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Op zaterdag 23 oktober 2021 om 17:49:15 UTC+2 schreef gggg gggg:
> https://www.wfmt.com/2016/10/10/8-chopin-recordings-every-music-lover-should-own/

None of them is even in my top 5.

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Typical lazy reviewer's article, just going through the motions. This is the chicken curry and chips of Chopin.

I'd take Rubinstein in the mazurkas, but prefer his earlier recordings. Preludes are a tough one - some of Pogorelic are very good, others less so. I might go with Moiseiwitch or a live Argerich. Richter for Scherzo 4. Argerich or Horowitz for the Ballades maybe.

For my own listening I have iTunes playlists of Sofronitsky, Friedman, Rosenthal, Horowitz, Hoffman and the like. I like to put together the best recordings of single pieces. Nothing that would interest a lazy reviewer out to make a bob or two.

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 by: MiNe109 - Sat, 23 Oct 2021 17:52 UTC

On 10/23/21 11:28 AM, HT wrote:
> Op zaterdag 23 oktober 2021 om 17:49:15 UTC+2 schreef gggg gggg:
>> https://www.wfmt.com/2016/10/10/8-chopin-recordings-every-music-lover-should-own/
>
> None of them is even in my top 5.

I can't get it to display on any of three browsers. What are they?

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Op zaterdag 23 oktober 2021 om 19:52:10 UTC+2 schreef MINe109:
> On 10/23/21 11:28 AM, HT wrote:
> > Op zaterdag 23 oktober 2021 om 17:49:15 UTC+2 schreef gggg gggg:
> >> https://www.wfmt.com/2016/10/10/8-chopin-recordings-every-music-lover-should-own/
> >
> > None of them is even in my top 5.

> I can't get it to display on any of three browsers. What are they?

Mazurkas Rubinstein (Collection # 50)
Sonatas Argerich
Waltzes Ohlsson
Polonaises Pollini
Concertos Ax
Nocturnes Pires
Etudes Ashkenazy (Decca)
Preludes Yundi Li

Henk

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 by: MiNe109 - Sat, 23 Oct 2021 19:37 UTC

On 10/23/21 1:30 PM, HT wrote:
> Op zaterdag 23 oktober 2021 om 19:52:10 UTC+2 schreef MINe109:
>> On 10/23/21 11:28 AM, HT wrote:
>>> Op zaterdag 23 oktober 2021 om 17:49:15 UTC+2 schreef gggg gggg:
>>>> https://www.wfmt.com/2016/10/10/8-chopin-recordings-every-music-lover-should-own/
>>>
>>> None of them is even in my top 5.
>
>> I can't get it to display on any of three browsers. What are they?
>
> Mazurkas Rubinstein (Collection # 50)
> Sonatas Argerich
> Waltzes Ohlsson
> Polonaises Pollini
> Concertos Ax
> Nocturnes Pires
> Etudes Ashkenazy (Decca)
> Preludes Yundi Li

Thanks! I've made a spotify playlist of everything but the Waltzes. It
does seem more like "recordings everyone might want to hear once."

Unless they mean the Sony Ax, in which case I do own them.

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On Sat, 23 Oct 2021 11:30:55 -0700 (PDT), HT <hvtuijl@xs4all.nl>
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>Mazurkas Rubinstein (Collection # 50)
>Sonatas Argerich
>Waltzes Ohlsson
>Polonaises Pollini
>Concertos Ax
>Nocturnes Pires
>Etudes Ashkenazy (Decca)
>Preludes Yundi Li

American Record Guide listed the following as recommended in their
July/August 2011 overview:

Ballades & Scherzos: Wild, Li, Hough, Gavrilov, Tryon, Barbosa,
Moravec, Zimerman, Katin, Rubinstein
Concertos: Primakov, Blechacz, Mertanen, Ax, Paleczny, Zimerman
Also Concerto 1: Gilels, Li, Cliburn
Also Concerto 2: Cherkassky, Biret
Etudes: Baglini, Zayas, Wild, Ashkenazy, Gavrilov, Anievas
Mazurkas: Barbosa, Block, Primakov, Michelangeli
Nocturnes: Wild, Freire, Moravec, Wasowski, Falvay
Polonaises: Barbora, Malcuzynski, Olejniczak, Biret, Pollini
Preludes: Moravec, Arrau, Zayas
Sonatas: Horowitz (2), Block, Hamelin, Tropp, Pogorelich, Li (3),
Gilels
Waltzes: Barbosa, Anievas, Malcuzynski

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 by: MELMOTH - Sat, 23 Oct 2021 23:38 UTC

Mr. Mike avait énoncé :
> Ballades & Scherzos: Wild, Li, Hough, Gavrilov, Tryon, Barbosa,
> Moravec, Zimerman, Katin, Rubinstein
> Concertos: Primakov, Blechacz, Mertanen, Ax, Paleczny, Zimerman
> Also Concerto 1: Gilels, Li, Cliburn
> Also Concerto 2: Cherkassky, Biret
> Etudes: Baglini, Zayas, Wild, Ashkenazy, Gavrilov, Anievas
> Mazurkas: Barbosa, Block, Primakov, Michelangeli
> Nocturnes: Wild, Freire, Moravec, Wasowski, Falvay
> Polonaises: Barbora, Malcuzynski, Olejniczak, Biret, Pollini
> Preludes: Moravec, Arrau, Zayas
> Sonatas: Horowitz (2), Block, Hamelin, Tropp, Pogorelich, Li (3),
> Gilels
> Waltzes: Barbosa, Anievas, Malcuzynski

The fact that *Samson François* is not mentioned once proves the crappy
taste of the Americans...

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On Saturday, October 23, 2021 at 7:39:03 PM UTC-4, MELMOTH wrote:
> Mr. Mike avait énoncé :
> > Ballades & Scherzos: Wild, Li, Hough, Gavrilov, Tryon, Barbosa,
> > Moravec, Zimerman, Katin, Rubinstein
> > Concertos: Primakov, Blechacz, Mertanen, Ax, Paleczny, Zimerman
> > Also Concerto 1: Gilels, Li, Cliburn
> > Also Concerto 2: Cherkassky, Biret
> > Etudes: Baglini, Zayas, Wild, Ashkenazy, Gavrilov, Anievas
> > Mazurkas: Barbosa, Block, Primakov, Michelangeli
> > Nocturnes: Wild, Freire, Moravec, Wasowski, Falvay
> > Polonaises: Barbora, Malcuzynski, Olejniczak, Biret, Pollini
> > Preludes: Moravec, Arrau, Zayas
> > Sonatas: Horowitz (2), Block, Hamelin, Tropp, Pogorelich, Li (3),
> > Gilels
> > Waltzes: Barbosa, Anievas, Malcuzynski

It’s a pretty good list IMO. Very happy and surprised to see Barbosa 3 times. Ditto Anievas. I would have put Pollini for Preludes and Etudes, Michelangeli for Sonata #2 (all of his versions are live performances, not commercial studio recordings). My Concerto #2 choice is DeLarrocha.

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On Saturday, October 23, 2021 at 10:07:00 AM UTC-7, Andy Evans wrote:
> Typical lazy reviewer's article, just going through the motions. This is the chicken curry and chips of Chopin.
>
> I'd take Rubinstein in the mazurkas, but prefer his earlier recordings. Preludes are a tough one - some of Pogorelic are very good, others less so. I might go with Moiseiwitch or a live Argerich. Richter for Scherzo 4. Argerich or Horowitz for the Ballades maybe.
>
> For my own listening I have iTunes playlists of Sofronitsky, Friedman, Rosenthal, Horowitz, Hoffman and the like. I like to put together the best recordings of single pieces. Nothing that would interest a lazy reviewer out to make a bob or two.

Ahem! The recently released set of all of Martha's Chopin recordings. . . remastered in Dolby Atmos, no less! Ah, this is living!

More seriously, I find that, as I get older, Argerich's Chopin appeals a bit less to me than it used to. I find some of the tempos just a bit wayward now, and some of her vaunted impetuousness seems slightly more like impatience. I still love that Dolby Atmos remastering though! ;-)

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On Sat, 23 Oct 2021, Andy Evans wrote:

> This is the chicken curry and chips of Chopin.

Sounds bizarre - must be some kind of English specialty food.
--
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On Monday, 25 October 2021 at 22:18:18 UTC+1, Al Eisner wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Oct 2021, Andy Evans wrote:
> > > This is the chicken curry and chips of Chopin.
> Sounds bizarre - must be some kind of English specialty food.
> -- > Al Eisner

It's a working class kind of meal - filling and spicy with no pretensions to cuisine.

The same working classes also have things like deep fried Mars bars (Snickers bars).

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On Saturday, October 23, 2021 at 8:49:15 AM UTC-7, wrote:
> https://www.wfmt.com/2016/10/10/8-chopin-recordings-every-music-lover-should-own/

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"Legendary Recordings of Chopin"

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