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* Wreck N' Rule Bulkhead Up for Pre-OrderZobovor
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|`* Re: Wreck N' Rule Bulkhead Up for Pre-OrderGustavo Wombat, of the Seattle Wombats
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 by: Zobovor - Thu, 12 May 2022 18:13 UTC

As Irrellius reported earlier, the next Amazon-exclusive Wreckers toy is Bulkhead:

https://hasbropulse.com/collections/transformers/products/transformers-legacy-wreck-n-rule-collection-prime-universe-bulkhead

It's a redeco of the current Legacy toy (which is languishing on shelves everywhere as we speak) with some camouflage paint. I guess they realized they couldn't really sell the toy again to us as anybody else except Bulkhead again.

It's been over an hour, and he's still not sold out at Hasbro Pulse yet. The others went quickly. If I remember, I'm going to track him and see how long it takes for him to actually sell out. Definitely not the half-hour time frame of the other toys this week, that's for sure.

Zob

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 by: Zobovor - Thu, 12 May 2022 19:13 UTC

On Thursday, May 12, 2022 at 12:13:34 PM UTC-6, Zobovor wrote:

> If I remember, I'm going to track him and see how long it takes for him to actually sell out.

Eh, it took a couple of hours. I was expecting more like days, to be honest. I'm surprised.

Zob

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 by: Gustavo Wombat, of t - Thu, 12 May 2022 20:38 UTC

On Thursday, May 12, 2022 at 12:13:24 PM UTC-7, Zobovor wrote:
> On Thursday, May 12, 2022 at 12:13:34 PM UTC-6, Zobovor wrote:
>
> > If I remember, I'm going to track him and see how long it takes for him to actually sell out.
> Eh, it took a couple of hours. I was expecting more like days, to be honest. I'm surprised.
>
>
> Zob

He actually looks really nice, and I think he makes a better Bulkhead than the main release. He's less accurate, which lets the figure stand on its own a bit better -- the main release somehow hits the "close, but not close enough" level of homage, like the uncanny valley.

I have him on preorder from Amazon -- perhaps I will rethink it and cancel between now and November, but it's honestly more likely I will forget I ordered it and be surprised when he arrives.

> I guess they realized they couldn't really sell the toy again to us as anybody else except Bulkhead again.

I am positive he is a premold for someone else. If he wasn't, they would have done a better job of capturing the character. Some people have suggested Rise O' The Beasts Optimus Prime, based on alt-mode, and the chest windows, but that would be quite a line mixing and there are no signs of Movieverse detailing.

But, when you look at the first toy that will be released in Cyberverse... maybe? Wrong number of wheels though.

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/2022-rise-of-the-beasts-toys-said-to-be-released-under-cyberverse-toyline/46691/

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 by: Zobovor - Thu, 12 May 2022 21:28 UTC

On Thursday, May 12, 2022 at 2:38:52 PM UTC-6, Gustavo Wombat, of the Seattle Wombats wrote:
> I have him on preorder from Amazon -- perhaps I will rethink it and cancel between now and November, but it's honestly more likely I will forget I ordered it and be surprised when he arrives.

I decided to order him so I could complete the axe. Then I'll probably resell him, or give him to my son, or maybe smash him with a rock.

Just kidding. My son probably wouldn't want him, either.

> I am positive he is a premold for someone else. If he wasn't, they would have done a better job of capturing the character.

Nothing jumps out at me. He's vaguely Grapple/Infernoish, but we already have excellent versions of those characters. I suppose they could retool him a little and sell him in the colors of Machine Wars Optimus Prime. That wouldn't be awful. But it doesn't seem like that's what the toy was designed for, necessarily.

Zob (finally finished setting up my office 100% and I'm very pleased with myself)

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 by: Gustavo Wombat - Fri, 13 May 2022 03:20 UTC

Zobovor <zmfts@aol.com> wrote:
> On Thursday, May 12, 2022 at 2:38:52 PM UTC-6, Gustavo Wombat, of the
> Seattle Wombats wrote:
>
>> I have him on preorder from Amazon -- perhaps I will rethink it and
>> cancel between now and November, but it's honestly more likely I will
>> forget I ordered it and be surprised when he arrives.
>
> I decided to order him so I could complete the axe. Then I'll probably
> resell him, or give him to my son, or maybe smash him with a rock.
>
> Just kidding. My son probably wouldn't want him, either.

He’s a really good toy. Just not a great Bulkhead.

>> I am positive he is a premold for someone else. If he wasn't, they would
>> have done a better job of capturing the character.
>
> Nothing jumps out at me. He's vaguely Grapple/Infernoish, but we already
> have excellent versions of those characters. I suppose they could retool
> him a little and sell him in the colors of Machine Wars Optimus Prime.
> That wouldn't be awful. But it doesn't seem like that's what the toy was
> designed for, necessarily.

He also doesn’t look like he was designed to be Bulkhead though.

I’m just wondering if when his doppelgänger is revealed whether we will all
just collectively say “of course!”, “who ever wanted that guy?” or “But he
doesn’t look like Retrax either!”

(Retrax is not my guess)

> Zob (finally finished setting up my office 100% and I'm very pleased with myself)
>

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 by: Zobovor - Fri, 13 May 2022 22:33 UTC

On Thursday, May 12, 2022 at 9:20:06 PM UTC-6, Gustavo Wombat, of the Seattle Wombats wrote:

> He also doesn’t look like he was designed to be Bulkhead though.

Well, here's honestly what I think happened. Hasbro found this.

https://i.pinimg.com/564x/ee/53/8b/ee538b49390753937f259f6f69bb2260.jpg

It's fan art, but it's also the first Google return you get when you search for "G1 Bulkhead." For anybody who doesn't want to click the link, it's a low-effort reimagining of Bulkhead as a G1 character, using the Grapple body design but with a new head, some backpack flaps, and a personnel carrier type cover instead of a crane arm.

It's been online for years now. Plenty of time for Hasbro to stumble across it and file it away somewhere, perhaps eventually forgetting where it came from. We've seen them do this a few times before.

So, I honestly think this artwork was the genesis for the Legacy Bulkhead toy. Not because it's an authentic and accurate reimagining of Bulkhead, but because somebody at Hasbro saw it, and it exists. Everybody thought it looked like Grapple/Inferno when it came out, and this is probably the reason why.

Zob (has been wrong before, but has also been right a bunch of times)

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 by: Irrellius Spamticon - Sat, 14 May 2022 00:11 UTC

On Friday, May 13, 2022 at 5:33:10 PM UTC-5, Zobovor wrote:
> On Thursday, May 12, 2022 at 9:20:06 PM UTC-6, Gustavo Wombat, of the Seattle Wombats wrote:
>
> > He also doesn’t look like he was designed to be Bulkhead though..
> Well, here's honestly what I think happened. Hasbro found this.
>
> https://i.pinimg.com/564x/ee/53/8b/ee538b49390753937f259f6f69bb2260.jpg
>
> It's fan art, but it's also the first Google return you get when you search for "G1 Bulkhead." For anybody who doesn't want to click the link, it's a low-effort reimagining of Bulkhead as a G1 character, using the Grapple body design but with a new head, some backpack flaps, and a personnel carrier type cover instead of a crane arm.
>
> It's been online for years now. Plenty of time for Hasbro to stumble across it and file it away somewhere, perhaps eventually forgetting where it came from. We've seen them do this a few times before.
>
> So, I honestly think this artwork was the genesis for the Legacy Bulkhead toy. Not because it's an authentic and accurate reimagining of Bulkhead, but because somebody at Hasbro saw it, and it exists. Everybody thought it looked like Grapple/Inferno when it came out, and this is probably the reason why.
>
>
> Zob (has been wrong before, but has also been right a bunch of times)

I think they merged Animated BulkheadPrime Bulkhead and movie Hound to make G1 Bulkhead.

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From: gustavow...@yahoo.com (Gustavo Wombat)
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Subject: Re: Wreck N' Rule Bulkhead Up for Pre-Order
Date: Fri, 27 May 2022 05:37:48 -0000 (UTC)
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 by: Gustavo Wombat - Fri, 27 May 2022 05:37 UTC

Zobovor <zmfts@aol.com> wrote:
> As Irrellius reported earlier, the next Amazon-exclusive Wreckers toy is Bulkhead:
>
>
> https://hasbropulse.com/collections/transformers/products/transformers-legacy-wreck-n-rule-collection-prime-universe-bulkhead
>
> It's a redeco of the current Legacy toy (which is languishing on shelves
> everywhere as we speak) with some camouflage paint. I guess they
> realized they couldn't really sell the toy again to us as anybody else
> except Bulkhead again.

I stilllike the camouflage, and I’m coming abound on the mold as being
Bulkhead, kind of, but he needs something else to tie him to the character.

He needs Miko.

Prime Bulkhead without Miko is just weird. She’s a little Japanese girl
with little regard to her own safety, quick to anger, and she balances the
slow, gentle, violent giant that is Bulkhead with her intemperate, poorly
considered decisions and her spark for life. Bulkhead as a character is
defined by his relationship with Miko as much as his physical appearance.

Miko could be a Targetmaster, because even though she wouldn’t resemble the
original character in the slightest, she would absolutely love to go shoot
things.

The Bulkhead toy has a well placed 5mm port for her in vehicle mode.

Now I’m wondering how I’m going to make a Miko Targetmaster — what colors,
how to make a Targetmaster those colors, etc. definitely needs pink trim
for the streak in her hair. Are there any decent 3rd party Targetmasters,
or am I just down to the Siege Battlemasters, RIT dye and paint?

(In theory the Prime Arcee should also have Jack, but it’s not a great toy…
and Jack would not want to be a Targetmaster)

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