Thanks. Alas, they have only walnut, when all of my other cabinets are oak.. No mixed forest communities for me....

I get the impression that the world of CD storage is shrinking by the week.

Peter

On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 12:41:52 AM UTC-8, Richard Kaplan wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 8:51:18 AM UTC-6, Frank Berger wrote:
> > On 2/1/2023 1:42 AM, Andrew Clarke wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 1:04:45 PM UTC+11, Peter wrote:
> > >> I realize lots of you have no use for CDs and are happy putting everything on some sort of device. In fact, I have maybe half my CDs on a 1TB micro SD card, which I slot into my phone. But I also want the CDs themselves. I have no desire for playlists, incidentally -- only use them for long car trips.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks for the Leslie Dame suggestion. I think that's actually what I have, but unfortunately they have cut this shelving from their product line. I guess I'll have to settle for a substitute.
> > >
> > > Peter, I have nothing against CDs at all, and consider them far superior to the now fashionable vinyl that they replaced. But it does get to the stage where, unless you're a Texas rancher, you run out of room, and the extra space and the storage cabinets to fill them becomes expensive or in the case of CD storage, difficult to obtain. And it must get harder and harder to find stuff, whereas downloads are virtually self-indexing.
> > >
> > > Andrew Clarke
> > > Canberra
> > You are absolutely right, Andrew. My collection, once nicely ordered, is completely out of control. Nevertheless, they will have to pry my CDs from my cold dead fingers. I've said before the only regret I have is that my wife will have deal with them eventually. I can hear her cursing me under he breath. Oh, well.
> Peter, I have several cabinets like what you describe, but they seem not to be made anymore. I did see something similar on eBay, though:
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/352466837906?epid=1001349799&hash=item5210a92192:g:PaUAAMXQltxQ63fc&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAoP9bKxxKLT8rqboBNUdNKfRh0opmTLc22RyWhQ0yfvxSwDTm%2FVKJVBm0djh2ZEdDhMJ88cv82tbTjbdhW%2B%2Fbk%2FPUr8gpxiaU3t0hJqGII3lRqF6VmbslF8zPPpkQDWTtNTizhHG8BXdOdNizgt%2F26KhC03tikdM6%2BJzuztQawrEwvJ2vgJrWQ%2BxGcV%2BjyuUptARVJi3qyHgbzP%2B40kgeH8s%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR96utJTCYQ
>
> Take a look.
>
> RIch

On Thu, 02 Feb 2023 00:41:49 -0800, Richard Kaplan wrote:

> On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 8:51:18 AM UTC-6, Frank Berger wrote:
> > On 2/1/2023 1:42 AM, Andrew Clarke wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 1:04:45 PM UTC+11, Peter wrote:
> > > > I realize lots of you have no use for CDs and are happy putting everything on some sort of device. In fact, I have maybe half my CDs on a 1TB micro SD card, which I slot into my phone. But I also want the CDs themselves. I have no desire for playlists, incidentally -- only use them for long car trips.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for the Leslie Dame suggestion. I think that's actually what I have, but unfortunately they have cut this shelving from their product line. I guess I'll have to settle for a substitute.
> > >
> > > Peter, I have nothing against CDs at all, and consider them far superior to the now fashionable vinyl that they replaced. But it does get to the stage where, unless you're a Texas rancher, you run out of room, and the extra space and the storage cabinets to fill them becomes expensive or in the case of CD storage, difficult to obtain. And it must get harder and harder to find stuff, whereas downloads are virtually self-indexing.
> > >
> > > Andrew Clarke
> > > Canberra
> > You are absolutely right, Andrew. My collection, once nicely ordered, is completely out of control. Nevertheless, they will have to pry my CDs from my cold dead fingers. I've said before the only regret I have is that my wife will have deal with them eventually. I can hear her cursing me under he breath. Oh, well.
>
> Peter, I have several cabinets like what you describe, but they seem not to be made anymore. I did see something similar on eBay, though:
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/352466837906?epid=1001349799&hash=item5210a92192:g:PaUAAMXQltxQ63fc&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAoP9bKxxKLT8rqboBNUdNKfRh0opmTLc22RyWhQ0yfvxSwDTm%2FVKJVBm0djh2ZEdDhMJ88cv82tbTjbdhW%2B%2Fbk%2FPUr8gpxiaU3t0hJqGII3lRqF6VmbslF8zPPpkQDWTtNTizhHG8BXdOdNizgt%2F26KhC03tikdM6%2BJzuztQawrEwvJ2vgJrWQ%2BxGcV%2BjyuUptARVJi3qyHgbzP%2B40kgeH8s%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR96utJTCYQ

Those look like the have the annoying overlap where books, cds, etc.,
can hide themselves in an overlap.

On 2/2/2023 6:14 PM, Peter wrote:
> Thanks. Alas, they have only walnut, when all of my other cabinets are oak. No mixed forest communities for me....
>
> I get the impression that the world of CD storage is shrinking by the week.
>
> Peter
>
> On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 12:41:52 AM UTC-8, Richard Kaplan wrote:
>> On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 8:51:18 AM UTC-6, Frank Berger wrote:
>>> On 2/1/2023 1:42 AM, Andrew Clarke wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 1:04:45 PM UTC+11, Peter wrote:
>>>>> I realize lots of you have no use for CDs and are happy putting everything on some sort of device. In fact, I have maybe half my CDs on a 1TB micro SD card, which I slot into my phone. But I also want the CDs themselves. I have no desire for playlists, incidentally -- only use them for long car trips.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the Leslie Dame suggestion. I think that's actually what I have, but unfortunately they have cut this shelving from their product line. I guess I'll have to settle for a substitute.
>>>>
>>>> Peter, I have nothing against CDs at all, and consider them far superior to the now fashionable vinyl that they replaced. But it does get to the stage where, unless you're a Texas rancher, you run out of room, and the extra space and the storage cabinets to fill them becomes expensive or in the case of CD storage, difficult to obtain. And it must get harder and harder to find stuff, whereas downloads are virtually self-indexing.
>>>>
>>>> Andrew Clarke
>>>> Canberra
>>> You are absolutely right, Andrew. My collection, once nicely ordered, is completely out of control. Nevertheless, they will have to pry my CDs from my cold dead fingers. I've said before the only regret I have is that my wife will have deal with them eventually. I can hear her cursing me under he breath. Oh, well.
>> Peter, I have several cabinets like what you describe, but they seem not to be made anymore. I did see something similar on eBay, though:
>>
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/352466837906?epid=1001349799&hash=item5210a92192:g:PaUAAMXQltxQ63fc&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAoP9bKxxKLT8rqboBNUdNKfRh0opmTLc22RyWhQ0yfvxSwDTm%2FVKJVBm0djh2ZEdDhMJ88cv82tbTjbdhW%2B%2Fbk%2FPUr8gpxiaU3t0hJqGII3lRqF6VmbslF8zPPpkQDWTtNTizhHG8BXdOdNizgt%2F26KhC03tikdM6%2BJzuztQawrEwvJ2vgJrWQ%2BxGcV%2BjyuUptARVJi3qyHgbzP%2B40kgeH8s%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR96utJTCYQ
>>
>> Take a look.
>>
>> RIch

What was wrong with the one I posted? The price? It is exactly as you described. Oak, 10 shelves, no blocking side moldings.

https://www.onewayfurniture.com/wood-shed-1002-3.html

On Friday, 3 February 2023 at 12:10:15 UTC+11, Frank Berger wrote:
> On 2/2/2023 6:14 PM, Peter wrote:
> > Thanks. Alas, they have only walnut, when all of my other cabinets are oak. No mixed forest communities for me....
> >
> > I get the impression that the world of CD storage is shrinking by the week.
> >
> > Peter
> >
> > On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 12:41:52 AM UTC-8, Richard Kaplan wrote:
> >> On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 8:51:18 AM UTC-6, Frank Berger wrote:
> >>> On 2/1/2023 1:42 AM, Andrew Clarke wrote:
> >>>> On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 1:04:45 PM UTC+11, Peter wrote:
> >>>>> I realize lots of you have no use for CDs and are happy putting everything on some sort of device. In fact, I have maybe half my CDs on a 1TB micro SD card, which I slot into my phone. But I also want the CDs themselves. I have no desire for playlists, incidentally -- only use them for long car trips.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks for the Leslie Dame suggestion. I think that's actually what I have, but unfortunately they have cut this shelving from their product line. I guess I'll have to settle for a substitute.
> >>>>
> >>>> Peter, I have nothing against CDs at all, and consider them far superior to the now fashionable vinyl that they replaced. But it does get to the stage where, unless you're a Texas rancher, you run out of room, and the extra space and the storage cabinets to fill them becomes expensive or in the case of CD storage, difficult to obtain. And it must get harder and harder to find stuff, whereas downloads are virtually self-indexing.
> >>>>
> >>>> Andrew Clarke
> >>>> Canberra
> >>> You are absolutely right, Andrew. My collection, once nicely ordered, is completely out of control. Nevertheless, they will have to pry my CDs from my cold dead fingers. I've said before the only regret I have is that my wife will have deal with them eventually. I can hear her cursing me under he breath. Oh, well.
> >> Peter, I have several cabinets like what you describe, but they seem not to be made anymore. I did see something similar on eBay, though:
> >>
> >> https://www.ebay.com/itm/352466837906?epid=1001349799&hash=item5210a92192:g:PaUAAMXQltxQ63fc&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAoP9bKxxKLT8rqboBNUdNKfRh0opmTLc22RyWhQ0yfvxSwDTm%2FVKJVBm0djh2ZEdDhMJ88cv82tbTjbdhW%2B%2Fbk%2FPUr8gpxiaU3t0hJqGII3lRqF6VmbslF8zPPpkQDWTtNTizhHG8BXdOdNizgt%2F26KhC03tikdM6%2BJzuztQawrEwvJ2vgJrWQ%2BxGcV%2BjyuUptARVJi3qyHgbzP%2B40kgeH8s%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR96utJTCYQ
> >>
> >> Take a look.
> >>
> >> RIch
> What was wrong with the one I posted? The price? It is exactly as you described. Oak, 10 shelves, no blocking side moldings.
>
>
>
> https://www.onewayfurniture.com/wood-shed-1002-3.html

Only the price which is $791 as against $179. A big difference.

Ray Hall, Taree

On 2/2/2023 9:41 PM, raymond....@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, 3 February 2023 at 12:10:15 UTC+11, Frank Berger wrote:
>> On 2/2/2023 6:14 PM, Peter wrote:
>>> Thanks. Alas, they have only walnut, when all of my other cabinets are oak. No mixed forest communities for me....
>>>
>>> I get the impression that the world of CD storage is shrinking by the week.
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 12:41:52 AM UTC-8, Richard Kaplan wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 8:51:18 AM UTC-6, Frank Berger wrote:
>>>>> On 2/1/2023 1:42 AM, Andrew Clarke wrote:
>>>>>> On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 1:04:45 PM UTC+11, Peter wrote:
>>>>>>> I realize lots of you have no use for CDs and are happy putting everything on some sort of device. In fact, I have maybe half my CDs on a 1TB micro SD card, which I slot into my phone. But I also want the CDs themselves. I have no desire for playlists, incidentally -- only use them for long car trips.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for the Leslie Dame suggestion. I think that's actually what I have, but unfortunately they have cut this shelving from their product line. I guess I'll have to settle for a substitute.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Peter, I have nothing against CDs at all, and consider them far superior to the now fashionable vinyl that they replaced. But it does get to the stage where, unless you're a Texas rancher, you run out of room, and the extra space and the storage cabinets to fill them becomes expensive or in the case of CD storage, difficult to obtain. And it must get harder and harder to find stuff, whereas downloads are virtually self-indexing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Andrew Clarke
>>>>>> Canberra
>>>>> You are absolutely right, Andrew. My collection, once nicely ordered, is completely out of control. Nevertheless, they will have to pry my CDs from my cold dead fingers. I've said before the only regret I have is that my wife will have deal with them eventually. I can hear her cursing me under he breath. Oh, well.
>>>> Peter, I have several cabinets like what you describe, but they seem not to be made anymore. I did see something similar on eBay, though:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/352466837906?epid=1001349799&hash=item5210a92192:g:PaUAAMXQltxQ63fc&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAoP9bKxxKLT8rqboBNUdNKfRh0opmTLc22RyWhQ0yfvxSwDTm%2FVKJVBm0djh2ZEdDhMJ88cv82tbTjbdhW%2B%2Fbk%2FPUr8gpxiaU3t0hJqGII3lRqF6VmbslF8zPPpkQDWTtNTizhHG8BXdOdNizgt%2F26KhC03tikdM6%2BJzuztQawrEwvJ2vgJrWQ%2BxGcV%2BjyuUptARVJi3qyHgbzP%2B40kgeH8s%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR96utJTCYQ
>>>>
>>>> Take a look.
>>>>
>>>> RIch
>> What was wrong with the one I posted? The price? It is exactly as you described. Oak, 10 shelves, no blocking side moldings.
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.onewayfurniture.com/wood-shed-1002-3.html
>
> Only the price which is $791 as against $179. A big difference.
>
> Ray Hall, Taree

The OP paid "over $300" for his, presumably some time ago. The one you linked to is garbage (like all the ones I have). The one I linked is solid oak, it says, hence the price. Also yours had the trim molding that he explicitly said he doesn't one.

On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 10:15:00 AM UTC+11, Peter wrote:
> Thanks. Alas, they have only walnut, when all of my other cabinets are oak. No mixed forest communities for me....
>
> I get the impression that the world of CD storage is shrinking by the week.
>

Just like the world of CD players, I'm afraid. I've also read that BluRay discs are on their way out. The time may well come when the Katy Perry brigade buy vinyl, but the rest of us buy downloads or stream, and buy DVDs of classic cinema that doesn't get onto the streaming services, e.g. the crime films of Jean-Pierre Melville, which I'm still trying to work out after umpteen viewings; the fact that nearly all his male characters wear the same kinds of trench coats and hats doesn't help. Even DVDs may become a means of transporting video from publisher to viewer (who will then rip the disc) rather than a permanent medium.

Andrew Clarke
Canberra

On Fri, 03 Feb 2023 06:34:33 -0800, Andrew Clarke wrote:

> On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 10:15:00 AM UTC+11, Peter wrote:
> > Thanks. Alas, they have only walnut, when all of my other cabinets are oak. No mixed forest communities for me....
> >
> > I get the impression that the world of CD storage is shrinking by the week.
>
> Just like the world of CD players, I'm afraid. I've also read that BluRay discs are on their way out. The time may well come when the Katy Perry brigade buy vinyl, but the rest of us buy downloads or stream, and buy DVDs of classic cinema that doesn't get onto the streaming services, e.g. the crime films of Jean-Pierre Melville, which I'm still trying to work out after umpteen viewings; the fact that nearly all his male characters wear the same kinds of trench coats and hats doesn't help. Even DVDs may become a means of transporting video from publisher to viewer (who will then rip the disc) rather than a permanent medium.

You might be happy with that if you are a "HIP" advocate. Older
recordings are less likely to be HIP so throwing away the old
and sticking with the new is a way to keep "relevant". But
not all of us believe that newer is always better.

I bought a new component CD Player recently, so they still exist.

Aside from the price, two problems in ascending order: it's double width, and unless I live a lot longer and get even more obsessed, I won't need the capacity; and the store is shuttered until March, they say, and I suspect longer.

> What was wrong with the one I posted? The price? It is exactly as you described. Oak, 10 shelves, no blocking side moldings.
>
>
>
> https://www.onewayfurniture.com/wood-shed-1002-3.html

On Saturday, 4 February 2023 at 10:35:26 UTC+11, Pluted Pup wrote:
> On Fri, 03 Feb 2023 06:34:33 -0800, Andrew Clarke wrote:
>
> > On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 10:15:00 AM UTC+11, Peter wrote:
> > > Thanks. Alas, they have only walnut, when all of my other cabinets are oak. No mixed forest communities for me....
> > >
> > > I get the impression that the world of CD storage is shrinking by the week.
> >
> > Just like the world of CD players, I'm afraid. I've also read that BluRay discs are on their way out. The time may well come when the Katy Perry brigade buy vinyl, but the rest of us buy downloads or stream, and buy DVDs of classic cinema that doesn't get onto the streaming services, e.g. the crime films of Jean-Pierre Melville, which I'm still trying to work out after umpteen viewings; the fact that nearly all his male characters wear the same kinds of trench coats and hats doesn't help. Even DVDs may become a means of transporting video from publisher to viewer (who will then rip the disc) rather than a permanent medium.
> You might be happy with that if you are a "HIP" advocate. Older
> recordings are less likely to be HIP so throwing away the old
> and sticking with the new is a way to keep "relevant". But
> not all of us believe that newer is always better.
>
> I bought a new component CD Player recently, so they still exist.

Yes they still do.

Also, there is no way I'm going to stop a nearly 40 year old physical CD habit, when the 40 years represents 40 years of painstaking research, locating, finding reviews, sampling, refining, etc., to suddenly suit a vogue to download the present pile of stuff, when I have it already, with booklets and memories.

Think of all the Dude, Makela and Rattle efforts I haven't got, and colour me extremely lucky.

Ray Hall, Taree

On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 10:35:26 AM UTC+11, Pluted Pup wrote:
> On Fri, 03 Feb 2023 06:34:33 -0800, Andrew Clarke wrote:
>
> > On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 10:15:00 AM UTC+11, Peter wrote:
> > > Thanks. Alas, they have only walnut, when all of my other cabinets are oak. No mixed forest communities for me....
> > >
> > > I get the impression that the world of CD storage is shrinking by the week.
> >
> > Just like the world of CD players, I'm afraid. I've also read that BluRay discs are on their way out. The time may well come when the Katy Perry brigade buy vinyl, but the rest of us buy downloads or stream, and buy DVDs of classic cinema that doesn't get onto the streaming services, e.g. the crime films of Jean-Pierre Melville, which I'm still trying to work out after umpteen viewings; the fact that nearly all his male characters wear the same kinds of trench coats and hats doesn't help. Even DVDs may become a means of transporting video from publisher to viewer (who will then rip the disc) rather than a permanent medium.
> You might be happy with that if you are a "HIP" advocate. Older
> recordings are less likely to be HIP so throwing away the old
> and sticking with the new is a way to keep "relevant". But
> not all of us believe that newer is always better.
>
> I bought a new component CD Player recently, so they still exist.

Pup (or may I call you Pluted?) I think you might be confusing new releases with new media. If you have prized CDs of old recordings, you rip them and store the original. If eClassical and Presto Music etc. have reissues of old recordings reissued on CD you can buy either the physical CD itself or a download. Sometimes Presto have downloads of older CDs which are long out of print, but haven't bothered, no doubt for economic reasons, to reissue these recordings as physical discs.

So I bought the Klemperer Brahms cycle as downloads. I bought Les Siecles' Pictures at an Exhibition as downloads too. All the CDs I acquired before about 2007 I ripped with proprietary software on my desktop.

Andrew Clarke
Canberra

On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 12:16:14 PM UTC+11, raymond....@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, 4 February 2023 at 10:35:26 UTC+11, Pluted Pup wrote:
> > On Fri, 03 Feb 2023 06:34:33 -0800, Andrew Clarke wrote:
> >
> > > On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 10:15:00 AM UTC+11, Peter wrote:
> > > > Thanks. Alas, they have only walnut, when all of my other cabinets are oak. No mixed forest communities for me....
> > > >
> > > > I get the impression that the world of CD storage is shrinking by the week.
> > >
> > > Just like the world of CD players, I'm afraid. I've also read that BluRay discs are on their way out. The time may well come when the Katy Perry brigade buy vinyl, but the rest of us buy downloads or stream, and buy DVDs of classic cinema that doesn't get onto the streaming services, e.g. the crime films of Jean-Pierre Melville, which I'm still trying to work out after umpteen viewings; the fact that nearly all his male characters wear the same kinds of trench coats and hats doesn't help. Even DVDs may become a means of transporting video from publisher to viewer (who will then rip the disc) rather than a permanent medium.
> > You might be happy with that if you are a "HIP" advocate. Older
> > recordings are less likely to be HIP so throwing away the old
> > and sticking with the new is a way to keep "relevant". But
> > not all of us believe that newer is always better.
> >
> > I bought a new component CD Player recently, so they still exist.
> Yes they still do.
>
> Also, there is no way I'm going to stop a nearly 40 year old physical CD habit, when the 40 years represents 40 years of painstaking research, locating, finding reviews, sampling, refining, etc., to suddenly suit a vogue to download the present pile of stuff, when I have it already, with booklets and memories.
>
> Think of all the Dude, Makela and Rattle efforts I haven't got, and colour me extremely lucky.
>
> Ray Hall, Taree

Again, the format - physical CD or digital file - doesn't correspond with the age - recent or otherwise - of the recording. It's in many ways a matter of convenience. If you have enough room in your house for 15,000 CDs and you can find appropriate shelving, go ahead. I haven't got room in our little 3 bedroom townhouse for 1,000 CDs without provoking a walkout. So I smiled sweetly at my spouse, and in response to a complaint about the lack of wall space, suggested that i could get rid of most of my CDs and shelving, but it would cost us. She was quite happy for me to do this of course, so I downloaded dbPowerAmp, a cheap laptop, an external hard drive, the current version of JRiver Media Centre and set to work (the DVD ripping followed on immediately). I found in the course of doing this that there were certain unforeseen advantages. One is that I can store stuff like Haydn symphonies and Scarlatti sonatas in numerical order, without having to look through umpteen CDs to find the one I want, or to keep a separate index. Another is the ability to rearrange my collection without risking lower back problems. A third is the ease of storing backup copies on something like Google Drive. A fourth, as I get older, is the ability to find and play music without having to find the physical disc, which may or may not be where I found it last Wednesday. And I can play stuff on the bus or in doctor's waiting-rooms if I want to.

As for the conductors you mention, I can see Dudamel and Rattle in the Digital Concert Hall, while as far as I know, Makela's only recording is the Sibelius cycle which I bought as a download from Presto Music.

Andrew Clarke
Canberra

On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 11:05:30 AM UTC+11, Peter wrote:
> Aside from the price, two problems in ascending order: it's double width, and unless I live a lot longer and get even more obsessed, I won't need the capacity; and the store is shuttered until March, they say, and I suspect longer.
> > What was wrong with the one I posted? The price? It is exactly as you described. Oak, 10 shelves, no blocking side moldings.
> >
> >
> >
> > https://www.onewayfurniture.com/wood-shed-1002-3.html

Meanwhile, the physical CDs and DVDs I've kept are on old melamine book shelving with extra shelves added to increase capacity. They're in the garage ...

Andrew Clarke
Canberra

On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 8:06:06 PM UTC-8, andrewc...@gmail.com wrote:

> ... so I downloaded dbPowerAmp, a cheap laptop, an external hard drive, the current version of JRiver Media Centre and set to work (the DVD ripping followed on immediately). I found in the course of doing this that there were certain unforeseen advantages. One is that I can store stuff like Haydn symphonies and Scarlatti sonatas in numerical order, without having to look through umpteen CDs to find the one I want, or to keep a separate index. Another is the ability to rearrange my collection without risking lower back problems. A third is the ease of storing backup copies on something like Google Drive. A fourth, as I get older, is the ability to find and play music without having to find the physical disc, which may or may not be where I found it last Wednesday. And I can play stuff on the bus or in doctor's waiting-rooms if I want to.

I do the same thing... but I am pretty much paranoid about my drive failing, or Google Drive failing... so I have several external drives that are copies, and I keep one of them off-site (in the car) at all times. This helps me to sleep at night... and I update all drives on a regular schedule so that any losses will be minimal.

On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 3:22:06 PM UTC+11, pnal...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 8:06:06 PM UTC-8, andrewc...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > ... so I downloaded dbPowerAmp, a cheap laptop, an external hard drive, the current version of JRiver Media Centre and set to work (the DVD ripping followed on immediately). I found in the course of doing this that there were certain unforeseen advantages. One is that I can store stuff like Haydn symphonies and Scarlatti sonatas in numerical order, without having to look through umpteen CDs to find the one I want, or to keep a separate index. Another is the ability to rearrange my collection without risking lower back problems. A third is the ease of storing backup copies on something like Google Drive. A fourth, as I get older, is the ability to find and play music without having to find the physical disc, which may or may not be where I found it last Wednesday. And I can play stuff on the bus or in doctor's waiting-rooms if I want to.
>
> I do the same thing... but I am pretty much paranoid about my drive failing, or Google Drive failing... so I have several external drives that are copies, and I keep one of them off-site (in the car) at all times. This helps me to sleep at night... and I update all drives on a regular schedule so that any losses will be minimal.

Hard drives can and do fail, so you're being wise. I keep a spare hard drive myself. I think you're being a bit over-anxious about Google Drive, although downloading is very much a bit-by-bit process. Everything is zipped automatically beforehand, and the files that are downloaded are a bit haphazard ...

Andrew Clarke
Canberra

On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 6:01:15 AM UTC-5, Andy Evans wrote:
> Lateral thinking - record all your CDs onto an external hard disc and play them in something like iTunes.
>
> I did that years ago, so all the CDs are in stored in boxes out of the way.
>
> Big advantage - you can make playlists and listen to exactly what you want. I have loads of playlists in iTunes.

I think some people here would need an AWS Snowmobile to handle the storage for their collections.