Analog's Children of the Future (Analog Anthologies, book 3) edited by Stanley Schmidt
https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/the-days-of-the-old-schoolyard
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On Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 7:56:29 AM UTC-6, James Nicoll wrote:
> Analog's Children of the Future (Analog Anthologies, book 3) edited by Stanley Schmidt
> https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/the-days-of-the-old-schoolyard

I'm amazed that the reviewers failed to notice that Children of the Atom was wish-fulfillment
in the "fans are slans" genre, but I guess that compared to E. E. "Doc" Smith, it actually
seemed like science-fiction "coming of age" at the time.

As for The Witches of Karres: wasn't it famous enough to get made into a movie or
something?

John Savard

On Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 8:29:18 AM UTC-6, Quadibloc wrote:

> As for The Witches of Karres: wasn't it famous enough to get made into a movie or
> something?

Ah. No movie. The "or something" is that Baen Books had three sequels written, by
Eric Flint, Dave Freer, and also, for the first one, Mercedes Lackey.

John Savard

In article <b729cdf1-69b1-4cc0-8d15-95dcd6a5fc44n@googlegroups.com>,
Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>On Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 8:29:18 AM UTC-6, Quadibloc wrote:
>
>> As for The Witches of Karres: wasn't it famous enough to get made into
>a movie or
>> something?
>
>Ah. No movie. The "or something" is that Baen Books had three sequels
>written, by
>Eric Flint, Dave Freer, and also, for the first one, Mercedes Lackey.

And I haven't read any of them (whereas my copy of _Witches_ is
falling apart from frequent reading). Should I make the attempt?
Lackey and Flint are on my don't-touch-even-with-gloves-on list,
and I never heard of Freer.

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In article <qvKozD.6G9@kithrup.com>,
Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:
>In article <b729cdf1-69b1-4cc0-8d15-95dcd6a5fc44n@googlegroups.com>,
>Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>>On Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 8:29:18 AM UTC-6, Quadibloc wrote:
>>
>>> As for The Witches of Karres: wasn't it famous enough to get made into
>>a movie or
>>> something?
>>
>>Ah. No movie. The "or something" is that Baen Books had three sequels
>>written, by
>>Eric Flint, Dave Freer, and also, for the first one, Mercedes Lackey.
>
>And I haven't read any of them (whereas my copy of _Witches_ is
>falling apart from frequent reading). Should I make the attempt?
>Lackey and Flint are on my don't-touch-even-with-gloves-on list,
>and I never heard of Freer.

The sequels fill a much needed absence.
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On Thu, 1 Jul 2021 07:34:29 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca>
wrote:

>On Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 8:29:18 AM UTC-6, Quadibloc wrote:
>
>> As for The Witches of Karres: wasn't it famous enough to get made into a movie or
>> something?
>
>Ah. No movie. The "or something" is that Baen Books had three sequels written, by
>Eric Flint, Dave Freer, and also, for the first one, Mercedes Lackey.

On the other hand, Mimsy Were the Borogoves _did_ get made into a
movie, "The Last Mimzy". IIRC it was kind of meh.

On Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 10:00:03 AM UTC-6, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:

> Lackey and Flint are on my don't-touch-even-with-gloves-on list,
> and I never heard of Freer.

I haven't heard of Freer either, but I would tend to assume that if
Flint is on that list for you, he belongs there also.

But Mercedes Lackey? I thought she was one of the good ones.

John Savard

In article <b0b244cf-209d-4347-8732-d2500be64e9en@googlegroups.com>,
Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>On Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 10:00:03 AM UTC-6, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>
>> Lackey and Flint are on my don't-touch-even-with-gloves-on list,
>> and I never heard of Freer.
>
>I haven't heard of Freer either, but I would tend to assume that if
>Flint is on that list for you, he belongs there also.
>
>But Mercedes Lackey? I thought she was one of the good ones.

I read a couple of her earliest novels, and was underwhelmed.
Partly, I think, because I was the only girl in my elementary
school who was not crazy about horses. I now treat horses with
respect, from a distance. You'll remember that I had to ask for
information about horses while writing _The Golden Road_, and you
provided me with lots; thank you.

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On Thursday, 1 July 2021 at 17:37:56 UTC+1, James Nicoll wrote:
> In article <qvKoz...@kithrup.com>,
> Dorothy J Heydt <djh...@kithrup.com> wrote:
> >In article <b729cdf1-69b1-4cc0...@googlegroups.com>,
> >Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
> >>On Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 8:29:18 AM UTC-6, Quadibloc wrote:
> >>
> >>> As for The Witches of Karres: wasn't it famous enough to get made into
> >>a movie or
> >>> something?
> >>
> >>Ah. No movie. The "or something" is that Baen Books had three sequels
> >>written, by
> >>Eric Flint, Dave Freer, and also, for the first one, Mercedes Lackey.
> >
> >And I haven't read any of them (whereas my copy of _Witches_ is
> >falling apart from frequent reading). Should I make the attempt?
> >Lackey and Flint are on my don't-touch-even-with-gloves-on list,
> >and I never heard of Freer.
>
> The sequels fill a much needed absence.

I think you're not recommending them, but
I might be not the only person struggling to
tell. The hour is late.

In article <d8806a7e-0929-4cbc-b18d-5c7febaddc45n@googlegroups.com>,
Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> wrote:
>On Thursday, 1 July 2021 at 17:37:56 UTC+1, James Nicoll wrote:
>> In article <qvKoz...@kithrup.com>,
>> Dorothy J Heydt <djh...@kithrup.com> wrote:
>> >In article <b729cdf1-69b1-4cc0...@googlegroups.com>,
>> >Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>> >>On Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 8:29:18 AM UTC-6, Quadibloc wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> As for The Witches of Karres: wasn't it famous enough to get made into
>> >>a movie or
>> >>> something?
>> >>
>> >>Ah. No movie. The "or something" is that Baen Books had three sequels
>> >>written, by
>> >>Eric Flint, Dave Freer, and also, for the first one, Mercedes Lackey.
>> >
>> >And I haven't read any of them (whereas my copy of _Witches_ is
>> >falling apart from frequent reading). Should I make the attempt?
>> >Lackey and Flint are on my don't-touch-even-with-gloves-on list,
>> >and I never heard of Freer.
>>
>> The sequels fill a much needed absence.
>
>I think you're not recommending them, but
>I might be not the only person struggling to
>tell. The hour is late.

The sequels are mediocre filler of not notable value.
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On Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 7:23:14 PM UTC-6, Robert Carnegie wrote:
> On Thursday, 1 July 2021 at 17:37:56 UTC+1, James Nicoll wrote:

> > The sequels fill a much needed absence.

> I think you're not recommending them, but
> I might be not the only person struggling to
> tell. The hour is late.

I think I heard that witticism before, so that the
absence of those sequels was what was much needed,
the filling of which deprived us of what was needed,
was obvious enough.

John Savard

On Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 8:12:19 PM UTC-6, Quadibloc wrote:
> On Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 7:23:14 PM UTC-6, Robert Carnegie wrote:
> > On Thursday, 1 July 2021 at 17:37:56 UTC+1, James Nicoll wrote:

> > > The sequels fill a much needed absence.

> > I think you're not recommending them, but
> > I might be not the only person struggling to
> > tell. The hour is late.

> I think I heard that witticism before, so that the
> absence of those sequels was what was much needed,
> the filling of which deprived us of what was needed,
> was obvious enough.

I see that the hour *is* late. Attempting to use Google to
find what I had originally encountered, I got "fill a much-needed
void" as the recommended search... but when I used it, the
examples I found made the _mistake_ of describing cases
where filling the void, rather than the void itself, was what was
needed.

So the current state of English usage is apparently deplorable.

John Savard

On Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 8:16:06 PM UTC-6, Quadibloc wrote:
> On Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 8:12:19 PM UTC-6, Quadibloc wrote:
> > On Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 7:23:14 PM UTC-6, Robert Carnegie wrote:
> > > On Thursday, 1 July 2021 at 17:37:56 UTC+1, James Nicoll wrote:

> > > > The sequels fill a much needed absence.

> > > I think you're not recommending them, but
> > > I might be not the only person struggling to
> > > tell. The hour is late.

> > I think I heard that witticism before, so that the
> > absence of those sequels was what was much needed,
> > the filling of which deprived us of what was needed,
> > was obvious enough.

> I see that the hour *is* late. Attempting to use Google to
> find what I had originally encountered, I got "fill a much-needed
> void" as the recommended search... but when I used it, the
> examples I found made the _mistake_ of describing cases
> where filling the void, rather than the void itself, was what was
> needed.

> So the current state of English usage is apparently deplorable.

Removing the quotes, and trying again, I had to go through pages
of results before getting a corrected example...

Filling the void of much-needed affordable housing in Kenya.

John Savard

Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
> On Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 7:23:14 PM UTC-6, Robert Carnegie wrote:
>> On Thursday, 1 July 2021 at 17:37:56 UTC+1, James Nicoll wrote:
>
>> > The sequels fill a much needed absence.
>
>> I think you're not recommending them, but
>> I might be not the only person struggling to
>> tell. The hour is late.
>
> I think I heard that witticism before, so that the
> absence of those sequels was what was much needed,
> the filling of which deprived us of what was needed,
> was obvious enough.

Wilson "Bob" Tucker, who coined the phrase "Space Opera," beats around
the bush a bit with _Exile of the Skies_ written by Richard Vaughan
(reportedly at the tender age of seventeen):

"I remember Richard Vaughn's novel very well, although not
clearly at this distance in years and I am pleased that it
will again be in print. I have liked it so well for such a
long time that many years ago, when an editor asked me to
recommend novels to him for reprinting, /this/ one was
never the top of my list. Unfortunately that editor did
not reprint the story and I waited until now to read it
again.

Fortunately for fans who enjoy escapist science-fiction stories,
Tucker's oppressive opinion opus ended a while ago.

Danke,

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