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https://www.youtube.com/@TBNIsrael

https://youtu.be/CnWvntQo0CI

Provided as a public service to you all.

dk

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Dan Koren schrieb am Freitag, 26. Mai 2023 um 05:59:14 UTC+2:
> https://www.youtube.com/@TBNIsrael
>
> https://youtu.be/CnWvntQo0CI
>
> Provided as a public service to you all.
>
> dk

As I've already told you, while I respect the bible, I don't believe in it.

The holiest place on earth is Yad Vashem. And in a sense I draw my faith out of it.

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Marc S schrieb am Samstag, 27. Mai 2023 um 08:16:08 UTC+2:
> Dan Koren schrieb am Freitag, 26. Mai 2023 um 05:59:14 UTC+2:
> > https://www.youtube.com/@TBNIsrael
> >
> > https://youtu.be/CnWvntQo0CI
> >
> > Provided as a public service to you all.
> >
> > dk
> As I've already told you, while I respect the bible, I don't believe in it.
>
> The holiest place on earth is Yad Vashem. And in a sense I draw my faith out of it.

*Not only on earth, I believe...

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Marc S schrieb am Samstag, 27. Mai 2023 um 08:18:40 UTC+2:
> Marc S schrieb am Samstag, 27. Mai 2023 um 08:16:08 UTC+2:
> > Dan Koren schrieb am Freitag, 26. Mai 2023 um 05:59:14 UTC+2:
> > > https://www.youtube.com/@TBNIsrael
> > >
> > > https://youtu.be/CnWvntQo0CI
> > >
> > > Provided as a public service to you all.
> > >
> > > dk
> > As I've already told you, while I respect the bible, I don't believe in it.
> >
> > The holiest place on earth is Yad Vashem. And in a sense I draw my faith out of it.
> *Not only on earth, I believe...

What happened must never be forgotten, not even in Olam Haba.

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 by: Dan Koren - Sat, 27 May 2023 06:42 UTC

On Friday, May 26, 2023 at 11:16:08 PM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:
> Dan Koren schrieb am Freitag, 26. Mai 2023 um 05:59:14 UTC+2:
> > https://www.youtube.com/@TBNIsrael
> >
> > https://youtu.be/CnWvntQo0CI
> >
> > Provided as a public service to you all.
>
> As I've already told you,
> while I respect the bible,
> I don't believe in it.

Doesn't quite add up.
Care to elaborate?
I ask the question....

Thx

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Dan Koren schrieb am Samstag, 27. Mai 2023 um 08:42:30 UTC+2:
> On Friday, May 26, 2023 at 11:16:08 PM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:
> > Dan Koren schrieb am Freitag, 26. Mai 2023 um 05:59:14 UTC+2:
> > > https://www.youtube.com/@TBNIsrael
> > >
> > > https://youtu.be/CnWvntQo0CI
> > >
> > > Provided as a public service to you all.
> >
> > As I've already told you,
> > while I respect the bible,
> > I don't believe in it.
> Doesn't quite add up.

The world is a little more complex than you think. Sometimes I get the feeling you always look at things in a binary way (maybe you worked a bit too long in IT); like for example:

If you respect the bible, you must believe in it; and if you don't believe in it, there is no reason to respect it. This seems to be your thought-process; basically a primitive algorithm.

This reminds me of what Adorno said about reified consciousness:

"What I mean by reified consciousness, I can illustrate—without elaborate philosophical contemplation—most simply with an American experience. Among the frequently changing colleagues which the Princeton Project provided me with, was a young lady. After a few days, she had gained confidence in me, and asked most kindly: "Dr Adorno, would you mind a personal question?". I said, "It depends on the question, but just go ahead", and she went on: "Please tell me: are you an extrovert or an introvert?". It was as if she, as a living being, already thought according to the model of multi-choice questions in questionnaires."

> Care to elaborate?

I believe I already did so (at least in short). How about you try to emphasize with me and try to understand on your own why I view it this way - wrong guesses are welcome.

> I ask the question....

You got something against Yeshua? I ask the question...

>
> Thx

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 by: Dan Koren - Sat, 27 May 2023 08:45 UTC

On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 1:13:19 AM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:
> Dan Koren schrieb am Samstag, 27. Mai 2023 um 08:42:30 UTC+2:
> > On Friday, May 26, 2023 at 11:16:08 PM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:
> > > Dan Koren schrieb am Freitag, 26. Mai 2023 um 05:59:14 UTC+2:
> > > > https://www.youtube.com/@TBNIsrael
> > > >
> > > > https://youtu.be/CnWvntQo0CI
> > > >
> > > > Provided as a public service to you all.
> > >
> > > As I've already told you,
> > > while I respect the bible,
> > > I don't believe in it.
> >
> > Doesn't quite add up.
>
> The world is a little more complex than you think.

The question was about your reasoning,
not about "the world" in general.

> Sometimes I get the feeling you always look at things
> in a binary way (maybe you worked a bit too long in IT);

Wrong again. I merely pointed out what
appears like an obvious contradiction.
This is not about my own beliefs.

> like for example:
>
> If you respect the bible, you must believe in it; and if
> you don't believe in it, there is no reason to respect it.

I did not state this. I merely asked for an explanation.

Specifically, what do you respect the Bible for? Great
writing? Superb plots? Historical value? Ability to utterly
confuse people?

As everyone knows, the Bible is not one book. It is a
collection of writings by different authors written at
different times. Do you "respect" all the books of the
Bible equally, or do you have preferences, just as you
have preferences for different Mozart performances?

BTW what does it mean to "respect" books?

> This seems to be your thought-process; basically a
> primitive algorithm.

What else can one expect from a software developer? ;-)

> This reminds me of what Adorno said about reified
> consciousness:

Are there any topics that do not remind you of Adorno?

dk

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 by: Marc S - Sat, 27 May 2023 10:56 UTC

Dan Koren schrieb am Samstag, 27. Mai 2023 um 10:45:10 UTC+2:
> On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 1:13:19 AM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:
> > Dan Koren schrieb am Samstag, 27. Mai 2023 um 08:42:30 UTC+2:
> > > On Friday, May 26, 2023 at 11:16:08 PM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:
> > > > Dan Koren schrieb am Freitag, 26. Mai 2023 um 05:59:14 UTC+2:
> > > > > https://www.youtube.com/@TBNIsrael
> > > > >
> > > > > https://youtu.be/CnWvntQo0CI
> > > > >
> > > > > Provided as a public service to you all.
> > > >
> > > > As I've already told you,
> > > > while I respect the bible,
> > > > I don't believe in it.
> > >
> > > Doesn't quite add up.
> >
> > The world is a little more complex than you think.
> The question was about your reasoning,
> not about "the world" in general.

There was no question yet and it's perfectly clear - regarding the context - how this was meant. Being nitpicky in this regard just proves that you can't reflect... staying true to your monkey-reflexes I see...

> > Sometimes I get the feeling you always look at things
> > in a binary way (maybe you worked a bit too long in IT);
> Wrong again. I merely pointed out what
> appears like an obvious contradiction.

You didn't understand a single thing again: There is no obvious contradiction; only in the mind of someone who can't reflect properly this may "appear" like an obvious contradiction.

> This is not about my own beliefs.

Exactly Dan... this world is not about you.

> > like for example:
> >
> > If you respect the bible, you must believe in it; and if
> > you don't believe in it, there is no reason to respect it.
> I did not state this. I merely asked for an explanation.

It is implied in what you said ("Doesn't quite add up"); just as it is implied in what you said about it "appearing as an obvious contradiction".

>
> Specifically, what do you respect the Bible for? Great
> writing? Superb plots? Historical value? Ability to utterly
> confuse people?

I believe you are the one who is confused... didn't even take a bible to make you as stupid as you are...

>
> As everyone knows, the Bible is not one book. It is a
> collection of writings by different authors written at
> different times. Do you "respect" all the books of the
> Bible equally, or do you have preferences, just as you
> have preferences for different Mozart performances?

Do you expect a serious answer to this apeshit?

>
> BTW what does it mean to "respect" books?

Reminds me of a saying of Heine which interestingly relates to a book I don't respect at all - the Quran; you might remember it from Yad Vashem:

"Where one burns books, one will also burn humans."

> > This seems to be your thought-process; basically a
> > primitive algorithm.
> What else can one expect from a software developer? ;-)

Unfortunately, there isn't much more to be expected from them... at least from most of them, as they have been prepared to do the most mind-numbing tasks...

As I've said before in another thread: It's not that AIs are becoming more like humans, but humans becoming more like robots...

> > This reminds me of what Adorno said about reified
> > consciousness:
> Are there any topics that do not remind you of Adorno?

Are there any topics that remind you of him?

Want me rather to quote you an idiot like Cioran? Or someone you might like, like Eugene Ionescu?

>
> dk

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Marc S schrieb am Samstag, 27. Mai 2023 um 12:56:50 UTC+2:
> Dan Koren schrieb am Samstag, 27. Mai 2023 um 10:45:10 UTC+2:
> > On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 1:13:19 AM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:
> > > Dan Koren schrieb am Samstag, 27. Mai 2023 um 08:42:30 UTC+2:
> > > > On Friday, May 26, 2023 at 11:16:08 PM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:
> > > > > Dan Koren schrieb am Freitag, 26. Mai 2023 um 05:59:14 UTC+2:
> > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/@TBNIsrael
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://youtu.be/CnWvntQo0CI
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Provided as a public service to you all.
> > > > >
> > > > > As I've already told you,
> > > > > while I respect the bible,
> > > > > I don't believe in it.
> > > >
> > > > Doesn't quite add up.
> > >
> > > The world is a little more complex than you think.
> > The question was about your reasoning,
> > not about "the world" in general.
> There was no question yet and it's perfectly clear - regarding the context - how this was meant. Being nitpicky in this regard just proves that you can't reflect... staying true to your monkey-reflexes I see...
> > > Sometimes I get the feeling you always look at things
> > > in a binary way (maybe you worked a bit too long in IT);
> > Wrong again. I merely pointed out what
> > appears like an obvious contradiction.
> You didn't understand a single thing again: There is no obvious contradiction; only in the mind of someone who can't reflect properly this may "appear" like an obvious contradiction.
> > This is not about my own beliefs.
> Exactly Dan... this world is not about you.

*this world isn't only about you.

> > > like for example:
> > >
> > > If you respect the bible, you must believe in it; and if
> > > you don't believe in it, there is no reason to respect it.
> > I did not state this. I merely asked for an explanation.
> It is implied in what you said ("Doesn't quite add up"); just as it is implied in what you said about it "appearing as an obvious contradiction".
> >
> > Specifically, what do you respect the Bible for? Great
> > writing? Superb plots? Historical value? Ability to utterly
> > confuse people?
> I believe you are the one who is confused... didn't even take a bible to make you as stupid as you are...
> >
> > As everyone knows, the Bible is not one book. It is a
> > collection of writings by different authors written at
> > different times. Do you "respect" all the books of the
> > Bible equally, or do you have preferences, just as you
> > have preferences for different Mozart performances?
> Do you expect a serious answer to this apeshit?
> >
> > BTW what does it mean to "respect" books?
> Reminds me of a saying of Heine which interestingly relates to a book I don't respect at all - the Quran; you might remember it from Yad Vashem:
>
> "Where one burns books, one will also burn humans."
> > > This seems to be your thought-process; basically a
> > > primitive algorithm.
> > What else can one expect from a software developer? ;-)
> Unfortunately, there isn't much more to be expected from them... at least from most of them, as they have been prepared to do the most mind-numbing tasks...
>
> As I've said before in another thread: It's not that AIs are becoming more like humans, but humans becoming more like robots...
> > > This reminds me of what Adorno said about reified
> > > consciousness:
> > Are there any topics that do not remind you of Adorno?
> Are there any topics that remind you of him?
>
> Want me rather to quote you an idiot like Cioran? Or someone you might like, like Eugene Ionescu?
>
> >
> > dk

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On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 3:56:50 AM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:
>
> Want me rather to quote you an idiot like Cioran?
> Or someone you might like, like Eugene Ionescu?

Yikes! What makes you think I would read either?

Cioran was eine große scheißen and Ionescu was
une toute petite merde.

dk

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Dan Koren schrieb am Sonntag, 28. Mai 2023 um 04:37:15 UTC+2:
> On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 3:56:50 AM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:
> >
> > Want me rather to quote you an idiot like Cioran?
> > Or someone you might like, like Eugene Ionescu?
> Yikes! What makes you think I would read either?

Through the second question it is implied, that I don't think you'd like Cioran.

>
> Cioran was eine große scheißen and Ionescu was
> une toute petite merde.

I agree about Cioran; and about Ionescu I don't know much, but from what I know, I'm not interested in him at all... just a guess.

Maybe Caragiale for you then?

>
> dk

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On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 10:33:37 PM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:
> Dan Koren schrieb am Sonntag, 28. Mai 2023 um 04:37:15 UTC+2:
> > On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 3:56:50 AM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:
> > >
> > > Want me rather to quote you an idiot like Cioran?
> > > Or someone you might like, like Eugene Ionescu?
> >
> > Yikes! What makes you think I would read either?
>
> Through the second question it is implied,
> that I don't think you'd like Cioran.
>
> > Cioran was eine große scheißen and
> > Ionescu was une toute petite merde.
>
> I agree about Cioran; and about Ionescu I
> don't know much, but from what I know,
> I'm not interested in him at all... just a
> guess.
>
> Maybe Caragiale for you then?

Caragiale was (and probably still
is) required reading in high school.

His output was mainly low brow
comedy with some local color
and without any intellectual
pretense.

I can reassure you and everyone
else I had no interest in anything
taught in high school. ;-)

dk

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 by: Marc S - Sun, 28 May 2023 08:28 UTC

Dan Koren schrieb am Sonntag, 28. Mai 2023 um 09:58:02 UTC+2:
> On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 10:33:37 PM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:
> > Dan Koren schrieb am Sonntag, 28. Mai 2023 um 04:37:15 UTC+2:
> > > On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 3:56:50 AM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Want me rather to quote you an idiot like Cioran?
> > > > Or someone you might like, like Eugene Ionescu?
> > >
> > > Yikes! What makes you think I would read either?
> >
> > Through the second question it is implied,
> > that I don't think you'd like Cioran.
> >
> > > Cioran was eine große scheißen and
> > > Ionescu was une toute petite merde.
> >
> > I agree about Cioran; and about Ionescu I
> > don't know much, but from what I know,
> > I'm not interested in him at all... just a
> > guess.
> >
> > Maybe Caragiale for you then?
> Caragiale was (and probably still
> is) required reading in high school.

In Romania, I guess?

>
> His output was mainly low brow
> comedy with some local color
> and without any intellectual
> pretense.

I don't know too much about him either tbh; but he certainly seems more likeable than Ionescu - not to mention Cioran...

>
> I can reassure you and everyone
> else I had no interest in anything
> taught in high school. ;-)

Okay, this is not a problem. The problem is rather that you were too interested in science (particularly physics and IT), so that you forgot about 'everything' else for it.

You have a weird infatuation and a very uncritical stance towards science; you sort of hype science, similar to how some people worship their religious ideologies - you, like most people I met, seem to have no understanding of ideologies (even scientific ones) and how they affect people.

>
> dk

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 by: Dan Koren - Sun, 28 May 2023 08:42 UTC

On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 1:28:50 AM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:
> Dan Koren schrieb am Sonntag, 28. Mai 2023 um 09:58:02 UTC+2:
> >
> > I can reassure you and everyone
> > else I had no interest in anything
> > taught in high school. ;-)
>
> Okay, this is not a problem. The problem
> is rather that you were too interested in
> science (particularly physics and IT), so
> that you forgot about 'everything' else for
> it.

Nope. I had no interest in science either.

Science however was easy and allowed
me to sail through school just by simply
taking and acing term finals.

I spent most of my time reading, listening
to music, and chasing girls.

> You have a weird infatuation and a very
> uncritical stance towards science; you
> sort of hype science, similar to how
> some people worship their religious
> ideologies -

I have no interest in science. It is a way
to make a living with almost no effort.
No more, no less, and nothing else.

> you, like most people I met, seem to
> have no understanding of ideologies
> (even scientific ones) and how they
> affect people.

ROTFL !!!

dk

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 by: Marc S - Sun, 28 May 2023 10:25 UTC

Dan Koren schrieb am Sonntag, 28. Mai 2023 um 10:42:18 UTC+2:
> On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 1:28:50 AM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:
> > Dan Koren schrieb am Sonntag, 28. Mai 2023 um 09:58:02 UTC+2:
> > >
> > > I can reassure you and everyone
> > > else I had no interest in anything
> > > taught in high school. ;-)
> >
> > Okay, this is not a problem. The problem
> > is rather that you were too interested in
> > science (particularly physics and IT), so
> > that you forgot about 'everything' else for
> > it.
> Nope. I had no interest in science either.

Well, it showed in your horrible statistical analysis - which was 3rd grade math paired with the reasoning ability of a monkey - about the mortality of covid...

>
> Science however was easy and allowed
> me to sail through school just by simply
> taking and acing term finals.

I do wonder what zoo - eh... school - you went to...

People with an affinity for science, would never say that it is easy; only people who never took it seriously would ;)

>
> I spent most of my time reading, listening

As of yet it doesn't seem to me that you have read anything worthy to read; or that you didn't understand a single thing of the stuff you read...

> to music, and chasing girls.

I understand that you had to chase girls, as the girls had no incentive to chase you.

> > You have a weird infatuation and a very
> > uncritical stance towards science; you
> > sort of hype science, similar to how
> > some people worship their religious
> > ideologies -
> I have no interest in science. It is a way

It is clear to 'everyone' on this forum that you have no interest in anything but yourself.

> to make a living with almost no effort.

Jeez... you always deceive yourself.

Dan... I know your ego is broken, but trying to fix it with lies isn't going to help. It should also be noted that 'everyone', including Herman, can see through them.
> No more, no less, and nothing else.
> > you, like most people I met, seem to
> > have no understanding of ideologies
> > (even scientific ones) and how they
> > affect people.
> ROTFL !!!

Monkey reflex as usual... no reflection.

>
> dk

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