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 by: Dan Koren - Thu, 23 Feb 2023 06:55 UTC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFQlVVJTO_U

dk

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 by: Pluted Pup - Fri, 24 Feb 2023 21:10 UTC

On Wed, 22 Feb 2023 22:55:47 -0800, Dan Koren wrote:

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFQlVVJTO_U

Wrong link, try:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ifk5Swd8WHk

It doesn't sound as musical as Arrau:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kss_U_Wks7M

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 by: Dan Koren - Sat, 25 Feb 2023 05:28 UTC

On Friday, February 24, 2023 at 1:10:28 PM UTC-8, Pluted Pup wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Feb 2023 22:55:47 -0800, Dan Koren wrote:
>
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFQlVVJTO_U
>
> Wrong link, try:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ifk5Swd8WHk

Exactly the same performance. I posted the link to
the annotated/commented video assuming that
some of the readership may not be familiar with
the score and could benefit from the commentary.

> It doesn't sound as musical as Arrau:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kss_U_Wks7M

ROTFL! If that meets one's definition of "musical"
one needs fresh concrete poured into their ears.
It would allow more sound to pass through than
whatever rocks they currently have for eardrums.

dk

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 by: Pluted Pup - Sat, 25 Feb 2023 06:10 UTC

On Fri, 24 Feb 2023 21:28:51 -0800, Dan Koren wrote:

> On Friday, February 24, 2023 at 1:10:28???PM UTC-8, Pluted Pup wrote:
> > On Wed, 22 Feb 2023 22:55:47 -0800, Dan Koren wrote:
> >
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFQlVVJTO_U
> >
> > Wrong link, try:
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ifk5Swd8WHk
>
> Exactly the same performance. I posted the link to
> the annotated/commented video assuming that
> some of the readership may not be familiar with
> the score and could benefit from the commentary.

What you linked to was a talking head, not a
musical performance.

>
> > It doesn't sound as musical as Arrau:
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kss_U_Wks7M
>
> ROTFL! If that meets one's definition of "musical"
> one needs fresh concrete poured into their ears.
> It would allow more sound to pass through than
> whatever rocks they currently have for eardrums.

I can hear the notes with Arrau, with the other
you need a talking head to tell you what you
should be listening to.

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 by: Dan Koren - Sat, 25 Feb 2023 06:28 UTC

On Friday, February 24, 2023 at 10:10:59 PM UTC-8, Pluted Pup wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Feb 2023 21:28:51 -0800, Dan Koren wrote:
> > On Friday, February 24, 2023 at 1:10:28???PM UTC-8, Pluted Pup wrote:
> > > On Wed, 22 Feb 2023 22:55:47 -0800, Dan Koren wrote:
> > >
> > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFQlVVJTO_U
> > >
> > > Wrong link, try:
> > >
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ifk5Swd8WHk
> >
> > Exactly the same performance. I posted the link to
> > the annotated/commented video assuming that
> > some of the readership may not be familiar with
> > the score and could benefit from the commentary.
>
> What you linked to was a talking head, not a
> musical performance.

I found the discussion more interesting than
the performance. Obviously other people may
think differently.

> > > It doesn't sound as musical as Arrau:
> > >
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kss_U_Wks7M
> >
> > ROTFL! If that meets one's definition of "musical"
> > one needs fresh concrete poured into their ears.
> > It would allow more sound to pass through than
> > whatever rocks they currently have for eardrums.
>
> I can hear the notes with Arrau, with the other
> you need a talking head to tell you what you
> should be listening to.

Then the problem is with your ears, not with the
performance. I can hear all the notes perfectly
in even faster readings, e.g. John Ogdon or
La Bunia:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wINKsPmpA-A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhMAFS-Lvzw

Obviously in order to hear all the notes one must
know all the notes -- do you? À chacun ses oreilles.

There is a comparison video with Treif, KB and YC:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4sBSdgfc_8

Enjoy!

dk

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 by: Dan Koren - Sat, 25 Feb 2023 06:35 UTC

On Friday, February 24, 2023 at 10:28:09 PM UTC-8, Dan Koren wrote:
> On Friday, February 24, 2023 at 10:10:59 PM UTC-8, Pluted Pup wrote:
> > On Fri, 24 Feb 2023 21:28:51 -0800, Dan Koren wrote:
> > > On Friday, February 24, 2023 at 1:10:28???PM UTC-8, Pluted Pup wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 22 Feb 2023 22:55:47 -0800, Dan Koren wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFQlVVJTO_U
> > > >
> > > > Wrong link, try:
> > > >
> > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ifk5Swd8WHk
> > >
> > > Exactly the same performance. I posted the link to
> > > the annotated/commented video assuming that
> > > some of the readership may not be familiar with
> > > the score and could benefit from the commentary.
> >
> > What you linked to was a talking head, not a
> > musical performance.
>
> I found the discussion more interesting than
> the performance. Obviously other people may
> think differently.
>
> > > > It doesn't sound as musical as Arrau:
> > > >
> > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kss_U_Wks7M
> > >
> > > ROTFL! If that meets one's definition of "musical"
> > > one needs fresh concrete poured into their ears.
> > > It would allow more sound to pass through than
> > > whatever rocks they currently have for eardrums.
> >
> > I can hear the notes with Arrau, with the other
> > you need a talking head to tell you what you
> > should be listening to.
>
> Then the problem is with your ears, not with the
> performance. I can hear all the notes perfectly
> in even faster readings, e.g. John Ogdon or
> La Bunia:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wINKsPmpA-A
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhMAFS-Lvzw
>
> Obviously in order to hear all the notes one must
> know all the notes -- do you? À chacun ses oreilles.
>
> There is a comparison video with Treif, KB and YC:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4sBSdgfc_8

And for the brave of heart and hard of hearing there
is of cours La Wang:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg7JtsQt7DY

In fairness, she was only 14 at the time.

Mélodie Zhao managed a bit better at the same age:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d18VJL4nB84

Enjoy!

dk

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