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Just heard the newly remastered Paray with Dupre and it is absolutely MAGNIFICENT. And man you really hear that organ! That raises a question - I have never heard it live. How do they handle the organ sound at the concert hall - a regular organ just can't hold its own against a large orchestra. Do they amplify the sound of the organ so it better balances against the orchestra??? Randy

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On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 4:12:11 PM UTC-5, randy wolfgang wrote:
> Just heard the newly remastered Paray with Dupre and it is absolutely MAGNIFICENT. And man you really hear that organ! That raises a question - I have never heard it live. How do they handle the organ sound at the concert hall - a regular organ just can't hold its own against a large orchestra. Do they amplify the sound of the organ so it better balances against the orchestra??? Randy

I've heard it live and it is quite an experience. Of course the organ is amplified. The lowest note - C at 16 Hz IIRC - is just stunning. Of course we probably just hear the octave up, but the sound just hovers everywhere, no seat is exempt. You could almost reach up and touch it. Part of this is that it is set up musically. It seems impossible for a home audio system to come anywhere close. This was in Columbia Missouri with the Missouri Symphony in an old movie house with restored hall and organ. I haven't heard any thing like it in other venues here in the US and abroad.

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On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 7:34:13 PM UTC-4, MickeyBoy wrote:
> On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 4:12:11 PM UTC-5, randy wolfgang wrote:
> > Just heard the newly remastered Paray with Dupre and it is absolutely MAGNIFICENT. And man you really hear that organ! That raises a question - I have never heard it live. How do they handle the organ sound at the concert hall - a regular organ just can't hold its own against a large orchestra. Do they amplify the sound of the organ so it better balances against the orchestra??? Randy
> I've heard it live and it is quite an experience. Of course the organ is amplified. The lowest note - C at 16 Hz IIRC - is just stunning. Of course we probably just hear the octave up, but the sound just hovers everywhere, no seat is exempt. You could almost reach up and touch it. Part of this is that it is set up musically. It seems impossible for a home audio system to come anywhere close. This was in Columbia Missouri with the Missouri Symphony in an old movie house with restored hall and organ. I haven't heard any thing like it in other venues here in the US and abroad.
Wow so the organ was the type that was part of theater and used for silent film!!! That must have been something Randy

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On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 2:12:11 PM UTC-7, randy wolfgang wrote:
> Just heard the newly remastered Paray with Dupre and it is absolutely MAGNIFICENT. And man you really hear that organ! That raises a question - I have never heard it live. How do they handle the organ sound at the concert hall - a regular organ just can't hold its own against a large orchestra. Do they amplify the sound of the organ so it better balances against the orchestra??? Randy

http://www.classicalnotes.net/classics4/saintsaens.html

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Last live performance I attended was quite some time ago, Munch with the Boston Symphony. The Symphony Hall organ was NOT amplified and held its own, shook the place.

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On Saturday, July 16, 2022 at 5:30:56 AM UTC-7, sci.space wrote:
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> Last live performance I attended was quite
> some time ago, Munch with the Boston
> Symphony. The Symphony Hall organ was
> NOT amplified and held its own, shook the
> place.

This must have been quite some time ago!

dk

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held its own, shook the
> > place.
> This must have been quite some time ago!
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> dk
Almost 60 years ago.

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On Sunday, July 17, 2022 at 5:45:18 AM UTC-7, sci.space wrote:
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> > > held its own, shook the place.
> >
> > This must have been quite some time ago!
>
> Almost 60 years ago.

Is it stlll shaking? Or does the BSO now
rely on the subway for sound effects?

dk

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On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 2:12:11 PM UTC-7, randy wolfgang wrote:
> Just heard the newly remastered Paray with Dupre and it is absolutely MAGNIFICENT. And man you really hear that organ! That raises a question - I have never heard it live. How do they handle the organ sound at the concert hall - a regular organ just can't hold its own against a large orchestra. Do they amplify the sound of the organ so it better balances against the orchestra??? Randy

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"RCA Living Stereo - Charles Munch Saint-Saens Symphony No 3 Organ -"

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 by: Ed Presson - Wed, 14 Jun 2023 17:27 UTC

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>On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 2:12:11 PM UTC-7, randy wolfgang wrote:
> Just heard the newly remastered Paray with Dupre and it is absolutely
> MAGNIFICENT. And man you really hear that organ! That raises a question -
> I have never heard it live. How do they handle the organ >sound at the
> concert hall - a regular organ just can't hold its own against a large
> orchestra. Do they amplify the sound of the organ so it better balances
> against the orchestra??? Randy

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>"RCA Living Stereo - Charles Munch Saint-Saens Symphony No 3 Organ -"

With all due respect, I have heard this symphony live with a real pipe organ
in the Seattle Symphony's main concert hall. The organ can, when desired,
more than hold its own against the full
symphony orchestra. It can also hold forth magnificently in Mahler's Second
Symphony. No amplification required in either case. What a sonic
experience in both cases!

Ed Presson

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 by: Dan Koren - Wed, 14 Jun 2023 20:14 UTC

On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 2:12:11 PM UTC-7, randy wolfgang wrote:
>
> Just heard the newly remastered Paray with Dupre and it is
> absolutely MAGNIFICENT. And man you really hear that organ!
> That raises a question - I have never heard it live. How do they
> handle the organ sound at the concert hall - a regular organ
> just can't hold its own against a large orchestra. Do they
> amplify the sound of the organ so it better balances
> against the orchestra??? Randy

ROTFL !!!

Organs are uniquely individual instruments and it is difficult
to generalize. However many (most?) large organs in large
concert halls can EASILY DROWN orchestras completely
at full blast. Human lungs and muscle cannot compete
with electrical power. Not even close.

dk

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