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 by: Andrew Clarke - Fri, 19 May 2023 16:05 UTC

I was going to put this in the Later Than Brahms thread, but that discussion has been battered to death by the usual suspects.

What a work Coro is. It's for forty singers and orchestra, and in this performance the singers were distributed among the instrumentalists. It is about an hour long, and quite an experience. God knows how much rehearsal time it took: enough for about fourteen German Requiems I imagine. I saw it on the Digital Concert Hall but it's also available on YouTube.

< https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpi9eWW0Gks >

It is conducted by Sir Simon Rattle, the Philharmoniker appears to be well-filled and the applause solid.

Andrew Clarke
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> < https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpi9eWW0Gks >
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> It is conducted by Sir Simon Rattle, the Philharmoniker appears to be well-filled and the applause solid.
> > Andrew Clarke

Thanks Andrew. I'm enjoying it. Reminds me of late Stravinsky. And coming directly from Puccini I can also see a superficial resemblance there.

I'll have to give Berio more listening, though not his arrangements of Beatles songs. What I do really like is Berio's arrangement for orchestra of Falla's 7 Popular Spanish Songs.

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 by: number_six - Fri, 19 May 2023 19:12 UTC

On Friday, May 19, 2023 at 9:05:18 AM UTC-7, Andrew Clarke wrote:
> I was going to put this in the Later Than Brahms thread, but that discussion has been battered to death by the usual suspects.
>
> What a work Coro is. It's for forty singers and orchestra, and in this performance the singers were distributed among the instrumentalists. It is about an hour long, and quite an experience. God knows how much rehearsal time it took: enough for about fourteen German Requiems I imagine. I saw it on the Digital Concert Hall but it's also available on YouTube.
>
> < https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpi9eWW0Gks >
>
> It is conducted by Sir Simon Rattle, the Philharmoniker appears to be well-filled and the applause solid.
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> Andrew Clarke
> Canberra

I'm glad to hear this getting a recent performance. Coro, with the composer conducting Radio Koln, was included in the DG 20th century classics cd series.

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On Friday, May 19, 2023 at 9:23:42 AM UTC-7, Andy Evans wrote:
>'ll have to give Berio more listening, though not his arrangements of Beatles songs. What I do really like is Berio's arrangement for orchestra of Falla's 7 Popular Spanish Songs.

Recommended -- Berio, Folk Songs, Jard van Nes on Decca

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 by: raymond....@gmail.co - Fri, 19 May 2023 23:43 UTC

On Saturday, 20 May 2023 at 05:19:51 UTC+10, number_six wrote:
> On Friday, May 19, 2023 at 9:23:42 AM UTC-7, Andy Evans wrote:
> >'ll have to give Berio more listening, though not his arrangements of Beatles songs. What I do really like is Berio's arrangement for orchestra of Falla's 7 Popular Spanish Songs.
> Recommended -- Berio, Folk Songs, Jard van Nes on Decca

I also like Berio's Sinfonia with all the musical quotations, and especially the Mahler 2nd quotation that appears in the 3rd movement, and which is written as to appear veiled (behind a thick curtain). Amazing orchestral writing. Am not that keen on Coro though.

Ray Hall, Taree

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In article <37742631-7216-48b4-b00e-387c05491552n@googlegroups.com>,
raymond....@gmail.com <raymond.hallbear1@gmail.com> wrote:
>I also like Berio's Sinfonia with all the musical quotations, and
>especially the Mahler 2nd quotation that appears in the 3rd movement,
>and which is written as to appear veiled (behind a thick curtain).
>Amazing orchestral writing. Am not that keen on Coro though.

I enjoy his Piano Sonata, but it takes some work....

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 by: Andrew Clarke - Sat, 20 May 2023 05:04 UTC

On Saturday, May 20, 2023 at 5:12:10 AM UTC+10, number_six wrote:
> On Friday, May 19, 2023 at 9:05:18 AM UTC-7, Andrew Clarke wrote:
> > I was going to put this in the Later Than Brahms thread, but that discussion has been battered to death by the usual suspects.
> >
> > What a work Coro is. It's for forty singers and orchestra, and in this performance the singers were distributed among the instrumentalists. It is about an hour long, and quite an experience. God knows how much rehearsal time it took: enough for about fourteen German Requiems I imagine. I saw it on the Digital Concert Hall but it's also available on YouTube.
> >
> > < https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpi9eWW0Gks >
> >
> > It is conducted by Sir Simon Rattle, the Philharmoniker appears to be well-filled and the applause solid.
> >
> > Andrew Clarke
> > Canberra
> I'm glad to hear this getting a recent performance. Coro, with the composer conducting Radio Koln, was included in the DG 20th century classics cd series.

Actually, Number. - excuse the informality - the concert is from 2011, so not all that recent. But Sir Simon is going to conduct Schoenberg's Gurrelieder in Munich next season.

One mystery - at the end of Coro, a youngish man comes onto the stage, to be greeted by the conductor and introduced to the orchestra and the audience.. Could it be a Berio son or grandson?

Andrew Clarke
Canberra

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 by: number_six - Fri, 26 May 2023 02:31 UTC

On Friday, May 19, 2023 at 10:04:15 PM UTC-7, Andrew Clarke wrote:
> On Saturday, May 20, 2023 at 5:12:10 AM UTC+10, number_six wrote:
> > On Friday, May 19, 2023 at 9:05:18 AM UTC-7, Andrew Clarke wrote:
> > > I was going to put this in the Later Than Brahms thread, but that discussion has been battered to death by the usual suspects.
> > >
> > > What a work Coro is. It's for forty singers and orchestra, and in this performance the singers were distributed among the instrumentalists. It is about an hour long, and quite an experience. God knows how much rehearsal time it took: enough for about fourteen German Requiems I imagine. I saw it on the Digital Concert Hall but it's also available on YouTube.
> > >
> > > < https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpi9eWW0Gks >
> > >
> > > It is conducted by Sir Simon Rattle, the Philharmoniker appears to be well-filled and the applause solid.
> > >
> > > Andrew Clarke
> > > Canberra
> > I'm glad to hear this getting a recent performance. Coro, with the composer conducting Radio Koln, was included in the DG 20th century classics cd series.
> Actually, Number. - excuse the informality - the concert is from 2011, so not all that recent. But Sir Simon is going to conduct Schoenberg's Gurrelieder in Munich next season.
>
> One mystery - at the end of Coro, a youngish man comes onto the stage, to be greeted by the conductor and introduced to the orchestra and the audience. Could it be a Berio son or grandson?
>
> Andrew Clarke
> Canberra
Sorry, I don't know who is introduced.
Gurrelieder is an ambitious undertaking.

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