On Monday, April 19, 2021 at 7:34:50 PM UTC-5, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> YASID: Aliens passing the Earth in a space ship and one of them says,
> "Ew, the ghetto !" ?
>
> Lynn

Is "Ew, the ghetto!" a verbatim quotation from the story you want identified, or are you paraphrasing?

On 9/7/2021 11:08 PM, Butch Malahide wrote:
> On Monday, April 19, 2021 at 7:34:50 PM UTC-5, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>> YASID: Aliens passing the Earth in a space ship and one of them says,
>> "Ew, the ghetto !" ?
>>
>> Lynn
>
> Is "Ew, the ghetto!" a verbatim quotation from the story you want identified, or are you paraphrasing?

Severe paraphrasing.

Lynn

On Thursday, 9 September 2021 at 04:23:37 UTC+1, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> On 9/7/2021 11:08 PM, Butch Malahide wrote:
> > On Monday, April 19, 2021 at 7:34:50 PM UTC-5, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> >> YASID: Aliens passing the Earth in a space ship and one of them says,
> >> "Ew, the ghetto !" ?
> >>
> >> Lynn
> >
> > Is "Ew, the ghetto!" a verbatim quotation from the story you want identified, or are you paraphrasing?
> Severe paraphrasing.
>
> Lynn

Well, lots of sci fi aliens despise Earth.

Douglas Adams mentioned rich kids who like to
land a saucer in an isolated area of an uncontacted
planet and walk around in sight of some unreliable
witness wearing goofy antennas on their heads
and making a "beep beep" noise.

Now, is this a ghetto where unequal citizens live
for economic reasons including relative tolerance
from police officers, or is it the original meaning
of the place where unequal citizens live because
they are forbidden from living elsewhere in town?

In either of these cases, this is a place within
the polity, but looked down on. So it implies that
Earth is a member of space society.

Perhaps the situation in the _Men in Black_
comics (I assume) and movies applies, where
lots of aliens are living on present day Earth
but the "Men in Black" rush around to erase the
memory of anyone who has noticed.

On 2021-09-09, Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 9/7/2021 11:08 PM, Butch Malahide wrote:
>> On Monday, April 19, 2021 at 7:34:50 PM UTC-5, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>> YASID: Aliens passing the Earth in a space ship and one of them says, "Ew,
>>> the ghetto !" ?
>>>
>>> Lynn
>>
>> Is "Ew, the ghetto!" a verbatim quotation from the story you want identified,
>> or are you paraphrasing?
>
> Severe paraphrasing.
>
> Lynn

This is pretty far from your vague memory, but it's a pretty entertaining and
very brief story anyhow. It's just what came to mind when reading your earlier
description:

They're Made out of Meat by Terry Bisson:

https://www.mit.edu/people/dpolicar/writing/prose/text/thinkingMeat.html

Lafe

On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 12:34:47 PM UTC-4, Lafe wrote:
> On 2021-09-09, Lynn McGuire <lynnmc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 9/7/2021 11:08 PM, Butch Malahide wrote:
> >> On Monday, April 19, 2021 at 7:34:50 PM UTC-5, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> >>> YASID: Aliens passing the Earth in a space ship and one of them says, "Ew,
> >>> the ghetto !" ?
> >>>
> >>> Lynn
> >>
> >> Is "Ew, the ghetto!" a verbatim quotation from the story you want identified,
> >> or are you paraphrasing?
> >
> > Severe paraphrasing.
> >
> > Lynn
> This is pretty far from your vague memory, but it's a pretty entertaining and
> very brief story anyhow. It's just what came to mind when reading your earlier
> description:
>
> They're Made out of Meat by Terry Bisson:
>
> https://www.mit.edu/people/dpolicar/writing/prose/text/thinkingMeat.html

It's a favorite subject for short films. Here's a good one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6JFTmQCFHg

Pt

In article <a587a388-516d-42af-a19d-108c100b789en@googlegroups.com>,
pete...@gmail.com <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 12:34:47 PM UTC-4, Lafe wrote:
>> On 2021-09-09, Lynn McGuire <lynnmc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On 9/7/2021 11:08 PM, Butch Malahide wrote:
>> >> On Monday, April 19, 2021 at 7:34:50 PM UTC-5, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>> >>> YASID: Aliens passing the Earth in a space ship and one of them
>says, "Ew,
>> >>> the ghetto !" ?
>> >>>
>> >>> Lynn
>> >>
>> >> Is "Ew, the ghetto!" a verbatim quotation from the story you want
>identified,
>> >> or are you paraphrasing?
>> >
>> > Severe paraphrasing.
>> >
>> > Lynn
>> This is pretty far from your vague memory, but it's a pretty entertaining and
>> very brief story anyhow. It's just what came to mind when reading your
>earlier
>> description:
>>
>> They're Made out of Meat by Terry Bisson:
>>
>> https://www.mit.edu/people/dpolicar/writing/prose/text/thinkingMeat.html
>
>It's a favorite subject for short films. Here's a good one.
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6JFTmQCFHg

Well, shucks. I looked at that one, and another with the same
theme linked just beneath it, and I heard the opening music, but
when the humanoids (in clever plastic disguise, I assume),
started speaking, there was no sound. In either of them.

Any suggestions for fixing that?

--
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/

On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 8:05:04 PM UTC-4, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
> In article <a587a388-516d-42af...@googlegroups.com>,
> pete...@gmail.com <pete...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 12:34:47 PM UTC-4, Lafe wrote:
> >> On 2021-09-09, Lynn McGuire <lynnmc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > On 9/7/2021 11:08 PM, Butch Malahide wrote:
> >> >> On Monday, April 19, 2021 at 7:34:50 PM UTC-5, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> >> >>> YASID: Aliens passing the Earth in a space ship and one of them
> >says, "Ew,
> >> >>> the ghetto !" ?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Lynn
> >> >>
> >> >> Is "Ew, the ghetto!" a verbatim quotation from the story you want
> >identified,
> >> >> or are you paraphrasing?
> >> >
> >> > Severe paraphrasing.
> >> >
> >> > Lynn
> >> This is pretty far from your vague memory, but it's a pretty entertaining and
> >> very brief story anyhow. It's just what came to mind when reading your
> >earlier
> >> description:
> >>
> >> They're Made out of Meat by Terry Bisson:
> >>
> >> https://www.mit.edu/people/dpolicar/writing/prose/text/thinkingMeat.html
> >
> >It's a favorite subject for short films. Here's a good one.
> >
> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6JFTmQCFHg
> Well, shucks. I looked at that one, and another with the same
> theme linked just beneath it, and I heard the opening music, but
> when the humanoids (in clever plastic disguise, I assume),
> started speaking, there was no sound. In either of them.
>
> Any suggestions for fixing that?

Ask Hal. It works fine for me.

Pt

In article <868a8d33-9ee8-4e0d-9ddf-30dbc81de1d4n@googlegroups.com>,
pete...@gmail.com <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 8:05:04 PM UTC-4, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>> In article <a587a388-516d-42af...@googlegroups.com>,
>> pete...@gmail.com <pete...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 12:34:47 PM UTC-4, Lafe wrote:
>> >> On 2021-09-09, Lynn McGuire <lynnmc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > On 9/7/2021 11:08 PM, Butch Malahide wrote:
>> >> >> On Monday, April 19, 2021 at 7:34:50 PM UTC-5, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>> >> >>> YASID: Aliens passing the Earth in a space ship and one of them
>> >says, "Ew,
>> >> >>> the ghetto !" ?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Lynn
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Is "Ew, the ghetto!" a verbatim quotation from the story you want
>> >identified,
>> >> >> or are you paraphrasing?
>> >> >
>> >> > Severe paraphrasing.
>> >> >
>> >> > Lynn
>> >> This is pretty far from your vague memory, but it's a pretty
>entertaining and
>> >> very brief story anyhow. It's just what came to mind when reading your
>> >earlier
>> >> description:
>> >>
>> >> They're Made out of Meat by Terry Bisson:
>> >>
>> >> https://www.mit.edu/people/dpolicar/writing/prose/text/thinkingMeat.html
>> >
>> >It's a favorite subject for short films. Here's a good one.
>> >
>> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6JFTmQCFHg
>> Well, shucks. I looked at that one, and another with the same
>> theme linked just beneath it, and I heard the opening music, but
>> when the humanoids (in clever plastic disguise, I assume),
>> started speaking, there was no sound. In either of them.
>>
>> Any suggestions for fixing that?
>
>Ask Hal. It works fine for me.

Okay; will do.

--
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/

On Thu, 9 Sep 2021 09:24:16 -0700 (PDT), Robert Carnegie
<rja.carnegie@excite.com> wrote:

>On Thursday, 9 September 2021 at 04:23:37 UTC+1, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>> On 9/7/2021 11:08 PM, Butch Malahide wrote:
>> > On Monday, April 19, 2021 at 7:34:50 PM UTC-5, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>> >> YASID: Aliens passing the Earth in a space ship and one of them says,
>> >> "Ew, the ghetto !" ?
>> >>
>> >> Lynn
>> >
>> > Is "Ew, the ghetto!" a verbatim quotation from the story you want identified, or are you paraphrasing?
>> Severe paraphrasing.
>>
>> Lynn
>
>Well, lots of sci fi aliens despise Earth.
>
>Douglas Adams mentioned rich kids who like to
>land a saucer in an isolated area of an uncontacted
>planet and walk around in sight of some unreliable
>witness wearing goofy antennas on their heads
>and making a "beep beep" noise.
>
>Now, is this a ghetto where unequal citizens live
>for economic reasons including relative tolerance
>from police officers, or is it the original meaning
>of the place where unequal citizens live because
>they are forbidden from living elsewhere in town?
>
>In either of these cases, this is a place within
>the polity, but looked down on. So it implies that
>Earth is a member of space society.
>
>Perhaps the situation in the _Men in Black_
>comics (I assume) and movies applies, where
>lots of aliens are living on present day Earth
>but the "Men in Black" rush around to erase the
>memory of anyone who has noticed.

I still remember the TV Spot where they deresed the audience and told
them to go see the film for the first time. Again.
--
"I begin to envy Petronius."
"I have envied him long since."

On Friday, 10 September 2021 at 16:17:25 UTC+1, Paul S Person wrote:
> On Thu, 9 Sep 2021 09:24:16 -0700 (PDT), Robert Carnegie
> <rja.ca...@excite.com> wrote:
>
> >On Thursday, 9 September 2021 at 04:23:37 UTC+1, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> >> On 9/7/2021 11:08 PM, Butch Malahide wrote:
> >> > On Monday, April 19, 2021 at 7:34:50 PM UTC-5, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> >> >> YASID: Aliens passing the Earth in a space ship and one of them says,
> >> >> "Ew, the ghetto !" ?
> >> >>
> >> >> Lynn
> >> >
> >> > Is "Ew, the ghetto!" a verbatim quotation from the story you want identified, or are you paraphrasing?
> >> Severe paraphrasing.
> >>
> >> Lynn
> >
> >Well, lots of sci fi aliens despise Earth.
> >
> >Douglas Adams mentioned rich kids who like to
> >land a saucer in an isolated area of an uncontacted
> >planet and walk around in sight of some unreliable
> >witness wearing goofy antennas on their heads
> >and making a "beep beep" noise.
> >
> >Now, is this a ghetto where unequal citizens live
> >for economic reasons including relative tolerance
> >from police officers, or is it the original meaning
> >of the place where unequal citizens live because
> >they are forbidden from living elsewhere in town?
> >
> >In either of these cases, this is a place within
> >the polity, but looked down on. So it implies that
> >Earth is a member of space society.
> >
> >Perhaps the situation in the _Men in Black_
> >comics (I assume) and movies applies, where
> >lots of aliens are living on present day Earth
> >but the "Men in Black" rush around to erase the
> >memory of anyone who has noticed.
> I still remember the TV Spot where they deresed the audience and told
> them to go see the film for the first time. Again.

I have to guess that you blinked. :-)

On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 6:05:04 PM UTC-6, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
> In article <a587a388-516d-42af...@googlegroups.com>,
> pete...@gmail.com <pete...@gmail.com> wrote:

> >It's a favorite subject for short films. Here's a good one.
> >
> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6JFTmQCFHg

> Well, shucks. I looked at that one, and another with the same
> theme linked just beneath it, and I heard the opening music, but
> when the humanoids (in clever plastic disguise, I assume),
> started speaking, there was no sound. In either of them.
>
> Any suggestions for fixing that?

That's... weird.

It sometimes happens due to copyright claims that music is
excised from videos on YouTube. But for the music to be present
and dialog to be missing is not something I've ever encountered.

There is no obvious technical fix. Videos on YouTube aren't in
a multi-track format suitable for further audio editing, they're
present as finished products.

However, I suppose you _could_ be listening on earphones where
one channel is dead, and the dialog happens to be on one stereo
channel. That's the only possibility I can think of.

My suggestion would be to use the search capabilities of YouTube,
or of Google (then switch to videos as results) to find another upload
of the same content; sometimes, with popular content, there are
multiple uploads, with a few that are broken. Or the original posterl
fixes the video and uploads it again, but leaves the original up so that
comments aren't erased and so on.

John Savard

On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 6:52:36 PM UTC-4, Quadibloc wrote:
> On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 6:05:04 PM UTC-6, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
> > In article <a587a388-516d-42af...@googlegroups.com>,
> > pete...@gmail.com <pete...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >It's a favorite subject for short films. Here's a good one.
> > >
> > >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6JFTmQCFHg
>
> > Well, shucks. I looked at that one, and another with the same
> > theme linked just beneath it, and I heard the opening music, but
> > when the humanoids (in clever plastic disguise, I assume),
> > started speaking, there was no sound. In either of them.
> >
> > Any suggestions for fixing that?
> That's... weird.
>
> It sometimes happens due to copyright claims that music is
> excised from videos on YouTube. Oblem. But for the music to be present
> and dialog to be missing is not something I've ever encountered.

That isn't the problem. Did you even try the link? I just tried again, and the
audio was fine.

Pt

In article <735d0e11-122e-45a4-995a-1f413941970en@googlegroups.com>,
Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 6:05:04 PM UTC-6, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>> In article <a587a388-516d-42af...@googlegroups.com>,
>> pete...@gmail.com <pete...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> >It's a favorite subject for short films. Here's a good one.
>> >
>> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6JFTmQCFHg
>
>> Well, shucks. I looked at that one, and another with the same
>> theme linked just beneath it, and I heard the opening music, but
>> when the humanoids (in clever plastic disguise, I assume),
>> started speaking, there was no sound. In either of them.
>>
>> Any suggestions for fixing that?
>
>That's... weird.
>
>It sometimes happens due to copyright claims that music is
>excised from videos on YouTube. But for the music to be present
>and dialog to be missing is not something I've ever encountered.
>
>There is no obvious technical fix. Videos on YouTube aren't in
>a multi-track format suitable for further audio editing, they're
>present as finished products.
>
>However, I suppose you _could_ be listening on earphones where
>one channel is dead, and the dialog happens to be on one stereo
>channel. That's the only possibility I can think of.

No, my earphones are working properly on both sides. (I just
finished listening to four hours of Sunday morning music on them.

However... when I posted the above, about no dialogue, I was
listening to the main speakers, whose right channel was getting
flakey, and the whole set died soon thereafter. So I tried
listening again, and with the speakers I can hear both tracks.

So that's fixed, sort of.

Personally, I think it would have been better to have both the
aliens done with CGI of some kind, rather than making them wear
meat disguises, which would have been very uncomfortable for
them.

--
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/

In article <ac32bb99-af70-4c25-9375-8d86081f490dn@googlegroups.com>,
pete...@gmail.com <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 6:52:36 PM UTC-4, Quadibloc wrote:
>> On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 6:05:04 PM UTC-6, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>> > In article <a587a388-516d-42af...@googlegroups.com>,
>> > pete...@gmail.com <pete...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > >It's a favorite subject for short films. Here's a good one.
>> > >
>> > >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6JFTmQCFHg
>>
>> > Well, shucks. I looked at that one, and another with the same
>> > theme linked just beneath it, and I heard the opening music, but
>> > when the humanoids (in clever plastic disguise, I assume),
>> > started speaking, there was no sound. In either of them.
>> >
>> > Any suggestions for fixing that?
>> That's... weird.
>>
>> It sometimes happens due to copyright claims that music is
>> excised from videos on YouTube. Oblem. But for the music to be present
>> and dialog to be missing is not something I've ever encountered.
>
>That isn't the problem. Did you even try the link? I just tried again, and the
>audio was fine.

Yes, see upthread: I tried the link again and got both tracks.

--
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/