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https://youtu.be/ziTpYrVJmig

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 by: vhorowitz - Fri, 26 May 2023 01:02 UTC

On Thursday, May 25, 2023 at 5:12:59 PM UTC-5, Dan Koren wrote:
> https://youtu.be/ziTpYrVJmig

Haha, that Matsuev pissed on the said Appissionata doesn’t surprise me at all, since Matsuev and superb in the same sentence is as oxymoronic as it gets.

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 by: Dan Koren - Fri, 26 May 2023 02:02 UTC

On Thursday, May 25, 2023 at 6:02:10 PM UTC-7, vhorowitz wrote:
> On Thursday, May 25, 2023 at 5:12:59 PM UTC-5, Dan Koren wrote:
> > https://youtu.be/ziTpYrVJmig
>
> Haha, that Matsuev pissed on the said
> Appissionata doesn’t surprise me at all,
> since Matsuev and superb in the same
> sentence is as oxymoronic as it gets.

Far less so than Arrau or Backhaus.

dk

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 by: Marc S - Fri, 26 May 2023 05:54 UTC

vhorowitz schrieb am Freitag, 26. Mai 2023 um 03:02:10 UTC+2:
> On Thursday, May 25, 2023 at 5:12:59 PM UTC-5, Dan Koren wrote:
> > https://youtu.be/ziTpYrVJmig
>
> Haha, that Matsuev pissed on the said Appissionata doesn’t surprise me at all, since Matsuev and superb in the same sentence is as oxymoronic as it gets.

Haha - I agree with everything you said... Matsuev is horrible - no sense for music at all...

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 by: Marc S - Fri, 26 May 2023 06:04 UTC

Marc S schrieb am Freitag, 26. Mai 2023 um 07:54:39 UTC+2:
> vhorowitz schrieb am Freitag, 26. Mai 2023 um 03:02:10 UTC+2:
> > On Thursday, May 25, 2023 at 5:12:59 PM UTC-5, Dan Koren wrote:
> > > https://youtu.be/ziTpYrVJmig
> >
> > Haha, that Matsuev pissed on the said Appissionata doesn’t surprise me at all, since Matsuev and superb in the same sentence is as oxymoronic as it gets.
> Haha - I agree with everything you said... Matsuev is horrible - no sense for music at all...

*I fully agree; instead of I agree with everything you said... fits better in this case...

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 by: Mandryka - Fri, 26 May 2023 10:55 UTC

On Thursday, May 25, 2023 at 11:12:59 PM UTC+1, Dan Koren wrote:
> https://youtu.be/ziTpYrVJmig

I agree with you. I'd say it was a magisterial performance, both expressive and under control. That's quite an achievement I think.

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 by: Dan Koren - Fri, 26 May 2023 11:03 UTC

On Friday, May 26, 2023 at 3:55:43 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> On Thursday, May 25, 2023 at 11:12:59 PM UTC+1, Dan Koren wrote:
>
> > https://youtu.be/ziTpYrVJmig
>
> I agree with you. I'd say it was a magisterial performance, both
> expressive and under control. That's quite an achievement I think.

One thing that annoys me about Matsuev is too much control, or
maybe the impression that he is always in complete control and
never flies off the rails like HJ Lim. His technique is on the same
level as Cziffra, Petrov, Sokolov or Volodos.

He also plays jazz remarkably well: https://youtu.be/llq71sLgBGU

dk

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 by: Dan Koren - Fri, 26 May 2023 11:05 UTC

On Friday, May 26, 2023 at 4:03:05 AM UTC-7, Dan Koren wrote:
> On Friday, May 26, 2023 at 3:55:43 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> > On Thursday, May 25, 2023 at 11:12:59 PM UTC+1, Dan Koren wrote:
> >
> > > https://youtu.be/ziTpYrVJmig
> >
> > I agree with you. I'd say it was a magisterial performance, both
> > expressive and under control. That's quite an achievement I think.
> One thing that annoys me about Matsuev is too much control, or
> maybe the impression that he is always in complete control and
> never flies off the rails like HJ Lim. His technique is on the same
> level as Cziffra, Petrov, Sokolov or Volodos.
>
> He also plays jazz remarkably well: https://youtu.be/llq71sLgBGU

https://youtu.be/JCfDSiQBsqA

Enjoy!

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Subject: Re: Denis Matsuev -- Superb Appissionata
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 by: Dan Koren - Fri, 26 May 2023 11:17 UTC

On Friday, May 26, 2023 at 4:03:05 AM UTC-7, Dan Koren wrote:
> On Friday, May 26, 2023 at 3:55:43 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> > On Thursday, May 25, 2023 at 11:12:59 PM UTC+1, Dan Koren wrote:
> >
> > > https://youtu.be/ziTpYrVJmig
> >
> > I agree with you. I'd say it was a magisterial performance, both
> > expressive and under control. That's quite an achievement I think.
>
> One thing that annoys me about Matsuev is too much control, or
> maybe the impression that he is always in complete control and
> never flies off the rails like HJ Lim. His technique is on the same
> level as Cziffra, Petrov, Sokolov or Volodos.

Check this: https://youtu.be/CyBq2VUgUJs

dk

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Subject: Re: Denis Matsuev -- Superb Appissionata
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 by: Mandryka - Fri, 26 May 2023 17:27 UTC

On Friday, May 26, 2023 at 12:17:50 PM UTC+1, Dan Koren wrote:
> On Friday, May 26, 2023 at 4:03:05 AM UTC-7, Dan Koren wrote:
> > On Friday, May 26, 2023 at 3:55:43 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> > > On Thursday, May 25, 2023 at 11:12:59 PM UTC+1, Dan Koren wrote:
> > >
> > > > https://youtu.be/ziTpYrVJmig
> > >
> > > I agree with you. I'd say it was a magisterial performance, both
> > > expressive and under control. That's quite an achievement I think.
> >
> > One thing that annoys me about Matsuev is too much control, or
> > maybe the impression that he is always in complete control and
> > never flies off the rails like HJ Lim. His technique is on the same
> > level as Cziffra, Petrov, Sokolov or Volodos.
> Check this: https://youtu.be/CyBq2VUgUJs
>
> dk

A good example of being both obvious in control and giving that off the rails feeling is Ton Koopman's Forqueray -- the whole CD is astonishing, he makes the music sound like a baroque analogue to Liszt's TEs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQcLypEQcCs&ab_channel=TonKoopman-Topic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MgidGGuIOc&ab_channel=TonKoopman-Topic

The music is perfectly playable on piano -- I mean it only needs one keyboard. Some pianist should give it a go.

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