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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5urqd9J-Els&ab_channel=TobiasKoch-Topic

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 by: Mandryka - Fri, 26 May 2023 04:12 UTC

Robert Silvermann’s Chopin Barcarolle

https://open.spotify.com/track/1hBPE3k72qodpnWTksRqoj

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 by: Dan Koren - Fri, 26 May 2023 06:28 UTC

On Thursday, May 25, 2023 at 9:12:33 PM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> Robert Silvermann’s Chopin Barcarolle
>
> https://open.spotify.com/track/1hBPE3k72qodpnWTksRqoj

https://youtu.be/0FPVVY-PzF0 as I do not
have a Spotify account. This is not new, I
heard it when it first came out. I find it
very heavy handed. He opens alla marcia
and it never gets better from there on.

One does not hear flow, water, or even
breathing.

My current reference is still Pletnev:

https://youtu.be/0FPVVY-PzF0

dk

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 by: Dan Koren - Fri, 26 May 2023 07:27 UTC

On Thursday, May 25, 2023 at 11:28:57 PM UTC-7, Dan Koren wrote:
> On Thursday, May 25, 2023 at 9:12:33 PM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> > Robert Silvermann’s Chopin Barcarolle
> >
> > https://open.spotify.com/track/1hBPE3k72qodpnWTksRqoj
> https://youtu.be/0FPVVY-PzF0 as I do not
> have a Spotify account. This is not new, I
> heard it when it first came out. I find it
> very heavy handed. He opens alla marcia
> and it never gets better from there on.
>
> One does not hear flow, water, or even
> breathing.
>
> My current reference is still Pletnev:
>
> https://youtu.be/0FPVVY-PzF0

Other Barcarolle readings I like:

AdL: https://youtu.be/XJfeIyYVqz4

CYH: https://youtu.be/_SPtOdMggPo

Cziffra: https://youtu.be/64GE8wBa0yE

HJ Lim: https://youtu.be/baw7rBKKAEg

Katsaris: https://youtu.be/AEszFQLdxGI

Sofronitsky: https://youtu.be/G6dKMCofOrE

Neuhaus père: https://youtu.be/oZKS1kvDQfA

Neuhaus fils: https://youtu.be/foHPpYnda7o

Enjoy!

dk

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 by: Dan Koren - Fri, 26 May 2023 07:34 UTC

On Friday, May 26, 2023 at 12:27:13 AM UTC-7, Dan Koren wrote:
> On Thursday, May 25, 2023 at 11:28:57 PM UTC-7, Dan Koren wrote:
> > On Thursday, May 25, 2023 at 9:12:33 PM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> > > Robert Silvermann’s Chopin Barcarolle
> > >
> > > https://open.spotify.com/track/1hBPE3k72qodpnWTksRqoj
> > https://youtu.be/0FPVVY-PzF0 as I do not
> > have a Spotify account. This is not new, I
> > heard it when it first came out. I find it
> > very heavy handed. He opens alla marcia
> > and it never gets better from there on.
> >
> > One does not hear flow, water, or even
> > breathing.
> >
> > My current reference is still Pletnev:
> >
> > https://youtu.be/0FPVVY-PzF0
> Other Barcarolle readings I like:
>
> AdL: https://youtu.be/XJfeIyYVqz4
>
> CYH: https://youtu.be/_SPtOdMggPo
>
> Cziffra: https://youtu.be/64GE8wBa0yE
>
> HJ Lim: https://youtu.be/baw7rBKKAEg
>
> Katsaris: https://youtu.be/AEszFQLdxGI
>
> Sofronitsky: https://youtu.be/G6dKMCofOrE
>
> Neuhaus père: https://youtu.be/oZKS1kvDQfA
>
> Neuhaus fils: https://youtu.be/foHPpYnda7o

Here is another good one:

Tony Yang: https://youtu.be/ZqdM4dzx1v8

dk

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 by: Mandryka - Fri, 26 May 2023 07:43 UTC

Yes the Silverman just caught my attention this morning and I was curious about whether you’d heard it and had an opinion. I haven’t had a chance to hear it again,

I agree with you 100% about Pletnev, as you know.

(I enjoyed sampling the DBT you posted by the way - I’ll listen more carefully later.)

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 by: Dan Koren - Fri, 26 May 2023 08:09 UTC

On Friday, May 26, 2023 at 12:34:27 AM UTC-7, Dan Koren wrote:
> On Friday, May 26, 2023 at 12:27:13 AM UTC-7, Dan Koren wrote:
> > On Thursday, May 25, 2023 at 11:28:57 PM UTC-7, Dan Koren wrote:
> > > On Thursday, May 25, 2023 at 9:12:33 PM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> > > > Robert Silvermann’s Chopin Barcarolle
> > > >
> > > > https://open.spotify.com/track/1hBPE3k72qodpnWTksRqoj
> > > https://youtu.be/0FPVVY-PzF0 as I do not
> > > have a Spotify account. This is not new, I
> > > heard it when it first came out. I find it
> > > very heavy handed. He opens alla marcia
> > > and it never gets better from there on.
> > >
> > > One does not hear flow, water, or even
> > > breathing.
> > >
> > > My current reference is still Pletnev:
> > >
> > > https://youtu.be/0FPVVY-PzF0
> > Other Barcarolle readings I like:
> >
> > AdL: https://youtu.be/XJfeIyYVqz4
> >
> > CYH: https://youtu.be/_SPtOdMggPo
> >
> > Cziffra: https://youtu.be/64GE8wBa0yE
> >
> > HJ Lim: https://youtu.be/baw7rBKKAEg
> >
> > Katsaris: https://youtu.be/AEszFQLdxGI
> >
> > Sofronitsky: https://youtu.be/G6dKMCofOrE
> >
> > Neuhaus père: https://youtu.be/oZKS1kvDQfA
> >
> > Neuhaus fils: https://youtu.be/foHPpYnda7o
>
> Here is another good one:
>
> Tony Yang: https://youtu.be/ZqdM4dzx1v8
>

And Peter Tomasz:

https://youtu.be/fkpIyu-pOyI

https://www.youtube.com/@szczepanikpianist

dk

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 by: Dan Koren - Fri, 26 May 2023 08:15 UTC

On Friday, May 26, 2023 at 12:43:27 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
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> Yes the Silverman just caught my attention this morning and I
> was curious about whether you’d heard it and had an opinion.

I can easily make up opinions when I don't have them ready! ;-)

> I haven’t had a chance to hear it again,
>
> I agree with you 100% about Pletnev, as you know.

Thank you!

> (I enjoyed sampling the DBT you posted
> by the way - I’ll listen more carefully later.)

As you know, DBT is extremely difficult to
pull off musically live on stage. I do not
recall a single live DBT that compares
well with the recorded ones. Elisso
Virsaladze is the finest U heard live:

https://youtu.be/n1jZm3pOIsg

dk

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 by: Dan Koren - Fri, 26 May 2023 08:26 UTC

On Friday, May 26, 2023 at 1:15:29 AM UTC-7, Dan Koren wrote:
> On Friday, May 26, 2023 at 12:43:27 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
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> > (I enjoyed sampling the DBT you posted
> > by the way - I’ll listen more carefully later.)
>
> As you know, DBT is extremely difficult to
> pull off musically live on stage. I do not
> recall a single live DBT that compares
> well with the recorded ones. Elisso
> Virsaladze is the finest U heard live:
>
> https://youtu.be/n1jZm3pOIsg

My current top DBT pick is
Fabienne Jacquinot:

https://youtu.be/KoPP7h6pQnE

dk

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 by: Dan Koren - Mon, 29 May 2023 08:13 UTC

On Friday, May 26, 2023 at 1:26:55 AM UTC-7, Dan Koren wrote:
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> My current top DBT pick is
> Fabienne Jacquinot:
>
> https://youtu.be/KoPP7h6pQnE

Here is a recent live DBT by
Nikita Mndoyants. Not bad,
though nowhere close to
standard set by Fabienne
Jacquinot.

dk

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