"Diplomatic Immunity (Miles Vorkosigan Adventures)" by Lois McMaster Bujold
https://www.amazon.com/Diplomatic-Immunity-Miles-Vorkosigan-Adventures/dp/0743436121/

Book number fifteen (in chronological order) of an eighteen book space
opera series. However, some people call this a military science fiction
series. There are several other books and short stories in the
Vorkosigan Universe. This series won the Hugo and Nebula awards for
best series in 2017. Also, several of the individual books in the
series have either won awards or been nominated for awards. This book
was nominated for the 2003 Hugo and Nebula awards for best novel. This
is my second reading of this book. I reread the well printed and well
bound new MMPB published by Baen in 2003 that I just rebought on Amazon
(the fourth printing !). I have rebought the rest of the books in the
series in MMPB.

Imperial Auditor Miles Vorkosigan is on his long delayed honeymoon with
his wife Ekaterin before their two children are due to be decanted from
their uterine replicators. Nearing the end of their cruise to Earth and
back, a Barrayar Imperial Courier catches up with the space ship and
delivers an unwelcome message. His Imperial Majesty pleads that he
decamp into the courier and head at the highest speed to a 400 year old
space station in Quaddie space to rescue a Komarran trade fleet. Miles
and his wife do so, thus adding weeks to their journey home.

Vorkosigan Saga (Chronological) by Lois McMaster Bujold
https://www.goodreads.com/series/98254-vorkosigan-saga-chronological
1. Dreamweaver's Dilemma
2. Falling Free
3. Shards of Honor
4. Barrayar
5. The Warrior's Apprentice
6. The Borders of Infinity (The Mountains of Mourning, etc)
7. The Vor Game
8. Cetaganda
9. Ethan Of Athos
10. Brothers in Arms
11. Mirror Dance
12. Memory
13. Komarr
14. A Civil Campaign
15. Diplomatic Immunity
16. Captain Vorpatril's Alliance
17. CryoBurn
18. Gentleman Jole and the Red Queen

My rating: 5 out of 5 stars
Amazon rating: 4.7 out of 5 stars (405 reviews)

Lynn

On 2021-08-31, Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Diplomatic Immunity (Miles Vorkosigan Adventures)" by Lois McMaster Bujold
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Diplomatic-Immunity-Miles-Vorkosigan-Adventures/dp/0743436121/
>
<snip>
>
> My rating: 5 out of 5 stars
> Amazon rating: 4.7 out of 5 stars (405 reviews)
>
> Lynn

I don't know if it's bad form, but I wanted to write to concur with your rating.

I unabashedly love the Vorkosigan Saga in its entirety, though of course I
recognize that some books were better than others. This book, I thought, finally
gave us a good look at what Miles and Ekaterine were like as an established
married couple on an unexpected adventure, and showed excellent character
development (a feature that I love about the whole saga).

But I'm biased. Bujold is in my short list of top favorite authors.

Lafe

On 9/1/2021 4:22 PM, Lafe wrote:
> On 2021-08-31, Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>> "Diplomatic Immunity (Miles Vorkosigan Adventures)" by Lois McMaster Bujold
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/Diplomatic-Immunity-Miles-Vorkosigan-Adventures/dp/0743436121/
>>
> <snip>
>>
>> My rating: 5 out of 5 stars
>> Amazon rating: 4.7 out of 5 stars (405 reviews)
>>
>> Lynn
>
> I don't know if it's bad form, but I wanted to write to concur with your rating.
>
> I unabashedly love the Vorkosigan Saga in its entirety, though of course I
> recognize that some books were better than others. This book, I thought, finally
> gave us a good look at what Miles and Ekaterine were like as an established
> married couple on an unexpected adventure, and showed excellent character
> development (a feature that I love about the whole saga).
>
> But I'm biased. Bujold is in my short list of top favorite authors.
>
> Lafe

Not bad form at all ! Note that I gave the previous book, A Civil
Campaign, six stars.

Thanks,
Lynn

Lafe <lafe@lafes.newlafe.net> schrieb:
> On 2021-08-31, Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>> "Diplomatic Immunity (Miles Vorkosigan Adventures)" by Lois McMaster Bujold
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/Diplomatic-Immunity-Miles-Vorkosigan-Adventures/dp/0743436121/
>>
><snip>
>>
>> My rating: 5 out of 5 stars
>> Amazon rating: 4.7 out of 5 stars (405 reviews)
>>
>> Lynn
>
> I don't know if it's bad form, but I wanted to write to concur with your rating.
>
> I unabashedly love the Vorkosigan Saga in its entirety, though of course I
> recognize that some books were better than others.

I don't, not any more. I loved it, but the torture scenes in
"Mirror Dance" rather put me off.

On 9/1/2021 4:47 PM, Thomas Koenig wrote:
> Lafe <lafe@lafes.newlafe.net> schrieb:
>> On 2021-08-31, Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> "Diplomatic Immunity (Miles Vorkosigan Adventures)" by Lois McMaster Bujold
>>>
>>> https://www.amazon.com/Diplomatic-Immunity-Miles-Vorkosigan-Adventures/dp/0743436121/
>>>
>> <snip>
>>>
>>> My rating: 5 out of 5 stars
>>> Amazon rating: 4.7 out of 5 stars (405 reviews)
>>>
>>> Lynn
>>
>> I don't know if it's bad form, but I wanted to write to concur with your rating.
>>
>> I unabashedly love the Vorkosigan Saga in its entirety, though of course I
>> recognize that some books were better than others.
>
> I don't, not any more. I loved it, but the torture scenes in
> "Mirror Dance" rather put me off.

I skipped the torture scenes. And Lord Mark is totally off in the deep
end as far as PTSD.

Lynn

On 2021-09-01, Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 9/1/2021 4:22 PM, Lafe wrote:
>> On 2021-08-31, Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I don't know if it's bad form, but I wanted to write to concur with your rating.
>>
>> I unabashedly love the Vorkosigan Saga in its entirety, though of course I
>> recognize that some books were better than others. This book, I thought, finally
>> gave us a good look at what Miles and Ekaterine were like as an established
>> married couple on an unexpected adventure, and showed excellent character
>> development (a feature that I love about the whole saga).
>>
>> But I'm biased. Bujold is in my short list of top favorite authors.
>>
>> Lafe
>
> Not bad form at all ! Note that I gave the previous book, A Civil
> Campaign, six stars.
>
> Thanks,
> Lynn

I can agree with 6 out of 5 stars for A Civil Campaign. I am a little bit
concerned that Gentleman Jole and the Red Queen felt like a goodbye of sorts to
the saga, and I hope that's not the case. Though I could hardly fault Bujold for
wanting to focus on her other creations.

Lafe

Lafe <lafe@lafes.newlafe.net> wrote in
news:16a0d2a1166cb9ad$1$1696463$c0d58a68@news.newsdemon.com:

> On 2021-09-01, Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 9/1/2021 4:22 PM, Lafe wrote:
>>> On 2021-08-31, Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I don't know if it's bad form, but I wanted to write to concur
>>> with your rating.
>>>
>>> I unabashedly love the Vorkosigan Saga in its entirety, though
>>> of course I recognize that some books were better than others.
>>> This book, I thought, finally gave us a good look at what
>>> Miles and Ekaterine were like as an established married couple
>>> on an unexpected adventure, and showed excellent character
>>> development (a feature that I love about the whole saga).
>>>
>>> But I'm biased. Bujold is in my short list of top favorite
>>> authors.
>>>
>>> Lafe
>>
>> Not bad form at all ! Note that I gave the previous book, A
>> Civil Campaign, six stars.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Lynn
>
> I can agree with 6 out of 5 stars for A Civil Campaign. I am a
> little bit concerned that Gentleman Jole and the Red Queen felt
> like a goodbye of sorts to the saga, and I hope that's not the
> case. Though I could hardly fault Bujold for wanting to focus on
> her other creations.
>
She has said more than once that she does not, at this time, have
any more stories to tell about those characters. But has not ruled
out the possiblity that something will occur to her in the future.

Mostly, she's been playing with the Penric series lately.

--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration
(May 2019 total for people arrested for entering the United States
illegally is over 132,000 for just the southwest border.)

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

On Wed, 01 Sep 2021 16:26:14 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
<taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:

>Lafe <lafe@lafes.newlafe.net> wrote in
>news:16a0d2a1166cb9ad$1$1696463$c0d58a68@news.newsdemon.com:

<snip>

>> I can agree with 6 out of 5 stars for A Civil Campaign. I am a
>> little bit concerned that Gentleman Jole and the Red Queen felt
>> like a goodbye of sorts to the saga, and I hope that's not the
>> case. Though I could hardly fault Bujold for wanting to focus on
>> her other creations.
>>
>She has said more than once that she does not, at this time, have
>any more stories to tell about those characters. But has not ruled
>out the possiblity that something will occur to her in the future.

IIRC the Cordelia short set in the radioactive Vorkisogan land came
out after she said that, so maybe we'll still get the occasional
story. Hope so.

>Mostly, she's been playing with the Penric series lately.

--
Jerry Brown

A cat may look at a king
(but probably won't bother)

On 2021-09-01, Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote:
<snip>
>> I don't know if it's bad form, but I wanted to write to concur with your rating.
>>
>> I unabashedly love the Vorkosigan Saga in its entirety, though of course I
>> recognize that some books were better than others.
>
> I don't, not any more. I loved it, but the torture scenes in
> "Mirror Dance" rather put me off.

I think that's fair. I don't think those scenes were meant to be "enjoyed". They
were part of a redemption arc, of sorts, for Mark. He goes back to the worst
part of his past, in the most desperate time of his life, and ends up going
through horrors to come out (only somewhat) redeemed. Though in true Bujold
style, no victories are complete and uncomplicated.

But exploring those topics in that way is certainly not for everyone.

Lafe

On 2021-09-01, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
> Lafe <lafe@lafes.newlafe.net> wrote in
> news:16a0d2a1166cb9ad$1$1696463$c0d58a68@news.newsdemon.com:
<snip>
>> I can agree with 6 out of 5 stars for A Civil Campaign. I am a
>> little bit concerned that Gentleman Jole and the Red Queen felt
>> like a goodbye of sorts to the saga, and I hope that's not the
>> case. Though I could hardly fault Bujold for wanting to focus on
>> her other creations.
>>
> She has said more than once that she does not, at this time, have
> any more stories to tell about those characters. But has not ruled
> out the possiblity that something will occur to her in the future.
>
> Mostly, she's been playing with the Penric series lately.

I have really enjoyed the Penric series as well, though it feels
a little less serious than the Vorkosigan saga. Very fun to read
though!

Lafe

Jerry Brown <jerry@jwbrown.co.uk.invalid> wrote in
news:nqr0jg575ad4i3tg2eqdnsan4ghtdie3sk@jwbrown.co.uk:

> On Wed, 01 Sep 2021 16:26:14 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili
> Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Lafe <lafe@lafes.newlafe.net> wrote in
>>news:16a0d2a1166cb9ad$1$1696463$c0d58a68@news.newsdemon.com:
>
> <snip>
>
>>> I can agree with 6 out of 5 stars for A Civil Campaign. I am a
>>> little bit concerned that Gentleman Jole and the Red Queen
>>> felt like a goodbye of sorts to the saga, and I hope that's
>>> not the case. Though I could hardly fault Bujold for wanting
>>> to focus on her other creations.
>>>
>>She has said more than once that she does not, at this time,
>>have any more stories to tell about those characters. But has
>>not ruled out the possiblity that something will occur to her in
>>the future.
>
>
> IIRC the Cordelia short set in the radioactive Vorkisogan land
> came out after she said that, so maybe we'll still get the
> occasional story. Hope so.

Inspiration can strike at any time, but she's officially "retired"
now, and can do whatever the hell she wants.
>
>>Mostly, she's been playing with the Penric series lately.
>
>

--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration
(May 2019 total for people arrested for entering the United States
illegally is over 132,000 for just the southwest border.)

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

On 02/09/2021 11.11, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
> Jerry Brown <jerry@jwbrown.co.uk.invalid> wrote in
> news:nqr0jg575ad4i3tg2eqdnsan4ghtdie3sk@jwbrown.co.uk:
>
>> On Wed, 01 Sep 2021 16:26:14 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili
>> Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:

>>> She has said more than once that she does not, at this time,
>>> have any more stories to tell about those characters. But has
>>> not ruled out the possiblity that something will occur to her in
>>> the future.
>>
>> IIRC the Cordelia short set in the radioactive Vorkisogan land
>> came out after she said that, so maybe we'll still get the
>> occasional story. Hope so.
>
> Inspiration can strike at any time, but she's officially "retired"
> now, and can do whatever the hell she wants.

Who is retired? Cordelia or LMB?

--
Michael F. Stemper
Psalm 82:1-4

"Michael F. Stemper" <michael.stemper@gmail.com> wrote in news:sgt5up
$o97$1@dont-email.me:

> On 02/09/2021 11.11, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
>> Jerry Brown <jerry@jwbrown.co.uk.invalid> wrote in
>> news:nqr0jg575ad4i3tg2eqdnsan4ghtdie3sk@jwbrown.co.uk:
>>
>>> On Wed, 01 Sep 2021 16:26:14 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili
>>> Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>> She has said more than once that she does not, at this time,
>>>> have any more stories to tell about those characters. But has
>>>> not ruled out the possiblity that something will occur to her in
>>>> the future.
>>>
>>> IIRC the Cordelia short set in the radioactive Vorkisogan land
>>> came out after she said that, so maybe we'll still get the
>>> occasional story. Hope so.
>>
>> Inspiration can strike at any time, but she's officially "retired"
>> now, and can do whatever the hell she wants.
>
> Who is retired? Cordelia or LMB?
>
LMB. Officially. In reality, what she writes now, she self publishes
thruogh Amazon, etc. A lot of it (the Penric stuff) is too short for
a novel, and would be hard to sell anyway.

--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

On 9/2/2021 1:33 AM, Jerry Brown wrote:
> On Wed, 01 Sep 2021 16:26:14 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Lafe <lafe@lafes.newlafe.net> wrote in
>> news:16a0d2a1166cb9ad$1$1696463$c0d58a68@news.newsdemon.com:
>
> <snip>
>
>>> I can agree with 6 out of 5 stars for A Civil Campaign. I am a
>>> little bit concerned that Gentleman Jole and the Red Queen felt
>>> like a goodbye of sorts to the saga, and I hope that's not the
>>> case. Though I could hardly fault Bujold for wanting to focus on
>>> her other creations.
>>>
>> She has said more than once that she does not, at this time, have
>> any more stories to tell about those characters. But has not ruled
>> out the possiblity that something will occur to her in the future.
>
>
> IIRC the Cordelia short set in the radioactive Vorkisogan land came
> out after she said that, so maybe we'll still get the occasional
> story. Hope so.

And it is not buyable in dead tree form for a reasonable amount. And it
is Ekaterin, not Cordelia. "The Flowers of Vashnoi: Vorkosigan Saga
(Miles Vorkosigan Novellas)"
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07D4M7N3L/

Lynn

Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote in
news:sgtpf9$btt$1@dont-email.me:

> On 9/2/2021 1:33 AM, Jerry Brown wrote:
>> On Wed, 01 Sep 2021 16:26:14 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili
>> Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Lafe <lafe@lafes.newlafe.net> wrote in
>>> news:16a0d2a1166cb9ad$1$1696463$c0d58a68@news.newsdemon.com:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>>> I can agree with 6 out of 5 stars for A Civil Campaign. I am
>>>> a little bit concerned that Gentleman Jole and the Red Queen
>>>> felt like a goodbye of sorts to the saga, and I hope that's
>>>> not the case. Though I could hardly fault Bujold for wanting
>>>> to focus on her other creations.
>>>>
>>> She has said more than once that she does not, at this time,
>>> have any more stories to tell about those characters. But has
>>> not ruled out the possiblity that something will occur to her
>>> in the future.
>>
>>
>> IIRC the Cordelia short set in the radioactive Vorkisogan land
>> came out after she said that, so maybe we'll still get the
>> occasional story. Hope so.
>
> And it is not buyable in dead tree form for a reasonable amount.
> And it is Ekaterin, not Cordelia. "The Flowers of Vashnoi:
> Vorkosigan Saga (Miles Vorkosigan Novellas)"
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07D4M7N3L/

That is the drawback to the self-publishing process she uses. You
have to pay attention and order it when it's new, before
Subterranian runs out.

--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

On 9/3/2021 2:46 PM, Ninapenda Jibini wrote:
> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:sgtpf9$btt$1@dont-email.me:
>
>> On 9/2/2021 1:33 AM, Jerry Brown wrote:
>>> On Wed, 01 Sep 2021 16:26:14 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili
>>> Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Lafe <lafe@lafes.newlafe.net> wrote in
>>>> news:16a0d2a1166cb9ad$1$1696463$c0d58a68@news.newsdemon.com:
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>>> I can agree with 6 out of 5 stars for A Civil Campaign. I am
>>>>> a little bit concerned that Gentleman Jole and the Red Queen
>>>>> felt like a goodbye of sorts to the saga, and I hope that's
>>>>> not the case. Though I could hardly fault Bujold for wanting
>>>>> to focus on her other creations.
>>>>>
>>>> She has said more than once that she does not, at this time,
>>>> have any more stories to tell about those characters. But has
>>>> not ruled out the possiblity that something will occur to her
>>>> in the future.
>>>
>>>
>>> IIRC the Cordelia short set in the radioactive Vorkisogan land
>>> came out after she said that, so maybe we'll still get the
>>> occasional story. Hope so.
>>
>> And it is not buyable in dead tree form for a reasonable amount.
>> And it is Ekaterin, not Cordelia. "The Flowers of Vashnoi:
>> Vorkosigan Saga (Miles Vorkosigan Novellas)"
>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07D4M7N3L/
>
> That is the drawback to the self-publishing process she uses. You
> have to pay attention and order it when it's new, before
> Subterranian runs out.

Amazon has an excellent print on demand service. Too bad she is not
using it.

Lynn

Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote in
news:sgu3ba$fv1$2@dont-email.me:

> On 9/3/2021 2:46 PM, Ninapenda Jibini wrote:
>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:sgtpf9$btt$1@dont-email.me:
>>
>>> On 9/2/2021 1:33 AM, Jerry Brown wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 01 Sep 2021 16:26:14 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili
>>>> Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Lafe <lafe@lafes.newlafe.net> wrote in
>>>>> news:16a0d2a1166cb9ad$1$1696463$c0d58a68@news.newsdemon.com:
>>>>
>>>> <snip>
>>>>
>>>>>> I can agree with 6 out of 5 stars for A Civil Campaign. I
>>>>>> am a little bit concerned that Gentleman Jole and the Red
>>>>>> Queen felt like a goodbye of sorts to the saga, and I hope
>>>>>> that's not the case. Though I could hardly fault Bujold for
>>>>>> wanting to focus on her other creations.
>>>>>>
>>>>> She has said more than once that she does not, at this time,
>>>>> have any more stories to tell about those characters. But
>>>>> has not ruled out the possiblity that something will occur
>>>>> to her in the future.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> IIRC the Cordelia short set in the radioactive Vorkisogan
>>>> land came out after she said that, so maybe we'll still get
>>>> the occasional story. Hope so.
>>>
>>> And it is not buyable in dead tree form for a reasonable
>>> amount.
>>> And it is Ekaterin, not Cordelia. "The Flowers of Vashnoi:
>>> Vorkosigan Saga (Miles Vorkosigan Novellas)"
>>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07D4M7N3L/
>>
>> That is the drawback to the self-publishing process she uses.
>> You have to pay attention and order it when it's new, before
>> Subterranian runs out.
>
> Amazon has an excellent print on demand service. Too bad she is
> not using it.
>
I suspect she doesn't like the terms. Or just doesn't want to deal
with print any more than absolutely necessary, and Subterranean
handles the autographed copies she can't avoid pretty well.

--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration
(May 2019 total for people arrested for entering the United States
illegally is over 132,000 for just the southwest border.)

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

On 9/3/2021 5:17 PM, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:sgu3ba$fv1$2@dont-email.me:
>
>> On 9/3/2021 2:46 PM, Ninapenda Jibini wrote:
>>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:sgtpf9$btt$1@dont-email.me:
>>>
>>>> On 9/2/2021 1:33 AM, Jerry Brown wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 01 Sep 2021 16:26:14 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili
>>>>> Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Lafe <lafe@lafes.newlafe.net> wrote in
>>>>>> news:16a0d2a1166cb9ad$1$1696463$c0d58a68@news.newsdemon.com:
>>>>>
>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> I can agree with 6 out of 5 stars for A Civil Campaign. I
>>>>>>> am a little bit concerned that Gentleman Jole and the Red
>>>>>>> Queen felt like a goodbye of sorts to the saga, and I hope
>>>>>>> that's not the case. Though I could hardly fault Bujold for
>>>>>>> wanting to focus on her other creations.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> She has said more than once that she does not, at this time,
>>>>>> have any more stories to tell about those characters. But
>>>>>> has not ruled out the possiblity that something will occur
>>>>>> to her in the future.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> IIRC the Cordelia short set in the radioactive Vorkisogan
>>>>> land came out after she said that, so maybe we'll still get
>>>>> the occasional story. Hope so.
>>>>
>>>> And it is not buyable in dead tree form for a reasonable
>>>> amount.
>>>> And it is Ekaterin, not Cordelia. "The Flowers of Vashnoi:
>>>> Vorkosigan Saga (Miles Vorkosigan Novellas)"
>>>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07D4M7N3L/
>>>
>>> That is the drawback to the self-publishing process she uses.
>>> You have to pay attention and order it when it's new, before
>>> Subterranian runs out.
>>
>> Amazon has an excellent print on demand service. Too bad she is
>> not using it.
>>
> I suspect she doesn't like the terms. Or just doesn't want to deal
> with print any more than absolutely necessary, and Subterranean
> handles the autographed copies she can't avoid pretty well.

Huh, I just looked. Subterranian does have the hardcover for $25. That
is a lot for a 100 page book.
https://subterraneanpress.com/flowers-of-vashnoi

Lynn

On Friday, September 3, 2021 at 12:22:40 PM UTC-4, Ninapenda Jibini wrote:
> "Michael F. Stemper" <michael...@gmail.com> wrote in news:sgt5up
> $o97$1...@dont-email.me:
> > On 02/09/2021 11.11, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
> >> Jerry Brown <je...@jwbrown.co.uk.invalid> wrote in
> >> news:nqr0jg575ad4i3tg2...@jwbrown.co.uk:
> >>
> >>> On Wed, 01 Sep 2021 16:26:14 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili
> >>> Kujisalimisha <taus...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>>> She has said more than once that she does not, at this time,
> >>>> have any more stories to tell about those characters. But has
> >>>> not ruled out the possiblity that something will occur to her in
> >>>> the future.
> >>>
> >>> IIRC the Cordelia short set in the radioactive Vorkisogan land
> >>> came out after she said that, so maybe we'll still get the
> >>> occasional story. Hope so.
> >>
> >> Inspiration can strike at any time, but she's officially "retired"
> >> now, and can do whatever the hell she wants.
> >
> > Who is retired? Cordelia or LMB?
> >
> LMB. Officially. In reality, what she writes now, she self publishes
> thruogh Amazon, etc. A lot of it (the Penric stuff) is too short for
> a novel, and would be hard to sell anyway.
>

I was pleased to learn about (and purchase) two Penric collections
that Baen put out in 2020 (Penric's Progress and Penric's Travels).
Each has 3 stories, and together they include all the Penric stuff she'd
(self-)published through 2017. Isfdb says she's (self-)published 4 more
Penric stories since then, but I don't know if Baen will collect&publish
those or not.

Tony

On 9/3/2021 5:37 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> On 9/3/2021 5:17 PM, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:sgu3ba$fv1$2@dont-email.me:
>>
>>> On 9/3/2021 2:46 PM, Ninapenda Jibini wrote:
>>>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>> news:sgtpf9$btt$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>
>>>>> On 9/2/2021 1:33 AM, Jerry Brown wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 01 Sep 2021 16:26:14 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili
>>>>>> Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lafe <lafe@lafes.newlafe.net> wrote in
>>>>>>> news:16a0d2a1166cb9ad$1$1696463$c0d58a68@news.newsdemon.com:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I can agree with 6 out of 5 stars for A Civil Campaign. I
>>>>>>>> am a little bit concerned that Gentleman Jole and the Red
>>>>>>>> Queen felt like a goodbye of sorts to the saga, and I hope
>>>>>>>> that's not the case. Though I could hardly fault Bujold for
>>>>>>>> wanting to focus on her other creations.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> She has said more than once that she does not, at this time,
>>>>>>> have any more stories to tell about those characters. But
>>>>>>> has not ruled out the possiblity that something will occur
>>>>>>> to her in the future.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> IIRC the Cordelia short set in the radioactive Vorkisogan
>>>>>> land came out after she said that, so maybe we'll still get
>>>>>> the occasional story. Hope so.
>>>>>
>>>>> And it is not buyable in dead tree form for a reasonable
>>>>> amount.
>>>>>    And it is Ekaterin, not Cordelia.  "The Flowers of Vashnoi:
>>>>> Vorkosigan Saga (Miles Vorkosigan Novellas)"
>>>>>       https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07D4M7N3L/
>>>>
>>>> That is the drawback to the self-publishing process she uses.
>>>> You have to pay attention and order it when it's new, before
>>>> Subterranian runs out.
>>>
>>> Amazon has an excellent print on demand service.  Too bad she is
>>> not using it.
>>>
>> I suspect she doesn't like the terms. Or just doesn't want to deal
>> with print any more than absolutely necessary, and Subterranean
>> handles the autographed copies she can't avoid pretty well.
>
> Huh, I just looked.  Subterranian does have the hardcover for $25.  That
> is a lot for a 100 page book.
>    https://subterraneanpress.com/flowers-of-vashnoi
>
> Lynn

And it is out of print of course.

Lynn

On 2021-09-03, Tony Nance <tonynance17@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Friday, September 3, 2021 at 12:22:40 PM UTC-4, Ninapenda Jibini wrote:
>> "Michael F. Stemper" <michael...@gmail.com> wrote in news:sgt5up
>> $o97$1...@dont-email.me:
<snip>
>> LMB. Officially. In reality, what she writes now, she self publishes
>> thruogh Amazon, etc. A lot of it (the Penric stuff) is too short for
>> a novel, and would be hard to sell anyway.
>>
>
> I was pleased to learn about (and purchase) two Penric collections
> that Baen put out in 2020 (Penric's Progress and Penric's Travels).
> Each has 3 stories, and together they include all the Penric stuff she'd
> (self-)published through 2017. Isfdb says she's (self-)published 4 more
> Penric stories since then, but I don't know if Baen will collect&publish
> those or not.
>
> Tony

Thank you for mentioning this! You inspired me to go look, and I see that she
has written a new Penric & Desdemona book since I last looked. _The Assassins of
Thasalon_ has been released.

I now have plans for tonight. :)

Lafe

Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote in
news:sgu9al$om3$1@dont-email.me:

> On 9/3/2021 5:37 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>> On 9/3/2021 5:17 PM, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
>>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:sgu3ba$fv1$2@dont-email.me:
>>>
>>>> On 9/3/2021 2:46 PM, Ninapenda Jibini wrote:
>>>>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>> news:sgtpf9$btt$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/2/2021 1:33 AM, Jerry Brown wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, 01 Sep 2021 16:26:14 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili
>>>>>>> Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Lafe <lafe@lafes.newlafe.net> wrote in
>>>>>>>> news:16a0d2a1166cb9ad$1$1696463$c0d58a68@news.newsdemon.co
>>>>>>>> m:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I can agree with 6 out of 5 stars for A Civil Campaign.
>>>>>>>>> I am a little bit concerned that Gentleman Jole and the
>>>>>>>>> Red Queen felt like a goodbye of sorts to the saga, and
>>>>>>>>> I hope that's not the case. Though I could hardly fault
>>>>>>>>> Bujold for wanting to focus on her other creations.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> She has said more than once that she does not, at this
>>>>>>>> time, have any more stories to tell about those
>>>>>>>> characters. But has not ruled out the possiblity that
>>>>>>>> something will occur to her in the future.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> IIRC the Cordelia short set in the radioactive Vorkisogan
>>>>>>> land came out after she said that, so maybe we'll still
>>>>>>> get the occasional story. Hope so.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And it is not buyable in dead tree form for a reasonable
>>>>>> amount.
>>>>>>    And it is Ekaterin, not Cordelia.  "The Flowers of
>>>>>> Vashnoi: Vorkosigan Saga (Miles Vorkosigan Novellas)"
>>>>>>       https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07D4M7N3L/
>>>>>
>>>>> That is the drawback to the self-publishing process she
>>>>> uses. You have to pay attention and order it when it's new,
>>>>> before Subterranian runs out.
>>>>
>>>> Amazon has an excellent print on demand service.  Too bad
>>>> she is not using it.
>>>>
>>> I suspect she doesn't like the terms. Or just doesn't want to
>>> deal with print any more than absolutely necessary, and
>>> Subterranean handles the autographed copies she can't avoid
>>> pretty well.
>>
>> Huh, I just looked.  Subterranian does have the hardcover for
>> $25.  That is a lot for a 100 page book.
>>    https://subterraneanpress.com/flowers-of-vashnoi
>>
>> Lynn
>
> And it is out of print of course.
>
As I said, keep an eye out for new works, and order right away when
they're release.

ABEBooks has at least one copy, but they want your left testicle
for it. (Probably signed, but still. $250?)

If enough people express interest, Subterranean will do reprints.
But it's got to be worth the trouble.

(Walmart shows it for $19. But is also out of stuck.)

--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration
(May 2019 total for people arrested for entering the United States
illegally is over 132,000 for just the southwest border.)

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

Lafe <lafe@lafes.newlafe.net> wrote in
news:16a172f923eb1dfd$1$1200776$d54a64@news.newsdemon.com:

> On 2021-09-03, Tony Nance <tonynance17@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Friday, September 3, 2021 at 12:22:40 PM UTC-4, Ninapenda
>> Jibini wrote:
>>> "Michael F. Stemper" <michael...@gmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:sgt5up $o97$1...@dont-email.me:
> <snip>
>>> LMB. Officially. In reality, what she writes now, she self
>>> publishes thruogh Amazon, etc. A lot of it (the Penric stuff)
>>> is too short for a novel, and would be hard to sell anyway.
>>>
>>
>> I was pleased to learn about (and purchase) two Penric
>> collections that Baen put out in 2020 (Penric's Progress and
>> Penric's Travels). Each has 3 stories, and together they
>> include all the Penric stuff she'd (self-)published through
>> 2017. Isfdb says she's (self-)published 4 more Penric stories
>> since then, but I don't know if Baen will collect&publish those
>> or not.
>>
>> Tony
>
> Thank you for mentioning this! You inspired me to go look, and I
> see that she has written a new Penric & Desdemona book since I
> last looked. _The Assassins of Thasalon_ has been released.
>
> I now have plans for tonight. :)
>
It's up to her usual standards. Which are pretty high.

--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration
(May 2019 total for people arrested for entering the United States
illegally is over 132,000 for just the southwest border.)

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

On 9/3/2021 6:20 PM, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:sgu9al$om3$1@dont-email.me:
>
>> On 9/3/2021 5:37 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>> On 9/3/2021 5:17 PM, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
>>>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>> news:sgu3ba$fv1$2@dont-email.me:
>>>>
>>>>> On 9/3/2021 2:46 PM, Ninapenda Jibini wrote:
>>>>>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>> news:sgtpf9$btt$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 9/2/2021 1:33 AM, Jerry Brown wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 01 Sep 2021 16:26:14 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili
>>>>>>>> Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Lafe <lafe@lafes.newlafe.net> wrote in
>>>>>>>>> news:16a0d2a1166cb9ad$1$1696463$c0d58a68@news.newsdemon.co
>>>>>>>>> m:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I can agree with 6 out of 5 stars for A Civil Campaign.
>>>>>>>>>> I am a little bit concerned that Gentleman Jole and the
>>>>>>>>>> Red Queen felt like a goodbye of sorts to the saga, and
>>>>>>>>>> I hope that's not the case. Though I could hardly fault
>>>>>>>>>> Bujold for wanting to focus on her other creations.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> She has said more than once that she does not, at this
>>>>>>>>> time, have any more stories to tell about those
>>>>>>>>> characters. But has not ruled out the possiblity that
>>>>>>>>> something will occur to her in the future.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> IIRC the Cordelia short set in the radioactive Vorkisogan
>>>>>>>> land came out after she said that, so maybe we'll still
>>>>>>>> get the occasional story. Hope so.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And it is not buyable in dead tree form for a reasonable
>>>>>>> amount.
>>>>>>>    And it is Ekaterin, not Cordelia.  "The Flowers of
>>>>>>> Vashnoi: Vorkosigan Saga (Miles Vorkosigan Novellas)"
>>>>>>>       https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07D4M7N3L/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is the drawback to the self-publishing process she
>>>>>> uses. You have to pay attention and order it when it's new,
>>>>>> before Subterranian runs out.
>>>>>
>>>>> Amazon has an excellent print on demand service.  Too bad
>>>>> she is not using it.
>>>>>
>>>> I suspect she doesn't like the terms. Or just doesn't want to
>>>> deal with print any more than absolutely necessary, and
>>>> Subterranean handles the autographed copies she can't avoid
>>>> pretty well.
>>>
>>> Huh, I just looked.  Subterranian does have the hardcover for
>>> $25.  That is a lot for a 100 page book.
>>>    https://subterraneanpress.com/flowers-of-vashnoi
>>>
>>> Lynn
>>
>> And it is out of print of course.
>>
> As I said, keep an eye out for new works, and order right away when
> they're release.
>
> ABEBooks has at least one copy, but they want your left testicle
> for it. (Probably signed, but still. $250?)
>
> If enough people express interest, Subterranean will do reprints.
> But it's got to be worth the trouble.
>
> (Walmart shows it for $19. But is also out of stuck.)

Bummer. LMB has a POD version of "The Mountains Of Mourning" out on Big
River. Too bad she does not have her other novellas on POD.
https://www.amazon.com/Mountains-Mourning-Vorkosigan-Winning-Novella/dp/1612421857/

Lynn

On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 21:47:11 -0000 (UTC), Thomas Koenig
<tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote:

> I don't, not any more. I loved it, but the torture scenes in
> "Mirror Dance" rather put me off.

Those didn't bother me half as much as the scenes of Mark setting
himself up for it, and endangering the Dendari Mercenaries as well.

I liked the clean-up scene in which he ordered that all the films of
his torture be destroyed, lest his mother see them.

--
Joy Beeson
joy beeson at centurylink dot net
http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/