme know.

I included a link to the page on neos-music.com in my post... but
I don't see it in your followup.... It's the newest release there,
so easy enough to find (& available on Qobuz, Presto... not Bandcamp).

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Prompted by the stories about Yuja Wang's Rachmaninoff Marathon in Carnegie Hall I listened to my fave
concerto, the G minor, with Ashkenazy and Haitink, splendid recording.

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On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 11:40:37 AM UTC-5, Herman wrote:
> Prompted by the stories about Yuja Wang's Rachmaninoff Marathon in Carnegie Hall I listened to my fave
> concerto, the G minor, with Ashkenazy and Haitink, splendid recording.
ABM is much better.

AB

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 by: Herman - Tue, 31 Jan 2023 18:42 UTC

On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 6:47:40 PM UTC+1, AB wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 11:40:37 AM UTC-5, Herman wrote:
> > Prompted by the stories about Yuja Wang's Rachmaninoff Marathon in Carnegie Hall I listened to my fave
> > concerto, the G minor, with Ashkenazy and Haitink, splendid recording.
> ABM is much better.
>
> AB

ABM is a great one, indeed. There is more than one take.

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On Tuesday, 31 January 2023 at 18:42:11 UTC, Herman wrote:
I listened to my fave concerto, the G minor, with Ashkenazy and Haitink, splendid recording.
> > ABM is much better.
> > AB
> ABM is a great one, indeed. There is more than one take.

Even ABM isn't a match for Rachmaninov's own performance, though it's sometimes touted as "better".


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