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* Re: _The Door Into Summer_ MovieLynn McGuire
+- Re: _The Door Into Summer_ MovieScott Lurndal
`* Re: _The Door Into Summer_ MovieLynn McGuire
 `* Re: _The Door Into Summer_ MovieJay E. Morris
  `* Re: _The Door Into Summer_ MovieLynn McGuire
   `- Re: _The Door Into Summer_ MovieDorothy J Heydt

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 by: Lynn McGuire - Wed, 2 Feb 2022 01:16 UTC

On 2/1/2022 6:54 PM, peterwezeman@hotmail.com wrote:
> Takahiro Miki's 2021 movie of Robert Heinlein's novel
> _The Door into Summer_ is now available on Netflix.
> Elisabeth Vincentelli gives it a favorable review in
> the arts section of today's _New York Times_.
>
> From a Google search the protagonist is the inventor
> of a humanoid robot rather than the Roomba-like
> device described in the book.
>
> Peter Wezeman
> anti-social Darwinist

It is longer than 90 minutes, that is always a good sign.
https://www.netflix.com/title/81517003

Ah, the book was inspired by Heinlein's cat !
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Door_into_Summer

"When we were living in Colorado there was snowfall. Our cat — I'm a cat
man — wanted to get out of the house so I opened a door for him but he
wouldn't leave. Just kept on crying. He'd seen snow before and I
couldn't understand it. I kept opening other doors for him and he still
wouldn't leave. Then Ginny said, 'Oh, he's looking for a door into
summer.' I threw up my hands, told her not to say another word, and
wrote the novel The Door Into Summer in 13 days.[3]"

The trailer is in Japanese. My Japanese really sucks. I suspect the
movie will be dubbed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M39FNAlhPnU

Lynn

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 by: Scott Lurndal - Wed, 2 Feb 2022 15:00 UTC

Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:
>On 2/1/2022 6:54 PM, peterwezeman@hotmail.com wrote:
>> Takahiro Miki's 2021 movie of Robert Heinlein's novel
>> _The Door into Summer_ is now available on Netflix.
>> Elisabeth Vincentelli gives it a favorable review in
>> the arts section of today's _New York Times_.
>>
>> From a Google search the protagonist is the inventor
>> of a humanoid robot rather than the Roomba-like
>> device described in the book.
>>
>> Peter Wezeman
>> anti-social Darwinist
>
>It is longer than 90 minutes, that is always a good sign.
> https://www.netflix.com/title/81517003
>
>Ah, the book was inspired by Heinlein's cat !
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Door_into_Summer
>
>The trailer is in Japanese. My Japanese really sucks. I suspect the
>movie will be dubbed.

It's subtitled. It's quite good.

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 by: Lynn McGuire - Wed, 2 Feb 2022 18:50 UTC

On 2/1/2022 9:47 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Feb 2022 19:16:28 -0600, Lynn McGuire
> <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2/1/2022 6:54 PM, peterwezeman@hotmail.com wrote:
>>> Takahiro Miki's 2021 movie of Robert Heinlein's novel
>>> _The Door into Summer_ is now available on Netflix.
>>> Elisabeth Vincentelli gives it a favorable review in
>>> the arts section of today's _New York Times_.
>>>
>>> From a Google search the protagonist is the inventor
>>> of a humanoid robot rather than the Roomba-like
>>> device described in the book.
>>>
>>> Peter Wezeman
>>> anti-social Darwinist
>>
>> It is longer than 90 minutes, that is always a good sign.
>> https://www.netflix.com/title/81517003
>>
>> Ah, the book was inspired by Heinlein's cat !
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Door_into_Summer
>>
>> "When we were living in Colorado there was snowfall. Our cat — I'm a cat
>> man — wanted to get out of the house so I opened a door for him but he
>> wouldn't leave. Just kept on crying. He'd seen snow before and I
>> couldn't understand it. I kept opening other doors for him and he still
>> wouldn't leave. Then Ginny said, 'Oh, he's looking for a door into
>> summer.' I threw up my hands, told her not to say another word, and
>> wrote the novel The Door Into Summer in 13 days.[3]"
>>
>> The trailer is in Japanese. My Japanese really sucks. I suspect the
>> movie will be dubbed.
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M39FNAlhPnU
>
> Subtitled.

I watched ten minutes last night. It was a LOT of subtitles. I am not
sure if I am going to watch more.

Lynn

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 by: Jay E. Morris - Wed, 2 Feb 2022 21:12 UTC

On 2/2/2022 12:50 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> On 2/1/2022 9:47 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
>> On Tue, 1 Feb 2022 19:16:28 -0600, Lynn McGuire
>> <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2/1/2022 6:54 PM, peterwezeman@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>> Takahiro Miki's 2021 movie of Robert Heinlein's novel
>>>> _The Door into Summer_ is now available on Netflix.
>>>> Elisabeth Vincentelli gives it a favorable review in
>>>> the arts section of today's _New York Times_.
>>>>
>>>>   From a Google search the protagonist is the inventor
>>>> of a humanoid robot rather than the Roomba-like
>>>> device described in the book.
>>>>
>>>> Peter Wezeman
>>>> anti-social Darwinist
>>>
>>> It is longer than 90 minutes, that is always a good sign.
>>>     https://www.netflix.com/title/81517003
>>>
>>> Ah, the book was inspired by Heinlein's cat !
>>>     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Door_into_Summer
>>>
>>> "When we were living in Colorado there was snowfall. Our cat — I'm a cat
>>> man — wanted to get out of the house so I opened a door for him but he
>>> wouldn't leave. Just kept on crying. He'd seen snow before and I
>>> couldn't understand it. I kept opening other doors for him and he still
>>> wouldn't leave. Then Ginny said, 'Oh, he's looking for a door into
>>> summer.' I threw up my hands, told her not to say another word, and
>>> wrote the novel The Door Into Summer in 13 days.[3]"
>>>
>>> The trailer is in Japanese.  My Japanese really sucks.  I suspect the
>>> movie will be dubbed.
>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M39FNAlhPnU
>>
>> Subtitled.
>
> I watched ten minutes last night.  It was a LOT of subtitles.  I am not
> sure if I am going to watch more.
>
> Lynn

Yeah, same here. I'm reading and not watching. Find myself zipping back
too often.

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 by: Lynn McGuire - Thu, 3 Feb 2022 01:52 UTC

On 2/2/2022 3:12 PM, Jay E. Morris wrote:
> On 2/2/2022 12:50 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>> On 2/1/2022 9:47 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
>>> On Tue, 1 Feb 2022 19:16:28 -0600, Lynn McGuire
>>> <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2/1/2022 6:54 PM, peterwezeman@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>>> Takahiro Miki's 2021 movie of Robert Heinlein's novel
>>>>> _The Door into Summer_ is now available on Netflix.
>>>>> Elisabeth Vincentelli gives it a favorable review in
>>>>> the arts section of today's _New York Times_.
>>>>>
>>>>>   From a Google search the protagonist is the inventor
>>>>> of a humanoid robot rather than the Roomba-like
>>>>> device described in the book.
>>>>>
>>>>> Peter Wezeman
>>>>> anti-social Darwinist
>>>>
>>>> It is longer than 90 minutes, that is always a good sign.
>>>>     https://www.netflix.com/title/81517003
>>>>
>>>> Ah, the book was inspired by Heinlein's cat !
>>>>     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Door_into_Summer
>>>>
>>>> "When we were living in Colorado there was snowfall. Our cat — I'm a
>>>> cat
>>>> man — wanted to get out of the house so I opened a door for him but he
>>>> wouldn't leave. Just kept on crying. He'd seen snow before and I
>>>> couldn't understand it. I kept opening other doors for him and he still
>>>> wouldn't leave. Then Ginny said, 'Oh, he's looking for a door into
>>>> summer.' I threw up my hands, told her not to say another word, and
>>>> wrote the novel The Door Into Summer in 13 days.[3]"
>>>>
>>>> The trailer is in Japanese.  My Japanese really sucks.  I suspect the
>>>> movie will be dubbed.
>>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M39FNAlhPnU
>>>
>>> Subtitled.
>>
>> I watched ten minutes last night.  It was a LOT of subtitles.  I am
>> not sure if I am going to watch more.
>>
>> Lynn
>
> Yeah, same here. I'm reading and not watching. Find myself zipping back
> too often.

Yeah, I am spending too much time on the subtitles also. Very distracting.

Lynn

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 by: Dorothy J Heydt - Thu, 3 Feb 2022 04:21 UTC

In article <iqfmvg5ifgjlesl1sthk9ln07aakrjv2c1@4ax.com>,
J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 2 Feb 2022 19:52:26 -0600, Lynn McGuire
><lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On 2/2/2022 3:12 PM, Jay E. Morris wrote:
>>> On 2/2/2022 12:50 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>>> On 2/1/2022 9:47 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 1 Feb 2022 19:16:28 -0600, Lynn McGuire
>>>>> <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2/1/2022 6:54 PM, peterwezeman@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>> Takahiro Miki's 2021 movie of Robert Heinlein's novel
>>>>>>> _The Door into Summer_ is now available on Netflix.
>>>>>>> Elisabeth Vincentelli gives it a favorable review in
>>>>>>> the arts section of today's _New York Times_.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   From a Google search the protagonist is the inventor
>>>>>>> of a humanoid robot rather than the Roomba-like
>>>>>>> device described in the book.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Peter Wezeman
>>>>>>> anti-social Darwinist
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is longer than 90 minutes, that is always a good sign.
>>>>>>     https://www.netflix.com/title/81517003
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ah, the book was inspired by Heinlein's cat !
>>>>>>     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Door_into_Summer
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "When we were living in Colorado there was snowfall. Our cat — I'm a
>>>>>> cat
>>>>>> man — wanted to get out of the house so I opened a door for him but he
>>>>>> wouldn't leave. Just kept on crying. He'd seen snow before and I
>>>>>> couldn't understand it. I kept opening other doors for him and he still
>>>>>> wouldn't leave. Then Ginny said, 'Oh, he's looking for a door into
>>>>>> summer.' I threw up my hands, told her not to say another word, and
>>>>>> wrote the novel The Door Into Summer in 13 days.[3]"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The trailer is in Japanese.  My Japanese really sucks.  I suspect the
>>>>>> movie will be dubbed.
>>>>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M39FNAlhPnU
>>>>>
>>>>> Subtitled.
>>>>
>>>> I watched ten minutes last night.  It was a LOT of subtitles.  I am
>>>> not sure if I am going to watch more.
>>>>
>>>> Lynn
>>>
>>> Yeah, same here. I'm reading and not watching. Find myself zipping back
>>> too often.
>>
>>Yeah, I am spending too much time on the subtitles also. Very distracting.
>
>I think they did a pretty good job. They had to change the technology
>somewhat, reasonable facsimiles of "Hired Girl" and "Draftin' Dan"
>have been commercial products for decades. The Belle (sorry, never
>got the Japanese character name fixed in my head) relationship could
>have stood to get some more development before the betrayal but that
>would have added another 10-20 minutes to an already long movie.
>
>I have mixed emotions about the cat. The cat they chose is a superb
>actor, but he didn't look the part--he wasn't beat up enough for one
>thing. And he didn't do nearly enough damage to Belle.

To do suffient damage to her, he would have had to be the size of
a full-grown tiger with the ferocity of a black-footed cat.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black-footed_cat

So small, so pretty, so ferocious; it catches more prey per
attempt than any other carnivore.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nl8o9PsJPAQ

OTOH what wound up happening to Belle was even more appropriate.

--
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/

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