Here's a post of my latest review, of a TV movie based on a sci fi story, aired at just the wrong time to look like a ripoff of Groundhog Day. I also talk about the story and an earlier short film with Kurtwood Smith. Wanted to say more about the short; among other things, Smith was apparently typecast in sensitive/ intellectual roles before Robocop.
https://trendytroodon.blogspot.com/2021/05/space-1999-one-thats-not-ripoff-of.html

David N. Brown
Mesa, Arizona

On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 10:08:12 PM UTC-4, David Brown wrote:
> Here's a post of my latest review, of a TV movie based on a sci fi story, aired at just the wrong time to look like a ripoff of Groundhog Day. I also talk about the story and an earlier short film with Kurtwood Smith. Wanted to say more about the short; among other things, Smith was apparently typecast in sensitive/ intellectual roles before Robocop.
> https://trendytroodon.blogspot.com/2021/05/space-1999-one-thats-not-ripoff-of.html
>

[quote]

Timeline repetition was the theme of several stories that preceded “Groundhog Day”:

“Christmas Every Day,” by William Dean Howells (1892)

“The Strange Life of Ivan Osokin,” by P.D. Ouspensky (1915)..

“12:01 p.m.” by Richard A. Lupoff (1973).

And “Replay” by Ken Grimwood in 1986.

In fact, Mr. Lupoff accused the makers of “Groundhog Day” of plagiarizing his story.
He eventually gave up the fight.

[/quote] - https://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/02/nytnow/latest-news-new-england-patriots-katy-perry-and-groundhog-day.html

See:

https://www.fanac.org/timebinders/lupoff.html

--
Kevin R

On Monday, May 10, 2021 at 7:59:31 PM UTC-4, Kevrob wrote:
> On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 10:08:12 PM UTC-4, David Brown wrote:
> > Here's a post of my latest review, of a TV movie based on a sci fi story, aired at just the wrong time to look like a ripoff of Groundhog Day. I also talk about the story and an earlier short film with Kurtwood Smith. Wanted to say more about the short; among other things, Smith was apparently typecast in sensitive/ intellectual roles before Robocop.
> > https://trendytroodon.blogspot.com/2021/05/space-1999-one-thats-not-ripoff-of.html
> >
> [quote]
>
> Timeline repetition was the theme of several stories that preceded “Groundhog Day”:
>
> “Christmas Every Day,” by William Dean Howells (1892)
>
> “The Strange Life of Ivan Osokin,” by P.D. Ouspensky (1915).
>
> “12:01 p.m.” by Richard A. Lupoff (1973).
>
> And “Replay” by Ken Grimwood in 1986.
>
> In fact, Mr. Lupoff accused the makers of “Groundhog Day” of plagiarizing his story.
> He eventually gave up the fight.
>
> [/quote] - https://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/02/nytnow/latest-news-new-england-patriots-katy-perry-and-groundhog-day.html
>
> See:
>
> https://www.fanac.org/timebinders/lupoff.html

Also "The Tunnel Under the World", Frederick Pohl, 1950s sometime.

William Hyde

On 2021-05-10, David Brown <davidnbrown80@gmail.com> wrote:

> https://trendytroodon.blogspot.com/2021/05/space-1999-one-thats-not-ripoff-of.html

That one made a big impression on me when I first saw it on TV.
It's still my go-to example for the prototypical time loop plot.
(I've never seen Groundhog Day.) I was very happy when I could
acquire it on DVD.

Since then, time loops have become a standard trope of science
fiction and magical fantasy TV shows. Much like the body swap
episode, if a show keeps running for long enough, it will eventually
feature this type of story. It's even been the main conceit of
some series as well as movies.

| Then things really go awry with the romance arc, exactly where far
| higher profile productions than this routinely end up in solid
| “cringe” territory.

I'm not sure how much pause this gave me at the time. Nowadays,
I'm surprised when people laud the romances of _The Time Traveler's
Wife_ and _About Time_, both of which I found surpremely creepy.

I haven't rewatched _12:01_ in, like, forever. I imagine it has
aged poorly. And yes, it somehow feels like the last memorable TV
movie by a US broadcast network.

--
Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de

Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de> wrote:
> On 2021-05-10, David Brown <davidnbrown80@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> https://trendytroodon.blogspot.com/2021/05/space-1999-one-thats-not-ripoff-of.html
>
> That one made a big impression on me when I first saw it on TV.
> It's still my go-to example for the prototypical time loop plot.
> (I've never seen Groundhog Day.) I was very happy when I could
> acquire it on DVD.
>
> Since then, time loops have become a standard trope of science
> fiction and magical fantasy TV shows. Much like the body swap
> episode, if a show keeps running for long enough, it will eventually
> feature this type of story. It's even been the main conceit of
> some series as well as movies.
>
> | Then things really go awry with the romance arc, exactly where far
> | higher profile productions than this routinely end up in solid
> | “cringe” territory.
>
> I'm not sure how much pause this gave me at the time. Nowadays,
> I'm surprised when people laud the romances of _The Time Traveler's
> Wife_ and _About Time_, both of which I found surpremely creepy.
>
> I haven't rewatched _12:01_ in, like, forever. I imagine it has
> aged poorly. And yes, it somehow feels like the last memorable TV
> movie by a US broadcast network.

My sister-in-law recently watched _About Time_ for the first time with
me and she loved it. Rachel McAdams, a ginger haired man, and an
accented British setting was a sure bet, given my sister-in-law's
fondness for her ancestral country.
My ladies (of all ages) up and leave a movie right in the middle
whenever they find it offensive. Thus far, none of them has walked out
on _About Time_ nor _The Time Traveler's Wife_. If anything, they
identify with Rachel McAdams' multi-generational families in both
pictures. Any real or imagined grooming (the precursor of creepy
feelings?) fails to register with my ladies.

Before his recent demise, Lupkoff added a pair of short story sequels,
"12:02 P.M." and "12:03 P.M.," to "12:01." This thread provided me with
a good excuse to re-read the trio. (Thank you David for this thread, to
trigger my re-read.)
A fast paced "12:01 P.M." kicks off the /trilogy/ (ROTFLMAO). In it
we meet Manhattanite Myron Castleman, stuck in the same springtime lunch
hour no matter what.
In "12:02 P.M.," written almost forty years later, "It's déjà vu all
over again." At least until Kastleman uses some English. Although the
third installment returns to Myron Castleman, it's ending remains
relatively enigmatic, despite my multiple recent re-reads. Regardless,
it does contain a bit of alternate history to provide a nice set up for
the last story mentioned in this dispatch.

Besides similar stories mentioned by others elsewhere in this thread,
there's my current read, _Es war dreimal..._ AKA _Thrice Upon a Time_
(Hogan). It contains a time travel replay romance story element.

Danke,

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Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de> wrote:
>
> Since then, time loops have become a standard trope of science
> fiction and magical fantasy TV shows. Much like the body swap
> episode, if a show keeps running for long enough, it will eventually
> feature this type of story. It's even been the main conceit of
> some series as well as movies.
>

Hmm. I wonder if any show has ever gotten around to do an episode
that's both a body swap, time loop _and_ musical episode. It sounds
like something scriptwriters might decide to do as a lark.
--
Leif Roar Moldskred
Maybe set the whole thing in the mirror, goatee universe

On Wednesday, 12 May 2021 at 16:59:45 UTC+1, Leif Roar Moldskred wrote:
> Christian Weisgerber <na...@mips.inka.de> wrote:
> >
> > Since then, time loops have become a standard trope of science
> > fiction and magical fantasy TV shows. Much like the body swap
> > episode, if a show keeps running for long enough, it will eventually
> > feature this type of story. It's even been the main conceit of
> > some series as well as movies.
> >
> Hmm. I wonder if any show has ever gotten around to do an episode
> that's both a body swap, time loop _and_ musical episode. It sounds
> like something scriptwriters might decide to do as a lark.
>
> --
> Leif Roar Moldskred
> Maybe set the whole thing in the mirror, goatee universe

I just noticed your last line in time to cancel my first reply...

But what would be the purpose, except to have made only
one episode that no one wants to see ever again, instead of
three (four?)

What Stark Trek episodes count? "The Naked Time" perhaps?
"The Way to Eden"? _How Much For Just The Planet?_

In article <321e382a-90c4-407c-8c8a-c7649ec0ecb9n@googlegroups.com>,
Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> wrote:
>On Wednesday, 12 May 2021 at 16:59:45 UTC+1, Leif Roar Moldskred wrote:
>> Christian Weisgerber <na...@mips.inka.de> wrote:
>> >
>> > Since then, time loops have become a standard trope of science
>> > fiction and magical fantasy TV shows. Much like the body swap
>> > episode, if a show keeps running for long enough, it will eventually
>> > feature this type of story. It's even been the main conceit of
>> > some series as well as movies.
>> >
>> Hmm. I wonder if any show has ever gotten around to do an episode
>> that's both a body swap, time loop _and_ musical episode. It sounds
>> like something scriptwriters might decide to do as a lark.
>>
>> --
>> Leif Roar Moldskred
>> Maybe set the whole thing in the mirror, goatee universe
>
>I just noticed your last line in time to cancel my first reply...
>
>But what would be the purpose, except to have made only
>one episode that no one wants to see ever again, instead of
>three (four?)
>
>What Stark Trek episodes count? "The Naked Time" perhaps?
>"The Way to Eden"? _How Much For Just The Planet?_

Xena did all three, though not together. The musical & body-swap are
beloved, and the time-loop is, I think, considered OK if not a top ep.
--
columbiaclosings.com
What's not in Columbia anymore..

On 12 May 2021 16:40:22 GMT, ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan
<tednolan>) wrote:

>In article <321e382a-90c4-407c-8c8a-c7649ec0ecb9n@googlegroups.com>,
>Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> wrote:
>>On Wednesday, 12 May 2021 at 16:59:45 UTC+1, Leif Roar Moldskred wrote:
>>> Christian Weisgerber <na...@mips.inka.de> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Since then, time loops have become a standard trope of science
>>> > fiction and magical fantasy TV shows. Much like the body swap
>>> > episode, if a show keeps running for long enough, it will eventually
>>> > feature this type of story. It's even been the main conceit of
>>> > some series as well as movies.
>>> >
>>> Hmm. I wonder if any show has ever gotten around to do an episode
>>> that's both a body swap, time loop _and_ musical episode. It sounds
>>> like something scriptwriters might decide to do as a lark.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Leif Roar Moldskred
>>> Maybe set the whole thing in the mirror, goatee universe
>>
>>I just noticed your last line in time to cancel my first reply...
>>
>>But what would be the purpose, except to have made only
>>one episode that no one wants to see ever again, instead of
>>three (four?)
>>
>>What Stark Trek episodes count? "The Naked Time" perhaps?
>>"The Way to Eden"? _How Much For Just The Planet?_
>
>Xena did all three, though not together. The musical & body-swap are
>beloved, and the time-loop is, I think, considered OK if not a top ep.

I enjoyed the time loop.

On Thursday, May 13, 2021 at 2:40:26 AM UTC+10, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
> In article <321e382a-90c4-407c...@googlegroups.com>,
> Robert Carnegie <rja.ca...@excite.com> wrote:
> >On Wednesday, 12 May 2021 at 16:59:45 UTC+1, Leif Roar Moldskred wrote:
> >> Christian Weisgerber <na...@mips.inka.de> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Since then, time loops have become a standard trope of science
> >> > fiction and magical fantasy TV shows. Much like the body swap
> >> > episode, if a show keeps running for long enough, it will eventually
> >> > feature this type of story. It's even been the main conceit of
> >> > some series as well as movies.
> >> >
> >> Hmm. I wonder if any show has ever gotten around to do an episode
> >> that's both a body swap, time loop _and_ musical episode. It sounds
> >> like something scriptwriters might decide to do as a lark.
> >>
> >> Maybe set the whole thing in the mirror, goatee universe
> >
> >I just noticed your last line in time to cancel my first reply...
> >
> >But what would be the purpose, except to have made only
> >one episode that no one wants to see ever again, instead of
> >three (four?)
> >
> >What Stark Trek episodes count? "The Naked Time" perhaps?
> >"The Way to Eden"? _How Much For Just The Planet?_
> Xena did all three, though not together. The musical & body-swap are
> beloved, and the time-loop is, I think, considered OK if not a top ep.

Buffy did the body swap and musical episodes, the musical was massively loved, the body swap was generally good (helped by Eliza Dushku and Sarah Michelle Gellar throwing themselves into things with great enthusiasm)

On Wednesday, May 12, 2021 at 12:21:09 PM UTC-4, Robert Carnegie wrote:
> On Wednesday, 12 May 2021 at 16:59:45 UTC+1, Leif Roar Moldskred wrote:

[snip]

> > Hmm. I wonder if any show has ever gotten around to do an episode
> > that's both a body swap, time loop _and_ musical episode. It sounds
> > like something scriptwriters might decide to do as a lark.

[snip]

> But what would be the purpose, except to have made only
> one episode that no one wants to see ever again, instead of
> three (four?)

To do it as a parody of those tropes?

A character with a good singing voice swapped into a body with a
tin ear could be amusing.

--
Kevin R

On Wednesday, 12 May 2021 at 17:21:09 UTC+1, Robert Carnegie wrote:
> On Wednesday, 12 May 2021 at 16:59:45 UTC+1, Leif Roar Moldskred wrote:
> > Christian Weisgerber <na...@mips.inka.de> wrote:
> > >
> > > Since then, time loops have become a standard trope of science
> > > fiction and magical fantasy TV shows. Much like the body swap
> > > episode, if a show keeps running for long enough, it will eventually
> > > feature this type of story. It's even been the main conceit of
> > > some series as well as movies.
> > >
> > Hmm. I wonder if any show has ever gotten around to do an episode
> > that's both a body swap, time loop _and_ musical episode. It sounds
> > like something scriptwriters might decide to do as a lark.
> >
> > --
> > Leif Roar Moldskred
> > Maybe set the whole thing in the mirror, goatee universe
> I just noticed your last line in time to cancel my first reply...
>
> But what would be the purpose, except to have made only
> one episode that no one wants to see ever again, instead of
> three (four?)
>
> What Stark Trek episodes count? "The Naked Time" perhaps?
> "The Way to Eden"? _How Much For Just The Planet?_

I'm a little disappointed that no one asked me
what "Stark Trek" is ;-)

On Sunday, May 16, 2021 at 1:25:43 PM UTC-4, Robert Carnegie wrote:
> On Wednesday, 12 May 2021 at 17:21:09 UTC+1, Robert Carnegie wrote:

[snip]

> > What Stark Trek episodes count? "The Naked Time" perhaps?
> > "The Way to Eden"? _How Much For Just The Planet?_
> I'm a little disappointed that no one asked me
> what "Stark Trek" is ;-)

This?

https://www.wattpad.com/693810512-star-trek-finds-stark-trek

--
Kevin R

In article <640f6308-73b1-40e9-b2e0-3ef27ccb1c8cn@googlegroups.com>,
Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> wrote:
>On Wednesday, 12 May 2021 at 17:21:09 UTC+1, Robert Carnegie wrote:
>> On Wednesday, 12 May 2021 at 16:59:45 UTC+1, Leif Roar Moldskred wrote:
>> > Christian Weisgerber <na...@mips.inka.de> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Since then, time loops have become a standard trope of science
>> > > fiction and magical fantasy TV shows. Much like the body swap
>> > > episode, if a show keeps running for long enough, it will eventually
>> > > feature this type of story. It's even been the main conceit of
>> > > some series as well as movies.
>> > >
>> > Hmm. I wonder if any show has ever gotten around to do an episode
>> > that's both a body swap, time loop _and_ musical episode. It sounds
>> > like something scriptwriters might decide to do as a lark.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Leif Roar Moldskred
>> > Maybe set the whole thing in the mirror, goatee universe
>> I just noticed your last line in time to cancel my first reply...
>>
>> But what would be the purpose, except to have made only
>> one episode that no one wants to see ever again, instead of
>> three (four?)
>>
>> What Stark Trek episodes count? "The Naked Time" perhaps?
>> "The Way to Eden"? _How Much For Just The Planet?_
>
>I'm a little disappointed that no one asked me
>what "Stark Trek" is ;-)

Okay, what is it?

--
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/

On Sunday, 16 May 2021 at 19:35:03 UTC+1, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
> In article <640f6308-73b1-40e9...@googlegroups.com>,
> Robert Carnegie <rja.ca...@excite.com> wrote:
> >On Wednesday, 12 May 2021 at 17:21:09 UTC+1, Robert Carnegie wrote:
> >> On Wednesday, 12 May 2021 at 16:59:45 UTC+1, Leif Roar Moldskred wrote:
> >> > Christian Weisgerber <na...@mips.inka.de> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Since then, time loops have become a standard trope of science
> >> > > fiction and magical fantasy TV shows. Much like the body swap
> >> > > episode, if a show keeps running for long enough, it will eventually
> >> > > feature this type of story. It's even been the main conceit of
> >> > > some series as well as movies.
> >> > >
> >> > Hmm. I wonder if any show has ever gotten around to do an episode
> >> > that's both a body swap, time loop _and_ musical episode. It sounds
> >> > like something scriptwriters might decide to do as a lark.
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Leif Roar Moldskred
> >> > Maybe set the whole thing in the mirror, goatee universe
> >> I just noticed your last line in time to cancel my first reply...
> >>
> >> But what would be the purpose, except to have made only
> >> one episode that no one wants to see ever again, instead of
> >> three (four?)
> >>
> >> What Stark Trek episodes count? "The Naked Time" perhaps?
> >> "The Way to Eden"? _How Much For Just The Planet?_
> >
> >I'm a little disappointed that no one asked me
> >what "Stark Trek" is ;-)
> Okay, what is it?

I didn't say I know, I just wanted people to ask.

Well, I do know, I was thinking of the words "Star Trek"
in the wrong order. But I thought people might choose
not to understand that.

On 5/11/2021 3:44 PM, Christian Weisgerber wrote:
> On 2021-05-10, David Brown <davidnbrown80@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> https://trendytroodon.blogspot.com/2021/05/space-1999-one-thats-not-ripoff-of.html
>
> That one made a big impression on me when I first saw it on TV.
> It's still my go-to example for the prototypical time loop plot.
> (I've never seen Groundhog Day.) I was very happy when I could
> acquire it on DVD.
>
> Since then, time loops have become a standard trope of science
> fiction and magical fantasy TV shows. Much like the body swap
> episode, if a show keeps running for long enough, it will eventually
> feature this type of story. It's even been the main conceit of
> some series as well as movies.
>
> | Then things really go awry with the romance arc, exactly where far
> | higher profile productions than this routinely end up in solid
> | “cringe” territory.
>
> I'm not sure how much pause this gave me at the time. Nowadays,
> I'm surprised when people laud the romances of _The Time Traveler's
> Wife_ and _About Time_, both of which I found surpremely creepy.
>
> I haven't rewatched _12:01_ in, like, forever. I imagine it has
> aged poorly. And yes, it somehow feels like the last memorable TV
> movie by a US broadcast network.
>

Here's a link to the full movie on Utube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZPRJQuMH2Y

--
https://twitter.com/Non_Linear1

On 5/9/2021 10:08 PM, David Brown wrote:
> Here's a post of my latest review, of a TV movie based on a sci fi story, aired at just the wrong time to look like a ripoff of Groundhog Day. I also talk about the story and an earlier short film with Kurtwood Smith. Wanted to say more about the short; among other things, Smith was apparently typecast in sensitive/ intellectual roles before Robocop.
> https://trendytroodon.blogspot.com/2021/05/space-1999-one-thats-not-ripoff-of.html
>
> David N. Brown
> Mesa, Arizona
>

Must be good, Amazon wants $90 for the DVD~

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000BZN1NM?ref_=imdbref_tt_wbr_amazon&tag=imdbtag_tt_wbr_amazon-20

Even though the full movie is available on UTube here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZPRJQuMH2Y

I fell in love with Helen Slater in Ruthless People
which was a great comedy imo.

--
https://twitter.com/Non_Linear1

In article <ec437c36-cb5f-451b-a2bb-328d30d9a100n@googlegroups.com>,
Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> wrote:
>On Sunday, 16 May 2021 at 19:35:03 UTC+1, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>> In article <640f6308-73b1-40e9...@googlegroups.com>,
>> Robert Carnegie <rja.ca...@excite.com> wrote:
>> >On Wednesday, 12 May 2021 at 17:21:09 UTC+1, Robert Carnegie wrote:
>> >> On Wednesday, 12 May 2021 at 16:59:45 UTC+1, Leif Roar Moldskred wrote:
>> >> > Christian Weisgerber <na...@mips.inka.de> wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Since then, time loops have become a standard trope of science
>> >> > > fiction and magical fantasy TV shows. Much like the body swap
>> >> > > episode, if a show keeps running for long enough, it will eventually
>> >> > > feature this type of story. It's even been the main conceit of
>> >> > > some series as well as movies.
>> >> > >
>> >> > Hmm. I wonder if any show has ever gotten around to do an episode
>> >> > that's both a body swap, time loop _and_ musical episode. It sounds
>> >> > like something scriptwriters might decide to do as a lark.
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Leif Roar Moldskred
>> >> > Maybe set the whole thing in the mirror, goatee universe
>> >> I just noticed your last line in time to cancel my first reply...
>> >>
>> >> But what would be the purpose, except to have made only
>> >> one episode that no one wants to see ever again, instead of
>> >> three (four?)
>> >>
>> >> What Stark Trek episodes count? "The Naked Time" perhaps?
>> >> "The Way to Eden"? _How Much For Just The Planet?_
>> >
>> >I'm a little disappointed that no one asked me
>> >what "Stark Trek" is ;-)
>> Okay, what is it?
>
>I didn't say I know, I just wanted people to ask.
>
>Well, I do know, I was thinking of the words "Star Trek"
>in the wrong order. But I thought people might choose
>not to understand that.

It could be a Leigh Bracket space adventure.
--
columbiaclosings.com
What's not in Columbia anymore..

In message <640f6308-73b1-40e9-b2e0-3ef27ccb1c8cn@googlegroups.com>
Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> wrote:

> I'm a little disappointed that no one asked me
> what "Stark Trek" is ;-)

Probably has Captain Sean Bean getting killed off in episode three...

Anthony

On Sun, 16 May 2021 11:09:43 -0700 (PDT), Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com>
wrote:

>On Sunday, May 16, 2021 at 1:25:43 PM UTC-4, Robert Carnegie wrote:
>> On Wednesday, 12 May 2021 at 17:21:09 UTC+1, Robert Carnegie wrote:
>
>[snip]
>
>> > What Stark Trek episodes count? "The Naked Time" perhaps?
>> > "The Way to Eden"? _How Much For Just The Planet?_
>> I'm a little disappointed that no one asked me
>> what "Stark Trek" is ;-)
>
>This?
>
>https://www.wattpad.com/693810512-star-trek-finds-stark-trek

clickbait.

Does it /ever/ actually discuss the topic or just play around?
--
"I begin to envy Petronius."
"I have envied him long since."

On Sun, 16 May 2021 19:07:32 -0400, Jonathan <LSA@UMich.edu> wrote:

>On 5/9/2021 10:08 PM, David Brown wrote:
>> Here's a post of my latest review, of a TV movie based on a sci fi story, aired at just the wrong time to look like a ripoff of Groundhog Day. I also talk about the story and an earlier short film with Kurtwood Smith. Wanted to say more about the short; among other things, Smith was apparently typecast in sensitive/ intellectual roles before Robocop.
>> https://trendytroodon.blogspot.com/2021/05/space-1999-one-thats-not-ripoff-of.html
>>
>> David N. Brown
>> Mesa, Arizona
>>
>
>
>Must be good, Amazon wants $90 for the DVD~
>
>https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000BZN1NM?ref_=imdbref_tt_wbr_amazon&tag=imdbtag_tt_wbr_amazon-20

That's for "Used - Like New" and claims "still in original factory
shrink wrap" which, if true, should be in pretty darn good condition.

The problem is -- how do you tell if the shrink wrap is original? I
suppose if it has enough paste-on lables and the ends are sealed under
the shrink wrap that would do it, but I have purchases a lot of DVDs
(all of which play just fine, thank you for asking) with shrink wrap
that /could/ have been applied by the seller for all I know.

It's available as "Used - Very Good" for as little as $37.16.

This would probably be my choice, as my experience has been (mostly,
to be sure, with CDs, but with some DVDs as well) that "Very Good"
generally means it will play without problems -- except for two
things:
1) It is shipped from the UK. This usually works, but is a /lot/
slower than shipping from within the USA. I also had one that, when it
showed, had apparently been sent originally to Vancouver, BC -- which
made it quite late.
2) It warns about checking the Region Code. This really matters for
DVDs for most people, as they (we, certainly with every DVD player I
ever owned and probably, for DVDs, with the BD player as well) can
only play R1 DVDs that are recorded in NTSC (not PAL). But what they
really mean is that we must /hope/ that they send R1 DVDs to the USA
and R2 DVDs to the UK and never make a mistake.

Still, I might still go for this one if I wanted it badly enough. I
have had format problems before, but not in buying DVDs from the UK
when they were said to be R1 on Amazon.

And there are two "Collectible - Like New" for $63.99 or $64.95. The
first may have been watched; the second asserts "factory original
disc" -- IOW, not a DVD-R made from the free version you link to
below. This makes them an attractive option if you want to be certain
you are getting a licensed product that might have had some work put
into it and not a rip-off, if rip-offs exist.

I hate to sound paranoid but, first of all, I am in the sense of being
very wary, and, second, I have had experiences. Not many, but
memorable.

>Even though the full movie is available on UTube here
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZPRJQuMH2Y
>
>I fell in love with Helen Slater in Ruthless People
>which was a great comedy imo.

And IMHO as well.

It is a joy each time it comes up in rotation.
--
"I begin to envy Petronius."
"I have envied him long since."

On 5/17/2021 12:56 PM, Paul S Person wrote:
> On Sun, 16 May 2021 19:07:32 -0400, Jonathan <LSA@UMich.edu> wrote:
>
>> On 5/9/2021 10:08 PM, David Brown wrote:
>>> Here's a post of my latest review, of a TV movie based on a sci fi story, aired at just the wrong time to look like a ripoff of Groundhog Day. I also talk about the story and an earlier short film with Kurtwood Smith. Wanted to say more about the short; among other things, Smith was apparently typecast in sensitive/ intellectual roles before Robocop.
>>> https://trendytroodon.blogspot.com/2021/05/space-1999-one-thats-not-ripoff-of.html
>>>
>>> David N. Brown
>>> Mesa, Arizona
>>>
>>
>>
>> Must be good, Amazon wants $90 for the DVD~
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000BZN1NM?ref_=imdbref_tt_wbr_amazon&tag=imdbtag_tt_wbr_amazon-20
>
> That's for "Used - Like New" and claims "still in original factory
> shrink wrap" which, if true, should be in pretty darn good condition.
>
> The problem is -- how do you tell if the shrink wrap is original? I
> suppose if it has enough paste-on lables and the ends are sealed under
> the shrink wrap that would do it, but I have purchases a lot of DVDs
> (all of which play just fine, thank you for asking) with shrink wrap
> that /could/ have been applied by the seller for all I know.
>
> It's available as "Used - Very Good" for as little as $37.16.
>
> This would probably be my choice, as my experience has been (mostly,
> to be sure, with CDs, but with some DVDs as well) that "Very Good"
> generally means it will play without problems -- except for two
> things:
> 1) It is shipped from the UK. This usually works, but is a /lot/
> slower than shipping from within the USA. I also had one that, when it
> showed, had apparently been sent originally to Vancouver, BC -- which
> made it quite late.
> 2) It warns about checking the Region Code. This really matters for
> DVDs for most people, as they (we, certainly with every DVD player I
> ever owned and probably, for DVDs, with the BD player as well) can
> only play R1 DVDs that are recorded in NTSC (not PAL). But what they
> really mean is that we must /hope/ that they send R1 DVDs to the USA
> and R2 DVDs to the UK and never make a mistake.
>
> Still, I might still go for this one if I wanted it badly enough. I
> have had format problems before, but not in buying DVDs from the UK
> when they were said to be R1 on Amazon.
>
> And there are two "Collectible - Like New" for $63.99 or $64.95. The
> first may have been watched; the second asserts "factory original
> disc" -- IOW, not a DVD-R made from the free version you link to
> below. This makes them an attractive option if you want to be certain
> you are getting a licensed product that might have had some work put
> into it and not a rip-off, if rip-offs exist.
>
> I hate to sound paranoid but, first of all, I am in the sense of being
> very wary, and, second, I have had experiences. Not many, but
> memorable.
>

I've been pretty lucky so far buying things online.
The reviews are a pretty good indicator for the
reliability of the seller.

About the only problem was a tool I bought online
and it was exactly what I wanted, except for one
thing, I couldn't tell from the picture it was
a scale version of the tool, half-sized.

More my fault though.

>> Even though the full movie is available on UTube here
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZPRJQuMH2Y
>>
>> I fell in love with Helen Slater in Ruthless People
>> which was a great comedy imo.
>
> And IMHO as well.
>
> It is a joy each time it comes up in rotation.
>

Couple favorite scenes from the movie

Give the bag to Bozo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PS6lNDrCi88&ab_channel=coolcar77coolcar77

She's Out!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJWUfXyOhf0&ab_channel=KikiGangerKikiGanger

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