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https://www.dropbox.com/s/s0w4zqt3zbbdgce/KV%20482.m4a?dl=0

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 by: Marc S - Tue, 14 Mar 2023 11:13 UTC

Dan Koren schrieb am Dienstag, 14. März 2023 um 10:38:10 UTC+1:
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/s0w4zqt3zbbdgce/KV%20482.m4a?dl=0

Landowska?

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 by: Marc S - Tue, 14 Mar 2023 11:27 UTC

Marc S schrieb am Dienstag, 14. März 2023 um 12:13:21 UTC+1:
> Dan Koren schrieb am Dienstag, 14. März 2023 um 10:38:10 UTC+1:
> > https://www.dropbox.com/s/s0w4zqt3zbbdgce/KV%20482.m4a?dl=0
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> Landowska?

I wouldn't have known it was her since I don't know her well enough, but I knew who it wasn't which made it easier for me to narrow it down. *Yes "we" all know this is not a quiz, but it's just normal to make guesses

I do not like the performance.

Likely Richter's is the best I heard... in any case I am not too interested in PCs or Piano Solo repertoire at the moment. Operas and symphonies and also string-chamber-music... I sometimes wonder... and you know I feel bad in saying so, because Mozart came up with this... What I wonder about is that I do often feel that the piano does not sound good with an orchestra (Trumpets + Piano for example... I do not think it works well together).... like... either solo piano; or orchestral music... but mixing it feels a bit weird. Sonatas for violin and piano are okay I guess... also trios, quartets or quintets I guess... maybe it's the brass... but then again it works well with Prokofiev PC 2 (Zak). I don't know... probably not making a lot of sense here.

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 by: Dan Koren - Tue, 14 Mar 2023 11:30 UTC

On Tuesday, March 14, 2023 at 4:13:21 AM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:
> Dan Koren schrieb am Dienstag, 14. März 2023 um 10:38:10 UTC+1:
> > https://www.dropbox.com/s/s0w4zqt3zbbdgce/KV%20482.m4a?dl=0
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> Landowska?

Yep. Good ears.

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 by: Dan Koren - Tue, 14 Mar 2023 11:31 UTC

On Tuesday, March 14, 2023 at 4:27:40 AM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:
> Marc S schrieb am Dienstag, 14. März 2023 um 12:13:21 UTC+1:
> > Dan Koren schrieb am Dienstag, 14. März 2023 um 10:38:10 UTC+1:
> > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/s0w4zqt3zbbdgce/KV%20482.m4a?dl=0
> >
> > Landowska?
>
> I do not like the performance.

Neither do I. It is rather bland and casual.
But it is better than her Bach.

> Likely Richter's is the best I heard...

Try this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h9vhIu3aUM

dk

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 by: Marc S - Tue, 14 Mar 2023 12:23 UTC

Dan Koren schrieb am Dienstag, 14. März 2023 um 12:30:48 UTC+1:
> On Tuesday, March 14, 2023 at 4:13:21 AM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:
> > Dan Koren schrieb am Dienstag, 14. März 2023 um 10:38:10 UTC+1:
> > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/s0w4zqt3zbbdgce/KV%20482.m4a?dl=0
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> > Landowska?
> Yep. Good ears.

Not really. I should have been more clear in my first message. I could not have known it was her, if I had not double-checked; I just knew who it wasn't and then looked for Landowska on yt (in my defense: I asked "Landowska ?" because I had not made a direct comparison to your dropbox-upload when I asked the question (time-delayed comparison) and wasn't 100% sure, just 99%..). I think I never heard her play before.

I only listen to and remember performers/performances that I like(d), so I would only be able to make guesses wrt pianists I am actually acquainted with (like when you uploaded Argerich's 466 I was immediately sure... 99%).

I do things sort of like this: Richter is my favourite in 482; then I listen to some other interpretation (say Landowska), and if that other interpretation is worse or outrightly sucks I will not listen to it fully (which is why I'm just not acquainted well enough with most pianists... most pianists suck, so why would I listen to them...).

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 by: Marc S - Tue, 14 Mar 2023 12:28 UTC

Dan Koren schrieb am Dienstag, 14. März 2023 um 12:31:58 UTC+1:
> On Tuesday, March 14, 2023 at 4:27:40 AM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:
> > Marc S schrieb am Dienstag, 14. März 2023 um 12:13:21 UTC+1:
> > > Dan Koren schrieb am Dienstag, 14. März 2023 um 10:38:10 UTC+1:
> > > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/s0w4zqt3zbbdgce/KV%20482.m4a?dl=0
> > >
> > > Landowska?
> >
> > I do not like the performance.
> Neither do I. It is rather bland and casual.
> But it is better than her Bach.
> > Likely Richter's is the best I heard...
> Try this one:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h9vhIu3aUM
>
> dk

Very nice (only listened to first movement fully, and bits of the others). Makes one wonder why Perahia was commissioned with recording the Mozart PCs..

I'd have to compare this to Richter (which I haven't heard in a while) directly to make a final decision. But it surely is very good.

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 by: Dan Koren - Tue, 14 Mar 2023 12:29 UTC

On Tuesday, March 14, 2023 at 5:23:44 AM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:
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> ... most pianists suck, so why would I listen to them...).

Except for those I recommend.
Some of them might spit or
bite, but they never suck!

dk

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Subject: Re: KV 482
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 by: Marc S - Tue, 14 Mar 2023 17:35 UTC

Dan Koren schrieb am Dienstag, 14. März 2023 um 13:29:16 UTC+1:
> On Tuesday, March 14, 2023 at 5:23:44 AM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:
> >
> > ... most pianists suck, so why would I listen to them...).
> Except for those I recommend.
> Some of them might spit or
> bite, but they never suck!
>
> dk

Hm. True for 99% maybe. I can see why you would consider HJ Lim above some other pianists, but to me... she just sucks.

Generally I think, good Mozart pianists seem to be generally good pianists. Unfortunately there are only a few.

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