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 by: Mandryka - Sun, 28 May 2023 08:12 UTC

A sense of restlessness, impetuousness which I appreciate in this music

https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kPhFuYArytlVWzWup2Jg_RkuQQ6wx7yZE&playnext=1&index=1

I first came across him in Mendelssohn, and I went back to his Songs without Words just yesterday after it came up here. I like it more than ever - in fact I like it more than any other I’ve heard, because of the lyricism and lightness of his interpretations.

He finds a different voice for the Schumann, which I’ve only discovered myself, but it’s certainly made me prick up my ears. Listen, for example, to what he makes of the posthumous Var III.

His only other recording as far as I know is some some Schubert songs with a singer called Sharon Rostorf - Zamir. I’ve started to listen to it. Whatever you make of her voice, you will appreciate Gortler’s piano playing for sure. He was made for Schubert.

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 by: HT - Sun, 28 May 2023 08:45 UTC

Op zondag 28 mei 2023 om 10:12:41 UTC+2 schreef Mandryka:
> A sense of restlessness, impetuousness which I appreciate in this music
>
> https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kPhFuYArytlVWzWup2Jg_RkuQQ6wx7yZE&playnext=1&index=1
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> I first came across him in Mendelssohn, and I went back to his Songs without Words just yesterday after it came up here. I like it more than ever - in fact I like it more than any other I’ve heard, because of the lyricism and lightness of his interpretations.

Isn't the lightness above all in his tone? I had the same problem with his Mendelssohn. It isn't just a matter of engineering.

Henk

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 by: Mandryka - Sun, 28 May 2023 09:44 UTC

On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 9:45:16 AM UTC+1, HT wrote:
> Op zondag 28 mei 2023 om 10:12:41 UTC+2 schreef Mandryka:
> > A sense of restlessness, impetuousness which I appreciate in this music
> >
> > https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kPhFuYArytlVWzWup2Jg_RkuQQ6wx7yZE&playnext=1&index=1
> >
> > I first came across him in Mendelssohn, and I went back to his Songs without Words just yesterday after it came up here. I like it more than ever - in fact I like it more than any other I’ve heard, because of the lyricism and lightness of his interpretations.
> Isn't the lightness above all in his tone? I had the same problem with his Mendelssohn. It isn't just a matter of engineering.
>
> Henk

I think the lightness is in his touch above all, and also in his balance and phasing.

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 by: Dan Koren - Sun, 28 May 2023 22:52 UTC

On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 1:12:41 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> A sense of restlessness, impetuousness which I appreciate in this music
>
> https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kPhFuYArytlVWzWup2Jg_RkuQQ6wx7yZE
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Mechanical, metronomic, predictable.
Very ugly sound.

dk

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 by: Mandryka - Mon, 29 May 2023 04:07 UTC

On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 11:52:58 PM UTC+1, Dan Koren wrote:
> On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 1:12:41 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> > A sense of restlessness, impetuousness which I appreciate in this music
> >
> > https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kPhFuYArytlVWzWup2Jg_RkuQQ6wx7yZE
> >
> Mechanical, metronomic, predictable.
> Very ugly sound.
>
> dk

If you want unpredictable try Kyoko Tabe.

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 by: Mandryka - Mon, 29 May 2023 04:13 UTC

On Monday, May 29, 2023 at 5:07:43 AM UTC+1, Mandryka wrote:
> On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 11:52:58 PM UTC+1, Dan Koren wrote:
> > On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 1:12:41 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> > > A sense of restlessness, impetuousness which I appreciate in this music
> > >
> > > https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kPhFuYArytlVWzWup2Jg_RkuQQ6wx7yZE
> > >
> > Mechanical, metronomic, predictable.
> > Very ugly sound.
> >
> > dk
> If you want unpredictable try Kyoko Tabe.

I meant for the Mendelssohn - mixing up threads.

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 by: Dan Koren - Mon, 29 May 2023 04:19 UTC

On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 9:07:43 PM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 11:52:58 PM UTC+1, Dan Koren wrote:
> > On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 1:12:41 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> > > A sense of restlessness, impetuousness which I appreciate in this music
> > >
> > > https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kPhFuYArytlVWzWup2Jg_RkuQQ6wx7yZE
> > >
> > Mechanical, metronomic, predictable.
> > Very ugly sound.
>
> If you want unpredictable try Kyoko Tabe.

The last thing I want in art is "predictable".

dk

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 by: Dan Koren - Mon, 29 May 2023 04:19 UTC

On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 9:13:39 PM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> On Monday, May 29, 2023 at 5:07:43 AM UTC+1, Mandryka wrote:
> > On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 11:52:58 PM UTC+1, Dan Koren wrote:
> > > On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 1:12:41 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> > > > A sense of restlessness, impetuousness which I appreciate in this music
> > > >
> > > > https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kPhFuYArytlVWzWup2Jg_RkuQQ6wx7yZE
> > > >
> > > Mechanical, metronomic, predictable.
> > > Very ugly sound.
> >
> > If you want unpredictable try Kyoko Tabe.
>
> I meant for the Mendelssohn - mixing up threads.

The last thing I want in art is "predictable".

dk

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 by: Mandryka - Mon, 29 May 2023 08:48 UTC

On Monday, May 29, 2023 at 5:19:53 AM UTC+1, Dan Koren wrote:
> On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 9:13:39 PM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> > On Monday, May 29, 2023 at 5:07:43 AM UTC+1, Mandryka wrote:
> > > On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 11:52:58 PM UTC+1, Dan Koren wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 1:12:41 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> > > > > A sense of restlessness, impetuousness which I appreciate in this music
> > > > >
> > > > > https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kPhFuYArytlVWzWup2Jg_RkuQQ6wx7yZE
> > > > >
> > > > Mechanical, metronomic, predictable.
> > > > Very ugly sound.
> > >
> > > If you want unpredictable try Kyoko Tabe.
> >
> > I meant for the Mendelssohn - mixing up threads.
> The last thing I want in art is "predictable".
>
> dk

You say that, but I think there’s a strong element of predictability in all tonal music, with all those resolving cadences and memorable melodies.

I want you to listen to Rübsam’s Bach on lute harpsichord - the WTC 2 for example. He was trying to find ways of avoiding predictability in the music, more interesting ways than just using a bit of rubato or a sudden change of tempo. I think he succeeded.

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 by: Dan Koren - Mon, 29 May 2023 08:55 UTC

On Monday, May 29, 2023 at 1:48:25 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> On Monday, May 29, 2023 at 5:19:53 AM UTC+1, Dan Koren wrote:
> > On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 9:13:39 PM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> > > On Monday, May 29, 2023 at 5:07:43 AM UTC+1, Mandryka wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 11:52:58 PM UTC+1, Dan Koren wrote:
> > > > > On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 1:12:41 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> > > > > > A sense of restlessness, impetuousness which I appreciate in this music
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kPhFuYArytlVWzWup2Jg_RkuQQ6wx7yZE
> > > > > >
> > > > > Mechanical, metronomic, predictable.
> > > > > Very ugly sound.
> > > >
> > > > If you want unpredictable try Kyoko Tabe.
> > >
> > > I meant for the Mendelssohn - mixing up threads.
> >
> > The last thing I want in art is "predictable".
>
> You say that, but I think there’s a strong
> element of predictability in all tonal music,
> with all those resolving cadences and memorable
> melodies.

We are obviously talking past each other.

You keep referring to the "music", while I
only care about actual performances.
These are not the same things. The
"music" might look predictable and
regular on paper, or while one might
think one hears it in his/her head. I
do not care at all about this kind of
predictability. All I care about is the
performers convincing me that they
LIVE the parts they perform.

> I want you to listen to Rübsam’s Bach on
> lute harpsichord - the WTC 2 for example.
> He was trying to find ways of avoiding
> predictability in the music, more interesting
> ways than just using a bit of rubato or a
> sudden change of tempo. I think he succeeded.

I am quite familiar with Rübsam’s work,
and I do not find it interesting in the
slightest. Remember I am a black
piano chauvinist! ;-)

dk

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 by: Mandryka - Mon, 29 May 2023 09:17 UTC

On Monday, May 29, 2023 at 9:55:11 AM UTC+1, Dan Koren wrote:
> On Monday, May 29, 2023 at 1:48:25 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> > On Monday, May 29, 2023 at 5:19:53 AM UTC+1, Dan Koren wrote:
> > > On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 9:13:39 PM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> > > > On Monday, May 29, 2023 at 5:07:43 AM UTC+1, Mandryka wrote:
> > > > > On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 11:52:58 PM UTC+1, Dan Koren wrote:
> > > > > > On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 1:12:41 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> > > > > > > A sense of restlessness, impetuousness which I appreciate in this music
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kPhFuYArytlVWzWup2Jg_RkuQQ6wx7yZE
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > Mechanical, metronomic, predictable.
> > > > > > Very ugly sound.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you want unpredictable try Kyoko Tabe.
> > > >
> > > > I meant for the Mendelssohn - mixing up threads.
> > >
> > > The last thing I want in art is "predictable".
> >
> > You say that, but I think there’s a strong
> > element of predictability in all tonal music,
> > with all those resolving cadences and memorable
> > melodies.
> We are obviously talking past each other.
>
> You keep referring to the "music", while I
> only care about actual performances.
> These are not the same things. The
> "music" might look predictable and
> regular on paper, or while one might
> think one hears it in his/her head. I
> do not care at all about this kind of
> predictability. All I care about is the
> performers convincing me that they
> LIVE the parts they perform.
> > I want you to listen to Rübsam’s Bach on
> > lute harpsichord - the WTC 2 for example.
> > He was trying to find ways of avoiding
> > predictability in the music, more interesting
> > ways than just using a bit of rubato or a
> > sudden change of tempo. I think he succeeded.
> I am quite familiar with Rübsam’s work,
> and I do not find it interesting in the
> slightest. Remember I am a black
> piano chauvinist! ;-)
>
> dk

Well, he recorded some music on piano too -- French suites, for example.

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 by: Dan Koren - Mon, 29 May 2023 12:10 UTC

On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 1:12:41 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
>
> A sense of restlessness, impetuousness
> which I appreciate in this music
>
> https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kPhFuYArytlVWzWup2Jg_RkuQQ6wx7yZE
>
> I first came across him in Mendelssohn,
> and I went back to his Songs without Words
> just yesterday after it came up here. I like it
> more than ever - in fact I like it more than any
> other I’ve heard, because of the lyricism and
> lightness of his interpretations.
>
> He finds a different voice for the Schumann,
> which I’ve only discovered myself, but it’s
> certainly made me prick up my ears. Listen,
> for example, to what he makes of the
> posthumous Var III.

Pletnev: https://youtu.be/n0LXztyAQeI

Gortler sounds pedestrian by comparison.

You need to shed your habit of listening to
3rd tier (or worse) pianists.

dk

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 by: Mandryka - Mon, 29 May 2023 17:35 UTC

On Monday, May 29, 2023 at 1:10:30 PM UTC+1, Dan Koren wrote:
> On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 1:12:41 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> >
> > A sense of restlessness, impetuousness
> > which I appreciate in this music
> >
> > https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kPhFuYArytlVWzWup2Jg_RkuQQ6wx7yZE
> >
> > I first came across him in Mendelssohn,
> > and I went back to his Songs without Words
> > just yesterday after it came up here. I like it
> > more than ever - in fact I like it more than any
> > other I’ve heard, because of the lyricism and
> > lightness of his interpretations.
> >
> > He finds a different voice for the Schumann,
> > which I’ve only discovered myself, but it’s
> > certainly made me prick up my ears. Listen,
> > for example, to what he makes of the
> > posthumous Var III.
> Pletnev: https://youtu.be/n0LXztyAQeI
>
> Gortler sounds pedestrian by comparison.
>
> You need to shed your habit of listening to
> 3rd tier (or worse) pianists.
>
> dk

He's giving piano recitals in Edinburgh and Paris this year, Chopin and Mozart. I may go.

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 by: AB - Mon, 29 May 2023 18:19 UTC

On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 6:52:58 PM UTC-4, Dan Koren wrote:
> On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 1:12:41 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> > A sense of restlessness, impetuousness which I appreciate in this music
> >
> > https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kPhFuYArytlVWzWup2Jg_RkuQQ6wx7yZE
> >
> Mechanical, metronomic, predictable.
> Very ugly sound.
>
> dk

what the f--k are you talking about???? ugly sound???absolutely gorgeous piano though the top treble was not always perfectly tuned .....and what beautiful playing!! metronomic?? your comments are 'metronomic! there is a better word, moro..................

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I listened to Burkard Schliessman’s Symphonic Etudes last night - magnificent!

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 by: Dan Koren - Tue, 30 May 2023 08:18 UTC

On Monday, May 29, 2023 at 11:19:57 AM UTC-7, AB wrote:
> On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 6:52:58 PM UTC-4, Dan Koren wrote:
> > On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 1:12:41 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> > > A sense of restlessness, impetuousness which I appreciate in this music
> > >
> > > https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kPhFuYArytlVWzWup2Jg_RkuQQ6wx7yZE
> > >
> > Mechanical, metronomic, predictable.
> > Very ugly sound.
>
> what the f--k are you talking about????
> ugly sound???absolutely gorgeous piano
> though the top treble was not always perfectly
> tuned .....and what beautiful playing!! metronomic??
> your comments are 'metronomic! there is a better
> word, moro..................

I am referring to the PIANIST's sound, not to
the INSTRUMENT's sound. They are not the
same thing. One would not expect a hot air
blower to understand the distinction.

dk

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 by: Dan Koren - Tue, 30 May 2023 08:19 UTC

On Monday, May 29, 2023 at 10:35:39 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> On Monday, May 29, 2023 at 1:10:30 PM UTC+1, Dan Koren wrote:
> > On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 1:12:41 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> > >
> > > A sense of restlessness, impetuousness
> > > which I appreciate in this music
> > >
> > > https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kPhFuYArytlVWzWup2Jg_RkuQQ6wx7yZE
> > >
> > > I first came across him in Mendelssohn,
> > > and I went back to his Songs without Words
> > > just yesterday after it came up here. I like it
> > > more than ever - in fact I like it more than any
> > > other I’ve heard, because of the lyricism and
> > > lightness of his interpretations.
> > >
> > > He finds a different voice for the Schumann,
> > > which I’ve only discovered myself, but it’s
> > > certainly made me prick up my ears. Listen,
> > > for example, to what he makes of the
> > > posthumous Var III.
>
> > Pletnev: https://youtu.be/n0LXztyAQeI
> >
> > Gortler sounds pedestrian by comparison.
> >
> > You need to shed your habit of listening to
> > 3rd tier (or worse) pianists.
>
> He's giving piano recitals in Edinburgh and
> Paris this year, Chopin and Mozart. I may go.

Don't forget your passport! ;-)

dk

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 by: Dan Koren - Tue, 30 May 2023 08:25 UTC

On Monday, May 29, 2023 at 5:10:30 AM UTC-7, Dan Koren wrote:
> On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 1:12:41 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> >
> > A sense of restlessness, impetuousness
> > which I appreciate in this music
> >
> > https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kPhFuYArytlVWzWup2Jg_RkuQQ6wx7yZE
> >
> > I first came across him in Mendelssohn,
> > and I went back to his Songs without Words
> > just yesterday after it came up here. I like it
> > more than ever - in fact I like it more than any
> > other I’ve heard, because of the lyricism and
> > lightness of his interpretations.
> >
> > He finds a different voice for the Schumann,
> > which I’ve only discovered myself, but it’s
> > certainly made me prick up my ears. Listen,
> > for example, to what he makes of the
> > posthumous Var III.
>
> Pletnev: https://youtu.be/n0LXztyAQeI
>

Matsuev: https://youtu.be/mFqey29clEc

dk

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 by: AB - Wed, 31 May 2023 17:36 UTC

On Tuesday, May 30, 2023 at 4:18:57 AM UTC-4, Dan Koren wrote:
> On Monday, May 29, 2023 at 11:19:57 AM UTC-7, AB wrote:
> > On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 6:52:58 PM UTC-4, Dan Koren wrote:
> > > On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 1:12:41 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> > > > A sense of restlessness, impetuousness which I appreciate in this music
> > > >
> > > > https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kPhFuYArytlVWzWup2Jg_RkuQQ6wx7yZE
> > > >
> > > Mechanical, metronomic, predictable.
> > > Very ugly sound.
> >
> > what the f--k are you talking about????
> > ugly sound???absolutely gorgeous piano
> > though the top treble was not always perfectly
> > tuned .....and what beautiful playing!! metronomic??
> > your comments are 'metronomic! there is a better
> > word, moro..................
> I am referring to the PIANIST's sound, not to
> the INSTRUMENT's sound. They are not the
> same thing. One would not expect a hot air
> blower to understand the distinction.
>
> dk

pure bull shit above, shame on you
me 'hot air blower'? how irnic

AB

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 by: Dan Koren - Wed, 31 May 2023 17:39 UTC

On Wednesday, May 31, 2023 at 10:36:59 AM UTC-7, AB wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 30, 2023 at 4:18:57 AM UTC-4, Dan Koren wrote:
> > On Monday, May 29, 2023 at 11:19:57 AM UTC-7, AB wrote:
> > > On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 6:52:58 PM UTC-4, Dan Koren wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 1:12:41 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> > > > > A sense of restlessness, impetuousness which I appreciate in this music
> > > > >
> > > > > https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kPhFuYArytlVWzWup2Jg_RkuQQ6wx7yZE
> > > > >
> > > > Mechanical, metronomic, predictable.
> > > > Very ugly sound.
> > >
> > > what the f--k are you talking about????
> > > ugly sound???absolutely gorgeous piano
> > > though the top treble was not always perfectly
> > > tuned .....and what beautiful playing!! metronomic??
> > > your comments are 'metronomic! there is a better
> > > word, moro..................
> >
> > I am referring to the PIANIST's sound, not to
> > the INSTRUMENT's sound. They are not the
> > same thing. One would not expect a hot air
> > blower to understand the distinction.
>
> pure bull shit above, shame on you
> me 'hot air blower'? how irnic

Amended: tepid air blower.

dk

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Subject: Re:_Daniel_Gortler’s_Symphonic_Etudes
From: dan.ko...@gmail.com (Dan Koren)
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 by: Dan Koren - Wed, 31 May 2023 17:42 UTC

On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 1:12:41 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
>
> A sense of restlessness, impetuousness
> which I appreciate in this music
>
> https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kPhFuYArytlVWzWup2Jg_RkuQQ6wx7yZE
>

You need to recalibrate your notions of
"restlessness" and "impetuousness"

https://youtu.be/mFqey29clEc

Gortler is a kolter tuchas by comparison.
Henk can translate this for you.

dk

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