In 2013, there was only one woman among the most active conductors
worldwide...

In 2022, there were 12 (!): Elim *Chan* and Xian *Zhang*
(China)...Karina *Canellakis* and Marin *Alsop* (US)...Nathalie
*Stutzmann* (Mon si beau pays)...Mirga *Grazinyte* - *Tyla*
(Lithuania). ...Gemma *New* (New Zealand)...Dalia *Stavevska*
(Ukraine)...Simone *Young* (Australia)...Joana *Malwitz*
(Germany)...Kristiina *Poska* (Estonia) and Barabara *Hannigan*
(Canada)...

[Sources : Bachtrack]

It evolves...slowly...Very slowly...Too fast ?...

MELMOTH - mysogine ? He asks the question...

On Friday, February 17, 2023 at 3:57:39 AM UTC-8, MELMOTH wrote:
>
> In 2013, there was only one woman among
> the most active conductors worldwide...

In 2013 you could only count up to one ?!?

dk

On Friday, February 17, 2023 at 12:57:39 PM UTC+1, MELMOTH wrote:
>
>
> MELMOTH - mysogine ? He asks the question...

It's never a good sign when people are talking about themselves in the 3d person.

On Friday, February 17, 2023 at 6:33:15 AM UTC-8, Herman wrote:
> On Friday, February 17, 2023 at 12:57:39 PM UTC+1, MELMOTH wrote:
> >
> >
> > MELMOTH - mysogine ? He asks the question...
>
> It's never a good sign when people are
> talking about themselves in the 3d person.

Still better than when they talk about
themselves in the 4th person.

dk

Does Alondra de la Parra count? Orchestre de Paris......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iqZ-lyUsNM.

On Friday, February 17, 2023 at 3:25:53 PM UTC-8, Andy Evans wrote:
>
> Does Alondra de la Parra count? Orchestre de Paris......
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iqZ-lyUsNM.

Count in what sense? She is obviously one of
the more prominent women conductors, and
she is quite good -- certainly better than that
Klaus clown. I would not rank her the same
level as Tomomi. OTOH she is younger and
has time to grow.

dk

On Friday, February 17, 2023 at 3:40:46 PM UTC-8, Dan Koren wrote:
> On Friday, February 17, 2023 at 3:25:53 PM UTC-8, Andy Evans wrote:
> >
> > Does Alondra de la Parra count? Orchestre de Paris......
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iqZ-lyUsNM.
> Count in what sense? She is obviously one of
> the more prominent women conductors, and
> she is quite good -- certainly better than that
> Klaus clown. I would not rank her the same
> level as Tomomi. OTOH she is younger and
> has time to grow.
>

Here are side by side Tchaikovsky 5th live
performances by Alondra and Tomomi:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpQtkv-eulg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEtz7ZpPpTw

Both are great readings. Figure out which
one you like better. Essays due by Sunday.
Herman is excused.

dk

On Saturday, 18 February 2023 at 11:09:05 UTC+11, Dan Koren wrote:
> On Friday, February 17, 2023 at 3:40:46 PM UTC-8, Dan Koren wrote:
> > On Friday, February 17, 2023 at 3:25:53 PM UTC-8, Andy Evans wrote:
> > >
> > > Does Alondra de la Parra count? Orchestre de Paris......
> > >
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iqZ-lyUsNM.
> > Count in what sense? She is obviously one of
> > the more prominent women conductors, and
> > she is quite good -- certainly better than that
> > Klaus clown. I would not rank her the same
> > level as Tomomi. OTOH she is younger and
> > has time to grow.
> >
> Here are side by side Tchaikovsky 5th live
> performances by Alondra and Tomomi:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpQtkv-eulg
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEtz7ZpPpTw
>
> Both are great readings. Figure out which
> one you like better. Essays due by Sunday.
> Herman is excused.
>
> dk

De la Parra wins this one. Not even close. In fact probably one of the best Tchaik 5ths I've heard.

Ray Hall, Taree

On Friday, February 17, 2023 at 6:32:07 PM UTC-8, raymond....@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, 18 February 2023 at 11:09:05 UTC+11, Dan Koren wrote:
> > On Friday, February 17, 2023 at 3:40:46 PM UTC-8, Dan Koren wrote:
> > > On Friday, February 17, 2023 at 3:25:53 PM UTC-8, Andy Evans wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Does Alondra de la Parra count? Orchestre de Paris......
> > > >
> > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iqZ-lyUsNM.
> > > Count in what sense? She is obviously one of
> > > the more prominent women conductors, and
> > > she is quite good -- certainly better than that
> > > Klaus clown. I would not rank her the same
> > > level as Tomomi. OTOH she is younger and
> > > has time to grow.
> > >
> > Here are side by side Tchaikovsky 5th live
> > performances by Alondra and Tomomi:
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpQtkv-eulg
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEtz7ZpPpTw
> >
> > Both are great readings. Figure out which
> > one you like better. Essays due by Sunday.
> > Herman is excused.
>
> De la Parra wins this one. Not even close. In
> fact probably one of the best Tchaik 5ths I've
> heard.

De la Parra's performance comes across more
lively and more in one's face, partly as a result
of being recorded more closely. It also sounds
rather rough in places. The QSO is no match
for the Bolshoi, which sounds more integrated.
Tomomi's reading manages flow and tension
in manner that keeps one on the seat's edge.

What I find fascinating in Tomomi's reading is
a cross between Mravinsky's relentless forward
momentum with Celi's rhythmic flexibility and
subtle phrasing, which I never imagined would
be possible.

A more recent Tomomi performance is here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXmsd2WZmuI

Here are a few other references:

Mravinsky: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sx_ol8myuRg
Celibidachevsky: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrYCMD25Djo
Mengelbergsky: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVYT6LdrZuQ

dk