https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNQ_qOSqwZs

Maybe just try being a gay or bi dude or a transvestite or sth... no more hormones, no more harm to your body...

On Wed, 02 Aug 2023 11:42:14 -0700, Marc S wrote:

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNQ_qOSqwZs
>
> Maybe just try being a gay or bi dude or a transvestite or sth... no more hormones, no more harm to your body...

Misleading link, I don't see anything in that video about
gays or hormones.

Pluted Pup schrieb am Donnerstag, 3. August 2023 um 08:03:16 UTC+2:
> On Wed, 02 Aug 2023 11:42:14 -0700, Marc S wrote:
>
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNQ_qOSqwZs
> >
> > Maybe just try being a gay or bi dude or a transvestite or sth... no more hormones, no more harm to your body...
> Misleading link, I don't see anything in that video about
> gays or hormones.

Geh heulen... mitm Herman.

This continued harassment of Cheregi is one of the darkest spots in today's RMCR.

This is a group about classical music.

Not a harbour for crazies.

In article <500903de-895d-4c91-81bb-faaddae0487fn@googlegroups.com>,
Herman <herstx@yahoo.com> wrote:
>This continued harassment of Cheregi is one of the darkest spots in
>today's RMCR. This is a group about classical music.

I would only add that what the group is about is actually irrelevant
in this context. Harassing people in unwelcome.

Herman schrieb am Donnerstag, 3. August 2023 um 09:30:14 UTC+2:
> This continued harassment of Cheregi is one of the darkest spots in today's RMCR.
>
> This is a group about classical music.
>
> Not a harbour for crazies.

Wenn man vom Teufel spricht...

Todd M. McComb schrieb am Donnerstag, 3. August 2023 um 09:32:53 UTC+2:
> In article <500903de-895d-4c91...@googlegroups.com>,
> Herman <her...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >This continued harassment of Cheregi is one of the darkest spots in
> >today's RMCR. This is a group about classical music.
> I would only add that what the group is about is actually irrelevant
> in this context. Harassing people in unwelcome.

What is "unwelcome" is how cheregi and other vulnerable people with psychological issues are being told that changing one's gender - which is not possible - would solve these problems; reality is ignored, all the disastrous side effects of hormone treatments or gender-affirming surgeries (such as: removing the uterus or cutting of balls) are ignored. Instead people - like me - who address problems like these are made out to be the problem - very funny ;D

How about trying to help people instead of accomodating their insanity? I forgot, you guys are insane as well...

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 4:30:05 AM UTC-4, Marc S wrote:
> What is "unwelcome" is how cheregi and other...

didn't watch your video, but wanted to point out that any cursory study of gender expression across human history reveals indisputably that trans people have always existed and will always exist, and that the main variable affecting our ability to lead happy healthy lives is the extent to which people like you have the power to make things worse and harder for us.

in other words, your position is only coherent if for some reason you regard any alteration of gender expression or body as A PRIORI "bad", in which case you are probably also obligated to oppose tattoos, prosthetic limbs, treatments for menopause or alopecia, pacemakers, etc

cheregi schrieb am Donnerstag, 3. August 2023 um 20:30:35 UTC+2:
> On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 4:30:05 AM UTC-4, Marc S wrote:
> > What is "unwelcome" is how cheregi and other...
>
> didn't watch your video, but wanted to point out that any cursory study of gender expression across human history reveals indisputably that trans people have always existed and will always exist, and that the main variable affecting our ability to lead happy healthy lives is the extent to which people like you have the power to make things worse and harder for us.

Herman send me some weed please...

It's an electronic track which you might like by Deux Filles. Check it out.

>
> in other words, your position is only coherent if for some reason you regard any alteration of gender expression or body as A PRIORI "bad", in which case you are probably also obligated to oppose tattoos, prosthetic limbs, treatments for menopause or alopecia, pacemakers, etc

You are completely brainfucked.

cheregi schrieb am Donnerstag, 3. August 2023 um 20:30:35 UTC+2:
> On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 4:30:05 AM UTC-4, Marc S wrote:
> > What is "unwelcome" is how cheregi and other...
>
> didn't watch your video, but wanted to point out that any cursory study of gender expression across human history reveals indisputably that trans people have always existed and will always exist, and that the main variable affecting our ability to lead happy healthy lives is the extent to which people like you have the power to make things worse and harder for us.
>
> in other words, your position is only coherent if for some reason you regard any alteration of gender expression or body as A PRIORI "bad", in which case you are probably also obligated to oppose tattoos, prosthetic limbs, treatments for menopause or alopecia, pacemakers, etc

Let me ask you a simple question: Do you think it is healthy behaviour if someone wants to turn his penis into a vagina; or rather mutilate himself?

Another question: Do you already enjoy dilating your vagina daily because otherwise it would close?

Last question: Do you enjoy being a probably, at least if you don't reconsider your choice, lifelong patient and reliant on hormones provided to you by the medical industry?

Marc S schrieb am Donnerstag, 3. August 2023 um 21:11:44 UTC+2:
> cheregi schrieb am Donnerstag, 3. August 2023 um 20:30:35 UTC+2:
> > On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 4:30:05 AM UTC-4, Marc S wrote:
> > > What is "unwelcome" is how cheregi and other...
> >
> > didn't watch your video, but wanted to point out that any cursory study of gender expression across human history reveals indisputably that trans people have always existed and will always exist, and that the main variable affecting our ability to lead happy healthy lives is the extent to which people like you have the power to make things worse and harder for us.
> >
> > in other words, your position is only coherent if for some reason you regard any alteration of gender expression or body as A PRIORI "bad", in which case you are probably also obligated to oppose tattoos, prosthetic limbs, treatments for menopause or alopecia, pacemakers, etc
> Let me ask you a simple question: Do you think it is healthy behaviour if someone wants to turn his penis into a vagina; or rather mutilate himself?
>
> Another question: Do you already enjoy dilating your vagina daily because otherwise it would close?

*neovagina

>
> Last question: Do you enjoy being a probably, at least if you don't reconsider your choice, lifelong patient and reliant on hormones provided to you by the medical industry?

In article <acb296e7-7ebb-4437-a3b2-9a2dca294073n@googlegroups.com>,
cheregi <elirkerry@gmail.com> wrote:
>trans people have always existed and will always exist,

That's right, and I'll add that it was something about indigenous
North American culture that many imperialists promptly wanted to
suppress.

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 9:11:44 PM UTC+2, Marc S wrote:
>
> Let me ask you a simple question:

No doubt superfluously I'm advising Cheregi not to respond to any of these questions.
It's none of our business and MS, being the vile person he is, will torment you further with anything you say,.
This is a person who stalks people and asks indecent questions and never ever has shared anything about himself, because he's a zero.
So best ignore. discussion is useless.

Herman schrieb am Donnerstag, 3. August 2023 um 21:30:08 UTC+2:
> On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 9:11:44 PM UTC+2, Marc S wrote:
> >
> > Let me ask you a simple question:
> No doubt superfluously I'm advising Cheregi not to respond to any of these questions.
> It's none of our business and MS, being the vile person he is, will torment you further with anything you say,.

Actually the doctors who are butchering cheregi are the vile persons, not me ;) And the government which is allowing this bullshit to happen and people like you.

> This is a person who stalks people and asks indecent questions and never ever has shared anything about himself, because he's a zero.

Huh?

Todd M. McComb schrieb am Donnerstag, 3. August 2023 um 21:29:41 UTC+2:
> In article <acb296e7-7ebb-4437...@googlegroups.com>,
> cheregi <elir...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >trans people have always existed and will always exist,
> That's right, and I'll add that it was something about indigenous
> North American culture that many imperialists promptly wanted to
> suppress.

;D crazies

Marc S schrieb am Donnerstag, 3. August 2023 um 21:11:44 UTC+2:
> cheregi schrieb am Donnerstag, 3. August 2023 um 20:30:35 UTC+2:
> > On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 4:30:05 AM UTC-4, Marc S wrote:
> > > What is "unwelcome" is how cheregi and other...
> >
> > didn't watch your video, but wanted to point out that any cursory study of gender expression across human history reveals indisputably that trans people have always existed and will always exist, and that the main variable affecting our ability to lead happy healthy lives is the extent to which people like you have the power to make things worse and harder for us.
> >
> > in other words, your position is only coherent if for some reason you regard any alteration of gender expression or body as A PRIORI "bad", in which case you are probably also obligated to oppose tattoos, prosthetic limbs, treatments for menopause or alopecia, pacemakers, etc
> Let me ask you a simple question: Do you think it is healthy behaviour if someone wants to turn his penis into a vagina; or rather mutilate himself?
>
> Another question: Do you already enjoy dilating your vagina daily because otherwise it would close?

For the uninitiated here: If people turn their penis into a neovagina, the body sort of (? or maybe it really just does) treats it as a wound and wants to close it; which is why they have to put medical "dildos" in it everyday to keep it open. It's a horrible thing, and all the doctors which are mutilating healthy bodies should be persecuted. It's just a matter of time till people close doors on transgender-ideology.

People who can't see a difference between getting tattoos and getting their uterus removed should really check themselves into a mental asylum.

>
> Last question: Do you enjoy being a probably, at least if you don't reconsider your choice, lifelong patient and reliant on hormones provided to you by the medical industry?

Herman schrieb am Donnerstag, 3. August 2023 um 21:30:08 UTC+2:
> On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 9:11:44 PM UTC+2, Marc S wrote:
> >
> > Let me ask you a simple question:
> No doubt superfluously I'm advising Cheregi not to respond to any of these questions.
> It's none of our business and MS, being the vile person he is, will torment you further with anything you say,.

I hope you know better than teaching your daughter that trans people always existed ;D That's the society Todd and cheregi explicitly want, and which you are enabling with your stupidity.

Todd M. McComb schrieb am Donnerstag, 3. August 2023 um 21:29:41 UTC+2:
> In article <acb296e7-7ebb-4437...@googlegroups.com>,
> cheregi <elir...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >trans people have always existed and will always exist,
> That's right, and I'll add that it was something about indigenous
> North American culture that many imperialists promptly wanted to
> suppress.

May I ask if if you are a flat-earther?

On Wed, 02 Aug 2023 23:39:04 -0700, Marc S wrote:

> Pluted Pup schrieb am Donnerstag, 3. August 2023 um 08:03:16 UTC+2:
> > On Wed, 02 Aug 2023 11:42:14 -0700, Marc S wrote:
> >
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNQ_qOSqwZs
> > >
> > > Maybe just try being a gay or bi dude or a transvestite or sth... no more hormones, no more harm to your body...
> > Misleading link, I don't see anything in that video about
> > gays or hormones.
>
> Geh heulen... mitm Herman.

Misleading titles is the "mark" of trolling. And you
mask this issue, which you apparently think is trivial,
as a personal attack on cheregi, or do you think you can
title an article called:

For cheregi

and no one else is allowed to read it or comment on
it? Why did you "Dan" the post with a misleading
youtube link if you think trans surgery is an important
issue?

The Tavistock book showed cases of *forced* conversion,
like the case of the child hated by his evil parents,
a conversion induced by malice. And the Tavistock clinic
used America as an excuse for low standards: "we aren't as
bad as America". All the while the news was saying that
trans surgery is the only surgery with a 100% success
rate and the only drug / surgery regimen entirely without
side effects and uniformly happy results! But for such an
unusually successful medical treatment it's public advocates
sure make a lot of death threats!

One of the books on this malicious quackery, concerning
Tavistock,
Time to Think, by Hannah Barnes:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/1800751117