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by: Your Name - Mon, 11 Oct 2021 23:59 UTC

On 2021-10-11 23:10:29 +0000, RichA said:
>
> https://www.imdb.com/video/vi3986080537?ref_=hm_hp_i_1&listId=ls053181649

The "two-bit Luke Skywalker" would be Rey in the supposed Star Wars
Sequel Trilogy by the talentless hack JarJar Abrams ... which in
reality was just a lazy gender-swapped remake of the originals.

The Dune novels (some of them anyway) were of course written before
Star Wars and were some influence on George Lucas, but the Hollyweird
adaptations have always been simply an attempt to jump on the Star Wars
band wagon, just like Battlestar Galactica and Buck Rogers were.

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by: RichA - Tue, 12 Oct 2021 03:59 UTC

On Monday, 11 October 2021 at 19:59:15 UTC-4, Your Name wrote:
> On 2021-10-11 23:10:29 +0000, RichA said:
> >
> > https://www.imdb.com/video/vi3986080537?ref_=hm_hp_i_1&listId=ls053181649
>
> The "two-bit Luke Skywalker" would be Rey in the supposed Star Wars
> Sequel Trilogy by the talentless hack JarJar Abrams ... which in
> reality was just a lazy gender-swapped remake of the originals.
>
> The Dune novels (some of them anyway) were of course written before
> Star Wars and were some influence on George Lucas, but the Hollyweird
> adaptations have always been simply an attempt to jump on the Star Wars
> band wagon, just like Battlestar Galactica and Buck Rogers were.

I never liked Herbert's stuff, it bored me. But the original "Dune" was at least
weird enough to come off as a scifi/fantasy, even if using Sting in the one role
was nearly as bad as Travolta in "Battlefield Earth."

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by: Your Name - Tue, 12 Oct 2021 04:12 UTC

On 2021-10-12 03:59:13 +0000, RichA said:

> On Monday, 11 October 2021 at 19:59:15 UTC-4, Your Name wrote:
>> On 2021-10-11 23:10:29 +0000, RichA said:
>>>
>>> https://www.imdb.com/video/vi3986080537?ref_=hm_hp_i_1&listId=ls053181649
>>
>> The "two-bit Luke Skywalker" would be Rey in the supposed Star Wars
>> Sequel Trilogy by the talentless hack JarJar Abrams ... which in
>> reality was just a lazy gender-swapped remake of the originals.
>>
>> The Dune novels (some of them anyway) were of course written before
>> Star Wars and were some influence on George Lucas, but the Hollyweird
>> adaptations have always been simply an attempt to jump on the Star Wars
>> band wagon, just like Battlestar Galactica and Buck Rogers were.
>
> I never liked Herbert's stuff, it bored me. But the original "Dune"
> was at least weird enough to come off as a scifi/fantasy, even if using
> Sting in the one role was nearly as bad as Travolta in "Battlefield
> Earth."

Dune in all it's guises is boring rubbish.

I chose one of the original novels as a school prizegiving award (the
options were extremely limited and it was the only sci-fi book). I gave
up attempting to read before the end of the first chapter, after pages
and pages of desciptions of sand on a sand planet. Unfortunately people
thought because it's sci-fi and I had one, they kept buying me more
books in the series as gifts - I've never bothered to even open those
books and it's not a complete set.

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by: ted@loft.tnolan.com - Tue, 12 Oct 2021 04:33 UTC

In article <sk31vp$hfk$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>On 2021-10-12 03:59:13 +0000, RichA said:
>
>> On Monday, 11 October 2021 at 19:59:15 UTC-4, Your Name wrote:
>>> On 2021-10-11 23:10:29 +0000, RichA said:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.imdb.com/video/vi3986080537?ref_=hm_hp_i_1&listId=ls053181649
>>>
>>> The "two-bit Luke Skywalker" would be Rey in the supposed Star Wars
>>> Sequel Trilogy by the talentless hack JarJar Abrams ... which in
>>> reality was just a lazy gender-swapped remake of the originals.
>>>
>>> The Dune novels (some of them anyway) were of course written before
>>> Star Wars and were some influence on George Lucas, but the Hollyweird
>>> adaptations have always been simply an attempt to jump on the Star Wars
>>> band wagon, just like Battlestar Galactica and Buck Rogers were.
>>
>> I never liked Herbert's stuff, it bored me. But the original "Dune"
>> was at least weird enough to come off as a scifi/fantasy, even if using
>> Sting in the one role was nearly as bad as Travolta in "Battlefield
>> Earth."
>
>Dune in all it's guises is boring rubbish.
>
>I chose one of the original novels as a school prizegiving award (the
>options were extremely limited and it was the only sci-fi book). I gave
>up attempting to read before the end of the first chapter, after pages
>and pages of desciptions of sand on a sand planet. Unfortunately people
>thought because it's sci-fi and I had one, they kept buying me more
>books in the series as gifts - I've never bothered to even open those
>books and it's not a complete set.
>
>

The first one was great, the second one was awful. After that it got
better for a while, but I was still behind when Herbert died, so I never
went on from 4 or maybe 5 because I knew the series wouldn't have a proper
ending.

There was a good series of posts on Usenet a while back pointing out
that a lot of what Herbert was doing was subverting the standard hero
story, which I had never really considered.
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by: alvey - Tue, 12 Oct 2021 08:07 UTC

On Mon, 11 Oct 2021 16:10:29 -0700 (PDT), RichA wrote:

> https://www.imdb.com/video/vi3986080537?ref_=hm_hp_i_1&listId=ls053181649

Personally, I'd rather wait until seeing something until forming any
judgement.

Although I can declare that I'll miss the baroque furnishings & fittings
from the David Lynch version.

alvey

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by: RichA - Wed, 13 Oct 2021 01:35 UTC

On Tuesday, 12 October 2021 at 04:07:55 UTC-4, alvey wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Oct 2021 16:10:29 -0700 (PDT), RichA wrote:
>
> > https://www.imdb.com/video/vi3986080537?ref_=hm_hp_i_1&listId=ls053181649
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> Personally, I'd rather wait until seeing something until forming any
> judgement.
>
> Although I can declare that I'll miss the baroque furnishings & fittings
> from the David Lynch version.
>
Maybe there is some kind of profound metaphor in it, but riding giant worms like horses...

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by: alvey - Wed, 13 Oct 2021 06:35 UTC

On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 18:35:28 -0700 (PDT), RichA wrote:

> On Tuesday, 12 October 2021 at 04:07:55 UTC-4, alvey wrote:
>> On Mon, 11 Oct 2021 16:10:29 -0700 (PDT), RichA wrote:
>>
>>> https://www.imdb.com/video/vi3986080537?ref_=hm_hp_i_1&listId=ls053181649
>>
>> Personally, I'd rather wait until seeing something until forming any
>> judgement.
>>
>> Although I can declare that I'll miss the baroque furnishings & fittings
>> from the David Lynch version.
>>
>
> Maybe there is some kind of profound metaphor in it, but riding giant worms like horses...

Not quite, but that was a weak spot in the book. Evolution would have had
the worm joints overlapping the other way to what Herbert did. A very minor
point though in one of the great Ripping Yarns.

alvey

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by: Otto J. Makela - Wed, 13 Oct 2021 16:04 UTC

RichA <rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:

> https://www.imdb.com/video/vi3986080537?ref_=hm_hp_i_1&listId=ls053181649

You have things a bit backwards: Tatooine is a bit of a two-bit Arrakis,
considering that Frank Herbert's book came out in 1965, twelve years
before the first Star Wars film.

I actually just yesterday saw Villeneuve's Dune (part one) film, and it
was pretty much as good an adaptation of around half of this thick book
as can be expected. Hopefully it'll achieve similar cult following as
Jackson's LoTR movies — I'm looking forward to seeing a continuation.

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by: Your Name - Wed, 13 Oct 2021 21:17 UTC

On 2021-10-13 16:04:46 +0000, Otto J. Makela said:
> RichA <rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> https://www.imdb.com/video/vi3986080537?ref_=hm_hp_i_1&listId=ls053181649
>
> You have things a bit backwards: Tatooine is a bit of a two-bit Arrakis,
> considering that Frank Herbert's book came out in 1965, twelve years
> before the first Star Wars film.
>
> I actually just yesterday saw Villeneuve's Dune (part one) film, and it
> was pretty much as good an adaptation of around half of this thick book
> as can be expected. Hopefully it'll achieve similar cult following as
> Jackson's LoTR movies - I'm looking forward to seeing a continuation.

Not a snowball's chance on the Sun that Dune will ever get close to
being as popular as Lord of the Rings, Star Wars, etc.

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by: trotsky - Sun, 17 Oct 2021 13:16 UTC

On 10/11/21 6:10 PM, RichA wrote:
> https://www.imdb.com/video/vi3986080537?ref_=hm_hp_i_1&listId=ls053181649
>

Do you have anything to say that isn't a pile of crap? Dune came first,
so that the flying fuck are you talking about?

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by: Otto J. Makela - Sun, 17 Oct 2021 13:18 UTC

Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

> Not a snowball's chance on the Sun that Dune will ever get close to
> being as popular as Lord of the Rings, Star Wars, etc.

Lynch's Dune already has a certain cult reputation in spite of its flaws.
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by: Your Name - Sun, 17 Oct 2021 21:00 UTC

On 2021-10-17 13:18:23 +0000, Otto J. Makela said:
> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>>
>> Not a snowball's chance on the Sun that Dune will ever get close to
>> being as popular as Lord of the Rings, Star Wars, etc.
>
> Lynch's Dune already has a certain cult reputation in spite of its flaws.

Pretty much anythings has a "cult following" if you define it as "a few
devoted nutters", but the original post said "Lord of the Rings" and
there's simply no way "Dune" garbage will never reach those heights of
popularity ... it won't even reach the levels of shows like "Firefly"
and "Babylon 5".

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by: trotsky - Tue, 19 Oct 2021 21:35 UTC

On 10/13/2021 4:17 PM, Your Name wrote:
> On 2021-10-13 16:04:46 +0000, Otto J. Makela said:
>> RichA <rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> https://www.imdb.com/video/vi3986080537?ref_=hm_hp_i_1&listId=ls053181649
>>>
>>
>> You have things a bit backwards: Tatooine is a bit of a two-bit Arrakis,
>> considering that Frank Herbert's book came out in 1965, twelve years
>> before the first Star Wars film.
>>
>> I actually just yesterday saw Villeneuve's Dune (part one) film, and it
>> was pretty much as good an adaptation of around half of this thick book
>> as can be expected. Hopefully it'll achieve similar cult following as
>> Jackson's LoTR movies - I'm looking forward to seeing a continuation.
>
> Not a snowball's chance on the Sun that Dune will ever get close to
> being as popular as Lord of the Rings, Star Wars, etc.

Ah, the McDonald's argument, that never gets old.

I'll see your weak popularity argument and raise you one Denis
Villeneuve is far and away the best director in any movies mentioned.

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by: RichA - Wed, 20 Oct 2021 07:45 UTC

On Monday, 11 October 2021 at 19:10:31 UTC-4, RichA wrote:
> https://www.imdb.com/video/vi3986080537?ref_=hm_hp_i_1&listId=ls053181649

They're A-RABS! The planet is like Afghanistan. Imagine trying to EAT there. everything would be covered with sand. A planet of dope-addicts. The effects are good, the devices clever, the costumes are a hodgepodge of WW1 uniforms, Muslim dress and Star Warish battle dress. Tiny, dragonfly like drone weapons.

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On Monday, 11 October 2021 at 19:10:31 UTC-4, RichA wrote:
> https://www.imdb.com/video/vi3986080537?ref_=hm_hp_i_1&listId=ls053181649

Good movie, not boring, BETTER than the 1980's version but it ends abruptly Probably going to make a sequel.

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by: trotsky - Thu, 21 Oct 2021 17:18 UTC

On 10/20/21 3:31 PM, RichA wrote:
> On Monday, 11 October 2021 at 19:10:31 UTC-4, RichA wrote:
>> https://www.imdb.com/video/vi3986080537?ref_=hm_hp_i_1&listId=ls053181649
>
> Good movie, not boring, BETTER than the 1980's version but it ends abruptly Probably going to make a sequel.

Yeah, don't do any research before you start spouting shit.

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by: trotsky - Sat, 23 Oct 2021 15:51 UTC

On 10/20/21 2:45 AM, RichA wrote:
> On Monday, 11 October 2021 at 19:10:31 UTC-4, RichA wrote:
>> https://www.imdb.com/video/vi3986080537?ref_=hm_hp_i_1&listId=ls053181649
>
> They're A-RABS!

Did you read the book or are you being an ignorant sack of shit as usual?

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by: trotsky - Sat, 23 Oct 2021 15:53 UTC

On 10/20/21 3:31 PM, RichA wrote:
> On Monday, 11 October 2021 at 19:10:31 UTC-4, RichA wrote:
>> https://www.imdb.com/video/vi3986080537?ref_=hm_hp_i_1&listId=ls053181649
>
> Good movie, not boring, BETTER than the 1980's version but it ends abruptly Probably going to make a sequel.

Fuckhead, it was a 500 page novel and the movie says "Part One" at the
beginning. Are you getting any treatment for your cognitive decline?

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