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 by: Dan Koren - Tue, 13 Jun 2023 00:27 UTC

On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 5:21:38 PM UTC-7, Dan Koren wrote:
> On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 5:01:29 PM UTC-7, mswd...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 5:07:08 PM UTC-5, Dan Koren wrote:
> > > On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 4:53:54 AM UTC-7, Andy Evans wrote:
> > > > On Monday, 12 June 2023 at 02:55:47 UTC+1, mswd...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The audio on Youtube i adequate for a lot of purposes.
> > > Yes, but you are painting with too broad a brush.
> > > One should not generalize to "adequate". There
> > > is plenty of hgh quality 24/192 content on YT
> > > if one knows how to find it.
> > >
> > > > You aren't going to miss the nuance of a performance
> > > > because of sub-optimal audio quality, even if what is
> > > > there is measurably inferior to many other options out
> > > > there. I listen a lot to YT and have no complaints. If I
> > > > want the last bit of quality I might buy the CD or
> > > > download, but that rarely happens.
> > >
> > > What makes you think "the last bit of quality" is not
> > > available on YT? Again, there is plenty of 24/192
> > > material. It won't play through one's browser but
> > > it can be downloaded by offline downloaders
> > > such as YouTube-DL or 4kdownloader.
> >
> > Happy to be corrected. I just know that I don't place
> > any particular value on value on 24/192- certainly not
> > enough to pay for it. Give me enough time and money
> > and I might feel differently- but that is a hypotnetical I
> > may never reach.
>
> My point was simply that there is plenty of high (by the
> textbook) audio quality content available on YouTube.
>
> Whether it makes sense for one to listen to it, or pay to
> do so, is an entirely personal choice. Incidentally, a lot
> of it is actually "free" on YouTube.
>
> Here is an example: https://youtu.be/zBFSI-x2ETY
>
> Is the recording quality good enough for your ears?

Here is another one: https://youtu.be/SvuitFzDxDg

dk

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 by: Owen Hartnett - Tue, 13 Jun 2023 01:56 UTC

On 2023-06-12 22:07:05 +0000, Dan Koren said:
>>
>
> What makes you think "the last bit of quality" is notavailable on YT?
> Again, there is plenty of 24/192material. It won't play through one's
> browser butit can be downloaded by offline downloaderssuch as
> YouTube-DL or 4kdownloader.
>

If you have a Mac, there's an app called PullTube, which enables you to
just copy and paste the YouTube url and download the video content,
without commercials. It also support Vimeo, Facebook, Instagram,
Dailymotion, Soundcloud, Mixcloud, Bandcamp, Youku and others. You can
also trim or split videos by timecodes.

http://mymixapps.com

It's cheap, $15 including all future updates, and can usually download
from any video playing website. Well worth it. There's also a free
trial to see if it works for you.

-Owen

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 by: Dan Koren - Tue, 13 Jun 2023 02:23 UTC

On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 6:56:28 PM UTC-7, Owen Hartnett wrote:
> On 2023-06-12 22:07:05 +0000, Dan Koren said:
> >
> > What makes you think "the last bit of quality" is notavailable on YT?
> > Again, there is plenty of 24/192material. It won't play through one's
> > browser butit can be downloaded by offline downloaderssuch as
> > YouTube-DL or 4kdownloader.
>
> If you have a Mac, there's an app called PullTube, which enables
> you to just copy and paste the YouTube url and download the video
> content, without commercials. It also support Vimeo, Facebook,
> Instagram, Dailymotion, Soundcloud, Mixcloud, Bandcamp, Youku
> and others. You can also trim or split videos by timecodes.
>
> http://mymixapps.com
>
> It's cheap, $15 including all future updates, and can usually
> download from any video playing website. Well worth it.
> There's also a free trial to see if it works for you.

Is it also available for Windows or Linux?
Some folks don't use Macs. ;-)

dk

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 by: mswd...@gmail.com - Tue, 13 Jun 2023 13:04 UTC

On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 7:21:38 PM UTC-5, Dan Koren wrote:
> On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 5:01:29 PM UTC-7, mswd...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 5:07:08 PM UTC-5, Dan Koren wrote:
> > > On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 4:53:54 AM UTC-7, Andy Evans wrote:
> > > > On Monday, 12 June 2023 at 02:55:47 UTC+1, mswd...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The audio on Youtube i adequate for a lot of purposes.
> > > Yes, but you are painting with too broad a brush.
> > > One should not generalize to "adequate". There
> > > is plenty of hgh quality 24/192 content on YT
> > > if one knows how to find it.
> > >
> > > > You aren't going to miss the nuance of a performance
> > > > because of sub-optimal audio quality, even if what is
> > > > there is measurably inferior to many other options out
> > > > there. I listen a lot to YT and have no complaints. If I
> > > > want the last bit of quality I might buy the CD or
> > > > download, but that rarely happens.
> > >
> > > What makes you think "the last bit of quality" is not
> > > available on YT? Again, there is plenty of 24/192
> > > material. It won't play through one's browser but
> > > it can be downloaded by offline downloaders
> > > such as YouTube-DL or 4kdownloader.
> >
> > Happy to be corrected. I just know that I don't place
> > any particular value on value on 24/192- certainly not
> > enough to pay for it. Give me enough time and money
> > and I might feel differently- but that is a hypotnetical I
> > may never reach.
> My point was simply that there is plenty of high (by the
> textbook) audio quality content available on YouTube.
>
> Whether it makes sense for one to listen to it, or pay to
> do so, is an entirely personal choice. Incidentally, a lot
> of it is actually "free" on YouTube.
>
> Here is an example: https://youtu.be/zBFSI-x2ETY
>
> Is the recording quality good enough for your ears?
>
> dk

I'm sure it is. I don't rate my ears that highly.

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 by: Owen Hartnett - Tue, 13 Jun 2023 14:49 UTC

On 2023-06-13 02:23:30 +0000, Dan Koren said:

> On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 6:56:28 PM UTC-7, Owen Hartnett wrote:
>> On 2023-06-12 22:07:05 +0000, Dan Koren said:> >> > What makes you
>> think "the last bit of quality" is notavailable on YT?> > Again, there
>> is plenty of 24/192material. It won't play through one's> > browser
>> butit can be downloaded by offline downloaderssuch as> > YouTube-DL or
>> 4kdownloader.>> If you have a Mac, there's an app called PullTube,
>> which enables> you to just copy and paste the YouTube url and download
>> the video> content, without commercials. It also support Vimeo,
>> Facebook,> Instagram, Dailymotion, Soundcloud, Mixcloud, Bandcamp,
>> Youku> and others. You can also trim or split videos by timecodes.>>
>> http://mymixapps.com>> It's cheap, $15 including all future updates,
>> and can usually> download from any video playing website. Well worth
>> it.> There's also a free trial to see if it works for you.
> Is it also available for Windows or Linux?Some folks don't use Macs. ;-)
>
> dk

Looks like it's a Mac only app.

-Owen

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 by: Dan Koren - Tue, 13 Jun 2023 15:54 UTC

On Tuesday, June 13, 2023 at 7:49:59 AM UTC-7, Owen Hartnett wrote:
> On 2023-06-13 02:23:30 +0000, Dan Koren said:
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> > Is it also available for Windows or
> > Linux?Some folks don't use Macs. ;-)
>
> Looks like it's a Mac only app.

Thanks!

dk

Re: Audiophile insanity strikes again

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 by: mswd...@gmail.com - Thu, 15 Jun 2023 01:06 UTC

On Tuesday, June 13, 2023 at 10:54:16 AM UTC-5, Dan Koren wrote:
> On Tuesday, June 13, 2023 at 7:49:59 AM UTC-7, Owen Hartnett wrote:
> > On 2023-06-13 02:23:30 +0000, Dan Koren said:
> >
> > > Is it also available for Windows or
> > > Linux?Some folks don't use Macs. ;-)
> >
> > Looks like it's a Mac only app.
> Thanks!
>
> dk

I think JDownloader does the same thing.

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